{"id":"batch-000106","number":106,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-04-26T15:23:08.151Z","date_end":"2026-04-29T06:45:45.100Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 106 (Apr 26, 2026 – Apr 29, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussion centered on interwoven procedural and substantive disputes. Participants argued whether alleged translation, disclosure, and evidence flaws could overturn outcomes; whether to prioritize second-appeal steps such as record reservations versus broader merits attacks; and whether forfeiture, bankruptcy, and alter-ego theories could reframe liability for assets. They also disputed victim-status strategy and moderation norms, while the thread expanded from case doctrine into governance conflict and AI/media/political narrative speculation around the parties. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Truth of the “sit in jail for you” framing and procedural-injustice claims remain contested","description":"Participants argued and disputed whether prosecutors were exploiting the “sit in jail for you” framing, and whether alleged process defects were a decisive path to acquittal or merely one side’s narrative claim. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf54bcae7c4e4d9bde8db","qab50b82fad4653478759","q963f2115f2ad2df9e9ec"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf54bcae7c4e4d9bde8db","summary_en":"A participant asked if prosecutors were using the “sit in jail for you” phrase as a tactical narrative, contesting how much weight that claim should carry. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qab50b82fad4653478759","summary_en":"Another participant recounted a prior case where missing Chinese translation during search was treated as severe procedure injustice and suggested that deleted or failed recording evidence can collapse a prosecution even when substantive allegations existed. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q963f2115f2ad2df9e9ec","summary_en":"A participant confirmed the prosecution-use concern existed, sustaining the split over motive and impact. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Charging paper and evidence defect review: translation gaps, video, Brady, and disclosure disputes","description":"Participants contended that translation omissions, missing recordings, and disclosure allegations were being positioned as review issues, with disagreement over how far these claims should drive immediate litigation decisions. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qef885c98924b5df8b119","q1122f3cc04d7f9aef1d8","q292318112f72a021d151"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qef885c98924b5df8b119","summary_en":"A participant argued that procedural injustice claims must be handled in the second appellate cycle rather than deferred. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1122f3cc04d7f9aef1d8","summary_en":"Another participant pointed to a judicial delay as what they viewed as evidence of a procedural problem. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q292318112f72a021d151","summary_en":"A participant reported that the defense was claiming the prosecution lacked proof that the defendant directed money transfers, framing this as a key evidentiary gap. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Second-review strategy disputes: split motions, stay opposition, new counsel service, and timing","description":"Participants contended that second-appeal sequencing was central, with some arguing for immediate record steps and stay opposition and others challenging what issues could actually be aired in the Southern District phase. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0ce524d15e5023cb3a14","qc3d8260f3c35fca3be3e","q4ebbb30543c09319f7ca"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0ce524d15e5023cb3a14","summary_en":"A participant argued the priority was restoring factual truth by June 29 with a hoped outcome of acquittal. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc3d8260f3c35fca3be3e","summary_en":"Another participant disputed the ability to fully litigate in that posture, saying the appellate phase only allowed preserved records and expression of opposition. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4ebbb30543c09319f7ca","summary_en":"A participant asked whether, even without filing new uploads, counsel could still make a record-only reservation for the second review. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Litigation-split: pursue immediate contestable nodes versus waiting and targeting pre-sentencing review issues","description":"Participants argued over whether there is one practical route, with some insisting on immediate tactical moves and others advocating a staged, evidence-timed approach before broader merits expansion. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0d0d6a3d06a392e80687","q1a4ca681709893b60a0a","q15faa8405b167a467ac5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0d0d6a3d06a392e80687","summary_en":"A participant claimed there was only one viable litigation road at that moment. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1a4ca681709893b60a0a","summary_en":"Another participant asserted that Guo should be imprisoned. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q15faa8405b167a467ac5","summary_en":"A participant argued that direct evidence submission to the judge at the right moment could trigger a reversal, suggesting a timing-first strategy. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim status and third-party route: losses first or victim statements first","description":"Participants contended over whether to start with loss quantification and property harm or rely on victim declarations to alter posture, and they disputed whether third-party self-initiated claims could be recast as victim narratives. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q5367e4d27b83aa6c84c2","q5e598c2f29915cbc8b96","q34241f774bdc008cdd6e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5367e4d27b83aa6c84c2","summary_en":"A participant questioned why only 50 true victims were cited while 134 victim statements appeared, noting DOJ references to document 833 and an Apr 22 2026 filing context with a possible rise to 226. