{"id":"batch-000110","number":110,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-05-10T15:36:35.896Z","date_end":"2026-05-14T04:13:29.694Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 110 (May 10, 2026 – May 14, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From May 10, 2026 to May 14, 2026, the batch debated a cross-case strategy around Mr. Guo, with participants repeatedly returning to second-review control, stays, and mandamus timing. The main disagreements involved whether criminal findings can be repurposed in bankruptcy through RICO and alter ego, whether CVRA standing can include broader creditor groups, and whether evidence tied to the 848 filing and disclosure obligations is reliable. Members argued over trust, asset auctioning, and political motives while warning that many conclusions remained speculative and unverified. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Procedural maneuvering is central: second review, stay, and mandamus pathways and leadership","description":"Participants argue that control of momentum now sits in procedural sequencing, with stay orders and mandamus-related moves framing who can move next in the case, while other voices contend the same filings are more strategic posturing than guaranteed relief; timing disputes dominate. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q931ca874e70a0bee098a","q6a2b6b86c61aa96d96d4","qc03345ab74d68ed91ee8"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q931ca874e70a0bee098a","summary_en":"A participant said a stay order had issued and described the pre-sentencing process as effectively closed, signaling a major procedural shift, though it remains an asserted view only. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6a2b6b86c61aa96d96d4","summary_en":"A participant argued that access to second review had become more difficult and implied prior filing effort may have been wasted, indicating frustration with process barriers. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc03345ab74d68ed91ee8","summary_en":"A participant claimed that any government opposition to motions would likely be bundled and denied because sentencing had already been continued, so immediate procedural relief may have little effect. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Sentencing and closure-cycle are heavily speculative: under 10 years, around three years, and relitigation expectations","description":"Members contend that sentencing remains uncertain and heavily debated, with some arguing for a modest post-release sentence and others disputing whether any cancellation is realistic before a broader challenge by the second review. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf17d7c1550e3ac0ebabe","q15980d98a57505699c87","qc54a761d61aea5d32959"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf17d7c1550e3ac0ebabe","summary_en":"One participant speculated cancellation is unlikely unless the case is dropped, while suggesting a possible sentence under ten years and possibly around three years. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q15980d98a57505699c87","summary_en":"A member said a sentencing cancellation could happen but remained uncertain, emphasizing unpredictability rather than certainty. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc54a761d61aea5d32959","summary_en":"A participant portrayed the second review as applying pressure, suggesting the prosecution remains exposed while review stands nearby. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Criminal and bankruptcy linkage is disputed: applicability of RICO and alter ego","description":"Participants argue that extending criminal theories into bankruptcy is central to strategic impact, while others contend the legal bridge is uncertain and fact-dependent, especially where seizure of older property is alleged. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qacb40dd13af6c1f5fcf1","qd237bc7ae11fcebf04cb","q95a01575d59ca3e2061e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qacb40dd13af6c1f5fcf1","summary_en":"A participant questioned why a bankruptcy case should connect to the criminal case and argued a 2015 property acquisition could indicate an alter-ego-style seizure theory rather than only later proceeds. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd237bc7ae11fcebf04cb","summary_en":"Another participant explained a viewed pathway: use criminal outcomes first, then loop back to bankruptcy and treat the company as a surrogate for Mr. Guo through alter ego doctrine. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q95a01575d59ca3e2061e","summary_en":"A member compared the approach to the Mahwah pattern and said FBI evidence was reportedly used to characterize property as family-occupied housing. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"CVRA and victim standing disagreement: creditor status and qualification conversion","description":"Members contend that CVRA eligibility is contested, with one side pointing to named representation channels and others arguing many listed parties cannot be treated as direct criminal victims; the dispute centers on who is properly within victim status. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0f09cb9e70b88d0e504b","qe7891660d3779848bade","q02ad5525957d9dec26fd"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0f09cb9e70b88d0e504b","summary_en":"A participant stated that the trial’s thousands of victims were represented by Gail under CRVA, framing the issue as formally categorized victim status. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qe7891660d3779848bade","summary_en":"Another participant argued those people could not directly count as victims in the criminal proceeding. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q02ad5525957d9dec26fd","summary_en":"A third member claimed the government allegedly used a fake victim registry tied to Qing, indicating concern about fabricated victim identity records. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence disclosure dispute: 848 materials, unfiled documents, and credibility","description":"Participants argue over whether newly surfaced 848 materials and related filings materially strengthen claims, while others dispute the reliability and scope of the allegations, especially claims of prosecutorial misconduct. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qc53f61855d6f725e3537","q43695d057ee27cf8c049","q9f43a8fa9c8372de91b7"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qc53f61855d6f725e3537","summary_en":"A participant characterized the 848 filing as highly impactful, suggesting it changed perceived leverage. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q43695d057ee27cf8c049","summary_en":"Another participant reacted that the same filing was even stronger because alleged Luc-related fraud points were said to appear in it. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9f43a8fa9c8372de91b7","summary_en":"A later participant asserted that judicial-fraud concerns seemed to span multiple aspects of the prosecution. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Asset and property disposition conflict: 18th-floor auction, bid levels, and ownership reach","description":"Members contend that auction strategy and ownership targeting remain contested, with disagreement over the feasibility of sale terms, bidder behavior, and how broadly forfeiture can be extended beyond assets in Mr. Guo’s direct name. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qb39038ec4a49f215cf46","q640cebacfabe3f7e427d","q4ca93580683b7ea8eef1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qb39038ec4a49f215cf46","summary_en":"A participant said no one had been willing to buy the 18th-floor asset so far. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q640cebacfabe3f7e427d","summary_en":"Another participant shared that a buyer had offered around 8 million, indicating active price discussion despite low participation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4ca93580683b7ea8eef1","summary_en":"A third participant said forfeiture was recognized as covering the whole G series and that bankruptcy could pursue assets outside Mr. Guo’s personal holdings via alter ego arguments. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Key-person authenticity and relationship chain is split: genuine or fake Guo, Aze, Qing, and 'Pei Jiang'","description":"Participants argue that trust and identity are core fault lines, with some urging caution about authenticity and hidden motives, while others still support maintaining coordinated action despite uncertainty. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qd2e876f03bc8dfc7dc95","q5c095cd844e7475a6993","q1ff40f1bb8313cc0dc29"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd2e876f03bc8dfc7dc95","summary_en":"A participant said action is needed but could damage trust, and argued Mr. Guo had asked supporters to maintain sufficient trust. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5c095cd844e7475a6993","summary_en":"Another participant disputed that certain identity claims about Aze and the authenticity of Guo should be trusted, arguing for skepticism. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1ff40f1bb8313cc0dc29","summary_en":"A participant claimed the core person had distorted underlying motives, reinforcing suspicion about identity and intent. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Alliance and mobilization credibility are mutually contested: organizers, aliases, and messaging discipline","description":"Members argue that messaging is selectively coordinated, with some claiming alliances only promote favorable points, while others contend narrative discipline and publication timing indicate internal control over what participants can publicly post. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf9975482e056cd76aeb1","q00fc5a895eb30d42bd35","qfb9b1da92b2f3245b203"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf9975482e056cd76aeb1","summary_en":"A participant said an alliance would publicize its Luc-related narrative but not its own alleged fabrication points. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q00fc5a895eb30d42bd35","summary_en":"Another participant noted that after 848’s appearance no one under a specific identity posted, suggesting coordinated messaging alignment remained ongoing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfb9b1da92b2f3245b203","summary_en":"A further participant referenced possible stakeholder counts and prior public criticism, pointing to selective grievance emphasis in group messaging. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Political interpretation and practical fact overlap: money-seeking, political dealmaking, or liquidation speculation","description":"Participants contend that legal developments may be read as political choreography, while others disagree on whether this reflects tactical timing, with the central dispute focused on whether judicial outcomes are being traded through political channels. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q763a2705d5b5d90c9091","q7cbff36a22e2def26efc","q1d4b8212869ef8a73aaf"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q763a2705d5b5d90c9091","summary_en":"A participant observed that the actors seemed to be waiting for a high-level political meeting, implying strategic timing cues. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7cbff36a22e2def26efc","summary_en":"Another participant guessed that some proposal or motion would likely be filed. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1d4b8212869ef8a73aaf","summary_en":"A third participant stated the impression that legal issues were being addressed through political resolution rather than pure legal procedure. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Action strategy is divided: continue pressing or hold, with risks of miscalculation and fallout","description":"Participants argue over whether to continue external action or preserve patience, with some favoring restraint to avoid harming trust and others insisting continued action is still appropriate under current uncertainty. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qd2e876f03bc8dfc7dc95","q02a34d9ae6e7a364fbfd","q59649cc5f17987fd2831"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd2e876f03bc8dfc7dc95","summary_en":"One participant argued for prudence, saying action might weaken required trust and warning against premature moves. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q02a34d9ae6e7a364fbfd","summary_en":"Another participant countered by saying they would still act when holding that same trust-preserving perspective. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q59649cc5f17987fd2831","summary_en":"A participant admitted they were only beginning to explore and had only partial understanding, highlighting uncertainty in strategy formation. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Scheduling and sequencing dispute: repeated filings and short-term stay plans","description":"Participants argue that motion cadence is being used as pressure, with disagreement about whether the high volume and close timing indicate urgency, instability, or tactical acceleration before deadlines; all agree timing is central. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q232504172c01e57d2dc1","q551f3fb4c5e6b1566b5a","q7fe6b405db4340f63b5f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q232504172c01e57d2dc1","summary_en":"A participant claimed that person 848 filed eighteen motions between April 17 and May 7, 2026. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q551f3fb4c5e6b1566b5a","summary_en":"Another participant described the filer as acting in panic, reflecting perceived internal pressure. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7fe6b405db4340f63b5f","summary_en":"A final participant noted the sequence unfolded in under two weeks, underscoring a compressed filing window. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论在法律技术与叙事判断之间反复摇摆，焦点主要是二巡阶段程序权力结构、stay与mandamus路径、以及强制令等是否构成实质突破。大量成员分歧集中在CVRA受害者资格、债权人名单口径、资产处置和证据披露是否充分，尤其针对848文件、未上报材料与邮件/USB证据可信度。除程序争议外，群内还出现关键人物身份真伪、联盟与外部舆论口径可信度、政治化博弈和资金动机的高置信猜测，且普遍以“可能/推测”表达，群体共识并未形成。","guide":[{"title":"程序博弈为核心：二巡、stay 与 mandamus 的路径和主导权","message_ids":["q931ca874e70a0bee098a","q6a2b6b86c61aa96d96d4","qc03345ab74d68ed91ee8"]},{"title":"量刑与结案周期高度猜测：10年以下、三年以及再翻案预期","message_ids":["qf17d7c1550e3ac0ebabe","q15980d98a57505699c87","qc54a761d61aea5d32959"]},{"title":"刑事案与破产案衔接存在争议：RICO、alter 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可能不对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f51319edd380df1001e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q5319745c4bef1029e05c","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":603,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:21:00.714Z","text":"733 是板上钉钉的 全是record 但他那个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5319745c4bef1029e05c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q9431e5a7e1879fc05f9d","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":604,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-13T06:21:01.187Z","text":"从第六份强制令之后，我就没仔细看过其他的了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9431e5a7e1879fc05f9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q170f0774f29d6c78ad93","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":605,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:21:03.499Z","text":"我不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q170f0774f29d6c78ad93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q6f46933b48d93215054b","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":606,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:21:27.416Z","text":"他说的郭美那个东西","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f46933b48d93215054b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q7fa401a9c0998fda4906","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":607,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:21:34.620Z","text":"我不是很清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fa401a9c0998fda4906","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"qd10c76cf31bf81a6509a","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":608,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:21:38.776Z","text":"但说的青藤是对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd10c76cf31bf81a6509a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q75e9e12d2c7575a148f8","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":609,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:22:01.784Z","text":"青藤阿哲 都是和检方司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75e9e12d2c7575a148f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q99e8c83e91ff2eeafcce","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":610,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-13T06:25:40.333Z","text":"是有点反常，按以前的操行，应该是故意无视","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed3d0e49cbdfa735ca83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99e8c83e91ff2eeafcce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed3d0e49cbdfa735ca83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"qac8d68fc61b6ae4dec94","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":611,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-13T06:26:04.650Z","text":"从第七份开始，联盟就开始宣传了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99e8c83e91ff2eeafcce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac8d68fc61b6ae4dec94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99e8c83e91ff2eeafcce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q9a2e51eca9fb39011230","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":612,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:26:17.401Z","text":"［用户 him***］  你说他没有和盖尔解约 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This syndicate pre-filled ”victim” remission forms and coerced\n     thousands of investors internationally to mail these fabricated claims directly\n     to Assistant United States Attorney (AUSA) Ryan Finkel. 