{"id":"batch-000106","number":106,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-04-26T15:23:08.151Z","date_end":"2026-04-29T06:45:45.100Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 106 (Apr 26, 2026 – Apr 29, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions center on three main threads: alleged procedural or substantive injustice, including disputes over \"serving prison time for you,\" evidentiary defects, Brady disclosures, and indictment flaws; procedural strategy splits regarding the Second Circuit, stays, victim status, and third-party litigation, dividing those prioritizing actionable reviewable issues from those demanding total substantive confrontation; and forfeiture-bankruptcy overlaps involving Mahwah, alter ego determinations, and Wang's case, alongside community governance, evidence preservation, and political interpretations.","guide_en":[{"title":"Ongoing debate over the claim of \"serving prison time for you\" and allegations of procedural injustice","description":"Participants dispute claims regarding serving prison time and debate whether procedural injustice can overturn a 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卖青们\n债权人造假\nHcHk委员会造假 没人选他们 从哪冒出来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q069f45157d82d6c523fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q7798120ec1ff13af903b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":203,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:49:48.955Z","text":"有二巡的都可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ebbb30543c09319f7ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7798120ec1ff13af903b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ebbb30543c09319f7ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc3d8260f3c35fca3be3e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":204,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:50:09.168Z","text":"但有二巡的 给南区好像不能发动议 只能保存记录 表达反对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ebbb30543c09319f7ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3d8260f3c35fca3be3e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ebbb30543c09319f7ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q979d51fa945e0720d258","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":205,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-27T01:50:31.781Z","text":"是不是每次上二巡都要给那个司法部的Nathan Rehn COS？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q979d51fa945e0720d258","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb7af349a8705e9ae8d8f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":206,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:50:40.845Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q979d51fa945e0720d258","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7af349a8705e9ae8d8f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q979d51fa945e0720d258","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe01ef120286b45563ebf","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":207,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:51:04.995Z","text":"你要看你pacer docket里面是不是有检方新律师加入","edited":false,"reply_to":"q979d51fa945e0720d258","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe01ef120286b45563ebf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q979d51fa945e0720d258","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qbe32da461f9cd586fc90","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":208,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:51:07.609Z","text":"如果有的话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe32da461f9cd586fc90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0c7275342949043dc755","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":209,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:51:18.188Z","text":"你要多serve一份","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c7275342949043dc755","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q18e607d106928229b1c2","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":210,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:51:24.587Z","text":"现在瑞恩 螺丝哥 jason","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18e607d106928229b1c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qfd4d15ce1607601dd5c9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":211,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:51:26.375Z","text":"tony","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd4d15ce1607601dd5c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q57ab2867e0a72e569892","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":212,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:51:33.839Z","text":"都有新律师加入了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57ab2867e0a72e569892","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q4e0aac81abc480510c35","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":213,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-27T01:51:42.366Z","text":"上次的stay， 我是先发了南区， 又写个新的给二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e0aac81abc480510c35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6df85d165cd833a5c10e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":214,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T01:51:47.679Z","text":"先PAX 后瑞银","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0dd7b86666dd7ae298d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6df85d165cd833a5c10e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dd7b86666dd7ae298d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q1a8351c90230b658e1ad","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":215,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:52:00.488Z","text":"你上次的南区stay就别传二巡了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e0aac81abc480510c35","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a8351c90230b658e1ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e0aac81abc480510c35","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd0a1b8933078bb302bd9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":216,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-27T01:52:11.802Z","text":"没传","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a8351c90230b658e1ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0a1b8933078bb302bd9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a8351c90230b658e1ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q427c034b3b7059019744","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":217,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-27T01:53:23.727Z","text":"检方多了律师？