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么大排场肯定是包子同意的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb6549f8981ebd205b20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q26ba45ee5f940ba309fc","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":32,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T05:54:52.101Z","text":"是不是直播说过温家宝很懂怎么指挥包子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26ba45ee5f940ba309fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qc8c03eb0b17fecf60e18","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":33,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T05:55:06.325Z","text":"如果是这样，包子就不敢不同意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8c03eb0b17fecf60e18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qb593ba9512ce8d92a305","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":34,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T05:55:31.831Z","text":"之前新闻联播也播了，成立了一个中央议事协调机构","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb593ba9512ce8d92a305","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q4d39b430d6b5b4a81209","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":35,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T05:55:55.070Z","text":"后来悄无声息了，普遍认为是中顾委2.0","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d39b430d6b5b4a81209","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qee42e28a01ceb1e76ec5","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":36,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T05:55:58.145Z","text":"温帮包子做掉了薄，私下一定有交易","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee42e28a01ceb1e76ec5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q20031f8d3f1278117819","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":37,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T05:57:10.463Z","text":"张又侠那个算是包子反杀成功一次，而且大包王朝分析一直认为张又侠跟习源头上是一个派系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20031f8d3f1278117819","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qaaba97de6fbc0d5c8fb6","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":38,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T05:57:31.834Z","text":"我觉得温可能也是知道包子的弱点，关键时刻拿得住他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaaba97de6fbc0d5c8fb6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q5690f009edf8398b8aed","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":39,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T05:57:59.842Z","text":"温今年出来过一次，据说是总参谋部给他安保","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5690f009edf8398b8aed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q1ed3bcd9e98c3010f255","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":40,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T05:58:07.894Z","text":"说明军队还是支持温的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ed3bcd9e98c3010f255","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qef5372d4b9f59ee33e82","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":41,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T05:58:35.444Z","text":"温是更高层级的存在，中共动不了他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef5372d4b9f59ee33e82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q587fd9d728a29841f588","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":42,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T05:59:46.584Z","text":"温是🫶 👁️ 吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q587fd9d728a29841f588","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q1e04bfb94655f0e45fa9","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":43,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T05:59:54.284Z","text":"我记得提过一次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e04bfb94655f0e45fa9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q21b83e6ea35e2accf5c5","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":44,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T05:59:57.034Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21b83e6ea35e2accf5c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qc5d8076f34300b2ab1b5","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":45,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T06:01:09.884Z","text":"老胡和郭关系明显很铁，某种程度上小胡就是郭的人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5d8076f34300b2ab1b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qb11b3f14b688c1bf1a80","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":46,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T06:01:57.509Z","text":"看后边咋发展吧，中国人吃够了苦了，也该享享福了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb11b3f14b688c1bf1a80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q7cd4bff1b918f75e60d4","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":47,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T06:02:28.573Z","text":"党媒报道川普说疫苗的事了\nhttps://view.inews.qq.com/w/20260511V04SMK00?strategy=feature&rate=2&rg=101&refer=nwx&pushid=2026051402&bkt=4000&openid=o04IBADUBZRRa8CZvTOLHdcJeqUU&tbkt=F&ft=0&cur_pos=1&uflag=2&it=2&ext=%7B%22pl%22%3A17274263%7D&lrg=1&tab_expid=112464514%2C112452665%2C112466683%2C112450552%2C112463738&allcmsids=20260513V074LL00_20260511V04SMK00_20260512A0A2XH00_20260513V090H400_20260512A06WB500&segmentNum=4920&groupid=1778737329&msgid=1&rpcopenid=o04IBAG_5LrSEluTcasMHAeaS2TI&key=&version=18002b2f&devicetype=iOS15.5&wuid=oDdoCt6MpXOhbqKJPDd9JaA6-CrM&originPath=w","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cd4bff1b918f75e60d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q17d7930441b64e483d18","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":48,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T06:03:14.038Z","text":"我现在真心觉得美国是衰落了，生活各方面都能觉出来。汽车市场基本是贸易保护了，新车也就丰田车能买","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17d7930441b64e483d18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q4ea5378c7d3eb3ac206b","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":49,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T06:03:41.624Z","text":"加上通胀，日子越来越难了，人心也不像以前了。没有maga就真的衰落下去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ea5378c7d3eb3ac206b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qf38215cac2b588f1d509","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":50,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T06:03:57.797Z","text":"老郭嘴里的那些大佬们，跟他到底关系如何，咱们不知道。单从他这个案子来看，貌似没有他说的那么铁","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5d8076f34300b2ab1b5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf38215cac2b588f1d509","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5d8076f34300b2ab1b5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qae2b10834a1602cd228b","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":51,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T06:06:12.359Z","text":"这个是观察者网的号做流量的，国内其实对小孩疫苗没那么严格，毕竟本来西医就只是一种医学在国内","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7cd4bff1b918f75e60d4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae2b10834a1602cd228b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cd4bff1b918f75e60d4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q4620a659a702c8633a2f","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":52,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T06:06:31.327Z","text":"小红书上也好多家长讨论自己孩子打了疫苗身体变差了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4620a659a702c8633a2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":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follow the money; follow the N啥啥C，是不是有另外一层含义？