{"id":"batch-000112","number":112,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-05-16T22:19:18.926Z","date_end":"2026-05-21T11:36:26.298Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 112 (May 16, 2026 – May 21, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussion revolved around post-sentencing procedure, with participants contesting whether motions survive sentencing and arguing about filing order for supplemental materials. They also disputed who can represent victims or third parties versus prosecutors, whether transferred funds are investments or fraud proceeds, and whether disclosure issues under CIPA plus Brady/Giglio and RICO/conspiracy arguments can alter likely outcomes. The thread was repeatedly unsettled by trust conflicts, accusations, and competing standards over verifiable facts versus political inference. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Post-sentencing procedural restart: whether motions are still valid and whether a second pass can still intervene","description":"Participants dispute whether sentencing ends available motions or leaves them alive for continued procedural relief in a second round, with competing views on how finality should be treated. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q94c6e34021147825a34a","q1e0c225458f33ff4787c","qd9aad050d9759d69fca6"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q94c6e34021147825a34a","summary_en":"A participant asks whether any post-sentencing path can still proceed after sentencing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1e0c225458f33ff4787c","summary_en":"Another participant contends that sentencing does not make a pending motion disappear. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd9aad050d9759d69fca6","summary_en":"A further speaker says that after sentencing, procedural problems become fixed in a practical sense. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Second-round and injunction sequencing: supplemental filings, uploads, and refiling timing create disagreement","description":"Participants dispute the procedural timeline for injunction-related relief, especially when to file supplements versus when renewed applications are appropriate. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q99512a7c6463034c9091","q7ce46d38879ed2aa5188","qf63c7d73c7ad55be6819"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q99512a7c6463034c9091","summary_en":"A posting states that a supplemental filing supporting a compulsory-order motion was granted and that the court has considered those materials. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7ce46d38879ed2aa5188","summary_en":"Another note points to an entry marked \"849,\" implying another docket or filing step linked to procedural movement. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf63c7d73c7ad55be6819","summary_en":"A participant adds that many people invested over years and still back the defendant, while acknowledging some may have been misled, affecting how party status is argued. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Third-party and victim role boundaries: who can participate and who should be represented by prosecution","description":"Participants dispute whether third parties should intervene at all, whether prosecution adequately represents victim interests, and whether distrust of prosecutors justifies separate motions. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf7ae55ccde17ce7e56e0","q2e1f5509381d020e72dc","qaa362e410153ebc8ef06"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf7ae55ccde17ce7e56e0","summary_en":"One speaker argues normal criminal matters should not require victim or third-party intervention, and says prosecutors can represent victims while claiming most investors did not formally register as victims. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2e1f5509381d020e72dc","summary_en":"Another participant says it is irrational for victims to seek defense counsel and says counsel should not accept such outreach. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qaa362e410153ebc8ef06","summary_en":"A third participant says the case was moved by third parties because they do not trust prosecutors. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim roster and identity instability: five-person list versus broad supporter counts","description":"Participants dispute victim composition, alternating between a narrow five-person set and broader claims of many supporters, with identity framing treated as central evidence in credibility conflicts. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4d6c415876379f2db0f9","q552920818757300842dc","q4bc30aed826c8d976c47"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4d6c415876379f2db0f9","summary_en":"One user identifies a five-person group as the people tied to the second-round stay context. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q552920818757300842dc","summary_en":"Another asserts there are victims, but says the number is very small. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4bc30aed826c8d976c47","summary_en":"A further participant mocks the idea that only five prosecution-accepted victims were involved, arguing those five were supporters rather than a representative victim base. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Trust split toward prosecution and judiciary: political framing and selective victim allegations","description":"Participants contend the case management is politically motivated, alleging selective victim designation, while others treat these claims as contested rhetoric rather than verified institutional findings. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q8e6ee245c295756b9ea5","q1986fb79c0f4d60a5bde","q966e45e91a4a3434d501"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q8e6ee245c295756b9ea5","summary_en":"One participant alleges deep governmental interference, saying there are no willing victims and implying prosecutors manufactured victims through allied networks. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1986fb79c0f4d60a5bde","summary_en":"Another claims that if the goal is political suppression, participants will not accept being labeled as Guo’s victims and instead frame themselves as harmed by DOJ misclassification. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q966e45e91a4a3434d501","summary_en":"A further speaker reads this as evidence that prosecutors intentionally separated cooperators from non-cooperators. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"CIPA and disclosure track: whether classified materials include Brady/Giglio and impeachment material","description":"Participants argue that CIPA is the key dispute, with disagreement over whether suppressed or substituted classified materials are actually Brady/Giglio impeachment evidence rather than routine secrecy shielding. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q77da6b7020213f2860e0","qfd0620eecac61e76ff66","qb18e3065e2ca689ddb0e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q77da6b7020213f2860e0","summary_en":"One participant says CIPA was wrongly decided and that removed or replaced classified materials may actually be Brady/Giglio impeachment evidence, making CIPA the serious issue. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfd0620eecac61e76ff66","summary_en":"Another says unsubmitted materials are likely to include many Brady and Giglio impeachment items. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qb18e3065e2ca689ddb0e","summary_en":"A participant adds that if everything were disclosed, this would involve more than one \"Tony\" and would significantly strengthen a CIPA challenge. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Investment money or scam money: fund flow and account verification as a persistent dispute","description":"Participants dispute whether transferred funds are legitimate investments or fraudulent proceeds, with competing interpretations of testimony and return patterns shaping the victim and mens rea narrative. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q88553754317c041f4aba","q68e2958c892b0d5bbb8e","q8e61162146aa7e1f8f85"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q88553754317c041f4aba","summary_en":"One participant insists transferred funds were investment capital through the farm structure, citing gains and arguing the prosecution reframed them as fraud money to secure conviction. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q68e2958c892b0d5bbb8e","summary_en":"Another says possible victims could include Yu Jianming and other alleged co-conspirators. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8e61162146aa7e1f8f85","summary_en":"A counterpoint says this victim argument alone cannot overturn a jury verdict because project participants reportedly testified to Guo’s motive to defraud. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"RICO and conspiracy scope: whether Guo is sole target and who bears responsibility","description":"Participants contest RICO framing by challenging why only Guo is portrayed as the target and by debating whether responsibility should extend to broader participants or scapegoats. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q42d921921dcbc60f15a0","q2556f7d93442fba7041c","qf4afe34a7ae6328e853e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q42d921921dcbc60f15a0","summary_en":"One participant asks why RICO enforcement would only involve Guo. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2556f7d93442fba7041c","summary_en":"Another asks whether the reference to \"Gail 6000\" implies a broad win for other actors. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf4afe34a7ae6328e853e","summary_en":"A further message urges prosecutors to pursue a scapegoat, naming 'Niao Qing Luc.' Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Outcome expectations shift: reversal, deportation, and delay predictions moving together","description":"Participants dispute endgame timelines and outcomes, with predictions ranging from conviction and deportation to broad uncertainty about finality and process duration. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9c01374882b74f9228de","qf73a84a1fa225037a0b2","qf485052040f622e4a118"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9c01374882b74f9228de","summary_en":"One participant predicts conviction, immediate deportation without U.S. sentence service, and a likely return in July. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf73a84a1fa225037a0b2","summary_en":"Another repeats the expectation that sentencing will be followed by deportation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf485052040f622e4a118","summary_en":"A later participant states bluntly that the process is finished. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Information credibility struggle: distinguishing verifiable evidence from speculation","description":"Participants contend over methodology, with one side rejecting unverifiable statements as unreliable while the other treats proof of intelligence involvement as necessary to reframe RICO links. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0a337c1a14c1d24adbb5","q85befe4f4a9776b0862d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0a337c1a14c1d24adbb5","summary_en":"A participant says statements attributed to Guo cannot be cross-checked and should be treated as unreliable rhetoric. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q85befe4f4a9776b0862d","summary_en":"Another argues the key challenge is proving specific actors were intelligence operatives to break RICO ties, and questions whether fraud-only proof can be enough. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Group governance and speech boundaries: identity claims, muting, and targeting controversies","description":"Participants dispute moderation norms, including membership identity disclosure, kicking, and the legitimacy of targeting specific users, with these conflicts affecting trust in group process. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9349ac2fcaa19629ebec","q8c465439b3adbf934c75","q7b22ede5411b3cb692d9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9349ac2fcaa19629ebec","summary_en":"One participant reports being kicked from the group. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8c465439b3adbf934c75","summary_en":"Another post contains a redacted member-identity reference only. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7b22ede5411b3cb692d9","summary_en":"A later comment mentions a business owner identified as [删节：成员身份], described as also belonging to the old group. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Lawyer status and pro se boundaries: licensed counsel self-representation and equal treatment","description":"Participants dispute whether a licensed attorney may proceed pro se, with arguments split between categorical bars and more permissive interpretations regardless of bar status. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qe1321509a5aee287b4ef","q351014b63257a38baa79","q286ceefa53613d123981"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qe1321509a5aee287b4ef","summary_en":"One speaker says lawyers cannot represent themselves pro se. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q351014b63257a38baa79","summary_en":"Another speaker claims pro se representation should be allowed. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q286ceefa53613d123981","summary_en":"A third participant argues that license status should not change the answer. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论的核心先围绕量刑后是否还能重新推动程序。