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5e598c2f29915cbc8b96","summary_en":"A participant argued prosecutors may label self-prosecution actors as conspirators, so submitting additional victim statements could both weaken that claim and potentially support higher sentencing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q34241f774bdc008cdd6e","summary_en":"A participant asked whether the self-complaint path was beneficial or harmful to Guo, disputing its strategic utility. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Forfeiture and bankruptcy overlap: Wang plea, remission scope, and “733” effects","description":"Participants contended about how forfeiture and bankruptcy interact, with disputes over Wang’s plea chronology, asset scope including GTV/Tony, and whether the position after “733” weakened prosecution leverage. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2803de67624f52471d71","qf52af8768041bd3d9479","q59ce6a651f1b5db3806d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2803de67624f52471d71","summary_en":"A participant argued that Wang’s U.S. fraud plea came after Tony and therefore related investment characterizations should be read by domestic legal framing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf52af8768041bd3d9479","summary_en":"Another participant claimed Wang’s plea arrangement was flawed and that consensual forfeiture covering GTV, including Tony, should be overturned. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q59ce6a651f1b5db3806d","summary_en":"A participant asserted the prosecution position was substantially weakened after “733,” reflecting a disputed assessment of momentum. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Financial chain and accountability boundary: Mahwah, ACA/Mahua, alter ego, and common-entity claims","description":"Participants argued over whether Mahwah/Taurus status, ACA/Mahua-related entities, and alter-ego theories could be used to attribute liability across entities, and how these moves might support later review arguments. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q1a24ff5cfac2a3cb1cd3","q90d60d3ddb999f9f1648","q62388d29252ab67cfb8b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1a24ff5cfac2a3cb1cd3","summary_en":"A participant said the question of whether the Mahwah Taurus company is Guo’s alter ego was still pending into sentencing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q90d60d3ddb999f9f1648","summary_en":"Another participant cited a Torres-confirmed G enterprise judgment and argued Luc might use it to push ACA CAPITAL entities as the defendant’s alter egos, asking Manning to certify them as debtor alter egos. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q62388d29252ab67cfb8b","summary_en":"A participant contended that if tony-related CCP files were introduced, new evidence could justify retrial, tying financial-chaining arguments to future evidentiary openings. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Group identity and role labels: allies, opponents, centrists, and the “making enemies” dispute","description":"Participants disputed how to treat members who shared goals but used different methods, and whether criticism reflected strategic disagreement or hostile labeling between allied and adversarial blocs. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3c459838b7942858ce00","q213762bcfd68bc634b66","q29ded4a69b700e652950"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3c459838b7942858ce00","summary_en":"A participant argued that someone was also “sitting in jail” for the coalition, supporting a broader blame attribution. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q213762bcfd68bc634b66","summary_en":"Another participant claimed shared goals with differing methods do not make all opponents enemies, urging participants to ignore noise and avoid infighting. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q29ded4a69b700e652950","summary_en":"A participant disputed the relevance of political labeling, saying the group was not an electoral political actor and that “middle camps” were not inherently linked. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence retention and information integrity: clipping, timeline contamination, and backup disputes","description":"Participants argued that mass reposting and clipping could contaminate chronology, and they disputed whether current preservation practices were adequate to defend against manipulated timelines in AI workflows. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q5a0a82e2701379ef9c10","q55d322e31deabfdafb85"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5a0a82e2701379ef9c10","summary_en":"A participant explained that repeated daily clipping and forwarding of livestream clips can pollute AI timelines and make online archives unreliable without strict timeline review. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q55d322e31deabfdafb85","summary_en":"Another participant thanked another member for identifying a timeline gap, and the group treated that as evidence-supportive for chain-of-custody concerns. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Prosecutorial motive and faction speculation: incompetence claims versus tactical feed theories","description":"Participants disputed whether the prosecution’s approach reflected institutional weakness, strategic feeding of legal pressure, or the effects of AI acceleration, with competing claims about who is advantaged by errors. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9834606415db18d02658","qfa967dce1fa1340d5d96","q8b531c3ff66cfd860711"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9834606415db18d02658","summary_en":"A participant contended the prosecution showed severe quality gaps and repeated mistakes. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfa967dce1fa1340d5d96","summary_en":"Another participant argued the prosecution’s conduct appeared to be artificially assisting Torres rather than being a neutral pursuit, framing it as tactical misdirection. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8b531c3ff66cfd860711","summary_en":"A participant claimed the key dispute was institutional adaptability, arguing that AI made newer actors highly effective and narrowed the gap between parties. