{"id":"batch-000116","number":116,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-06-05T06:44:02.852Z","date_end":"2026-06-10T01:33:17.659Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 116 (Jun 5, 2026 – Jun 10, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions centered on two main tracks: assets and fund flows, alongside judicial procedures and individual accountability. Debates over migrating exchanges, frozen assets, matched trading liabilities, and forfeiture criteria showed sharp divergence between pursuing rigid evidentiary confrontations and pragmatic loss-mitigation actions. Sharp divisions also emerged regarding whether Luc, third-party standing, and key witnesses belong in the core criminal dispute, while arguments over victim standing, pro se representation, and movement mythologizing further exposed strategic fractures across procedural and organizational lines.","guide_en":[{"title":"Second Circuit Procedural Disputes: Subpoenas, Injunctions, Continuances, Re-Denials, and Submission Timing","description":"Participants debate procedural mechanics in the Second Circuit, discussing subpoena rules, filing fees, and the potential impact of witness depositions.","message_ids":["qf33d490c6c671d783c64","q99bec611ab7409b054ce","q5e14bb5cc3fb4f1e09cc","q1858db80b531da91ca84","q600ba4243d1333564efd","qac9de0265d0b0dfab0b3","q3313de2990564460f857","q4548b1ef167f5c6244af","qf08148a103a1c15d5ea8"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf33d490c6c671d783c64","summary_en":"hel*** relays a question asking which institutions require fees and how check payees should be designated."},{"message_id":"q99bec611ab7409b054ce","summary_en":"reb*** contends that intervening in an already existing case does not require paying fees."},{"message_id":"q5e14bb5cc3fb4f1e09cc","summary_en":"sar*** describes how pro se submissions to the Southern District are free by email or mail, whereas the Second Circuit charges a $600 injunction fee that can be waived using an IFP form."},{"message_id":"q1858db80b531da91ca84","summary_en":"sar*** notes an inability to open a shared file and requests a PDF conversion."},{"message_id":"q600ba4243d1333564efd","summary_en":"ntp*** suggests finding a translator to overcome language obstacles."},{"message_id":"qac9de0265d0b0dfab0b3","summary_en":"ntp*** adds jokingly that a lack of money prevents hiring professional translation help."},{"message_id":"q3313de2990564460f857","summary_en":"kir*** argues that all of these matters must be brought into the Second Circuit."},{"message_id":"q4548b1ef167f5c6244af","summary_en":"roy*** contends that if individuals who gave PAX depositions testified that the evidence was falsified, the entire case could be overturned."},{"message_id":"qf08148a103a1c15d5ea8","summary_en":"kir*** asserts that the issues were presented in an improper manner."}]},{"title":"Asset Freezes and Recovery Boundaries: Exchange Migration, Frozen Asset Ownership, Forfeiture, and Victim Restitution Paths","description":"Participants dispute how frozen assets should be handled, evaluating exchange transitions and the relationship between bankruptcy and criminal proceedings.","message_ids":["q1fea2cac143e6e8ae2ea","q21981240836a3293a3ea","q4115b9a2c86fefe7ee6c","q63af43ce258016e9b4cb","q32c15b72f9d22165781a","q1008b32ebd74984ef012","qbea6ad68c3b3490c9d82","qf77643dd3a8e79e6b957","qdb94ba6c345536210d5b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1fea2cac143e6e8ae2ea","summary_en":"joh*** argues that responsibility rests with Himalaya Exchange because it possesses user rosters and runs on a private chain."},{"message_id":"q21981240836a3293a3ea","summary_en":"get*** asks whether changing exchanges means token trading will resume and inquires about the status of Hpay."},{"message_id":"q4115b9a2c86fefe7ee6c","summary_en":"joh*** acknowledges having little clarity regarding the operational status of Hpay."},{"message_id":"q63af43ce258016e9b4cb","summary_en":"joh*** contends that funds deposited directly through the exchange can easily be traced among frozen assets."},{"message_id":"q32c15b72f9d22165781a","summary_en":"joh*** contends that the connection tying the bankruptcy case to the criminal case was never properly explained."},{"message_id":"q1008b32ebd74984ef012","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that the criminal prosecution utilized fabricated evidence originating from the bankruptcy proceeding."},{"message_id":"qbea6ad68c3b3490c9d82","summary_en":"joh*** contends that both cases relied on circular reasoning to support each other."},{"message_id":"qf77643dd3a8e79e6b957","summary_en":"joh*** argues that these two legal situations represent completely distinct matters."},{"message_id":"qdb94ba6c345536210d5b","summary_en":"joh*** contends that as long as Guo refuses to plead guilty, Luc cannot obtain the assets."}]},{"title":"Matched Trading and Fund Chain Accountability: Reconciliation of Alliance Transfers and Sufficiency of Ledgers for Liability","description":"Participants debate whether internal ledgers and matched trading records can support legal accountability against the Alliance.","message_ids":["qb8da93b64c5970e3424e","q50aa39e9eca8dbd99cae","q3b8358b7d42e435f5762","q77397b72bac1307b0686","q6b1527d9f4881bca9b4e","q86999c1ef479f008cf26","qfd8ec11329cce7414398","qe6215702e3956dd07114","q834d611377d8b2de2ce6"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qb8da93b64c5970e3424e","summary_en":"joh*** inquires whether the transactions at issue involved matched trading."