群内对二巡路径、强制令、motion for 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受害者是0 确实可以判20年 没问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf11d427bc5581054353b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q2e3d16a5211973fd2146","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":405,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-18T07:59:16.689Z","text":"但现在的情况是 检方计算损失和受害者方法崩塌","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e3d16a5211973fd2146","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q8f358acbabb611062d00","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":406,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-18T07:59:23.591Z","text":"这就有问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f358acbabb611062d00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qef5b95c6cbdd90dcce75","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":407,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-18T07:59:27.773Z","text":"不是0不0的问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef5b95c6cbdd90dcce75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qed268cdc6414fc5d45ac","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":408,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-18T09:17:41.119Z","text":"629 还可以去最高法stay","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed268cdc6414fc5d45ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qd10d2d8baaffed0c57f3","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":409,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-05-18T10:48:28.206Z","text":"https://x.com/freedomhouzi/status/2056295733007880288?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd10d2d8baaffed0c57f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q113c524d64547d463ae2","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":410,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-05-18T12:55:06.116Z","text":"好像是记得辩方说过自己负责几百万。 \n\n伪类还挺嚣张。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q113c524d64547d463ae2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q101dbfd4428ea74feec2","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":411,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-18T13:46:17.641Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]\n不是822是834","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101dbfd4428ea74feec2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qc3135157fdf77a9ce469","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":412,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-18T14:12:05.846Z","text":"这个傻X就是个法盲文盲，怕是连什么是 主权冲突，都不懂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd10d2d8baaffed0c57f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3135157fdf77a9ce469","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd10d2d8baaffed0c57f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q6c83144d05f60479a16f","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":413,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-05-18T15:06:15.221Z","text":"我也不是太懂。以前根本就没有听说过。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc3135157fdf77a9ce469","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c83144d05f60479a16f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3135157fdf77a9ce469","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q00e63279d8b1e1a7ed02","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":414,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-18T15:55:54.748Z","text":"乱码妹又开始骂魔女，不是才转巴顿的截图，翻脸不认人啊🤣 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就是脏钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05206d66c8612931d9a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a379b4f1c1b6f7a2868","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05206d66c8612931d9a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q8f04dc83a8c33aceb8f5","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":425,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-18T22:25:57.904Z","text":"所以关键是要证明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f04dc83a8c33aceb8f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qb85c3890cd2df105333a","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":426,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-18T22:25:59.873Z","text":"是不是骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb85c3890cd2df105333a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q660a59d137a836c363d7","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":427,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-18T22:26:18.771Z","text":"不是战友们的钱是脏的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q660a59d137a836c363d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qa6b8bd3e064b5f3a8b53","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":428,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-18T22:26:33.882Z","text":"而是大家被骗了 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幾十人；\n* 上百人；\n* 有一致格式；\n* 有公證或宣誓；\n* 有投資紀錄附件；\n\n法院就比較難忽視。\n\n在美國聯邦案件裡，「形成案卷壓力（record pressure）」本身就是程序戰的一部分。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53ca951fc53628955125","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q23c09b3ada7e5f642253","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":434,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T22:33:16.283Z","text":"王艳平是gfashion负责人啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe981b4fa8b4f0796921e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23c09b3ada7e5f642253","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe981b4fa8b4f0796921e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q8c1fd9f09de11530b4cd","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":435,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T22:34:03.732Z","text":"到底是谁骗了谁，普通人不可能知道这么多","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1e9beffe649ee840dc6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c1fd9f09de11530b4cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1e9beffe649ee840dc6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q7648ec7e219b54a39eb5","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":436,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T22:34:11.105Z","text":"你在說什麼呢，現在聯盟農場還值得信任嗎？