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王上诉\n王认罪的两项GTV，无罪，可以出来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1cad84d5143f40d7e667","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadb3fd46e3974032316f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cad84d5143f40d7e667","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qbeaba8a216c0e9f732cd","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":5,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-01T12:53:13.216Z","text":"联盟这些人过去3年说话遮遮掩掩，打信息差，好像他们掌控内幕，一直这么演？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbeaba8a216c0e9f732cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q06e70ba7afcf482a2fa0","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":6,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-01T12:54:13.051Z","text":"天龙人自居\n投资者就是蝼蚁韭菜","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbeaba8a216c0e9f732cd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06e70ba7afcf482a2fa0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbeaba8a216c0e9f732cd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q1db98dd9e027e809d573","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":7,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-01T12:55:30.864Z","text":"我一直在关注司法部谁的家属/人被抓 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对不对？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qadb3fd46e3974032316f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f3ad47b00930bba2d18","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadb3fd46e3974032316f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q700e7460221341f43029","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":9,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-01T12:59:22.038Z","text":"无罪了，没收怎么算","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f3ad47b00930bba2d18","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q700e7460221341f43029","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f3ad47b00930bba2d18","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q764d3158a5d23872fb7e","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":10,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-01T12:59:48.336Z","text":"王必须先认罪，同意没收整个G系列\n这个没收范围，才能套用到郭头上，才能通过刑事案，把G系列，都拿给破产案luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q764d3158a5d23872fb7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q0679c28cbfdb34f63fae","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":11,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-01T13:00:09.612Z","text":"所以王燕平 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王的认罪，同意没收，才是郭案的关键","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddda5b4cff71f2522787","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q1fb423825f53a6581239","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":18,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-01T14:12:53.817Z","text":"就是司法欺诈； 检方不知道王燕平没有权利同意第三方资产被没收吗？ 当然知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qddda5b4cff71f2522787","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fb423825f53a6581239","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddda5b4cff71f2522787","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qc5567d9287b47fdd16e3","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":19,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-01T14:13:44.973Z","text":"王量刑以后，检方不断催促郭案量刑，目的也是保刑事案郭案的没收，保证破产案luc可以拿到G系列\n同时让王可以起诉，根据郭案改判无罪，而不影响整体没收-luc-PAG","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5567d9287b47fdd16e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q2b6c1321b01f69649c99","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":20,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-01T14:15:32.491Z","text":"除了司法欺诈， 他们还涉嫌criminal conspiracy, 这是另一个罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b6c1321b01f69649c99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q60272a62b841cb952c16","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":21,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-01T14:17:04.947Z","text":"这就是青们，在王案量刑后，造假填表的目的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1fb423825f53a6581239","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60272a62b841cb952c16","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fb423825f53a6581239","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q84b3e49059d343bebbcb","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":22,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-01T14:18:22.786Z","text":"第三方都被青的表，骗成853i 等remission\n基本没有853n，更不用说CVRA\n王是英雄，怎么能用CVRA当受害者呢？\n庭上于是就没有了质疑王案没收的声音","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84b3e49059d343bebbcb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qa36ebcf1283cdfce1421","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":23,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-01T14:19:52.897Z","text":"所以 按照这个逻辑， 检方Luc 王（共匪），青联盟合谋， 侵吞第三方资产， 这构成了criminal conspiracy ， 也可以上RICO 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partner， 知法犯法； 检方是这个 criminal conspiracy, RICO 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威力巨大","edited":false,"reply_to":"qadcf9ae5b8a7cb5cbb78","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79f764838b10d0e67480","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadcf9ae5b8a7cb5cbb78","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qfb9bc670684e6d1cc3fb","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":32,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-01T14:40:36.627Z","text":"Pacer还要先获得批准才能注册，你们也是这样的吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb9bc670684e6d1cc3fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q1e2546d37012eba18722","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":33,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-01T14:40:40.237Z","text":"这帮人，包括屁酱，一直强调的是材料要通过联盟，通过郭律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e2546d37012eba18722","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qdfdfb67393fcd53fa0fb","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":34,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-01T14:42:11.453Z","text":"墙内的如果信了联盟，那么很惨\n证据上不了庭，个人信息也被这些人转手给国安","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfdfb67393fcd53fa0fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q9a3cd61c7538595a178e","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":35,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-01T14:42:40.073Z","text":"不能肉身出来的，估计会很惨","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a3cd61c7538595a178e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qf095cc20f31be9972e2f","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":36,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-01T14:43:15.165Z","text":"Tony就是个漏网之鱼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf095cc20f31be9972e2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qca0a2ce346c8339b96c8","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":37,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-01T14:45:25.231Z","text":"tony也是历险记 