},{"message_id":"q50aa39e9eca8dbd99cae","summary_en":"get*** questions what accounting records could possibly remain to be reconciled."},{"message_id":"q3b8358b7d42e435f5762","summary_en":"get*** describes how participants engaged in both direct wire transfers and matched trades."},{"message_id":"q77397b72bac1307b0686","summary_en":"joh*** contends that the Alliance holds blame and must be sued, though matched trades cannot easily be calculated."},{"message_id":"q6b1527d9f4881bca9b4e","summary_en":"get*** expresses doubt about the feasibility of an individual personally suing the Alliance."},{"message_id":"q86999c1ef479f008cf26","summary_en":"get*** argues that litigating for years over several tens of thousands of HDO would drag on endlessly."},{"message_id":"qfd8ec11329cce7414398","summary_en":"get*** emphasizes that those funds were transferred directly to the Alliance."},{"message_id":"qe6215702e3956dd07114","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that insiders pocketed real dollars from low-cost quotas while selling $80 matched Himalaya Coins to retail buyers, keeping these off-exchange funds excluded from government seizure totals."},{"message_id":"q834d611377d8b2de2ce6","summary_en":"joh*** contends that Gettr operating expenses were never funded by veteran chairs, asserting the scheme mirrored past legal fee solicitations."}]},{"title":"Dispute over Luc and Key Third Parties: Relevance to Criminal Issues and Subpoena Demands","description":"Participants dispute whether bankruptcy trustee Luc Despins belongs at the center of the criminal case and whether third parties have standing to subpoena him.","message_ids":["q52af423ea2fa798d6565","q55b5209e949c3d7733a2","q4007fb9fed3175d50a72","qbb8482bead9c4251375a","qbe6abb97c94fc1b6afa8","q4bdedd8a2cabba87fc58","q69e64a3e8c124c4fd52b","q98e3c2b6bee6d6f49e72","q466b4647d86cb097df77"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q52af423ea2fa798d6565","summary_en":"hel*** advocates focusing collective energy on taking down Luc and forcing him to appear as a witness in court."},{"message_id":"q55b5209e949c3d7733a2","summary_en":"kir*** asserts that Luc represents the primary core issue."},{"message_id":"q4007fb9fed3175d50a72","summary_en":"kir*** contends that defense counsel refused to pursue arguments regarding Luc in Document 700."},{"message_id":"qbb8482bead9c4251375a","summary_en":"kir*** mentions having limited proficiency in English."},{"message_id":"qbe6abb97c94fc1b6afa8","summary_en":"ntp*** contends that third parties possess no legal authority to subpoena Luc."},{"message_id":"q4bdedd8a2cabba87fc58","summary_en":"mrz*** shares a draft prayer for relief requesting a court inquiry into conflicts involving Luc A. Despins, Paul Hastings LLP, the replacement of trustee Joe D. Whitley under Bankruptcy Dkt. 498, PAG/PAX, and Fox Hunt matters."},{"message_id":"q69e64a3e8c124c4fd52b","summary_en":"mrz*** describes focusing filings on ties between Luc, Paul Hastings, Chinese state enterprises, and PAX, alongside Fox Hunt operations, DOJ personnel corruption, and the replacement of trustee Joe D. Whitley under Bankruptcy Dkt. 498."},{"message_id":"q98e3c2b6bee6d6f49e72","summary_en":"ntp*** contends that nobody in court pays attention to claims brought by third parties."},{"message_id":"q466b4647d86cb097df77","summary_en":"mrz*** contends that the court fears mentions of George Higginbotham and DOJ corruption, while prosecutors fear mentions of Luc."}]},{"title":"Legal Strategy Divergence: Pro Se Filings, Class Action Standing, CVRA Rights, and Evidentiary Timelines","description":"Participants debate whether victims should pursue pro se interventions, class actions, or court motions against Alliance leadership.","message_ids":["q5a94453afdcc1a627864","qdf0c433e700af0653400","q2918f7a87a6ed9a0b2c4","q4950f61c929ceb997b9a","q6f73ff3737e1a719fb9d","qf35ef3e7f6d5477ae5ca","q5719a31cad53ce5212ca","q1e8bf6e84906e57174cd"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5a94453afdcc1a627864","summary_en":"joh*** argues that legal action should target the Alliance entities that collected funds on suspected money-laundering grounds."},{"message_id":"qdf0c433e700af0653400","summary_en":"joh*** suggests waiting to see how Guo resolves matters after his release, noting compensation might occur through other avenues."},{"message_id":"q2918f7a87a6ed9a0b2c4","summary_en":"joh*** advises that the simplest approach is joining the existing case pro se without incurring attorney expenses."},{"message_id":"q4950f61c929ceb997b9a","summary_en":"joh*** predicts future class-action lawsuits, referencing Long Island's litigation against Lihong Wei as a potential model."},{"message_id":"q6f73ff3737e1a719fb9d","summary_en":"get*** disputes the value of class actions, contending that litigation exhausts funds over years and leaves nothing to recover even upon winning."},{"message_id":"qf35ef3e7f6d5477ae5ca","summary_en":"mrz*** argues that proceeding with filings at least establishes an official record of the court ignoring third-party claims."},{"message_id":"q5719a31cad53ce5212ca","summary_en":"him*** suggests filing a formal motion if members are dissatisfied with both figures."},{"message_id":"q1e8bf6e84906e57174cd","summary_en":"him*** urges escalating the matter directly before the court."