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q31454c26f014e96a419a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7648ec7e219b54a39eb5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31454c26f014e96a419a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q1c08e1216b537e72a54b","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":437,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T22:34:40.808Z","text":"公司内部的运营，谁挪用了钱，谁贪污了钱，普通战友不可能知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c08e1216b537e72a54b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qa9c4128f87505d57199d","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":438,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T22:36:05.378Z","text":"普通战友只能说自己知道的，看到的，而且不能下结论","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9c4128f87505d57199d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q3d4df261c257cfebfc16","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":439,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T22:37:34.630Z","text":"所以现在很多人说自己不是受害者，这就很奇怪了，你怎么知道自己不是受害者呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d4df261c257cfebfc16","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q9c52e2667c88c09b896c","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":440,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T22:37:43.627Z","text":"大家投資都是為了滅共的，爾郭文貴是共黨的頭號敵人，共黨一直試圖把他引渡回國未果，這些都是我們信任他的證據","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c52e2667c88c09b896c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q7fbe096255e6fa1c6482","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":441,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-05-18T22:39:19.769Z","text":"联盟农场早就替傻蚂蚁们搞过剧本，你们不是郭文贵的受害者，你们是政府的受害者。然后，要拿回属于自己的钱!盖尔的六千多人，Gaveman的几百人。不都是联盟农场搞的啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7648ec7e219b54a39eb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fbe096255e6fa1c6482","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7648ec7e219b54a39eb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qbbc92a6bc742bf202f54","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":442,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T22:40:10.896Z","text":"Gaveman是誰？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbc92a6bc742bf202f54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qad3bbd5955dfb0a49be4","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":443,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T22:40:38.199Z","text":"也许郭和这一切都没有关系，我是说也许因为具体普通战友也不知道，但是王余联盟农场做了什么，普通战友是不知道的。普通人只能说你看到的不正常的现象不合理的现象。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad3bbd5955dfb0a49be4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qb5923cc0fdf60174b9bd","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":444,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-05-18T22:43:00.577Z","text":"数字银行那几百客户投资者的代理律师。也代理了喜交所汉密尔顿等几个实体，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有沒有顯示被告在被檢方有意圖栽贓陷害時被告律師沒有提出該有的及時嚴厲的反對？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6362b5e5fab3ca1ddad7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q151e12007706f84b04ac","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":452,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T22:58:21.064Z","text":"我一開始以為需要等待讓各種魚上鉤，然後美國那邊的司法系統律師系統的八爪魚也會陸續出來","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q151e12007706f84b04ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q6063d44c30ad9035341e","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":453,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T23:01:35.180Z","text":"怎麼說？罵人🤬首先顯示你不禮貌也不理智","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc17823dbcd69c3df280b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6063d44c30ad9035341e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qc7d2ec9a89a6aaf67f7f","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":454,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T23:01:56.314Z","text":"什麼叫挖坑？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7d2ec9a89a6aaf67f7f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q446c3ac9c67e859ef536","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":455,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T23:03:34.611Z","text":"我搜素AI 像我們這樣的情況如何有效證明我們每一個投資者沒有被欺詐","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q446c3ac9c67e859ef536","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q8e7c494de311e2889f3e","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":456,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T23:04:59.356Z","text":"盖尔都代表6000人了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06f863652c2f0b87d86a","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e7c494de311e2889f3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q000dc359f15e48cf9ba1","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":457,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T23:05:13.126Z","text":"这不就是你说的联合提交材料吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q000dc359f15e48cf9ba1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q04d4ed8fd0e7fd5fadbc","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":458,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T23:05:26.461Z","text":"自诉人不是联合，自诉人都是自己代表自己","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04d4ed8fd0e7fd5fadbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qdeddd0bd8866b7133afe","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":459,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T23:05:41.477Z","text":"真正的自诉人不和任何人联合","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdeddd0bd8866b7133afe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q94e8df97a47f859047b5","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":460,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T23:05:58.359Z","text":"你投射成挖坑？就是因為被代表了？然後咱們自訴人就不能集結起來形成更不可忽視的力量了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94e8df97a47f859047b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q160651d3be8dd638e247","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":461,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T23:07:30.785Z","text":"法院面對一個個個體覺得力量大，還是面對一個統一意志的群體覺得力量大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q160651d3be8dd638e247","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q530e9ed1cc621e3c7a10","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":462,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T23:08:14.126Z","text":"maga就是一個群體","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q530e9ed1cc621e3c7a10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q85d8a652347799e496c7","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":463,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T23:09:32.409Z","text":"Maga被rico了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q530e9ed1cc621e3c7a10","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85d8a652347799e496c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q530e9ed1cc621e3c7a10","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qc8adf069513fbdb22fc6","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":464,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T23:09:49.235Z","text":"你知道Rico是什么吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8adf069513fbdb22fc6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q0087604fd4eb9a0d32d0","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":465,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-05-18T23:09:59.027Z","text":"你自己建群去集结力量去。你跟着联盟也许还能集结到力量。