{"id":"batch-000115","number":115,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-06-01T12:28:11.440Z","date_end":"2026-06-05T06:43:04.716Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 115 (Jun 1, 2026 – Jun 5, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Jun 1 to Jun 5, 2026, participants dispute whether Wang’s forfeiture can reach third parties, whether U.S. arrest timing and appeal sequencing were lawful, and whether records labeled 853n/853i/700/848 are reliable evidence. They also split on CVRA victim status and on whether ties among Xi Exchange, HDO, and related accounts affect recovery priority. The thread alternates between bankruptcy-criminal court coordination and politicized claims about counsel and CCP influence; no court finding is treated as settled. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Starting point and timeline dispute: whether the Wang forfeiture can reach third parties and whether procedure is stable","description":"Participants argue that timing and jurisdictional sequencing are uncertain, especially around Wang’s forfeiture scope, the absence of U.S. arrest information, and why appeals were reportedly delayed after conviction. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qfcddc3d80c5ccd4a2aa0","q4f3ad47b00930bba2d18","q1db98dd9e027e809d573"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qfcddc3d80c5ccd4a2aa0","summary_en":"A participant argued that an incident involving 841 was likely a case where a Canadian farm operator withheld about 6 million Xibi investment funds and shifted blame to Xi Exchange, rather than evidence of a simple system failure. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4f3ad47b00930bba2d18","summary_en":"A participant asked why Wang waited to file an appeal until after Guo was sentenced, saying that if GTV had already been acquitted at verdict, an acquittal-based appeal should have been available earlier. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1db98dd9e027e809d573","summary_en":"A participant said they were watching who in justice circles had relatives or associates detained and claimed no U.S. information was available on U.S.-side arrests. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence authenticity and admissibility: whether 853n/853i/700/848 can support core allegations","description":"Participants claim the core conflict is evidentiary reliability, especially around 853n/853i/700/848 and whether particular materials can be used against primary charges. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0251b9d1f8132f438890","q435cdf0234931a1c9386","q7a2a4ca7e606297603be"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0251b9d1f8132f438890","summary_en":"A participant claimed that after Wang Y. Ping’s forfeiture, a cluster around 853n was seen as mostly created by Qingteng-linked actors. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q435cdf0234931a1c9386","summary_en":"A participant said another person associated with 853n stated Wang had no authority to consent to forfeiture and described that person as independent. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7a2a4ca7e606297603be","summary_en":"A participant asked whether Guo’s livestream could be used as admissible evidence to press a case against Luc. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim designation and restitution sequence: CVRA inclusion, fund flows, and priority of claims","description":"Participants contend the group is divided over which investors qualify as victims, how CVRA listing affects recovery, and whether priority should shift based on alleged evidence sharing and defense access. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0a49e9f36c885bf52c4d","qcfc64c1bbab77d95ffb8","q50a665c925b409b84c83"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0a49e9f36c885bf52c4d","summary_en":"A participant said the case appears split between prosecution and defense: the prosecution is said to lack recognized victims, while the defense has limited material and may have been given misleading documents while key evidence was kept back. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qcfc64c1bbab77d95ffb8","summary_en":"A participant claimed prosecutors recognize only a small set of roughly a dozen victims and do not accept the CVRA second-review list. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q50a665c925b409b84c83","summary_en":"A participant argued that defining certain people as 'Xi nationals' is being used to imply guilt, which they claim should disqualify those people from bringing third-party prosecutions. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Asset-responsibility chain dispute: Xi Exchange, HDO, Xi Coin, and related accounts treated as one system","description":"Participants dispute whether claims of a unified money chain among Xi Exchange, HDO, and related accounts are valid, and whether that structure determines who is harmed and how losses are prioritized. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q6b9ed5a2ae26cb47e1c9","q04dee0ea094f58e81bed","q532b51805d30af3a9fc5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6b9ed5a2ae26cb47e1c9","summary_en":"A participant said the prosecution is framing the loss amount as 1.4 billion. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q04dee0ea094f58e81bed","summary_en":"A participant argued that if an investor was defrauded at the platform, other participants should also be victims because there was no reserve backing, so the impact reaches broadly. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q532b51805d30af3a9fc5","summary_en":"A participant claimed that transfers through bank accounts tied to Xi Exchange are effectively treated as permissible by participants. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Bankruptcy court and criminal court in parallel: counsel appointment, seizure-forfeiture handoff, and judicial boundaries","description":"Participants argue the overlap between bankruptcy and criminal proceedings is contested, including who can seek trustee changes in which forum and how freeze/forfeiture actions are coordinated across courts. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q29a69c5afe3da321d683","q3c3b87d9996ba5791394","q64373c44c4bf3361298f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q29a69c5afe3da321d683","summary_en":"A participant described bankruptcy court groups including LUC and Wu Zheng creditor committee groups, an HCHK creditor committee group, and about 1,600 allegedly fake registrants. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3c3b87d9996ba5791394","summary_en":"A participant asked whether replacing the first bankruptcy trustee with Luc could be addressed in criminal court. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q64373c44c4bf3361298f","summary_en":"A participant noted that Ryan had raised the trustee replacement issue. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Prosecution, defense lawyers, and defendant ties: conspiracy claims, control concerns, and switching counsel","description":"Participants claim claims of judicial fraud and criminal conspiracy are linked to alleged counsel dependence, with some arguing defense representation is compromised while others note practical barriers to counsel substitution. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2b6c1321b01f69649c99","qc9e330a295ef43f168df","q34d3b70fdc5b011a8a3b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2b6c1321b01f69649c99","summary_en":"A participant added that, beyond judicial fraud allegations, the case is also treated as criminal conspiracy, described as an additional offense. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc9e330a295ef43f168df","summary_en":"A participant argued that counsel reviewing only Alliance-provided materials and not full files is abnormal, unless the attorney were being directed by a financier. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q34d3b70fdc5b011a8a3b","summary_en":"A participant said changing lawyers is not a simple or easy process. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Coordinated opinion environment: grid accounts and third-tier actors pushing a shared narrative","description":"Participants contend there is deliberate narrative coordination through funded accounts and recruitment channels, while others argue the posting patterns themselves show signs of orchestration or synthetic content. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4cdb66d7d920ec184b3e","qf602a16e6d3ac2694141","qe2086e7374473319c748"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4cdb66d7d920ec184b3e","summary_en":"A participant claimed named accounts were funded and split into about 4,000 grid posters, enabling mass reposting and likes whenever influential figures spoke. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf602a16e6d3ac2694141","summary_en":"A participant claimed the core propaganda team functions as a volunteer-reward network that lures people with promises of free tokens. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qe2086e7374473319c748","summary_en":"A participant claimed one piece of messaging appeared to be AI-composited or assembled content. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"External intervention and politicization: third-party prosecutions, system-control speculation, and 'control' narratives","description":"Participants dispute whether third-party prosecutions are being suppressed and whether broader political-control narratives explain tactical pauses, arrests, and counsel dynamics. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q55cb8ecf821d61904e97","qf76e3d4a20459fdc0804","qdeb24b84631916ad1de4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q55cb8ecf821d61904e97","summary_en":"A participant argued that some key group members are trying to suppress third-party prosecutions, so their own statements should be interpreted with skepticism. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf76e3d4a20459fdc0804","summary_en":"A participant claimed Guo may be waiting out counsel dysfunction, alleging that he suspects his defense lawyer is controlled and is hoping for third-party intervention. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qdeb24b84631916ad1de4","summary_en":"A participant claimed Guo’s arrests were linked to CCP influence over U.S. institutions, lawyers, and the judicial process, citing alleged corruption scale and arguing eventual internal U.S. self-cleansing will produce eventual justice. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Second review and next procedural nodes: delay, stay, dismissal, or appeal","description":"Participants contend that near-term strategy is reduced to a few procedural outcomes, with a 16-day window repeatedly cited and uncertainty over whether the path is delay, dismissal, in-court release, stay, or another review stage. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q61d6f4eefb90b18b4b25","q49f7d5f611fbc855b120","qff992d0cf8da2396a0be"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q61d6f4eefb90b18b4b25","summary_en":"A participant said there are options in addition to a stay. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q49f7d5f611fbc855b120","summary_en":"A participant said the case currently appears to have two main tracks—postponement, or dismissal in court with release—and said 16 working days remain. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qff992d0cf8da2396a0be","summary_en":"A participant said there may be a third possibility: a trial review path. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Group attribution fracture: support, victim identity, and emotional allegiance framing","description":"Participants dispute whether participants are acting as informed rights advocates or emotional bloc supporters, with accusations that investor recruitment and online allegiance are less rational than communal identity signaling. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q02a369ef44bb264a3f7d","q97a83b0fa1dbc3ee2f2c","q99acde37f40a57760fa9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q02a369ef44bb264a3f7d","summary_en":"A participant challenged others to decide whether they are proceeding with rational analysis or with emotional loyalty. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q97a83b0fa1dbc3ee2f2c","summary_en":"A participant criticized people who continue to follow Qing-side livestreams, comparing that behavior to cult-like dynamics. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q99acde37f40a57760fa9","summary_en":"A participant claimed Guo drew investors into the situation without prior preparation from most participants. Community statements, not court 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你们觉得郭案还能继续吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04199fce5ef0dcfd82a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qfd34e832907c4929169c","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":213,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-02T17:56:53.080Z","text":"可以，只要托雷斯顶住","edited":false,"reply_to":"q04199fce5ef0dcfd82a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd34e832907c4929169c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04199fce5ef0dcfd82a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q22b11684c174625fcc5d","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":214,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-02T17:57:09.500Z","text":"破产案估计就继续不了了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22b11684c174625fcc5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qf118766d4e9692d02500","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":215,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-02T17:57:38.868Z","text":"现在曼宁也该咬手指了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf118766d4e9692d02500","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q8261c94054c6dfb8a9df","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":216,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-02T17:57:39.044Z","text":"郭律师到现在都不敢提普恒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8261c94054c6dfb8a9df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q009aeb4bdb22662b4f5a","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":217,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T17:58:19.703Z","text":"托雷斯不可能给普衡顶这个雷","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd34e832907c4929169c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q009aeb4bdb22662b4f5a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd34e832907c4929169c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q80e767f5d6c73169ce32","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":218,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T17:58:37.425Z","text":"托雷斯连stay都怕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80e767f5d6c73169ce32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q300911ac795aa128c7f6","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":219,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-02T17:59:36.452Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 你们都有证据房间的权限，有证据直接发那里就可以了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q300911ac795aa128c7f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q17e3b7ceb2f80ae66a7b","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":220,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-06-02T18:11:51.234Z","text":"上面这些是不是都可以发给二巡记录一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17e3b7ceb2f80ae66a7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qfc356d8ea04e3767fa66","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":221,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T18:12:22.159Z","text":"你们之后都可以跟上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17e3b7ceb2f80ae66a7b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc356d8ea04e3767fa66","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17e3b7ceb2f80ae66a7b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q8f7235cc6c4b16863ee4","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":222,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T18:12:28.769Z","text":"瑞恩的先去打强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f7235cc6c4b16863ee4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qbd5e7d96298bb79a8d11","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":223,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-02T18:18:07.579Z","text":"这些就只纪录保存就可以了是吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd5e7d96298bb79a8d11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qfe7529229500f463c0a9","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":224,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T18:18:17.486Z","text":"可以先保存","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbd5e7d96298bb79a8d11","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe7529229500f463c0a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd5e7d96298bb79a8d11","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q4eeea0658bab0384a5b1","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":225,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-02T18:18:29.686Z","text":"好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4eeea0658bab0384a5b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q0f01d00681d716529ba2","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":226,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T18:18:36.683Z","text":"至于你们想怎么用 到时候再说 比如 stay","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f01d00681d716529ba2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q4c6c2897efd9f1a1f6f1","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":227,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T18:18:38.100Z","text":"可以用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c6c2897efd9f1a1f6f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q528ca82f978f34c64faa","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":228,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T18:18:51.469Z","text":"就是量刑前搞清楚luc身份 和loss 受害者计算的关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q528ca82f978f34c64faa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qc2be9ec4f14116e7cbb8","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":229,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-02T20:19:47.357Z","text":"请注意：作为AI，我无法代表您以法律顾问的身份撰写正式法律文件或代为提交法院备案。