}]},{"title":"Deification Debates and Identity Politics: Polarization Around Supporter, Traitor, and Pseudo-Dissident Labels","description":"Participants discuss the internal culture of the movement, debating the deification of leadership and the ostracization of critical members.","message_ids":["q48685e44d015c0bfa438","q12340a53eb8ce630b981","q93e6d705e341acea093d","q15ef48efe474e29bc0d3","q33537b291f643c4e3145","qe784cce25a9cbcece964","q2b97baa024f349c5ba68","q16361a943f536c230265","q76c21a9c6d5c6c7bde54"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q48685e44d015c0bfa438","summary_en":"joh*** agrees with the stance that Guo should not be deified."},{"message_id":"q12340a53eb8ce630b981","summary_en":"joh*** contends that individuals who idolize Guo do so purely to exploit him."},{"message_id":"q93e6d705e341acea093d","summary_en":"cin*** remarks that it is difficult to determine how capable Guo truly is."},{"message_id":"q15ef48efe474e29bc0d3","summary_en":"cin*** contends that regardless of whether actions are framed as strategic maneuvering, Guo's conduct amounts to continuous falsehoods."},{"message_id":"q33537b291f643c4e3145","summary_en":"joh*** argues that labeling critics as pseudo-dissidents frames legitimate questioning as an attack on the Whistleblower Movement and institutional disloyalty."},{"message_id":"qe784cce25a9cbcece964","summary_en":"joh*** describes this labeling as an adoption of century-old CCP united front tactics."},{"message_id":"q2b97baa024f349c5ba68","summary_en":"ntp*** contends that opponents controlled the entire Whistleblower Movement from the beginning, isolating Guo as a figurehead while supporters lived inside a fabricated illusion."},{"message_id":"q16361a943f536c230265","summary_en":"mia*** argues that structures where only uplines make money while downlines suffer losses exhibit pyramid scheme characteristics and resemble a cult."},{"message_id":"q76c21a9c6d5c6c7bde54","summary_en":"him*** disputes that assessment, stating it is not necessarily true."}]},{"title":"Victim Standing and Paths of Action: Confrontation, Concurrent Motions, or Inaction Amid Representation Splits","description":"Participants debate whether victims should actively intervene in court or wait for Guo, assessing the Alliance's advice against independent legal steps.","message_ids":["qc47a680d0f5915451b6e","q6bac99628ef686e7c15b","q8acc49f221099ccfb34f","q70e9aa6d54acd3af2999","qfd01e83cd5a6e80f8551","q795924fce36b3d2e1904","qaaadceb3da17c3a22411","q3d8cb54554d6da546ec3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qc47a680d0f5915451b6e","summary_en":"joh*** remarks that remaining in the group at least allows members to see a glimmer of hope."},{"message_id":"q6bac99628ef686e7c15b","summary_en":"joh*** cautions members against holding excessively high expectations."},{"message_id":"q8acc49f221099ccfb34f","summary_en":"joh*** suggests this outcome could properly extinguish everyone's notions of taking down the CCP."},{"message_id":"q70e9aa6d54acd3af2999","summary_en":"joh*** advises participants to concentrate on personal reform and rebuilding their daily lives."},{"message_id":"qfd01e83cd5a6e80f8551","summary_en":"joh*** contends that the Alliance telling harmed investors not to take legal action demonstrates either foolishness or deliberate misconduct."},{"message_id":"q795924fce36b3d2e1904","summary_en":"mrz*** insists that no excuses should be made, recounting that Guo declared on live streams that he would win even without a single fellow fighter."},{"message_id":"qaaadceb3da17c3a22411","summary_en":"joh*** states that nobody would involve themselves in this mess if investor funds had not been lost."},{"message_id":"q3d8cb54554d6da546ec3","summary_en":"him*** argues that if participants take no action, Guo will simply have won entirely on his own."}]},{"title":"Fund Structures and Recovery Formulas: Disputes over MOS, Maywind, and Potential Double Recovery","description":"Participants analyze Arizona court records involving MOS and Maywind, arguing over whether litigation produced improper double recovery for leadership.","message_ids":["q529a739c94499ba0dc44","qfbc5ba605b565d91d8d2","qf8fb9ec5cda0bcd8b8b3","q162faa314bc602933462","q72b577872e5087eaa4be","qcab2d68fd0940f6510c4","qd739a7fbc17a882c77f4","q4ae1786520340bf5100b","qf810c9d31950504ddc3a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q529a739c94499ba0dc44","summary_en":"reb*** quotes court filings Doc. 151 p. 3, Doc. 103 p. 2, and Doc. 84 p. 13 to describe how the court ruled that single-member entity MOS lacked standing to recover losses for unnamed third parties, arguing that the litigation served to block real investors from seeking recovery."},{"message_id":"qfbc5ba605b565d91d8d2","summary_en":"reb*** notes that the bankruptcy case is based in Connecticut and inquires whether Guo's daughter litigated against Luc from EDNY up to the Second Circuit."},{"message_id":"qf8fb9ec5cda0bcd8b8b3","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that Xia was only owed around $4 million sent by MOS but received over $8 million in settlement, while authorized investors were turned away with excuses about frozen funds."},{"message_id":"q162faa314bc602933462","summary_en":"reb*** questions whether genuine cash investors were far fewer than the 6,000 cited by Gale, hypothesizing that many names were phantom accounts overlapping with GTV and G-Club buyers."