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Community governance and moderation: rule enforcement, anti-snitching norms, and silencing dynamics","description":"Participants contended over rule use and enforcement, balancing anti-labeling, anti-spy commitments against perceptions of suppression, with disagreement on when moderation protects order versus silences dissent. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q7138130581407cd30ccc","q57b47cc4b483f6e7a54e","q625e2939cccf5401fd88"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7138130581407cd30ccc","summary_en":"A participant posted group rules requiring case-topic focus, repeated-warning escalation, room restrictions for rule-breakers, and anti-reentry enforcement. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q57b47cc4b483f6e7a54e","summary_en":"Another participant reiterated the anti-defamation rule against “snitch” or false label accusations such as “fake ally,” reinforcing moderation boundaries. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q625e2939cccf5401fd88","summary_en":"A participant claimed a large alliance channel moved them into an ad-only room and interpreted that restriction as fear-driven silencing of case discussion. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Narrative extension to external force theories: AI amplification, media scale, and election framing","description":"Participants argued that legal discussion was increasingly projected into a broader narrative of AI forces, media amplification, and political maneuvering, disputing whether those framings clarified strategy or distracted from case evidence. 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Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论主要围绕三条主线展开：其一，是否存在程序或实质不公，围绕“替你们坐牢”表述、证据缺陷、Brady/取证披露与起诉书瑕疵持续争辩；其二，二巡、stay、受害者身份和第三方诉讼路径的程序策略分歧，部分成员主张先打可操作节点、先争可审查问题，另一些坚持聚焦实体全盘对质。其三，围绕财产没收与破产衔接（含Mahwah、alter 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受美国法律保护了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa69e2aa51c5b72e9327f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qca68f62551e0a9686aaf","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":811,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-04-28T15:40:18.039Z","text":"现在真让我猜对了，国宝也好，公安也好，都要想办法保你平安\n从你直播说投资郭那天开始！\n他至少现在还得保你的工作💼😂😂\n他们蛋真疼🤣🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca68f62551e0a9686aaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q80620b132d7d6bf6f6ad","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":812,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-28T15:49:20.338Z","text":"https://x.com/amos_kp/status/2048962202493931964?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80620b132d7d6bf6f6ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q1bd981817b7fc1534044","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":813,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-28T15:52:05.131Z","text":"你们谁回复他，他把我拉黑很久了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bd981817b7fc1534044","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb6dae650750280c27924","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":814,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-28T16:02:54.235Z","text":"你录了留着保命，不要发布出来。\n不要掉以轻心，初接触时，他们都会很客气的。\n但不妨碍进去被拘留几天。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3a6831206e3a859b993e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6dae650750280c27924","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a6831206e3a859b993e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdf2b9ea48240ca56e4dd","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":815,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-28T16:04:43.823Z","text":"我都回复不了，我从来没和他搭过话","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1bd981817b7fc1534044","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf2b9ea48240ca56e4dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bd981817b7fc1534044","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q531b070ea0ac7b9d96a9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":816,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-28T16:06:23.853Z","text":"他们也不想想，螺丝哥要是不上班，绝对三倍精力拿出来翻案灭g啊。\n让你继续上班是最好的选择。估计你以后还得被安排多加班，抓不了你，就消耗你的精力。\n注意安全，包括生产安全 事故。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q652d5ee1c7a5e9038e31","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q531b070ea0ac7b9d96a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q652d5ee1c7a5e9038e31","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q773392c1060baeff19a7","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":817,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-28T16:09:16.533Z","text":"上二巡的五大金刚的五个文件，会被公布在南区法院吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc967dcde313b9d1cf80d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q773392c1060baeff19a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6f644eda97cc076e69d9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":818,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-28T16:09:31.266Z","text":"不会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f644eda97cc076e69d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9fdb12d1bd32e21dee85","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":819,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-28T16:22:03.787Z","text":"https://x.com/actionaction64/status/2048831105097150524?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fdb12d1bd32e21dee85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q297acfe67f21a15b47a8","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":820,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-28T16:22:40.603Z","text":"你们谁写信给郭了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q297acfe67f21a15b47a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb6af8c7ad65474a55c15","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":821,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-28T16:23:08.653Z","text":"都是假的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6af8c7ad65474a55c15","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd3a9223f3d9b833bbf1f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":822,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-28T16:25:00.567Z","text":"就是，如果我写了，一定会告诉大家怎么写郭可以收到，不会默默地，他们提到的网名你们有见过一个吗？