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0087604fd4eb9a0d32d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q0d4f7a1b7cde7cf4c73d","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":466,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-05-18T23:11:06.492Z","text":"联盟集结到了6000多人，你去效仿他们吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q160651d3be8dd638e247","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d4f7a1b7cde7cf4c73d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q160651d3be8dd638e247","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qbcf1eeeedb0b6428acef","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":467,"speaker":"lui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一大把不容易折斷 這是自然規律，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe928df748f2ab0a71cf3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qdfebfad51025344dc946","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":483,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T23:22:26.417Z","text":"我的感觉已经告诉你了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa228b766f5fad2218ba8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfebfad51025344dc946","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa228b766f5fad2218ba8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qe93a04aff5138d54f524","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":484,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T23:22:32.068Z","text":"但是你不听","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe93a04aff5138d54f524","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q2d868d9921b7a0c0c061","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":485,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T23:22:41.298Z","text":"你不听就不听呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d868d9921b7a0c0c061","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q8f498947711d52fe64ac","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":486,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T23:22:42.204Z","text":"哪些陰慘的傢伙也就是利用這個道理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f498947711d52fe64ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q9d7c1d9587d55fb5a980","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":487,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-18T23:22:44.103Z","text":"还一直问","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d7c1d9587d55fb5a980","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q1de9339396c81a901f3f","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":488,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T23:23:37.626Z","text":"既然你們已經設置好這個禁區，我就不再問了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1de9339396c81a901f3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qed475b083defef5be0d4","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":489,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-18T23:24:25.157Z","text":"你觉得他像谁 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反共 都可以","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb56e45e44bbe2b341a70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qdf69345922e1af51d596","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":502,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-18T23:39:54.973Z","text":"只是你挺共还是反共 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 老郭早就出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02fa5c191e11621d4710","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q402608cf2ee125b1b3cb","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":513,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T23:43:48.554Z","text":"政治 包含所有，只是政治被頂層隔離豁免","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q402608cf2ee125b1b3cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q8ac94b2fb23f85f28f98","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":514,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T23:45:52.341Z","text":"這個案子本身就是政治投資，滅共才會吸引我投資 ，如果不是滅共我會懷疑是騙局","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ac94b2fb23f85f28f98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qc5ffc4e327e7aa5b7274","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":515,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-18T23:59:28.495Z","text":"下次寫petition這句話我一定要寫進去，每個人投資的目的如果不是為了滅共，而是按照共匪的模式進行言語行動，就不是gtv和喜交所的合格投資人，就不能作為案件的任何關聯人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5ffc4e327e7aa5b7274","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q4304e7caa93bc249cf05","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":516,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T00:00:28.670Z","text":"他們代表的群體裡有多少是不合格的投資者，檢方和法院認真審核過嗎？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4304e7caa93bc249cf05","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qa46ad1f2ac0d97e52061","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":517,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:01:59.909Z","text":"Gtv和洗脚所说过这种话吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5ffc4e327e7aa5b7274","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa46ad1f2ac0d97e52061","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5ffc4e327e7aa5b7274","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q2f993e566ffd8dbced6f","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":518,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T00:02:18.012Z","text":"郭先生應該說過","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f993e566ffd8dbced6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q5d93d8afc643b7cc2dc0","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":519,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:02:38.330Z","text":"再说，谁来定义什么是按照共匪的模式言语行动？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d93d8afc643b7cc2dc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qef592521902ae70bcc72","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":520,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:02:56.270Z","text":"那你怎么知道，你自己不是按照共匪的模式言语行动呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef592521902ae70bcc72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qb1665188618321a76193","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":521,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T00:02:59.324Z","text":"我需要查一下gtv的詳細合同和喜交所的各種文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1665188618321a76193","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q1043d535d857994a740c","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":522,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:03:44.827Z","text":"郭代表洗脚所吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2f993e566ffd8dbced6f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1043d535d857994a740c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f993e566ffd8dbced6f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qb2de2d2118853a946d94","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":523,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:03:52.894Z","text":"郭