},{"message_id":"q72b577872e5087eaa4be","summary_en":"spr*** questions whether anyone actually paid $80 for Himalaya Coins given that the peak price reached only around $50."},{"message_id":"qcab2d68fd0940f6510c4","summary_en":"spr*** disputes that buyers would pay such extreme premiums when matched transactions ordinarily follow prevailing market rates."},{"message_id":"qd739a7fbc17a882c77f4","summary_en":"joh*** explains that $50 was the official exchange price using HDO to buy HCN, whereas $80 was paid in over-the-counter matched trades at an off-exchange premium."},{"message_id":"q4ae1786520340bf5100b","summary_en":"beg*** recounts from Arizona filings Doc. 157 p. 11 line 25 and p. 8 line 18 that MOS transferred $4,050,000 to Maywind while Xia recovered $8,136,288.58 through other courts, noting the judge highlighted double recovery concerns before awarding $4,550,000 against Wei."},{"message_id":"qf810c9d31950504ddc3a","summary_en":"beg*** calculates whether Maywind received $27.15 million in total investor funds, leaving around $6 million retained by Wei after transfers to ACA Capital and Xia."}]},{"title":"Judicial Fairness and Bias Allegations: Questions of Judicial Overreach and Shared Silence on Key Issues","description":"Participants dispute whether the court and prosecutors acted impartially, alleging prosecutorial vulnerabilities and shared silence regarding key actors.","message_ids":["q3e583c95d29f8cf76476","q41a76b424ad51c2c1859","qd0aeadf4ab1b5bfe1e4f","qf68923a2018a76967110","q20022954a4762512636f","q87cf14b9638b87afb50f","q4c078e44b091b460c229","q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3e583c95d29f8cf76476","summary_en":"joh*** contends that the defense sacrificing Qing was merely the initial step following external pressure."},{"message_id":"q41a76b424ad51c2c1859","summary_en":"joh*** argues that to avoid judicial fraud accusations surrounding the Mahwah agreement, prosecutors will eventually be forced to abandon Luc as appellate pressure mounts."},{"message_id":"qd0aeadf4ab1b5bfe1e4f","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that prosecutors, defense attorneys, and Qing were collaboratively putting on a show against Guo."},{"message_id":"qf68923a2018a76967110","summary_en":"him*** notes that following Guo's arrest on Mar 15, the subsequent Gettr post was actually published by the Alliance."},{"message_id":"q20022954a4762512636f","summary_en":"ntp*** points out that final decision-making power still rests with Judge Torres."},{"message_id":"q87cf14b9638b87afb50f","summary_en":"kir*** argues that the Second Circuit would not repeatedly leave procedural openings if it did not credit their position."},{"message_id":"q4c078e44b091b460c229","summary_en":"spr*** contends that other farms did not remit money to Maywind because funds were retained locally."},{"message_id":"q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d","summary_en":"beg*** recounts that Second Circuit filings accepted for thirteen individuals raised Paul Hastings' Beijing office conflicts, political motivations, Southern District misconduct, and alleged prosecutorial collusion with Luc."}]},{"title":"Power and Organizational Governance Narratives: Conflicts over Anti-CCP Objectives and Resource Priorities","description":"Participants debate whether the movement's overarching political objectives justify personal autocracy and dispute whether resource acquisition should precede governance reform.","message_ids":["q882ece254f759771eaf1","q9d90db915c513f277e7a","qf46af166c11d34947dad","q96487529d06a31c06421","q0b08acf1e24a9cb942fe","q66ae9c2e198950f83abd","q020484740e1b083e4f96","q30d2357023cf2293bcd0"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q882ece254f759771eaf1","summary_en":"cin*** argues that blaming CCP interference for GTV's failure contains a logical flaw, noting Guo realistically failed to deliver results under prevailing conditions."},{"message_id":"q9d90db915c513f277e7a","summary_en":"cin*** uses the analogy of a boxer who claims guaranteed victory despite getting knocked out first to illustrate that subsequent excuses contradict assertions of certainty."},{"message_id":"qf46af166c11d34947dad","summary_en":"cin*** remarks ironically that claims of Guo inevitably defeating the CCP fall apart because the CCP dismantled him first."},{"message_id":"q96487529d06a31c06421","summary_en":"him*** questions what societal conditions will look like after the regime's eventual collapse."},{"message_id":"q0b08acf1e24a9cb942fe","summary_en":"him*** contends that relying entirely on a single person like Guo would merely recreate another autocracy."},{"message_id":"q66ae9c2e198950f83abd","summary_en":"him*** asks rhetorically whether Donald Trump's actual capability even matters."},{"message_id":"q020484740e1b083e4f96","summary_en":"him*** remarks ironically that regardless of whether democracy is genuine or fabricated, it would still be labeled a democracy."