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只要跟着他们反正做 案子就推翻了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q720a4b775e0b35de1edb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q3ce28a0d3356418250fe","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":96,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-06-01T16:38:13.422Z","text":"怎么有脸说出这种话呢，他们搞的诈骗币都跌到发行价以下了，还有什么人支持他们呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8958cc14d9d31c03119b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ce28a0d3356418250fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8958cc14d9d31c03119b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q868233157e22a2ddfef8","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":97,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-01T16:39:33.981Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 那我觉得郭案已经彻底可以推翻了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q868233157e22a2ddfef8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qf4fb328bee804f57463b","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":98,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-01T16:39:42.276Z","text":"几大支柱全部碎了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4fb328bee804f57463b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qeb180e63e52a515d2800","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":99,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-01T16:40:53.419Z","text":"我跟着长岛的号召和思路，也盲目地以为王是英雄，这种看法也持续了很长一段时间。ZTMD! 现在总算想明白了，只有把灭爆的新老联盟的所有说法反过来看才是对的，它们推崇的英雄才是真正的恶魔。所谓的英雄是它们的，而不是我们的。只有把王看成共匪的、灭爆的、带任务的、害郭的坏女人，这一切迷团才能解开。\n我老公以前说王是世界上最坏的女人，抛家弃子、破坏别人的家庭，为此我还跟他吵过架。看来他还真的说对了一大半。😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd374cd15528d79ed83bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb180e63e52a515d2800","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd374cd15528d79ed83bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q3b1cefcbcc983ba2e442","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":100,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-06-01T16:45:16.789Z","text":"郭先生直播的时候已经很清楚的说王是共产党安排她身边的人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b1cefcbcc983ba2e442","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q367fd5346288ef19b0ed","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":101,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-01T16:47:43.226Z","text":"没印象","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b1cefcbcc983ba2e442","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q367fd5346288ef19b0ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b1cefcbcc983ba2e442","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q8cd4c0ee9527bf260ab1","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":102,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-01T16:49:43.187Z","text":"是应该写点关于王的什么了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe99fceb67fb7759206d0","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cd4c0ee9527bf260ab1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qe02ff83131985cf203d0","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":103,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-01T17:53:26.347Z","text":"我搜了直播提到王雁平的关键词，只看到21年的有一条这个，是九指妖说郭说过王是特务，但郭说她撒谎","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b1cefcbcc983ba2e442","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe02ff83131985cf203d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b1cefcbcc983ba2e442","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q9b9b324351980aeb3162","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":104,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-06-01T23:16:13.225Z","text":"https://x.com/lone8964/status/2061586388848611509?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b9b324351980aeb3162","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q0124e6ba316cb9ccac9d","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":105,"speaker":"lou***","date":"2026-06-01T23:18:15.317Z","text":"联盟做节目，说漏嘴被抓的是检察官 。不知道是故意说的还是真的。反正没任何报道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1cad84d5143f40d7e667","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0124e6ba316cb9ccac9d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cad84d5143f40d7e667","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q0a07e65310a453450669","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":106,"speaker":"lou***","date":"2026-06-01T23:20:50.467Z","text":"老郭房间里本来就有一个钓鱼的小雕像，这个联系到王有点牵强","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b9b324351980aeb3162","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a07e65310a453450669","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b9b324351980aeb3162","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q297f9d2397d278db1f09","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":107,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-01T23:28:02.269Z","text":"美国政府抓人，抓美国人， 抓检察官， 绝对不可能偷偷的就给抓了/关起来了。\n这个想法非常中国人的思维方式。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0124e6ba316cb9ccac9d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q297f9d2397d278db1f09","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0124e6ba316cb9ccac9d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qab3ccf039e5fb596d634","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":108,"speaker":"lou***","date":"2026-06-01T23:29:27.742Z","text":"联盟那些露脸的说话，没有一个可信的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q297f9d2397d278db1f09","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab3ccf039e5fb596d634","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q297f9d2397d278db1f09","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qb8e512a8d537f50c9abf","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":109,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-01T23:37:06.108Z","text":"这个案子最后下来， 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最早的gongzhu, julia等人登記？