原来的三个再加一个？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q57ab2867e0a72e569892","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q427c034b3b7059019744","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57ab2867e0a72e569892","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5d508960d0a61ce2b250","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":218,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:54:19.401Z","text":"不是 是你二巡要serve得律师多了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q427c034b3b7059019744","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d508960d0a61ce2b250","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q427c034b3b7059019744","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q07f1b58af6ff506a68cf","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":219,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:54:26.872Z","text":"原来只需要nathan","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07f1b58af6ff506a68cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q97190d6a8fd37e88a814","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":220,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:54:31.898Z","text":"现在那个micah 也进来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97190d6a8fd37e88a814","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q7a560d155767ac5f66a1","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":221,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:56:42.320Z","text":"怎么感觉二巡强制令阴盛阳衰 没想到这么多妹纸","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a560d155767ac5f66a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q66f55fcb7e9249ccdaea","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":222,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-27T01:56:46.535Z","text":"我一分钱都没给他的😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfecdb7a25b0693065eb8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66f55fcb7e9249ccdaea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfecdb7a25b0693065eb8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5c3c3e5bfdc32b451d64","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":223,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T01:56:59.933Z","text":"现在那些老杂毛的家丁可能看懂了，但有些老杂毛，根本就不懂郭具体在干什么。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6df85d165cd833a5c10e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c3c3e5bfdc32b451d64","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6df85d165cd833a5c10e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6525f4f381f74e1a5fbb","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":224,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T01:57:30.996Z","text":"强制令感觉女性，有钱，更容易被立案。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6525f4f381f74e1a5fbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa98fb6f0594318287482","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":225,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T01:58:00.874Z","text":"［用户 xin***］ 那些老杂毛 怕是会恨死你🤣 🤣 🤣\n激发了螺丝哥的斗志，杠精潜能拉满","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5c3c3e5bfdc32b451d64","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa98fb6f0594318287482","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c3c3e5bfdc32b451d64","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q79f0094fcc5b41dbafc2","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":226,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-27T01:58:21.103Z","text":"不是，是现在已经有了好几份，所以，二巡一条牛也是看，8条牛也是看😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79f0094fcc5b41dbafc2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qefeb8aae81c61877b7cf","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":227,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:59:14.962Z","text":"8个强制令已经创造美国同类型案件记录","edited":false,"reply_to":"q79f0094fcc5b41dbafc2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefeb8aae81c61877b7cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79f0094fcc5b41dbafc2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8fd8cb6561dbc634fd78","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":228,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-27T01:59:46.679Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ 现在发也能立案","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fd8cb6561dbc634fd78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qaf9663730dd3c53fb4ec","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":229,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T02:04:04.429Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ \n确实，检方和luc的和解合作，卷宗看不到","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf9663730dd3c53fb4ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q16acf7ce96795cba53fd","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":230,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-27T02:06:31.305Z","text":"我以后发二巡，可以不用发纸质的了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16acf7ce96795cba53fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf9344349da3b97a5d77a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":231,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T02:11:42.134Z","text":"可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"q16acf7ce96795cba53fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9344349da3b97a5d77a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16acf7ce96795cba53fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q034aad3c34298d578fda","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":232,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T02:11:49.185Z","text":"这个维度的反转让案件的法律复杂性直接上升到了**“宪法级”的博弈**。