平时都躲在地下？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3a9223f3d9b833bbf1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb579d70c76c6a9eb297f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":823,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-28T16:46:27.020Z","text":"半天没来，这是都发生了什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb579d70c76c6a9eb297f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8a94846982a26d2a6bbb","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":824,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-28T16:47:12.349Z","text":"螺丝哥被喝茶了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a94846982a26d2a6bbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2c72e78aa6fd5f691616","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":825,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-28T16:47:18.684Z","text":"喝了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c72e78aa6fd5f691616","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa27c097014394159643b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":826,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-28T16:47:25.843Z","text":"他们觉得再不喝茶，压不住了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa27c097014394159643b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf74453797f80fa8bc389","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":827,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-28T16:47:51.763Z","text":"要是一群人站出来，他们就麻烦了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf74453797f80fa8bc389","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q39256597af3bb367f547","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":828,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-04-28T16:51:14.241Z","text":"假 天天造假 编小作文","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39256597af3bb367f547","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q63901c137ad7480d0ae8","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":829,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-28T16:51:29.070Z","text":"貌似不是你说的这样。我碰瓷太多人。就没有人举报我。[删节：成员身份]只在微信举报封锁我的微信，删了他好友解决了。在推特真正说举报我的，就是什么那个家伙，还拉黑我了。他发了一张截图给我，看不到具体内容，但是是举报到安全部门的。","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf74453797f80fa8bc389","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63901c137ad7480d0ae8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf74453797f80fa8bc389","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9d9135fe97ae938b1481","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":830,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-28T16:52:41.515Z","text":"哦，那看看后续怎么样吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q63901c137ad7480d0ae8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d9135fe97ae938b1481","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63901c137ad7480d0ae8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qfe71212b9242e1ae16c7","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":831,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-28T17:30:08.475Z","text":"推特举报怎么会惊动国安？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q63901c137ad7480d0ae8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe71212b9242e1ae16c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63901c137ad7480d0ae8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q288282d95e4ca1bcc037","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":832,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-28T17:39:56.408Z","text":"七哥还会在这个时候谈疫苗吗。造假也不会，词早都穷了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q297acfe67f21a15b47a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q288282d95e4ca1bcc037","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q297acfe67f21a15b47a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q30fe56157fee0f97fc02","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":833,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-28T17:43:55.597Z","text":"不是没有可能。大家最近要时刻关注螺丝哥的情况，才有可能保住他。一有风吹草动就把事情揭露给二巡。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfe71212b9242e1ae16c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30fe56157fee0f97fc02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe71212b9242e1ae16c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q193a46f9ab62a1ef4951","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":834,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-28T18:08:06.419Z","text":"我觉得没什么大问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q30fe56157fee0f97fc02","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q193a46f9ab62a1ef4951","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30fe56157fee0f97fc02","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2d14f4998dd143b950ce","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":835,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-28T18:08:20.152Z","text":"完全没问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q193a46f9ab62a1ef4951","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d14f4998dd143b950ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q193a46f9ab62a1ef4951","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8d81693dc816a7ac0eda","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":836,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-28T18:53:46.155Z","text":"如果真有人写信了被七哥点名提到了，怎么不可能激动的在联盟大群里说？是我我肯定到处群里得瑟了，可是联盟群里从来没有人提到过，联盟群现在是炒币群","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d81693dc816a7ac0eda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q7673c018bd23fca41cc5","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":837,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-28T20:08:18.778Z","text":"还在炒诈骗币？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d81693dc816a7ac0eda","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7673c018bd23fca41cc5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d81693dc816a7ac0eda","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9dff4d981dcbcd31ec3c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":838,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-28T20:10:14.482Z","text":"一直啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messa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［用户 lee***］ 离开了 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**。