法律文件的准备具有高度的法律后果，建议您咨询专门从事美国联邦破产诉讼的律师。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2be9ec4f14116e7cbb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q4d1004889a214f1022c6","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":230,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T20:34:23.291Z","text":"文件700 有一个点 之前大家可能漏了 [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d1004889a214f1022c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q5e9b7be7b96acb11e2ab","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":231,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T20:36:04.531Z","text":"机器人分析 说卡马拉猪 承认律师和郭 沟通出现问题 看起来没怎么去jail","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e9b7be7b96acb11e2ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qed0aeea818dbaf92576e","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":232,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T20:36:11.987Z","text":"郭说律师基本的都没干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed0aeea818dbaf92576e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qf843dd5029bb26c66abb","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":233,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T20:36:23.011Z","text":"那律师这些材料是怎么整的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf843dd5029bb26c66abb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qc605b14a099133791ea5","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":234,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T20:36:34.534Z","text":"文件700基本就暗示了 联盟彻底绑架了律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc605b14a099133791ea5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qfa03e486e47b62dab1e4","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":235,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T20:42:30.717Z","text":"什么情况下 郭会说出：律师根本没有看过我的案卷 这样的话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa03e486e47b62dab1e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q5937046084b6df20a858","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":236,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T20:42:40.244Z","text":"那律师看的是谁的案卷","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa03e486e47b62dab1e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5937046084b6df20a858","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa03e486e47b62dab1e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qda90cd6fd1f4b6f63d75","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":237,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T20:42:46.451Z","text":"联盟农场的案卷","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5937046084b6df20a858","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda90cd6fd1f4b6f63d75","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5937046084b6df20a858","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q56a78ebc61de0e844d1a","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":238,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T20:59:31.038Z","text":"这段密封记录来看，最值得注意的其实不是郭文贵说了什么，而是：\n\n郭和律师团队之间已经出现了彻底的信任崩溃。\n\n而且这个崩溃发生在：\n    •    陪审团已经定罪；\n    •    量刑材料即将提交；\n    •    律师已经打完整个两个月庭审；\n\n之后。\n\n这在联邦刑事案里并不常见。\n\n⸻\n\n郭为什么会说“律师根本没看案卷”？\n\n正常逻辑有几种可能：\n\n第一种：被告输了以后认为律师打得太差\n\n这是最常见的。\n\n很多被告会觉得：\n    •    这个证人为什么不交叉询问？\n    •    那个证据为什么不反对？\n    •    那个证人为什么不上庭？\n\n然后得出结论：\n\n律师根本没研究案件。\n\n但律师可能研究了。\n\n只是战略不同。\n\n法官引用的那个案例：\n\nSixth Amendment does not guarantee a meaningful relationship.\n\n就是这个意思。\n\n法律保证有效辩护。\n\n不保证：\n\n被告觉得爽。\n\n⸻\n\n第二种：被告和律师对于案件本质认识完全不同\n\n这个比较接近郭这里的情况。\n\n看记录：\n\n郭第一个举例就是：\n\nTrustee Luc\n\n而不是：\n    •    股票证据；\n    •    银行流水；\n    •    录音录像；\n\n说明郭认为：\n\nLuc是整个案子的核心。\n\n而律师显然不这么认为。\n\n律师打的是：\n\n如何减少刑责。\n\n郭打的是：\n\n整个故事从源头就是假的。\n\n这其实是两个完全不同的案件。\n\n⸻\n\n为什么郭会特别执着Luc？\n\n从这份记录看得出来。\n\n郭说：\n\n最重要证人是Luc。\n\n但是：\n\nLuc从来没有作证。\n\n这说明郭一直认为：\n\n破产程序、Trustee、资产来源、债权人结构\n\n才是案件核心。\n\n而律师显然认为：\n\n陪审团阶段主要解决的是欺诈和洗钱。\n\n所以双方从根本上不在一个频道。\n\n⸻\n\n法官为什么明显站律师？\n\n因为法官非常少见地连续说：\n\n你找不到比他们更好的律师。\n\n甚至说：\n\n全国范围内都很难找到更强的律师。\n\n这其实是非常重的话。\n\n说明在法官眼里：\n\n问题不是律师能力。\n\n而是郭不接受律师的策略。\n\n⸻\n\n但有个细节很有意思\n\n法官问：\n\n你知道他们最适合量刑吗？\n\n郭回答：\n\nNot at all.\n\n非常坚决。\n\n这说明到了2024年12月：\n\n郭已经完全不相信原律师团队了。\n\n⸻\n\n从案件战略角度看\n\n如果郭当时真正相信：\n    •    Luc存在利益冲突；\n    •    Trustee体系有问题；\n    •    债权人结构有问题；\n    •    中国投资者身份有问题；\n\n那么他认为律师没碰这些问题，\n\n就会自然得出：\n\n他们根本没看我的案卷。\n\n这里的“案卷”不一定是字面意义上的没读文件。\n\n更可能是：\n\n他们没有研究我认为最重要的部分。\n\n⸻\n\n从正常联邦刑事案件来说\n\n出现这种情况通常意味着：\n\n被告已经不再把量刑视为重点。\n\n因为如果一个被告关注的是：\n\n怎么少判几年；\n\n他一般不会在量刑前6天炒掉全国顶级白领犯罪律师。\n\n而会尽量维持原团队。\n\n反过来，\n\n如果被告认为：\n\n整个案件从根子上错了；\n\n那么他就更容易和律师产生这种级别的冲突。\n\n所以从这份记录本身能看出的最强信号其实不是“律师有没有看案卷”，而是：\n\n郭和律师对于案件核心问题的理解已经完全分裂。\n\n律师关注的是如何在既有定罪基础上处理量刑。\n\n郭关注的是他认为整个案件的基础——包括Luc、破产体系、债权人和资产结构——是否存在根本问题。\n\n这两种思路在量刑前阶段往往很难同时兼容","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56a78ebc61de0e844d1a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q158dc5301628389c7be2","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":239,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T20:59:41.272Z","text":"老郭可能真的在等第三方","edited":false,"reply_to":"q56a78ebc61de0e844d1a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q158dc5301628389c7be2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56a78ebc61de0e844d1a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q55cb8ecf821d61904e97","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":240,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-02T21:38:13.560Z","text":"有道理！\n这也是[删节：成员身份]在此群疯狂打压第三方自诉的重点！