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48c95e889f79ebcac359","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q6fdc3b9b1deecc5c7298","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":158,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-02T08:12:04.090Z","text":"因为就是做局，且在luc这个地方从任命开始就违法，后面登记拱卒和朱莉娅的债权更是违法，接下来的所谓追回欺诈转移，用g系列资产支付破产调查费用也是违法行为。然后南区检察官办公室明知这些是违法手段的结果，却依然将其当作法律事实呈现给大陪审团，南区法院，陪审团，把虚假债权用在量刑和没收环节。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q48c95e889f79ebcac359","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fdc3b9b1deecc5c7298","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48c95e889f79ebcac359","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q7a2a4ca7e606297603be","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":159,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-02T10:46:30.381Z","text":"要是用郭的直播作为证据去打Luc能行吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6fdc3b9b1deecc5c7298","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a2a4ca7e606297603be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fdc3b9b1deecc5c7298","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q3b4de54b296cdb4398c7","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":160,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-02T11:34:10.577Z","text":"不行。庭审时可能会影响陪审团。现在已经被定罪后，要用独立证据证明被告说过的那些内容。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7a2a4ca7e606297603be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b4de54b296cdb4398c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a2a4ca7e606297603be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qbe67bed25e80d59f15d9","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":161,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-02T11:39:56.577Z","text":"哪来的证据，都郭自己说的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b4de54b296cdb4398c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe67bed25e80d59f15d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b4de54b296cdb4398c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qe166f448ee790746b556","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":162,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-02T11:40:57.883Z","text":"之前不说普衡官网有与中共企业的业务合同。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b4de54b296cdb4398c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe166f448ee790746b556","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b4de54b296cdb4398c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qaf8d2dccb15e61d3a276","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":163,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-02T11:54:46.849Z","text":"肯定有人留底","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc27d947d21595939793d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf8d2dccb15e61d3a276","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q21d3f56fa267fc5951c2","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":164,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-02T13:05:36.332Z","text":"突然想起， 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咱们可不可以要subpoena 他， 问他律师费的问题？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae72a8fcacdf8d68fed8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qd28bbbbaa71bf4a9f2ec","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":167,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-02T13:24:01.315Z","text":"律师费是他们RICO 的一个证据链","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd28bbbbaa71bf4a9f2ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q40dda85867c8f4bd8a9b","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":168,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-02T13:26:06.392Z","text":"这些都是细节","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd28bbbbaa71bf4a9f2ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40dda85867c8f4bd8a9b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd28bbbbaa71bf4a9f2ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q0ebc9b4c4437b7492c42","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":169,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-02T13:26:16.256Z","text":"要命的不在这","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ebc9b4c4437b7492c42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q472d2553d27dce5b2954","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":170,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-02T13:26:37.014Z","text":"王案没收一旦垮，这些853n都是闹剧joke","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q472d2553d27dce5b2954","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qc9c09b9915cc6195650d","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":171,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-02T13:27:17.673Z","text":"luc在破产案兴风作浪，在刑事案当缩头乌龟，闷声发大财","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19773772c33c533e45a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9c09b9915cc6195650d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19773772c33c533e45a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qe80bbd176db2b22de0b2","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":172,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-02T13:32:17.462Z","text":"这些局，检方如果要自保，可以把锅丢给luc  长岛 青 证据都是他们造假的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6fdc3b9b1deecc5c7298","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe80bbd176db2b22de0b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fdc3b9b1deecc5c7298","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q2d0b517ccdf8690d60c9","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":173,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-02T14:31:12.931Z","text":"[屏蔽词]丽娜他们不是免费律师吧？