希望他一路好走。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5171643a6a0ce2456807","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2d320ef9170bd276aff5","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":840,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-04-28T21:32:15.299Z","text":"有戰友給七哥寫信得到回覆了嗎？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d81693dc816a7ac0eda","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d320ef9170bd276aff5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d81693dc816a7ac0eda","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf5f4132c4cd7c4838707","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":841,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-28T21:46:52.350Z","text":"841是要钱的？600万？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5f4132c4cd7c4838707","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q346b6006c25bb3ea86f4","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":842,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-28T23:33:55.646Z","text":"是推特上的人把他举报给国安了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfe71212b9242e1ae16c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q346b6006c25bb3ea86f4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe71212b9242e1ae16c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9190d6e0f5ea33319644","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":843,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-28T23:44:51.597Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2049273392298426749?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9190d6e0f5ea33319644","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q1a7d68574d3610131492","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":844,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-29T00:32:57.848Z","text":"据说信全部退回了，郭不可能和“战友” 联系的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d320ef9170bd276aff5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a7d68574d3610131492","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d320ef9170bd276aff5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q20715e8b33a65e78f9c0","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":845,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-29T00:38:08.021Z","text":"这人体制内的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5941377be60c90976d07","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20715e8b33a65e78f9c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qee64fa13ab177b0b80d1","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":846,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T00:39:32.374Z","text":"网格员？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q20715e8b33a65e78f9c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee64fa13ab177b0b80d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20715e8b33a65e78f9c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8f85edf74feb32194923","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":847,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-29T00:40:02.265Z","text":"网格员不算体制内吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f85edf74feb32194923","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdc9c2b25df58f2c82a9f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":848,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-29T00:41:12.394Z","text":"不像，应该是个正常人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee64fa13ab177b0b80d1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc9c2b25df58f2c82a9f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee64fa13ab177b0b80d1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q17a8a3a2bd5d6e452fee","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":849,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-29T00:41:30.925Z","text":"网格员不会举报螺丝哥的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17a8a3a2bd5d6e452fee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8bc8a03f6f9a73762aac","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":850,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T00:43:06.910Z","text":"比如[删节：成员身份]🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"q17a8a3a2bd5d6e452fee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bc8a03f6f9a73762aac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17a8a3a2bd5d6e452fee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf4efa5d59bdd61195df3","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":851,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T00:43:17.726Z","text":"也就微信闹一闹","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4efa5d59bdd61195df3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0709e8b6516998efa634","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":852,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-29T00:44:34.961Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]也不是普通的网格员","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8bc8a03f6f9a73762aac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0709e8b6516998efa634","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bc8a03f6f9a73762aac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q4e32714f35cbae77c3af","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":853,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T00:45:20.052Z","text":"8套房的网格员 ［用户 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还下载不了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qba6147eb5b120bb4f25c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95f32bc8fd18f889d81b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba6147eb5b120bb4f25c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qfa4d13c6483dcb5dbdfd","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":883,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T02:07:32.359Z","text":"都在看戏呢\n青背后的 帮派控制范围 估计到不了山东\n山东的怕是还要保护螺丝哥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q69479ca22ad4699d4abc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa4d13c6483dcb5dbdfd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69479ca22ad4699d4abc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qcad953f75e7081b3a84e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":884,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-29T02:08:20.583Z","text":"山东现在那一派啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa4d13c6483dcb5dbdfd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcad953f75e7081b3a84e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa4d13c6483dcb5dbdfd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa6e1060f0a96c6b65b69","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":885,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-29T02:08:51.978Z","text":"各位坚持住： 现在打开推特， 我的天，奥巴马 Comey， Clinton, 大选舞弊，福奇收下的 都将被抓。