如果这8份强制令（特别是量刑前的5份紧急动议）是由第三方受害者申请人（Third-party Victim Petitioners）发起的，那么这就不再仅仅是辩方与控方的博弈，而演变成了司法体系内部的一场“大地震”。\n这解释了为什么托雷斯法官（Judge Torres）会表现得如此“谨慎”，甚至在四天前主动推迟量刑。\n1. “受害者打强制令”：美国司法中的极罕见现象\n在正常的美国刑事案件中，受害者通常是站在检方一边的。如果受害者（或自称受害者的人）开始向上诉法院反诉地方法院法官，这说明：\n• 利益彻底错位：这些申请人认为地方法院和检察官在处理资产、赔偿或案件事实时，严重损害了他们的合法权益（比如《犯罪受害者权利法案》CVRA赋予的权利）。\n• 合法性的质疑：当“受害者”集体向上级法院控告程序不公时，地方法院面临的舆论和法律压力是空前的。这比辩方律师的折腾要严重得多，因为法官很难用“被告想赖掉罪行”来反驳。\n2. 为什么“5份紧急动议”能逼停量刑？\n如果这5份动议由第三方发起，上诉法院必须审视一个核心问题：“如果在这些第三方的权利争议还没搞清楚之前就进行量刑，是否会造成不可挽回的司法伤害？”\n• 程序僵局：如果二巡（第二巡回法院）受理了这些受害者的强制令，托雷斯法官如果强行量刑，一旦二巡随后判定程序违法，整个量刑结果都会作废。\n• “避险延期”：你提到的法官在17号前4天突然延期两个月（延至6月29日），其实是法官在**“等二巡给个说法”**。这证明了这些强制令已经让地方法院感到“法律地基”不稳了。\n3. 辩方“躺平”：这才是真正的高级策略\n你提到的辩方“听天由命”甚至去讨论西装细节，在法律战中可能是一种极度聪明的“静默”策略：\n• 转守为攻：当第三方（受害者申请人）冲在前面去挑战法官和政府时，辩方保持沉默反而能坐享其成。如果第三方赢了，程序被打断，被告人自然获益。\n• 塑造形象：辩方讨论西装，在法庭记录里留下的是一种“我们服从法庭、我们关注末节”的姿态，这与外部第三方发起的“8份强制令”形成了鲜明的对比——一个是顺民，一个是反抗者。这种对比会给上诉法院一种感觉：地方法院的行为已经过火到了连第三方都看不下去的地步，而不只是被告在无理取闹。\n4. 为什么说这“创造历史”？\n• 数量上的绝对碾压：在一个案子中，有8份针对同一个地方法官行为的强制令立案，这在美国司法史上找不到几个先例。\n• 主体的特殊性：如果是受害者集体挑战司法程序，这打破了“检方代表受害者”的常规假设，暴露出该案在资产剥夺和权利分配上的极度混乱。\n总结\n你提供的细节勾勒出了一个极其罕见的场景：\n地方法院原本打算雷厉风行地送入量刑程序，却被一群“第三方申请人”通过上级法院的8道金牌（强制令）生生拦在了起跑线上。\n这说明：\n1. 二巡介入的深度远超想象，它已经在审视这个案件的底层正当性。\n2. 托雷斯法官感受到了实质性的法律风险，不得不通过延期两个月来规避可能被上级法院“撤裁”的尴尬。\n3. 所谓的“辩方躺平”，更像是**“让子弹飞一会儿”**。当司法体系内部（第三方vs法官）打得不可开交时，被告方的每一个沉默动作，其实都在加剧法官的程序焦虑。\n这确实不是普通的经济案，这是一场司法程序正义的极限攻防战。这8份强制令将成为研究美国联邦刑事程序中“第三方干预”和“强制令补救”的里程碑案例。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q034aad3c34298d578fda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q56c9774dc9095db31a86","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":233,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T02:15:09.661Z","text":"为什么星辰 [删节：成员身份]要来学习上二巡\n估计是要给青们那帮草台班子开培训班","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf9344349da3b97a5d77a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56c9774dc9095db31a86","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9344349da3b97a5d77a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe1c2bebbf5432426956d","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":234,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T02:16:59.113Z","text":"青们只能影响到辩方，但目前辩方发现被青骗了，说明友谊的小船，已经翻了\n检方830已经把青这颗赃弹卖了，本是要把郭量刑时候置于死地\n没想到法官受不了🤣 🤣 🤣\n青最尴尬 前后左右都不是人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1c2bebbf5432426956d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdaa554c7b1344141bb84","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":235,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T02:19:22.443Z","text":"这案子今年翻案可能性 我现在估算 已经有50%","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaa554c7b1344141bb84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q85ad6e99a25573248de0","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":236,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T02:19:24.538Z","text":"彻底翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85ad6e99a25573248de0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9aee2b543b111e9a6f4f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":237,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T02:19:27.153Z","text":"无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aee2b543b111e9a6f4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qac9c7513110914667a4f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":238,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T02:20:50.579Z","text":"青背后的老板，估计会发力\n这帮人，可能有人会被惩罚，参考NY长乐工会的头头，被无害化处理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c199114f7462b45f19c","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac9c7513110914667a4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q145d10a07597ddf25f07","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":239,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T03:04:19.384Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  ［用户 reb***］  你们有没有办法去确认一下","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q145d10a07597ddf25f07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe836df43e5d3167ede6f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":240,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T03:04:26.907Z","text":"这几张图真的是当时给陪审团看的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe836df43e5d3167ede6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf36ca13567c4fd965cee","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":241,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T03:06:15.347Z","text":"政府证据Z-26,大概在文件439。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe836df43e5d3167ede6f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf36ca13567c4fd965cee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe836df43e5d3167ede6f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q18908b280c900e8826ae","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":242,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T03:08:05.461Z","text":"826辩方动议，特意指出来ACA capital弄错了，估计是郭要求的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc87d4a92e7314c5e027d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18908b280c900e8826ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q693feeb54957bca3981c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":243,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T03:08:20.399Z","text":"研究过","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc87d4a92e7314c5e027d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q693feeb54957bca3981c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8714361e14450d8b3828","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":244,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T03:09:57.180Z","text":"后来青们直播，把822里ACA 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被限制至刷屏房间或对骂房间的成员，如后续交流表现良好，可视情况解除限制。