{"id":"batch-000106","number":106,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-04-26T15:23:08.151Z","date_end":"2026-04-29T06:45:45.100Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 106 (Apr 26, 2026 – Apr 29, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions center on three main threads: alleged procedural or substantive injustice, including disputes over \"serving prison time for you,\" evidentiary defects, Brady disclosures, and indictment flaws; procedural strategy splits regarding the Second Circuit, stays, victim status, and third-party litigation, dividing those prioritizing actionable reviewable issues from those demanding total substantive confrontation; and forfeiture-bankruptcy overlaps involving Mahwah, alter ego determinations, and Wang's case, alongside community governance, evidence preservation, and political interpretations.","guide_en":[{"title":"Ongoing debate over the claim of \"serving prison time for you\" and allegations of procedural injustice","description":"Participants dispute claims regarding serving prison time and debate whether procedural injustice can overturn a 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followed Tony's, meaning investments should still be classified under domestic terms as security offenses."},{"message_id":"qf52af8768041bd3d9479","summary_en":"joh*** contends that Wang's guilty plea is problematic and that the agreed forfeiture covering GTV and Tony will be overturned."},{"message_id":"q59ce6a651f1b5db3806d","summary_en":"kir*** contends that the prosecution has lost its standing following ECF 733."}]},{"title":"Financial chains and liability boundaries: Mahwah, ACA, alter ego, and joint entity determinations","description":"Participants examine corporate entity liabilities and alter ego determinations involving Mahwah and ACA Capital.","message_ids":["q1a24ff5cfac2a3cb1cd3","q90d60d3ddb999f9f1648","q62388d29252ab67cfb8b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1a24ff5cfac2a3cb1cd3","summary_en":"joh*** describes the status of whether Taurus, which purchased the Mahwah property, is Guo's alter ego as remaining pending until sentencing."},{"message_id":"q90d60d3ddb999f9f1648","summary_en":"reb*** contends that once Judge Torres confirms G Enterprise in the criminal case, Luc will cite that ruling to seek Trustee Manning's confirmation of ACA Capital and other entities as debtor alter egos."},{"message_id":"q62388d29252ab67cfb8b","summary_en":"reb*** argues that once the Chinese case files brought out by Tony are admitted in court, they can serve as newly discovered evidence supporting a retrial."}]},{"title":"Organizational allegiance and role labeling: conflicts over allies, adversaries, centrists, and creating enemies","description":"Participants dispute factional allegiances, moderates, and interpersonal conflict within the group.","message_ids":["q3c459838b7942858ce00","q213762bcfd68bc634b66","q29ded4a69b700e652950"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3c459838b7942858ce00","summary_en":"sar*** contends that Guo is also serving prison time on behalf of the anti-whistleblower 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打的最狠","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea5526675d412d8fe42b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q839f612d6c4758ee14fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea5526675d412d8fe42b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q67dafad31868810817d4","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":460,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T20:37:51.527Z","text":"你看下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67dafad31868810817d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9834606415db18d02658","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":461,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T20:38:01.971Z","text":"检方这一份水平太低 错漏百出………","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50bfe317ee7b012d2a2f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9834606415db18d02658","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50bfe317ee7b012d2a2f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q622900ad3eb74b83a752","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":462,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T20:38:16.860Z","text":"这些[屏蔽词]应该是第一次打二巡 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kir***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78fc44d9b1dd87acea32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6ef954ce14bc77ebcf32","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":489,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T22:48:05.187Z","text":"ok","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ef954ce14bc77ebcf32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q41162803a25a6a2bc6b9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":490,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T23:05:11.455Z","text":"这是检方第一次正面直接回应自诉人，之前在文件511里，还是暗戳戳地回应。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41162803a25a6a2bc6b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qfac49d0e952dc795de34","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":491,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-27T23:28:28.282Z","text":"Stay 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kir***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba72bf170061c31d3369","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb3424ee59f437289f1fb","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":493,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-27T23:28:59.671Z","text":"到底有几个stay的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3424ee59f437289f1fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0ed371f8aba5ef46fa78","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":494,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T23:31:33.363Z","text":"5个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ed371f8aba5ef46fa78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qce7253c58763f6b6bf9d","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":495,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T23:31:45.712Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce7253c58763f6b6bf9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q35d73a3493b9cb878817","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":496,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T23:31:48.781Z","