形势一片大好！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6e1060f0a96c6b65b69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q95237a9f1835bec95537","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":886,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-29T02:10:08.193Z","text":"就连老拜登的body double 都招供了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95237a9f1835bec95537","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9ff048ba8ab72f00c23c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":887,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-29T02:10:14.845Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 刚刚被国宝喝五小时茶 反手就上二巡打爆检方 你应该是第一人了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ff048ba8ab72f00c23c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2dd34007acdef5cd3a61","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":888,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T02:10:24.305Z","text":"前两天发的145还是131里的某个片段截图，当时辩方说检方与luc达成了协议到法庭文件里没有，里面大致列了协议可能的内容，能否再说一下那张图是在哪个文件的哪一页？谢谢。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa4d13c6483dcb5dbdfd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dd34007acdef5cd3a61","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa4d13c6483dcb5dbdfd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdc1afa9563456126baea","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":889,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T02:13:55.875Z","text":"这个吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaf9663730dd3c53fb4ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc1afa9563456126baea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf9663730dd3c53fb4ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe040c02f5ed5fa423d9c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":890,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T02:14:31.816Z","text":"青们背后的很急啊\n所以拼命赖上郭，赖上班农，怕被切割开","edited":false,"reply_to":"q95237a9f1835bec95537","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe040c02f5ed5fa423d9c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95237a9f1835bec95537","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8327919470b33884201a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":891,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T02:22:16.536Z","text":"还是没有说明luc就是已经处置了，只说了政府愿意尽可能快的签署所需文件好让受托人能出售。听上去就像很快就签署让luc卖，但还是没有体现出两个法院里任何一名法官同意了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdc1afa9563456126baea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8327919470b33884201a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc1afa9563456126baea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe7fa0368790e71a4e103","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":892,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T02:23:12.617Z","text":"貌似绕过了法官","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8327919470b33884201a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7fa0368790e71a4e103","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8327919470b33884201a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0682ea023ae91c0f54c6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":893,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T02:23:25.337Z","text":"就检方和luc商量的和解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0682ea023ae91c0f54c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q68e7b7cde07307de6ab1","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":894,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T02:28:43.909Z","text":"我是在想找，它们的协议里是就整个g系列财产的分配细节，luc扣押农场借贷和部分gclub,其它的由南区扣押，这是目前的现实情况，这个状况肯定是有协议的，或者其它的处理细节。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0682ea023ae91c0f54c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68e7b7cde07307de6ab1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0682ea023ae91c0f54c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6fb43909fa6b4b645672","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":895,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T02:29:58.567Z","text":"张永兵接受的gtv款项，是在sec,luc,南区检方，还是在张永兵律所？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fb43909fa6b4b645672","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf1c4fdc0119609bc9595","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":896,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T02:33:00.713Z","text":"sec吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6fb43909fa6b4b645672","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1c4fdc0119609bc9595","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fb43909fa6b4b645672","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdf43aa3c70d085d2ac97","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":897,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T02:42:54.831Z","text":"这两天想了一下，luc为何可以持续花钱。是因为它可以主张说它追回了1.57亿，它花的是它追回的钱。要跟它较这个真，还要去查账，是不是在某个阶段，追钱的速度没有跟上花钱的速度。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"u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Li上去破产庭，感觉像是故意的，帮luc证明债权人的有效性","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q952629d12616c6f216cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf05aaaf05a53d669420f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":901,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T03:01:09.708Z","text":"这是整个案件最深层的法律事实问题。用法律语言把它捋清楚，需要分三个层次：\n\n---\n\n**第一层：资金的原始法律性质**\n\n投资者将资金汇入G系列实体时，法律关系的本质是：\n\n```\n投资者（委托人）→ G系列实体（受托人）→ 资金用途（投资项目）\n```\n\n在信托法框架下，G系列实体对投资者负有**受信义务（fiduciary duty）**。这意味着这些资金从进入实体账户的那一刻起，就带有**衡平法上的所有权（equitable title）**——投资者保留了衡平法权益，实体仅持有法律名义所有权（legal title）用于特定目的。