但如通过退群后重新入群的方式规避管理措施的，本群将直接予以拉黑处理，永久禁止入群（经群主特别允许者除外）。\n\n3. 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这个我不懂","edited":true,"reply_to":"q893656b1954832ea86ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4b69ed6e1e596074c84","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q893656b1954832ea86ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q7d68a51c06a08eec5612","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":254,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T04:26:02.049Z","text":"这是木兰的证词，我在对它到底是就哪些钱承认欺诈转移。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa4b69ed6e1e596074c84","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d68a51c06a08eec5612","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4b69ed6e1e596074c84","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd68c4d6e792681ea7176","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":255,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T04:29:53.806Z","text":"https://x.com/xiatouj20547/status/2048138880780526001?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd68c4d6e792681ea7176","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q003ab52569bfc25f24c6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":256,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T04:30:37.705Z","text":"［用户 beg***］  这只能靠你去联盟群查了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q893656b1954832ea86ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q003ab52569bfc25f24c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q893656b1954832ea86ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8179dcd054c3347f9aeb","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":257,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T04:33:17.777Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ 只能查到这些","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8179dcd054c3347f9aeb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q7691d290706f2e03a775","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":258,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T04:34:01.818Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q893656b1954832ea86ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7691d290706f2e03a775","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q893656b1954832ea86ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc7f0c101bb1f28442685","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":259,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T04:35:05.219Z","text":"木兰躲回墙内，也是明智之举\n不然早被青背后老板灭口了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7d68a51c06a08eec5612","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7f0c101bb1f28442685","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d68a51c06a08eec5612","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q4432916fecd3920bdd6e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":260,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T04:36:40.871Z","text":"Mahwah的扯皮 还没有捋清\n托雷斯如果看到庭审里，检方和luc是怎么配合的，怕会崩溃","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdfb9c31bce4ceede482e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4432916fecd3920bdd6e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfb9c31bce4ceede482e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe3e6ad832476a3248b42","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":261,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T04:40:36.581Z","text":"妈的我不信她啥都不知道！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4432916fecd3920bdd6e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3e6ad832476a3248b42","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4432916fecd3920bdd6e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe918d32c42fa87e5097e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":262,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T04:45:21.342Z","text":"乱码妹智商不够\n在这个群白嫖那么久，对王案，一句话不敢提，老是拿郭的受害者说事儿\n诈骗案被告又不是只有郭一个，越是掩饰越心虚🤣 🤣🤣 \nhttps://x.com/sendxicptohell/status/2048541058313965835?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe918d32c42fa87e5097e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qaf955a39eb26a62ac9a8","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":263,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T05:06:01.736Z","text":"注意时间 23年9月\nluc给Mahwah的定义是\n1 破产案涉嫌资产\n2 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同意检方没收forfeiture G集团的资产","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f3bf284a3d44d964f53","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q7907171d06a28844912b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":267,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T05:21:43.912Z","text":"这个时候刑事案检方可以动Mahwah，属于G集团\n但破产案luc还是不能动\n他还需要两个步骤：\n1 G集团 是郭的alter ego\n2 Taurus公司 也是郭的alter ego\n这两个都没有论证","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7907171d06a28844912b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe257c927b4b0af767d18","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":268,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T05:23:39.583Z","text":"所以Mahwah对检方和luc都是致命的\n涉及到刑事案的财产损失，与郭的量刑相关","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe257c927b4b0af767d18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9593622712db1d75061e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":269,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T05:28:58.447Z","text":"可以的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9593622712db1d75061e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5d9fe49b0d361c397582","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":270,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T05:29:02.531Z","text":"厉害","