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd88bbdb6fbf6fbdff634","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qe4636bb55b7bf7f6cdfe","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":80,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-05-14T11:17:41.048Z","text":"follow NFSC, 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都不批准，可能巡回法院觉得虽然是不可争辩的权利，申请人也没有其它办法，但认为强制地区法院docket 是不合适的。申请者要把批准强制docket 论证得是合适的才行。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e3d14253fc7e4fbfc87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q03a50159a4dceafb43ff","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":108,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T12:47:59.125Z","text":"现在回头看托雷斯主动延期，会不会就是给二巡找台阶，刚延期，就把瑞恩的驳回了，无缝衔接","edited":false,"reply_to":"q20b0b146257a2d61ac79","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03a50159a4dceafb43ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20b0b146257a2d61ac79","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q650300520554e7ef5d84","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":109,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-05-14T12:49:39.455Z","text":"最后一句同感，你不把范围收窄，要求放低，论述不充分，他们就是可以玩死你","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9e3d14253fc7e4fbfc87","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q650300520554e7ef5d84","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e3d14253fc7e4fbfc87","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qf723292d46dcba5713bb","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":110,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-14T12:49:55.583Z","text":"tony的那个应该不会完全驳回，可能会命令南区法院给到程序性处置。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf723292d46dcba5713bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qa7245c2e74fb5fd388ff","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":111,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T12:50:54.756Z","text":"Docket是宪法权力吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9e3d14253fc7e4fbfc87","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7245c2e74fb5fd388ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e3d14253fc7e4fbfc87","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q7f131ca8658acbf598ec","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":112,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-14T12:53:28.519Z","text":"是。但不是说宪法权利就一定会批准强制令。要证明那三个要素，最难的是，批准强制令是合适的，这个合不合适就panel 一念之间。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7245c2e74fb5fd388ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f131ca8658acbf598ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7245c2e74fb5fd388ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q9ccfc7a9e4a4d0ddecdd","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":113,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T12:54:20.648Z","text":"不给docket法官已经违宪了，还需要说什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ccfc7a9e4a4d0ddecdd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q1681512f275a44b53ffa","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":114,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T12:54:40.056Z","text":"应该是法官解释为什么不docket","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1681512f275a44b53ffa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q9e83aba50e984b89c77d","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":115,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-05-14T12:55:11.088Z","text":"所以，除了高手，参与者紧贴自身问题，提出合理但有颠覆性潜力的问题，找二巡docket，更实际","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e83aba50e984b89c77d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q40d39c2b7d10782d84a2","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":116,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T12:56:00.286Z","text":"二巡入档只是个威慑作用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40d39c2b7d10782d84a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qadebb7b7f429c959dfdd","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":117,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T12:56:11.211Z","text":"具体操作还是地方法院","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadebb7b7f429c959dfdd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q84d2a81374f3fa30e260","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":118,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-05-14T12:56:31.148Z","text":"例如，我投给木兰的钱到底在哪个政府查封账户啊？😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84d2a81374f3fa30e260","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qce12e1c81f872e3125b5","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":119,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T12:57:07.439Z","text":"现在托雷斯延期是让步还是跟二巡勾兑都难说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce12e1c81f872e3125b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q9f1b7085ed411b992e93","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":120,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-05-14T12:57:10.292Z","text":"用同一个强制令紧追不舍","edited":false,"reply_to":"qadebb7b7f429c959dfdd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f1b7085ed411b992e93","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadebb7b7f429c959dfdd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q6e54ce133dc29e319e81","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":121,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-14T12:57:14.081Z","text":"就算是地区法官错了，也不一定会批准强制令。不可争辩的权利只是三个要素之一，要三个要素全部满足才会批准。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ccfc7a9e4a4d0ddecdd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e54ce133dc29e319e81","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ccfc7a9e4a4d0ddecdd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q4db1a62cfcbda25122fb","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":122,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T12:57:51.060Z","text":"所以二巡也在装逼","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6e54ce133dc29e319e81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4db1a62cfcbda25122fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e54ce133dc29e319e81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qb97a01f6f861f2879e16","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":123,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T12:58:35.827Z","text":"但是二巡不批也不拒，阻断人们上高法的路","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb97a01f6f861f2879e16","reply_url":null,"reply_la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这一份高法价值不大","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf0ab8ef8b2abb274c4ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c5e4fb5743a35f815a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0ab8ef8b2abb274c4ab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q4978ebca91bbca98297a","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":140,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-14T16:41:27.458Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2054964898896158817?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4978ebca91bbca98297a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q3c170395433e2dafc9ee","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":141,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T17:05:16.947Z","text":"那瑞恩目前就没牌可打了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c5e4fb5743a35f815a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c170395433e2dafc9ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c5e4fb5743a35f815a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q2e19b0e025cba7fc1de3","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":142,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T17:05:34.093Z","text":"2726算结案了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e19b0e025cba7fc1de3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q793177fef7fcc62dbcb3","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":143,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-14T17:06:00.446Z","text":"结案了 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anthropic都部署Blackwell一年多了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e6ab37d68ecbca51369","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q67c66a9fcfd34e6def0c","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":180,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T19:53:42.194Z","text":"但是也在禁售名单上？