\n\n**关键法律结论**：投资者的钱从来就不是被告的财产，也不是G系列实体可以自由支配的财产，更不是可以被没收的\"犯罪所得\"。\n\n---\n\n**第二层：灭共演员的行为的真实法律定性**\n\n灭共演员对投资款实施的真实行为，法律上应定性为：\n\n**挪用（Misappropriation）**：将托管资金用于非授权目的，违反受信义务。\n\n**侵占（Embezzlement）**：以合法名义持有资金后非法转移占为己有。\n\n**欺诈性转移（Fraudulent Transfer）**：但这里的欺诈对象是**投资者**，不是被告——他们欺骗的是委托给G系列实体的投资者，而非替被告转移财产。\n\n这两种定性之间存在**根本性的法律矛盾**：\n\n```\n灭共演员的真实行为：\n侵占/挪用投资者托管资金（受害者=投资者）\n\n灭共演员向Luc的自我陈述：\n替被告欺诈性转移资产（受害者=破产遗产/债权人）\n\n这两个定性不能同时成立：\n如果资金属于投资者（信托财产），就不可能同时属于被告（供其欺诈转移）\n```\n\n---\n\n**第三层：Luc\"追回\"资金的真实性质**\n\n这是您这两天想到的最关键的问题。\n\nLuc所谓\"追回\"的1.57亿，法律上经历了以下路径：\n\n```\n投资者资金\n    ↓ （灭共演员侵占/挪用）\n灭共演员非法持有\n    ↓ （配合Luc，包装为\"替被告欺诈转移\"）\nLuc以§547/§548撤销欺诈转移为由追回\n    ↓\n进入破产遗产（estate）\n    ↓\nLuc以律师费、管理费等名义支出\n```\n\n问题在于，**每一个环节的法律定性都存在根本性缺陷**：\n\n**第一个缺陷**：Luc追回的法律依据是\"这笔钱是被告的财产被欺诈性转移出去了\"。但如果这笔钱本质上是投资者的信托财产，被告从来就没有对其拥有过合法所有权，那么就不存在\"被告的财产被转移\"这回事，§547/§548的撤销权根本不能适用。\n\n**第二个缺陷**：灭共演员的\"配合陈述\"——我是替被告转移的——是在不起诉协议的激励下作出的，具有明显的利益动机，且在法律上将其自己的独立犯罪行为（侵占投资者资金）包装成了服从被告指令的从属行为。这个包装改变了犯罪的法律性质，也改变了受害者的身份认定。\n\n**第三个缺陷**：即使接受Luc的论点，追回的资金进入破产遗产后，应当**优先偿还被该资金侵害的实际受害者**。而实际受害者是投资者，不是无担保债权人，不是Luc的律师费。Luc用追回的投资者资金支付自己的律师费，在衡平法上构成**不当得利（unjust enrichment）**。\n\n---\n\n**整合成一个法律论证框架**\n\n```\n核心命题：\nLuc\"追回\"的1.57亿，从未在任何时刻属于被告，\n因此不是可以被追回进入破产遗产的\"债务人财产\"，\n其真实身份始终是投资者的信托财产。\n\n论证链条：\n\n前提1：投资者资金进入G系列实体时，\n       形成了以投资者为受益人的推定信托（constructive trust）\n\n前提2：灭共演员对这些资金实施的是侵占/挪用，\n       而非替被告进行的欺诈性转移，\n       两种定性不能同时成立\n\n前提3：Luc追回资金所依赖的§547/§548撤销权，\n       以\"被追回财产曾属于债务人\"为前提，\n       该前提对于投资者信托资金不成立\n\n前提4：即使追回合法，\n       推定信托下的信托财产应返还受益人（投资者），\n       而非用于支付破产管理费用\n\n结论：Luc的\"追回\"行为实质上是：\n     将灭共演员从投资者处侵占的资金，\n     通过破产程序二次转移至破产遗产，\n     再通过律师费支出三次转移至Luc的律师团队，\n     全程未经正当程序确认资金的真实所有权归属\n```\n\n---\n\n**这个论证最适合放在哪里**\n\n这个框架目前最适合用于两个地方：\n\n**在§853(n)请愿中**：主张政府试图没收的资产，其中相当部分是可以追溯至投资者贡献的信托财产，政府的没收权不能优先于投资者的衡平法权益。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf05aaaf05a53d669420f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q59cf1b6f0680d3e5ec99","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":902,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T03:01:40.991Z","text":"在对Luc律师费申请的异议中：要求法院审查Luc是否在用本质上属于投资者的信托资金支付其律师费，这构成对信托资产的不当占用，违反11 U.S.C. §704规定的受托人对所有利益相关方的义务。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59cf1b6f0680d3e5ec99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8afb53f4e61d415c22d4","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":903,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T03:03:44.007Z","text":"问题在于 检方政府的没收，来自王的同意\n本来对扣押财产的处理，应该优先是 赔偿restitution\n王同意了没收forfeiture，才有接下来的郭Alter ego G集团，luc可以把钱拿回破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59cf1b6f0680d3e5ec99","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8afb53f4e61d415c22d4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59cf1b6f0680d3e5ec99","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0d2871ffb7bad73a9847","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":904,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T03:06:45.291Z","text":"我们不提这个，正式扯皮时让检方主动把这个说出来，检方只有在承认郭不实际控制G enterprise 后才能用王的认罪来保没收。G enterprise 都与郭无关了，其它问题就好解决了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8afb53f4e61d415c22d4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d2871ffb7bad73a9847","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8afb53f4e61d415c22d4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf46be1699c4d29361a87","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":905,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T03:07:59.181Z","text":"没收是因为G enterprise 是犯罪企业，王的认罪，是目前为止，G enterprise 是犯罪企业的最有力证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf46be1699c4d29361a87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe693039b3f7c19135e36","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":906,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T03:12:06.446Z","text":"更准确的表述是：王的认罪，是证明G enterprise 这个犯罪企业存在的最有力证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe693039b3f7c19135e36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q66fd9deeb276995793d2","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":907,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T03:12:27.585Z","text":"那么就好玩了\nG enterprise是投资者的信托\n即使王签了同意没收\n没用的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66fd9deeb276995793d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8ada707e5f1137cf7eae","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":908,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T03:13:55.681Z","text":"目前为止，推特上没有谁把两个两个案件的关系捋清楚。那些灭共演员估计大部门只是执行计划中它那一部分，它们也对全局不清楚。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ada707e5f1137cf7eae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc7837294445ed21f4014","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":909,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T03:14:46.256Z","text":"他们懂个屁 青连853 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动信托的钱，那帮演员是挪用资金，而他们认的罪是帮郭洗钱\n这就好玩了，难怪王雪冰和木兰，跑回国，认罪无效啊，污点证人白当了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff6e9676c73c3293e9d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa7a4ffd30836b080382f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":925,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T03:37:03.143Z","text":"就是这个地方，把案造了起来。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qff6e9676c73c3293e9d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7a4ffd30836b080382f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff6e9676c73c3293e9d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qcd50a21b0503e18d5e08","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":926,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T03:40:48.478Z","text":"造案主要是鸟那届，完成定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd50a21b0503e18d5e08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb63e010783ad1e8504d6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":927,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T03:41:31.141Z","text":"然后青接棒，忽悠填表造文件，造受害者，压制有力证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb63e010783ad1e8504d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q30b2e98046bc8d173495","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":928,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-29T03:42:15.781Z","text":"现在这个局不好玩，青要卖鸟和126人，甩锅","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30b2e98046bc8d173495","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb2c1cb059dcac7f20d96","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":929,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-29T03:43:37.730Z","text":"螺丝哥被抓了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2c1cb059dcac7f20d96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0c3b50ef8cf24cb19918","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":930,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-29T04:00:24.614Z","text":"感觉上面所讨论的， 