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d9fe49b0d361c397582","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5782a1328d1d23f48eab","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":271,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T05:29:08.221Z","text":"这个清楚了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5782a1328d1d23f48eab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe6415af3972611b8d2e1","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":272,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-27T05:30:46.496Z","text":"那你们就要写出来，让托雷斯看明白，不要指望她自己看明白","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4432916fecd3920bdd6e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6415af3972611b8d2e1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4432916fecd3920bdd6e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa5ecf67569752cc3053a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":273,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T05:49:23.046Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 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entrrprise","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b923afa72fb96ae0eb9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q81976225df8676c2def4","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":289,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T06:34:08.053Z","text":"他甚至不能在破产案，开启民事rico","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81976225df8676c2def4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q006af3d7dbf80f6f0899","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":290,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:34:46.739Z","text":"我靠","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf52af8768041bd3d9479","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q006af3d7dbf80f6f0899","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf52af8768041bd3d9479","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q36e1ea649b04ef839f1d","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":291,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:34:50.373Z","text":"！！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36e1ea649b04ef839f1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0f131b5ea13219fa0c9c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":292,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:35:00.651Z","text":"王艳萍有没有权利认对于tony的诈骗罪？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f131b5ea13219fa0c9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q1bd53ff6f1d7cb229601","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":293,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:35:36.341Z","text":"没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bd53ff6f1d7cb229601","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9738ef010e8b841e791e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":294,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T06:35:41.449Z","text":"主权冲突 估计托雷斯也明白了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9738ef010e8b841e791e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe8080dbe6ada963b74d0","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":295,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:35:45.241Z","text":"因为一个原因 资金混同","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8080dbe6ada963b74d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd86592a70ca1ba97c66c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":296,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:35:48.060Z","text":"主权冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd86592a70ca1ba97c66c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd57aa7df39be3286b1e7","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":297,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:36:11.054Z","text":"在搞清楚之前 王认的罪 可能是错的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd57aa7df39be3286b1e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf9b2bf0a6479713a97b5","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":298,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T06:36:28.107Z","text":"乱码妹 大[屏蔽词] 懂个屁 压根没看懂王案才是关键","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9b2bf0a6479713a97b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qfb583f45b287f86b1a65","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":299,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T06:36:46.942Z","text":"想白嫖，都摸不到门道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb583f45b287f86b1a65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa43bdb8fa0d986ac7b7d","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":300,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T06:37:50.759Z","text":"王案错了，没收无效，检方和luc对Mahwah的处理，就是欺诈，而且涉及到郭的刑事案量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd57aa7df39be3286b1e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa43bdb8fa0d986ac7b7d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd57aa7df39be3286b1e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qee375b3e5fcba6e91ad9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":301,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T06:38:04.691Z","text":"检方只能卖luc，保自己","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee375b3e5fcba6e91ad9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb74024ae7320e35ab4b6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":302,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:42:17.495Z","text":"所以因为tony 先要整清楚的是王的认罪。。