\n他的话必须反着听！","edited":true,"reply_to":"q158dc5301628389c7be2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55cb8ecf821d61904e97","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q158dc5301628389c7be2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qb9224719d4f52a723959","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":241,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T21:42:27.089Z","text":"托雷斯在文件700告诉老郭 他的律师是最牛逼的 如果开除 接下去律师只会更烂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55cb8ecf821d61904e97","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9224719d4f52a723959","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55cb8ecf821d61904e97","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qb532f084ff1b2301acc2","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":242,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T21:42:38.179Z","text":"老郭表示清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb532f084ff1b2301acc2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q1093a898e503b27d30c3","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":243,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T21:42:47.474Z","text":"律师走不下去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1093a898e503b27d30c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q0412fb68924fbc2ff71d","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":244,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T21:43:31.406Z","text":"老郭很可能在等场外援助","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0412fb68924fbc2ff71d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q13a80e499884be0199b0","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":245,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-02T21:47:26.730Z","text":"你一开始还对新的律师抱有期待和幻想。我也是。在写第一个自诉前我跟三个律师先后发了四个电子邮件，情真意切，他们根本就不理我。\n只有[删节：成员身份]那个大SB会演戏，在MDC前跟辨方律师胡说一通","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1093a898e503b27d30c3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13a80e499884be0199b0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1093a898e503b27d30c3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q4fca54bf634022fb3f1f","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":246,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-02T22:26:45.077Z","text":"那又如何呢？这是不是美国司法的漏洞，被告完全被辩护律师左右，而辩护律师又没人监控，很容易被蓝金黄？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q56a78ebc61de0e844d1a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fca54bf634022fb3f1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56a78ebc61de0e844d1a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q46743327fbee10e48401","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":247,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-02T22:27:30.917Z","text":"还有一个问题，这次辩方律师依旧没有理700提到的东西，被告为什么不再次换律师？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46743327fbee10e48401","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q34d3b70fdc5b011a8a3b","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":248,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T22:31:57.061Z","text":"换律师不是这么容易的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46743327fbee10e48401","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34d3b70fdc5b011a8a3b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46743327fbee10e48401","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qcb8e7f551ea61d0316c1","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":249,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T22:32:14.818Z","text":"定罪到量刑 有机会换","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb8e7f551ea61d0316c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qb467858496bab3112795","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":250,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T22:32:23.783Z","text":"但一个程序没结束 换就很难","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb467858496bab3112795","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q66f899cb82a4d00f4aad","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":251,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-02T22:35:57.168Z","text":"香草山诉SARA的案件号有人知道吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66f899cb82a4d00f4aad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qf71b87a3d9bccba310e3","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":252,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T22:38:33.194Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf71b87a3d9bccba310e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q3fe232e2175f63dfc103","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":253,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-02T22:55:28.112Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fe232e2175f63dfc103","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q0a49e9f36c885bf52c4d","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":254,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-03T00:33:33.553Z","text":"意思就是 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要爱青联盟 听话 \n王案量刑后，听青的安排，要钱都要同意remission，庭上没人反对没收forfeiture","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0265e37745b9e66676f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q18f419ada9f5df1ca4e2","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":259,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-03T00:46:42.629Z","text":"郭案定罪后，喜国人要配合律师，用853n去要钱，但被青联盟的假表，骗成853i","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18f419ada9f5df1ca4e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q55bf0eedd352956387b5","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":260,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-03T00:53:42.704Z","text":"跟着青的节奏，投资者基本都成了853i的身份，是检方口中的“受害者”，退款时候，因为不是CVRA，更不是853n，庭上没地位，只能排末尾等remission\n而青那帮人，估计在破产案都登记了债权人，刑事案没收的G系列，都会优先拿给破产案，给PAG 农场主们","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55bf0eedd352956387b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"q8e233cc32e88017e4868","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":261,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-03T00:54:14.564Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a49e9f36c885bf52c4d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e233cc32e88017e4868","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a49e9f36c885bf52c4d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115"},{"id":"qe6eac0b7795d0835b907","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":262,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-03T00:58:32.681Z","text":"通过700，说明对于ACA 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