text":"jason是记录保存","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35d73a3493b9cb878817","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6444bc1ba275ed82d28b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":497,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-27T23:32:23.637Z","text":"他没反对beginning?","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6444bc1ba275ed82d28b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q80c5336c0ea9039c5fb7","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":498,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T23:32:36.626Z","text":"没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80c5336c0ea9039c5fb7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q757b74df6af8f33cf605","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":499,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T23:32:46.332Z","text":"现在检方反对四个人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q757b74df6af8f33cf605","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf69170e96562eb7fdffc","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":500,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-27T23:33:08.693Z","text":"哦， 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beg***］ 的案卷上有没有检方的反对？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf24fe7a3a23c46a6be34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qae5f6d57e1587b429055","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":506,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-28T00:09:44.435Z","text":"她发的南区，检方不care😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae5f6d57e1587b429055","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q81c71e071fcaac7c781c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":507,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-28T00:10:01.460Z","text":"有二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":"qae5f6d57e1587b429055","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81c71e071fcaac7c781c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae5f6d57e1587b429055","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5e598c2f29915cbc8b96","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":508,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-28T00:19:39.600Z","text":"检方是想把所有自诉攻击它的都说成是共谋者，所以说这些人只是潜在受害者，你提交的511，说不是共谋者就是受害者，那意思就是说自诉人可能是共谋者。那你在南区再去提交几个“受害者陈述”，说被告指挥自诉人进行自诉攻击政府，你把第二批诈骗团伙的诈骗行为说成郭指挥，就是用的“受害者陈述”，你也可以如法炮制啊，还可以给被告加刑，多好。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e598c2f29915cbc8b96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q45fc160a2203905d26a4","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":509,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-28T00:21:08.727Z","text":"本群的潜伏，是不是可以写几个受害者陈述，让检方用用。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45fc160a2203905d26a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2bb4528b19ec5bff434b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":510,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-28T00:23:28.593Z","text":"［用户 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检方是想逼二巡表态？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ebac17b27167d4000c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qbea6e70020c626ee96cb","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":512,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-28T00:31:08.633Z","text":"王案其实主要还是牵扯到郭案的没收，然后破产案luc的追钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13e57d685c68cd8d0670","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbea6e70020c626ee96cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13e57d685c68cd8d0670","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q89f86b3b1b6a0ee6653f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":513,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-28T00:33:02.108Z","text":"王案联系到郭，其实是两条线 受害者和没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89f86b3b1b6a0ee6653f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q323e35ee8ba7917ab6e2","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":514,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-28T00:36:42.719Z","text":"Tony撬动王案，其实更多是质疑没收，涉及主权冲突\n这个没说清楚前，不能开没收，luc不能动资产","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q323e35ee8ba7917ab6e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q1e74dd14f9e3be0cc306","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":515,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-28T00:38:12.463Z","text":"但是针对Mahwah，检方和luc已经提前达成协议并处置，这是严重的司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e74dd14f9e3be0cc306","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdce951feb6e2bbf83cd9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":516,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-28T00:48:24.387Z","text":"按照您的思路，现在luc花的7000多万的破产调查费用等行政费用，都存在这个问题。所以它们必须维持G enterprise 就是郭，里面的各个实体就是郭这个叙事，这应该也是gtv已经无罪了还是要强行推动没收的原因。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e74dd14f9e3be0cc306","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdce951feb6e2bbf83cd9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e74dd14f9e3be0cc306","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa37f21fb95985c77c3b2","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":517,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-28T00:51:26.178Z","text":"可以仔细研读木兰证词里，张永兵让木兰签字，不然就赔3800万那一段，那一段是误导陪审团和法庭的重要部分之一，这场戏让rico深入了陪审团的心。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa37f21fb95985c77c3b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q32fbf0c9abceaa1947ba","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":518,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-28T00:52:44.509Z","text":"检方问，据你所知，是郭下令张永兵让你签，然后辩方反对被托雷斯驳回。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32fbf0c9abceaa1947ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q68a0ae393f73fe6fff55","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":519,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-28T00:53:02.534Z","text":"李亚回国 是哪里的信息？ 有证明吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68a0ae393f73fe6fff55","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q680bec29c2814f128561","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":520,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-28T00:58:52.020Z","text":"对，没收源自王，不是郭， 他没认罪\n通过alter 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检方把被告打死了 然后被受害者拖上二巡 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