},{"message_id":"q30d2357023cf2293bcd0","summary_en":"reb*** questions who will have the standing to divide the tens of trillions accumulated by the CCP in a post-CCP 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\n想想这个，就明白了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8e436e377fe57b44c4b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce8a6a42fe2878a98104","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8e436e377fe57b44c4b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q6dcbd30a2aa1f3749cc1","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":221,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T12:39:54.446Z","text":"青没这个钱，只能是他背后的老板","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dcbd30a2aa1f3749cc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q5a5f741cd1822ff8469b","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":222,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T12:40:40.844Z","text":"不关盖特，是要抢话语权，给自己服务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a5f741cd1822ff8469b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe764216b3edae7f07381","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":223,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-05T12:41:10.832Z","text":"Follow the money, follow nfsc","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce8a6a42fe2878a98104","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe764216b3edae7f07381","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce8a6a42fe2878a98104","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q306b8e900b3279e00cc7","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":224,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T12:41:47.181Z","text":"屁酱哪来的底气，去第三梯队？\n说明是一个老板嘛\n至于谁上位，屁酱一厢情愿，没用","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe764216b3edae7f07381","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q306b8e900b3279e00cc7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe764216b3edae7f07381","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qb041347bbaf7178c5db3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":225,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T12:47:34.592Z","text":"投奔她的网格员，待遇肯定没青那里好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb041347bbaf7178c5db3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q435e266d590afe8ed5a1","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":226,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T12:47:47.067Z","text":"屁酱的转发越来越少了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q435e266d590afe8ed5a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qfb8d8ae21203802c9ad3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":227,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T12:48:23.310Z","text":"又不可能再发币，割韭菜，没油水了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb8d8ae21203802c9ad3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q0f340288fdb1f16c94de","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":228,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T12:50:12.168Z","text":"之前买了喜币的网格员，怕是更愿意郭出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f340288fdb1f16c94de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q2528a1491ef4410f2856","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":229,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T12:50:25.014Z","text":"重启了还有致富可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2528a1491ef4410f2856","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q192b2dd01dfc2a8c9646","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":230,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T12:51:04.176Z","text":"跟着屁酱的喜国混，只能一天饿三顿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q192b2dd01dfc2a8c9646","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q3e7b337f7caacab293d6","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":231,"speaker":"lou***","date":"2026-06-05T12:59:34.226Z","text":"青砸盘嫁祸给郭，但是发币公司法人是青，而且这家公司被收购后包括起诉权也被收购。青应该是被套路了，偷鸡不成蚀把米","edited":false,"reply_to":"q835a53b5cb91cbbfe750","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e7b337f7caacab293d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q835a53b5cb91cbbfe750","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q8dd4173056d028cff211","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":232,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T13:01:33.491Z","text":"这叫投名状","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e7b337f7caacab293d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dd4173056d028cff211","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e7b337f7caacab293d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q7d407bbb431a251946fb","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":233,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T13:02:04.630Z","text":"给他那个秘书长的称号，代价是要当公司法人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d407bbb431a251946fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qdfb3c4abe27be52509e6","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":234,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T13:02:39.732Z","text":"出事要扛雷\n不然青不会那么卖力表演","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfb3c4abe27be52509e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","b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也是够了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1ce6f3161b759e08f47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd3409273c2e530edfa34","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":240,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-05T13:46:23.556Z","text":"老郭還能保住小命，已經很不容易了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3409273c2e530edfa34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q5eea8241577d0936fa50","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":241,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T13:54:08.278Z","text":"南区可以考虑，把螺丝哥传唤过去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q938d7ae44cd3cdb82c2c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5eea8241577d0936fa50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q387141c364d102c0335b","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":242,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-05T14:17:18.907Z","text":"异想天开啊。