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67c66a9fcfd34e6def0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q32a8007051338f669d9b","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":181,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T19:54:01.283Z","text":"现在一线厂的hopper系列都是做一些不重要的业务吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32a8007051338f669d9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q3f9029741e1016779b77","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":182,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T19:54:14.769Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f9029741e1016779b77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qbca33d36df8090ef8f12","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":183,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T19:54:42.161Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbca33d36df8090ef8f12","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qdaf3a60f5cbd8bab2b62","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":184,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T19:55:29.092Z","text":"最顶尖大模型没Blackwell很难的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaf3a60f5cbd8bab2b62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qf77250901b2e1c8d2b7e","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":185,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T19:56:54.217Z","text":"其实现在这些个能开箱即用的只有英伟达","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf77250901b2e1c8d2b7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q0f44529534a5c5954a49","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":186,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-05-14T20:01:01.817Z","text":"其他的软件都有bug，即便是算力能达到，好多软件都得自己下功夫弄。amd直接全开源了让别人自己弄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f44529534a5c5954a49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q0585391946361098036a","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":187,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-05-14T21:18:22.374Z","text":"这100个853如果用32.2 C 对和自己相关的、可能会查出问题的账户 要求政府开示有限证据的话 应该对找出 诈骗犯 有很大的推进作用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q79ebc0c2b0595966f718","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0585391946361098036a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q6c0e29017228a6f8e75b","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":188,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-05-14T21:32:09.684Z","text":"会有人做的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0585391946361098036a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c0e29017228a6f8e75b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0585391946361098036a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q2f86973613ecdd9f127a","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":189,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-14T21:34:01.739Z","text":"720里没有借贷","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfe49fd8aef888b99803f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f86973613ecdd9f127a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qccf4047f4471c33cbd62","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":190,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-05-14T21:50:18.226Z","text":"那不就是可以请政府开示一下借贷的钱在哪个账户啊？要不853咋写啊？追着追着说不定诈骗犯就现身了\n你看有些投数字银行的、律师写的853、都准确定位具体账户","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2f86973613ecdd9f127a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccf4047f4471c33cbd62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f86973613ecdd9f127a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q58ba6702ee6d6697c999","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":191,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-05-14T22:18:20.686Z","text":"王雪冰 张永兵 9指妖 叫床湿李亚 签不起诉协议 的信息 在哪个法庭文件里？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58ba6702ee6d6697c999","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q6a7299ec4b4c56698545","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":192,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-05-14T22:19:15.064Z","text":"也就是说， 这些所谓不起诉协议 是猜的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a7299ec4b4c56698545","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q3504c4e089e8544053ac","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":193,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-14T22:19:21.824Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a7299ec4b4c56698545","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3504c4e089e8544053ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a7299ec4b4c56698545","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"qaff41de3efc836e88e6e","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":194,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-05-14T22:19:26.329Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaff41de3efc836e88e6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q8bd97afe039d67f4034f","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":195,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-05-14T23:21:57.740Z","text":"不知道川普卖了啥？希望没有七哥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q150e5498525655686f5b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bd97afe039d67f4034f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q150e5498525655686f5b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q21f374e655d38ffb053c","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":196,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-14T23:22:20.302Z","text":"如果之前量刑了 可能还能卖","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8bd97afe039d67f4034f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21f374e655d38ffb053c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bd97afe039d67f4034f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q04b83af7fddc4bddbbf4","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":197,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-14T23:24:22.982Z","text":"现在量刑延期 卖不了了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04b83af7fddc4bddbbf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q4d06fb3496a2ab124cda","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":198,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-05-14T23:28:35.019Z","text":"没人提到美方给了哪些优惠待遇啊，都只有中方的，可能得在微信上能看到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d06fb3496a2ab124cda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q72f913d5e5409295bb0c","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":199,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-05-14T23:38:33.534Z","text":"以前香草山农场借贷还给我留言有利息，可惜那时蠢，没让他们立马付给我，我这个钱算借给谁了呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72f913d5e5409295bb0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"},{"id":"q2fb852bd5657da9a0b8d","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":200,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-05-14T23:39:05.157Z","text":"我保留当时的留言了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fb852bd5657da9a0b8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000110","next_batch_id":"batch-000112"}