代表gtv吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2de2d2118853a946d94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q9f3cf2a3101cf1ec6365","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":524,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T00:03:55.413Z","text":"共匪的特務造假，郭先生一直強調唯真不破","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d93d8afc643b7cc2dc0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f3cf2a3101cf1ec6365","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d93d8afc643b7cc2dc0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q90a7e0d98ed66317a6e2","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":525,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:04:11.256Z","text":"郭在这两个机构有职务吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90a7e0d98ed66317a6e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000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的經歷定義，一我不是黨員….","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60a1c361fa147b0b5aba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9da1cf02b380166c77c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a1c361fa147b0b5aba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q750e0f9d8c325bf482ed","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":539,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:09:15.150Z","text":"川普作为美国总统，能管特斯拉吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3703bfa88d45fe8350c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q750e0f9d8c325bf482ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3703bfa88d45fe8350c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q93cb426d4af7ba428459","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":540,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:09:20.762Z","text":"能管苹果吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93cb426d4af7ba428459","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q12ba2e45f729867b96fb","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":541,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:09:30.640Z","text":"能管微软吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12ba2e45f729867b96fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q4e6ff8925c10d9336165","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":542,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:09:41.692Z","text":"这些公司犯了法，川普要坐牢吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e6ff8925c10d9336165","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q966ee67adcbded8ead69","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":543,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T00:09:55.858Z","text":"特斯拉和蘋果不涉及政治鬥爭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q966ee67adcbded8ead69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q28d0238c07dc4b765b08","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":544,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T00:10:10.092Z","text":"這個才是重點","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e6ff8925c10d9336165","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28d0238c07dc4b765b08","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e6ff8925c10d9336165","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q611019b96767facf86ab","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":545,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:10:30.383Z","text":"你怎么知道这些公司不涉及政治斗争","edited":false,"reply_to":"q966ee67adcbded8ead69","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q611019b96767facf86ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q966ee67adcbded8ead69","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qe3607cff86ce9ace7b4d","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":546,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T00:10:36.823Z","text":"那就是說如果涉及到政治反爾對郭先生不利","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3607cff86ce9ace7b4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q161071cf3af0e08e25bd","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":547,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:10:49.328Z","text":"你没听郭的直播？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q161071cf3af0e08e25bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q1deafea58bbff1f6d0e4","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":548,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T00:11:05.295Z","text":"請賜教","edited":false,"reply_to":"q161071cf3af0e08e25bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1deafea58bbff1f6d0e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q161071cf3af0e08e25bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q0a0f780c7b2087750dd9","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":549,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:11:50.958Z","text":"你多听一下郭的直播，就知道这些公司涉不涉及政治斗争了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1deafea58bbff1f6d0e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a0f780c7b2087750dd9","repl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，AI好像也提到這個問題","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bbe680136d1b68daad1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qc875a1eb367e35ad54b5","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":555,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T00:14:34.498Z","text":"我只是臨時從現象來看","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd9d376d56f2df8197f4e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc875a1eb367e35ad54b5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9d376d56f2df8197f4e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q6910231ee33d9e1b9979","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":556,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:19:07.576Z","text":"法庭上为什么要提政治啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0bbe680136d1b68daad1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6910231ee33d9e1b9979","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bbe680136d1b68daad1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qfe9b3acb58a832d82b10","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":557,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:19:25.991Z","text":"你想提政治，也要有证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe9b3acb58a832d82b10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q2ed5bc6c247033086460","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":558,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:19:37.856Z","text":"法庭只看证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ed5bc6c247033086460","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q5fc8e8907ead43be20fe","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":559,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:19:54.702Z","text":"不是你说你被中共迫害，你就被迫害了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fc8e8907ead43be20fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q5d75ae73381737bc20a2","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":560,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T00:20:00.146Z","text":"主權衝突之一就涉及到政治","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d75ae73381737bc20a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q89d4c81ef18f8ed79bfb","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":561,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:20:13.951Z","text":"那也是因为有证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d75ae73381737bc20a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89d4c81ef18f8ed79bfb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d75ae73381737bc20a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q89b1b83996b93095aad9","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":562,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:20:27.875Z","text":"没证据，你喊你被中共迫害，谁听？