\n南区的托雷斯最恨螺丝哥。\n想象一下如果她传唤他会是怎样的情景。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5eea8241577d0936fa50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q387141c364d102c0335b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5eea8241577d0936fa50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qa03e4ff13d3080179bcf","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":243,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-05T14:21:00.916Z","text":"螺丝哥开场白：马勒戈壁\n翻译：WTF","edited":false,"reply_to":"q387141c364d102c0335b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa03e4ff13d3080179bcf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q387141c364d102c0335b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q040b94036d8d386c6b57","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":244,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-05T14:31:46.103Z","text":"诉讼有时限限制的，当然是在这个案子直接把他们拉进来更好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4950f61c929ceb997b9a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q040b94036d8d386c6b57","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4950f61c929ceb997b9a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q17acdcfae48972692e66","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":245,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-05T14:32:43.785Z","text":"引用 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lao***］ \n看这个","edited":true,"reply_to":"q89f247a6dbd2d61e2842","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc19d1692dc7279b34391","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89f247a6dbd2d61e2842","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q43d0101cc258c7775856","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":266,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-06T03:52:09.189Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2063106591361208413?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43d0101cc258c7775856","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q3967543fa40b1d3c1a6e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":267,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-06T03:57:35.102Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2063107905789063617?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3967543fa40b1d3c1a6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qfdd61be2ee29ad5b0a9c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":268,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-06T04:12:26.942Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2063111695019733421?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdd61be2ee29ad5b0a9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qea431e9768b4bedbd3fe","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":269,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-06T04:16:28.922Z","text":"谁没有被联盟农场那些头头拉黑，你们可以去找他们谈谈这个话题！问问他们是不是真的爱他们的战友！为什么不帮被抓的投资者呼吁!如果他们不知道谁被抓，他们就是骗子造谣有人被抓!","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea431e9768b4bedbd3fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q8f25d0db94b661971892","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":270,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-06T04:21:08.883Z","text":"https://x.com/zilshng2016377/status/2062943056375193738?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f25d0db94b661971892","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qb49588c621ed1ba06b80","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":271,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-06T04:24:29.458Z","text":"检方目前为止有没有正式承认过 这个案子里有853n第三方的存在？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb49588c621ed1ba06b80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q2b97baa024f349c5ba68","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":272,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-06T05:35:33.191Z","text":"整个爆料革命自始至终都被灭爆操控，郭和支持者们被他们隔离开，郭只是个牌位，他的支持者们活在灭爆捏造的幻觉里","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf868782c50c85ad33039","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b97baa024f349c5ba68","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qbaf96bdf9addf132e4e0","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":273,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-06T05:35:44.921Z","text":"没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb49588c621ed1ba06b80","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbaf96bdf9addf132e4e0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb49588c621ed1ba06b80","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qda4725e2eb3877c15872","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":274,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-06-06T05:38:39.364Z","text":"豪车公司？