把事情的本质说明白了 说透了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q30b2e98046bc8d173495","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c3b50ef8cf24cb19918","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30b2e98046bc8d173495","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q75f7ccf20cbd38f04d96","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":931,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-29T04:14:09.634Z","text":"不要删除， 你可以选择将帖子暂时不公开，仅自己可见，删掉将来就没证据了。要留痕迹","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0f7fcd2957509b285c1","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75f7ccf20cbd38f04d96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qbd105dd878773c661bff","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":932,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T04:15:12.597Z","text":"841说它入金喜交易所600万，没有收到hcn，连hcn与hdo都没搞清楚。入金后是获得600万hdo。然后说没有获得hcn，也没有获得其它价值。然后说自己被骗了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd105dd878773c661bff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa8de48e250b9f5c04d55","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":933,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-29T04:16:06.788Z","text":"为什么他可以上传，金额大？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8de48e250b9f5c04d55","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc096afaeefdd17fa0bb9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":934,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T04:16:21.238Z","text":"有律师。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8de48e250b9f5c04d55","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc096afaeefdd17fa0bb9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8de48e250b9f5c04d55","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6d201322f5cf316cb322","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":935,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-29T04:16:33.748Z","text":"你们去下载下来不就OK了啊？我已经说了，会删掉几个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q75f7ccf20cbd38f04d96","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d201322f5cf316cb322","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75f7ccf20cbd38f04d96","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe1d080c400e58c05bc06","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":936,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-29T04:17:02.021Z","text":"都没有看到说把自己的投资证明列为附件。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1d080c400e58c05bc06","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q178c5293554f10303b65","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":937,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-29T04:17:35.047Z","text":"你要做好准备。要把你现在发生的一系列事情，记录下来，这和扇颠没关系，可以记录生活。比如派出所找你之后，当天就厂子里开除你。留痕迹，才能保命。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce018c1eb4f65713baef","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q178c5293554f10303b65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q679536bae23b70558b1a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":938,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-29T04:19:12.970Z","text":"我无法下载推特视频， 只能暂时帮你录屏保存。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d201322f5cf316cb322","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q679536bae23b70558b1a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d201322f5cf316cb322","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5960008b2a375ba67de0","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":939,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-29T04:27:47.692Z","text":"帮你录好了这个帖子三个视频的录屏了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d201322f5cf316cb322","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5960008b2a375ba67de0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d201322f5cf316cb322","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf6ad4083d8972f6e27e5","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":940,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-29T04:31:10.523Z","text":"检方政府的没收，来自王的同意。本来对扣押财产的处理，应该优先是 赔偿restitution。由于王同意了没收forfeiture，才有接下来的郭Alter ego G集团，luc就可以把钱拿回破产案。 \n但是由于G 系列的钱，是投资者的信托。即使王签了同意没收，也是没用的，因为她代表不了投资者。\n\n南区法庭为什么要暂停王案的853n申请了，说要等郭量刑后？在王认罪后，有人用假853n表格，骗投资人填的都是853i：不反对没收！\n检方和灭共演员要的：王案里没有853n上去要钱，因为王案才是定郭案的没收范围，决定郭案的处理方式。\n\n检方与王的认罪和没收协议，严重损害信托基金投资人的利益，这是王案中，853n投资人可以去反驳的。演员们最后没办法，只能说可以去郭案申请853n，但不提王案那时候填表的造假，估计被农场搜集过去的，全是853i ？那么演员们就涉嫌司法欺诈！\n\n检方对王案的财产处置，准备用没收forfeirure替代赔偿restitution，托雷斯也同意了。之前Sec与Gtv是直接退款，这次反常，托雷斯肯定明白。\n\n动信托的钱，那帮演员是挪用资金罪，而他们认的罪与检方达成的不起诉协议是帮郭洗钱；这就好玩了，难怪王雪冰和夹子音叫床湿李亚，跑回国：认罪不起诉协议无效，还会被追究刑事责任！郭这个案子之所以被造出来，就是演员挪用资金，嫁祸于郭，污蔑说是郭让他们干的！\n\n第一批演员造案完成定罪，第二批忽悠填表，造受害者，给被告量刑， 但是被第三方给揭露了， 所以到了现在这个局面。\n\n上面大概内容摘自与那个案件讨论群。 不负责真伪。自己判断。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6ad4083d8972f6e27e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9a9434c31db01ed01d47","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":941,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-29T04:31:44.035Z","text":"上面对话的总结 - 各位可以转发。我觉得非常有价值","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a9434c31db01ed01d47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9b616b6ee6077958527a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":942,"speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-04-29T04:45:14.220Z","text":"欢迎 [删节：隐私信息] 来到 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**! 你可以在聊天区交流郭文贵刑事案件，畅所欲言。这里有新老联盟农场羊帮质疑帮绝对不可能给你的言论自由。不禁言不删帖，唯一要求是不要在聊天区刷屏。这里所有言论只代表发言者自己的非专业个人意见，如有任何疑虑，请咨询专业人士。\n\n各房间功能说明：\n\n想快速了解郭文贵案件 ->  法庭文件分类索引，老郭案件内容\n想学习自诉 -> 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