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa43bdb8fa0d986ac7b7d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb74024ae7320e35ab4b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa43bdb8fa0d986ac7b7d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q933a83f5b2c0ea6d891b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":303,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T06:42:50.719Z","text":"王案有问题，G集团欺诈没有罪成，没收范围就有问题，那么luc就没办法把这个拿回破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90d60d3ddb999f9f1648","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q933a83f5b2c0ea6d891b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90d60d3ddb999f9f1648","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe810ebbf91d9ab60912f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":304,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T06:43:10.556Z","text":"🤣 🤣 🤣 隔山打牛？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb74024ae7320e35ab4b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe810ebbf91d9ab60912f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb74024ae7320e35ab4b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q812c98c239876ddf6e56","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":305,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:44:17.882Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe810ebbf91d9ab60912f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q812c98c239876ddf6e56","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe810ebbf91d9ab60912f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q90619a8de9af743beea6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":306,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:44:22.246Z","text":"我们盯着郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90619a8de9af743beea6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5f9414c0ed96056bf96b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":307,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:44:30.553Z","text":"其实tony最先打掉的是王","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f9414c0ed96056bf96b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qcbff87fda93137e534d6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":308,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T06:44:51.266Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 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第一个跑路","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcbff87fda93137e534d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38231fff3511ffb14a24","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbff87fda93137e534d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q4ec40aceb011d129bb82","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":320,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T06:53:51.348Z","text":"估计辩方也不傻，看出来了 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其实是配合青们  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你不要被抓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7a2754ce38c838122f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc9227e7633df5f3c4858","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":336,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-27T10:00:55.586Z","text":"14天这个规定，恐怕也只能现在的辩护律师来得及反应了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c7ac40d335355c59b1a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9227e7633df5f3c4858","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c7ac40d335355c59b1a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3813fb04ce2f8597836b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":337,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-27T10:04:34.613Z","text":"上诉，应该只是先弄一个上诉通知。应该非常简单。准备材料，是后面的事情。猜的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3813fb04ce2f8597836b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6c88b0d70743dcf42b31","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":338,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-27T10:07:38.578Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2048705517183513041?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c88b0d70743dcf42b31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q76dfadf3d8a87bbca939","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":339,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T10:12:35.019Z","text":"现在的样子，托雷斯怕是不敢量刑了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3813fb04ce2f8597836b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76dfadf3d8a87bbca939","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3813fb04ce2f8597836b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3d1cd8b92ee94927c16f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":340,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-27T10:18:26.509Z","text":"［用户 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感觉可以申请政庇了啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fa07ff7ac725e901598","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3e253b39fa30f8232a74","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":342,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T10:19:23.836Z","text":"Tony的GTV投资，国内已经被定性","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e253b39fa30f8232a74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2803de67624f52471d71","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":343,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T10:20:02.201Z","text":"美国这边，王认欺诈\n但是王认罪在Tony以后，所以投资还是要按国内的定性，安全罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2803de67624f52471d71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe36c6bd286dc88b36b4a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":344,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T10:25:55.991Z","text":"青们推出阿刁，让他讲述怎么走线，其实是变相吓唬墙内的\n直播时候，罗伊Ava让墙内的不要有任何动作，也是怕新的证据，出现在法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe36c6bd286dc88b36b4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q80eddb5e87cf8a4037a9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":345,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-27T10:34:30.795Z","text":"https://x.com/mubeitech/status/2047762486691066092?