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89b1b83996b93095aad9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q2c04f4dca4cbab0942e2","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":563,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-19T00:22:18.115Z","text":"现在法庭上中共迫害的证据不多，但是联盟农场造假的证据一大把","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c04f4dca4cbab0942e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q7c4d6fff000a732b61ff","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":564,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T00:37:44.076Z","text":"我給青頭蓋特留言被他們消號算不算讓參與者禁聲的政治表達受干預？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c4d6fff000a732b61ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q22b0395c8d351f786efc","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":565,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-19T00:50:52.132Z","text":"演入戏了\nhttps://x.com/kk26400689/status/2056464640398246151?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22b0395c8d351f786efc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q37391a34705272dff962","batch_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意見，ai 給出答案，發到群裡看看是否可行，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fd2ea925d198428c36e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q0b41b0e2468aa4f215c3","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":583,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-05-19T02:02:48.138Z","text":"作证者已经被联盟公告里明确认为是侵占战友投资款的罪犯，如戴建鋒、sahra魏丽红等，让犯罪嫌疑人出来作证，检方不是在栽种一颗毒树吗？这是检方司法欺诈吧！检方在源头就翻车了！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8e61162146aa7e1f8f85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b41b0e2468aa4f215c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e61162146aa7e1f8f85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q75e482b709a933dfe95d","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":584,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-05-19T02:05:20.289Z","text":"自诉人本质上就是相互独立的个体。没有联合一说。 ［用户 lui***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75e482b709a933dfe95d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q60cfa8e9c8feaf3e3d05","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":585,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-19T02:05:50.551Z","text":"如果是灭共演员接收的投资款，可以重点说事实经过，什么时候，谁给的账号，账号的具体信息，转钱了之后是什么反馈，然后自己一直对这笔投资款的追踪，什么时候感觉到出了问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35621df35a9b330af38a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60cfa8e9c8feaf3e3d05","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35621df35a9b330af38a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q09a68f1dbf9ba87eb3e5","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":586,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T02:10:25.986Z","text":"大家的錢最後不都是打到喜交所去了，變成喜幣了嗎","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09a68f1dbf9ba87eb3e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q0f2be367a32ae5186d6a","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":587,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T02:12:06.097Z","text":"我現在被農場踢出來了，問農場主也經常不回覆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f2be367a32ae5186d6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q7b20b1548155a834ac67","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":588,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-19T02:13:20.341Z","text":"能够在喜交所开户的人，是直接在喜交所网站拿的账号直接汇款。凡是有灭共演员经手的，都要去核实一下，如果没有核实过或者人已经找不到了没法核实，就把整个自己转钱，追踪的过程详细写出来。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q09a68f1dbf9ba87eb3e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b20b1548155a834ac67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09a68f1dbf9ba87eb3e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qd2cc68bc24bca1c610a7","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":589,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T02:14:27.105Z","text":"我的都有喜幣數量和HID號","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2cc68bc24bca1c610a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q5a58717c3974b66e8697","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":590,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-19T02:15:17.029Z","text":"你就说，通过农场主的这些行为，可以合理推测，农场根本就没有履行信托责任，把我的钱转到我要求转到的地方。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f2be367a32ae5186d6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a58717c3974b66e8697","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f2be367a32ae5186d6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qc733d00d259086bd2d82","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":591,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-19T02:16:09.160Z","text":"然后要求政府核实，这些钱是否进入了政府所谓的G enterprise 。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc733d00d259086bd2d82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"qb8270f9c8891d125651a","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":592,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-19T02:18:28.727Z","text":"😓什麼意思？這些錢現在都不知道是不是轉進G enterprise？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8270f9c8891d125651a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q9a24dab719b54088c17f","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":593,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-19T02:21:26.386Z","text":"农场主自己吞了\n参考841加拿大的小鸟","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb8270f9c8891d125651a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a24dab719b54088c17f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8270f9c8891d125651a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112"},{"id":"q3e917d5f6c460d2c0eca","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":594,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-19T02:21:53.740Z","text":"只有直接跟Gclub和喜交所交易的资金，以及直接参与gtv私募的资金，可以确定进入了G enterprise 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