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victim出处，不是luc的债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2051ef8ff4ef4309c804","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd58d61ad7cb38bf22133","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2051ef8ff4ef4309c804","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q019daa4620b56c83a062","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":679,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-13T06:41:24.275Z","text":"一看名字，是[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q019daa4620b56c83a062","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q51c73586826ddb7daba6","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":680,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-13T06:42:23.955Z","text":"我是说那段英文的意思","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f5e7f1cfee0b563859c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51c73586826ddb7daba6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f5e7f1cfee0b563859c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"qcba7a334897c3e953f0e","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":681,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:42:35.085Z","text":"他的意思就是青藤变成了盖尔","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd58d61ad7cb38bf22133","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcba7a334897c3e953f0e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd58d61ad7cb38bf22133","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"qfbf180fed4b0c130276b","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":682,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:42:47.285Z","text":"好像盖尔几千人是青藤搞的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbf180fed4b0c130276b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q46093ae5ddb304a460cd","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":683,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-13T06:42:47.861Z","text":"陪审团不知道。除非辩方律师故意让陪审团知道。程序上不允许陪审团知道盖尔的事情。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd58d61ad7cb38bf22133","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46093ae5ddb304a460cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd58d61ad7cb38bf22133","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q254bbfae6a04f0054e3b","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":684,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-13T06:43:20.509Z","text":"是的 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不远了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc3ba04492dfe1dabd071","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q140e2fd49363c8cd29cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3ba04492dfe1dabd071","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q90a8630e137c4135fdbc","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":696,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-13T06:45:33.968Z","text":"不是，他说青藤制造受害者的方式，是通过欺骗手段让投资者寄索赔表格","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfbf180fed4b0c130276b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90a8630e137c4135fdbc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbf180fed4b0c130276b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q9b1c54e70f2501fac01e","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":697,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-13T06:45:54.322Z","text":"假表","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90a8630e137c4135fdbc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b1c54e70f2501fac01e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90a8630e137c4135fdbc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q054f522cf75541ff4d44","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":698,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:45:58.428Z","text":"entirely 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enterprise 就是受害者。如果要扣细节，检方可以说起诉时，向大陪审团合理的主张了gtv投资者和债权人是受害者。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd3f5ec0fe8a41864548","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc309ac2ae55b8378c9f7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd3f5ec0fe8a41864548","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q67b2e46b027456285d76","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":706,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:47:14.140Z","text":"代表","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67b2e46b027456285d76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q723c763a085bcc4b823c","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":707,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-13T06:48:14.787Z","text":"你只能说是可能，猜测，假设，没有证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc309ac2ae55b8378c9f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q723c763a085bcc4b823c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc309ac2ae55b8378c9f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"q37acbe3f1726762483f8","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":708,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-13T06:48:30.096Z","text":"record没有 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him***］  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是如何定义盖儿的6千人的？ \n\n检方呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c6ce529efb53e9f26cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"qe965e8d662902b0e8720","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":798,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-13T12:49:57.476Z","text":"检方 potential","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2c6ce529efb53e9f26cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe965e8d662902b0e8720","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c6ce529efb53e9f26cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"qcef5b660411b66adf273","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":799,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-13T12:52:17.139Z","text":"822说他们不是受害者, 833说就算他们主观上不承认，他们客观上也是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2c6ce529efb53e9f26cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcef5b660411b66adf273","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c6ce529efb53e9f26cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"},{"id":"qadb77fd87e707bb877e9","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":800,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-05-13T12:52:32.862Z","text":"所以这6千人：\n检方—potential受害人\n辩方—-非受害人\n盖儿—非受害人/又受害人\n6500注册人—非受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadb77fd87e707bb877e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000109","next_batch_id":"batch-000111"}