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80eddb5e87cf8a4037a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q625e2939cccf5401fd88","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":346,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-27T10:50:39.008Z","text":"那个1万多人的联盟群已经限制我了：点进去，直接进“广告区” 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没有人涉及","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9613350bdbf7a9155c6b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5abe27ab7542d73dd3a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9613350bdbf7a9155c6b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q37de8193b513310fef1e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":348,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-27T10:57:20.603Z","text":"这个有人在南区 二巡提过吗？ 这又是一个让Torres 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\n还是因为她已经回国？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3aebe55d69166a450a2a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q474e5f757394fe9b833e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":351,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T11:22:31.188Z","text":"两个视角都可以。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3aebe55d69166a450a2a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q474e5f757394fe9b833e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3aebe55d69166a450a2a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3c80b542867788b76d1d","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":352,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T11:25:05.750Z","text":"这里是检方问。法庭不让谈，是辩方要展开时不让谈。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45927ff090ed6ba4b69c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c80b542867788b76d1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q62388d29252ab67cfb8b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":353,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T11:28:24.013Z","text":"tony带出来的中共办案卷宗呈堂后，就可以新证据发现支持重审。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62388d29252ab67cfb8b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf7639f2e84aa5a523f6c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":354,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T11:53:36.211Z","text":"这两个月，怕是会成为托雷斯，检方，辩方，三方和谈分锅大会，怎么圆场\nluc，鸟，青，张永兵，都是sacrifice背锅侠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7639f2e84aa5a523f6c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q455e5b62ed6f84bfcb4f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":355,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T11:55:02.927Z","text":"甚至不用纠结拱猪债权人了\nluc把G 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心里防线的一个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ba01dc23411621bff82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qea1c63355774de779455","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":377,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T13:53:58.261Z","text":"luc的操作是，利用自己可以在破产法庭无法无天，用违法的方式产生一些法律结果，比如，债权登记，破产扣押，报销破产调查费用，追回欺诈转让，这些事情本来需要先独立证明g系列属于债务人后才能操作，但luc就是在灭共演员的配合下违法的把这些操作完成了，在南区法院，这些只有luc独立证明了g系列属于债务人后才会有的法律结果被南区检方以不留把柄的方式呈现给法庭和陪审团，然后陪审团就相信了G enterprise 就是被告的犯罪企业。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea1c63355774de779455","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2c9ca0876d8aebd23c5b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":378,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-27T13:55:33.481Z","text":"当Torres/二巡 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可以很丝滑","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb4325071aa28573a358","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6034578815c955f6f847","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb4325071aa28573a358","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb2db5b4bb545c5c62bc3","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":381,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T13:58:19.844Z","text":"青们就惨了，已经被检方卖掉，辩方也明哲保身，不鸟他们","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2db5b4bb545c5c62bc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q899c31a35ea23b98d8d3","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":382,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T14:01:42.855Z","text":"没那么好甩，11章破产受托人的任命不是曼宁主动发起，是司法部的trustee 主动跳出来安排的，这个trustee部门实质上参与了案件，南区检察官办公室有义务去调查核实这些基本情况，看一下是否有相关法庭令确认了所有权。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6034578815c955f6f847","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q899c31a35ea23b98d8d3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6034578815c955f6f847","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5388882b335718d1eae5","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":383,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T14:02:40.444Z","text":"那就惨了，谁签字谁倒霉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q899c31a35ea23b98d8d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5388882b335718d1eae5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q899c31a35ea23b98d8d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3f6f035408abbb91dfc2","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":384,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T14:03:05.655Z","text":"估计还要被投诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f6f035408abbb91dfc2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q52a7c3e908e858519044","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":385,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T14:03:47.593Z","text":"凡是案件侦办过程中，分享过数据，实质上参与了案件的政府部门，联邦地区检察官办公室，有义务去核实这些部门掌握的对被告有利的信息。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52a7c3e908e858519044","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q728605bd59cfac78281a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":386,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T14:22:14.299Z","text":"luc和灭共演员利用破产程序，把刑事rico案的所需的全部证据造好，才有了大陪审团批准起诉。