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5d5768bf4705284958ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d0b517ccdf8690d60c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d5768bf4705284958ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q8f7b1d2f45a1218555e6","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":174,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-02T14:51:04.145Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d0b517ccdf8690d60c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f7b1d2f45a1218555e6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d0b517ccdf8690d60c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q5ee2b0c36c41ed5d93e7","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":175,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T15:46:30.730Z","text":"你看瑞恩之前发的最新南区动议","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7a2a4ca7e606297603be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ee2b0c36c41ed5d93e7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a2a4ca7e606297603be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q4eb615816cfc6f35b327","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":176,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T15:46:43.165Z","text":"全都串起来才行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4eb615816cfc6f35b327","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qe5a5a7bf18dff799eedd","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":177,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-02T16:40:42.719Z","text":"屁酱自己农场的推不转，去转这个日本的“筹建”农场\n原来是这样，有些农场，已经开始站队屁酱，等着她上位后，可以优先分利益\n除了几届联盟换马甲，所在国农场，也可以换个马甲，继续骗\nhttps://x.com/toukuip82522t/status/2061818882055139500?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5a5a7bf18dff799eedd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q43ab60b250929249d05e","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":178,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-06-02T16:46:12.015Z","text":"🤣他们吃定老郭出不来的样子","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe5a5a7bf18dff799eedd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43ab60b250929249d05e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5a5a7bf18dff799eedd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q9ec1fd137c82a31c886f","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":179,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-02T16:46:45.581Z","text":"在赌","edited":false,"reply_to":"q43ab60b250929249d05e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ec1fd137c82a31c886f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43ab60b250929249d05e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qd25823024001c3b37c4a","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":180,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-02T16:47:21.278Z","text":"同时不忘摘桃郭的疫苗爆料","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd25823024001c3b37c4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q034ce2d89cbb7bb9aa4c","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":181,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-02T16:51:09.972Z","text":"郭成精神领袖，意志由他们继承\n郭最好一辈子蹲监狱别出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q034ce2d89cbb7bb9aa4c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q34d9717d1a0b858553d8","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":182,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-02T16:51:30.929Z","text":"我认真看完了这份 Ryan Bai 5月28日的新动议。整体来说，这是他目前写得比较成熟、结构最完整的一份文件之一。 \n\n先说结论：\n\n优点\n\n这次最大的变化是：\n\n他不再纠缠单一问题，而是把所有问题归纳成三个需要开听证会的主题（three issue categories）。\n\n即：\n\n1. 检方－受托人协调、733暴露出来的矛盾以及对量刑完整性的影响；\n2. 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检方知情部分。\n\n都有推论。\n\n但缺少：\n\nemail\n\nwitness\n\nsworn declaration\n\ndocumentary proof\n\n这种硬证据。\n\n因此法官最容易这样回答：\n\n这些属于推测（speculation）。\n\n不足以开 evidentiary hearing。\n\n⸻\n\n最难的一关\n\n其实不是Luc。\n\n而是：\n\nRule 32\n\nRyan试图利用 Rule 32(i)(3)(B)。\n\n他说：\n\n如果量刑依赖这些争议事实，\n\n法院必须先解决争议。\n\n这是全文法律上的支点。 \n\n问题在于：\n\nRule 32通常适用于：\n\n* 被告\n* 检方\n\n之间的量刑争议。\n\nRyan作为第三方受害人，\n\n能不能利用 Rule 32 要求听证，\n\n这是很新的打法。\n\n我没看到很多成功案例。\n\n所以理论上有创造性，\n\n但成功率并不高。\n\n⸻\n\n从你的角度看\n\n我觉得最值得注意的是最后一页。\n\nRyan专门引用了二巡的话：\n\n“which we trust the court will address expeditiously”\n\n然后要求：\n\n7天内上传本文件。 \n\n这实际上与你现在的26-1476形成了呼应。\n\n因为：\n\n* Ryan以前说文件被压；\n* 你现在已经让二巡正式立案；\n* Ryan现在再次要求SDNY上传文件。\n\n如果未来SDNY继续上传二巡文件，却长期不上传你们直接提交的文件，\n\n那么这个现象本身会越来越显眼。\n\n⸻\n\n我的总体评分：\n\n结构性：9/10\n\n比733更成熟。\n\n证据力：6/10\n\n逻辑链有了，但硬证据仍不足。\n\n对量刑产生实际影响：3/10\n\n法官专门为此开 evidentiary hearing 的概率不高。\n\n对记录保存（record preservation）的价值：8.5/10\n\n这一点反而很强。\n\n因为Ryan已经把：\n\n* 733\n* 4750\n* 青藤\n* remission\n* Fox Hunt\n* Luc\n\n全部正式连接到一个量刑前动议里了。 \n\n从记录保存（preservation of issues）角度，这份文件的价值比从表面看要大。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34d9717d1a0b858553d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qee4276fff007299f61dd","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":183,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-02T17:11:38.740Z","text":"https://x.com/patton0604/status/1554488836436402176?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4276fff007299f61dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qff2642a369221a960ae6","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":184,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T17:12:11.211Z","text":"这个你们可以之后跟上","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee4276fff007299f61dd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff2642a369221a960ae6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4276fff007299f61dd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q1258ba6cd05aa2d5c05b","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":185,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-02T17:15:18.195Z","text":"https://x.com/patton0604/status/1555204831459278849?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1258ba6cd05aa2d5c05b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qa118ac8b4a318af25d66","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":186,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-02T17:16:10.041Z","text":"他们居然代理中国公司的中国业务！我还以为他们只代理中国公司的美国业务","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee4276fff007299f61dd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa118ac8b4a318af25d66","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4276fff007299f61dd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q69c174e654f05693fa84","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":187,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T17:16:21.797Z","text":"老郭说了 国营企业","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa118ac8b4a318af25d66","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69c174e654f05693fa84","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa118ac8b4a318af25d66","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q744f6461df57b06a6743","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":188,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T17:16:27.523Z","text":"瑞恩强制令上去后 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