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda4725e2eb3877c15872","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc53099810485b4197787","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":275,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-06T05:46:22.362Z","text":"不敢放开853的口子，现在大概都知道853是能要钱的了，一放开这点受害者全跑过来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc53099810485b4197787","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q329bb864a6d182c8f2bf","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":276,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T08:30:18.154Z","text":"https://x.com/lhcychchvk4567/status/2057003434193387919?s=4","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q329bb864a6d182c8f2bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q4872151a0b5201b52115","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":277,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-06-06T08:55:29.729Z","text":"https://x.com/g_music7/status/2063169095214776697?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4872151a0b5201b52115","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q5494e0b9a771f5500698","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":278,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T09:00:07.694Z","text":"这是干扰试听 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要求南区研究","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6530f39dca6720ba751c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe94124798cef4657219c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":285,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-06T09:13:03.633Z","text":"开听证会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe94124798cef4657219c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qaa3418788adff75c4fe6","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":286,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-06-06T09:13:43.788Z","text":"可是很多人提了这个要求，他们没任何动静","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7f12238773b5145bfb06","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa3418788adff75c4fe6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f12238773b5145bfb06","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf08148a103a1c15d5ea8","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":287,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-06T09:14:00.555Z","text":"提的方式不对","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa3418788adff75c4fe6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf08148a103a1c15d5ea8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa3418788adff75c4fe6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q32c15b72f9d22165781a","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":288,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T09:35:26.247Z","text":"没有把破产案怎么牵连刑事案，说清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf08148a103a1c15d5ea8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32c15b72f9d22165781a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf08148a103a1c15d5ea8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q1008b32ebd74984ef012","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":289,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T09:35:51.073Z","text":"刑事案又用破产案的假证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1008b32ebd74984ef012","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qbea6ad68c3b3490c9d82","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":290,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T09:36:26.036Z","text":"两个案子互相循环论证","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbea6ad68c3b3490c9d82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qda858157efc1963c9e1d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":291,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-06T09:42:52.479Z","text":"被告自己说的有可信度吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3313de2990564460f857","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda858157efc1963c9e1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3313de2990564460f857","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q938dd6f02f81e413ea26","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":292,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T09:48:52.799Z","text":"到目前為止，這個案子所有要點郭文貴都視頻告訴你們了。\n不管是LUC，PAX，吳証，司法部腐敗，所有的利益衝突，郭文貴都視頻裡面說了。\n\n最應該去問郭文貴，他都這麼清楚了，為什麼還不出手。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q938dd6f02f81e413ea26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q8dc87fac2068d0065cb9","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":293,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-06T09:49:14.387Z","text":"很简单 出不了手","edited":false,"reply_to":"q938dd6f02f81e413ea26","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dc87fac2068d0065cb9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q938dd6f02f81e413ea26","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q89142b9ee1ac3978faaa","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":294,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T09:51:23.858Z","text":"郭文貴都這麼牛逼了，他應該能自救的。