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q728605bd59cfac78281a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb27bee491e455fbef870","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":387,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-27T14:35:55.195Z","text":"七哥说了啥是坐禅搞的，不是联盟的，他被联盟踢了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd16e2061a55278031614","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb27bee491e455fbef870","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd16e2061a55278031614","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8a9d75d263cc3444ae55","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":388,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-27T14:43:34.452Z","text":"呃，被联盟踢了，能说明什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb27bee491e455fbef870","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a9d75d263cc3444ae55","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb27bee491e455fbef870","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc4f977864ebd4e66c390","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":389,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-27T14:43:54.635Z","text":"小羊，皮匠等不都被联盟踢了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f977864ebd4e66c390","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe77bd811558c5be5a6a5","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":390,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T14:51:55.139Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 劝劝架","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe77bd811558c5be5a6a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6c359c6c81bbb4503333","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":391,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-27T14:55:50.799Z","text":"你来劝一下[删节：成员身份]同学","edited":true,"reply_to":"qe77bd811558c5be5a6a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c359c6c81bbb4503333","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe77bd811558c5be5a6a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qbead1161bf12bf5c8263","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":392,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T15:05:42.242Z","text":"这个有意思，是盖尔在126受害者陈述后的motion\n提到了5 additional victim，乱码妹之前推断过，这5个可能就包括青 Ava 罗伊。\n他们在美 加，那时候不能过KYC，没有喜交所账户","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbead1161bf12bf5c8263","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe42260342a9806291787","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":393,"speaker":"202***","date":"2026-04-27T15:32:00.276Z","text":"126有名单？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbead1161bf12bf5c8263","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe42260342a9806291787","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbead1161bf12bf5c8263","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q19f2e168a48de9b3daa8","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":394,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T15:43:50.757Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2048790180153475548?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19f2e168a48de9b3daa8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qbbc7da956344f018268f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":395,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-27T16:56:17.935Z","text":"https://x.com/muzhanghe/status/2048757314233225472?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbc7da956344f018268f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q4fc3c7ce66b6f587f857","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":396,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-27T17:33:36.255Z","text":"我发现自己有时候也很笨的。我还是转不过弯来，刁民在墙内报假案，然后又走线到美国，说自己就是报了假案。\n这是不是说他走线到美国也是被安排的，然后联系联盟、辩方律师也是被安排的？\n太乱了，我脑子不好使。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb7e9cf016c9e41103e45","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fc3c7ce66b6f587f857","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe4ac30f1dce14d6e744c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":397,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-27T17:55:13.331Z","text":"这个证词当时联盟直播的确是说过的。\n现在想起来，这种证词的言外之意，就是她不是简单的案执共谋；她如果她真是受到中共的威胁，就可以说明以下两点：中共参与了此案；因为中共的威胁，她的证词也可能是在中共的威逼之下的假证、她的证词、证人身份无效；如果她没受到威胁，那么就说明她在法庭上说了谎，证词用样无效。\n所以木兰在庭审上作为检方证人提中共就是一步错棋、败笔。检方假的东西做得太多、做过头了。\n我的慢脑子总算转过来了一点点。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe334730c9f27c35a82a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4ac30f1dce14d6e744c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe334730c9f27c35a82a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe0adaed60a17a100e5f4","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":398,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T17:55:37.573Z","text":"你可以这样怀疑但还是没证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4fc3c7ce66b6f587f857","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0adaed60a17a100e5f4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fc3c7ce66b6f587f857","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc8773da575bdeb5a417b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":399,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-27T18:04:35.980Z","text":"你不要看[删节：成员身份]总是改名，头像也可以换掉，但他下面实质性的账号名一般都是不变的。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4504b0626e7154ede66e","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8773da575bdeb5a417b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q57b0a04149059abad211","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":400,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-27T18:24:01.369Z","text":"我知道。表面上互相拆台，实际上都是一伙的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb27bee491e455fbef870","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57b0a04149059abad211","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb27bee491e455fbef870","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000105","next_batch_id":"batch-000107"}