\n郭文貴立的人設，這麼就把自己作死了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89142b9ee1ac3978faaa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q073b3b69b9fb81e2c20c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":295,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-06T09:52:12.906Z","text":"郭文贵的人设都是在监狱外立的 一旦进入美国司法内部 郭文贵也就是个废物","edited":false,"reply_to":"q89142b9ee1ac3978faaa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q073b3b69b9fb81e2c20c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89142b9ee1ac3978faaa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q18c41a8db4fe068bbe87","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":296,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T09:54:06.560Z","text":"所以，也不用怪任何人，郭文貴給傻子裡的人設就是這樣了，傻子眼裡郭文貴就是無敵的。\n要怪就怪郭文貴自己好了，自己作死","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18c41a8db4fe068bbe87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q92b542def04f6dc18cfa","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":297,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T09:55:24.445Z","text":"至少從南區法庭，到二巡法庭，大家的思路都是基於郭文貴的視頻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92b542def04f6dc18cfa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q06fb14fb2f3aba8e45cf","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":298,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T09:55:24.735Z","text":"说的没错 活该","edited":false,"reply_to":"q18c41a8db4fe068bbe87","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06fb14fb2f3aba8e45cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18c41a8db4fe068bbe87","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qaaadceb3da17c3a22411","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":299,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T09:56:26.676Z","text":"要不是投资者的钱被坑进去了，谁愿意管这档子破事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaaadceb3da17c3a22411","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qce912babc1ae6ac4dae0","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":300,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T09:57:38.291Z","text":"郭文貴也是自己吹成了神，而且傻子都信了；所有的爛仔也是郭文貴自己發現的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce912babc1ae6ac4dae0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q46676aba6ba35d4b46e3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":301,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-06-06T09:57:55.157Z","text":"搞不懂他要干嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46676aba6ba35d4b46e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd76cde7d635bd7aecc17","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":302,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T09:59:07.031Z","text":"你們也不用怪傻子們都不去法庭。都是郭文貴自己作的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd76cde7d635bd7aecc17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q405014dfb88c31c2a359","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":303,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T10:00:22.620Z","text":"还有很多人配合他演戏","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd76cde7d635bd7aecc17","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q405014dfb88c31c2a359","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd76cde7d635bd7aecc17","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q82e86186960aef3a211c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":304,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T10:00:41.020Z","text":"配合好的，喜币就赚了大钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82e86186960aef3a211c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qce548e82c51ccd419499","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":305,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T10:01:06.784Z","text":"你的個人動機很好，很能給自己打氣衝二巡。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce548e82c51ccd419499","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q2d9ff8f69c670dbbb33b","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":306,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T10:03:35.121Z","text":"而且，郭文貴自己說的，不管老班長在爆料革命裡做了什麼，都不會讓他走的。\n言下之意，老班長貪污，偷喜幣，偷大家的錢，都可以。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d9ff8f69c670dbbb33b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qeb0d006bb73eace20d73","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":307,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T10:05:58.735Z","text":"郭文貴自己說的，愛七哥，就是要信七哥，對七哥有信心。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb0d006bb73eace20d73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q73a09c2cb8c38dcde903","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":308,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T10:07:01.180Z","text":"祛魅","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb0d006bb73eace20d73","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73a09c2cb8c38dcde903","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb0d006bb73eace20d73","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qa4229cd02c0d5d8aee9e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":309,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T10:07:07.427Z","text":"这点做不到，又是个人崇拜，下一个法轮功","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4229cd02c0d5d8aee9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q5bb743e9c91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\nhttps://x.com/toukuip82522t/status/2062890226192675242?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccdfbf0ad0fc5cc4f947","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q8818648839cb58b2d036","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":324,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-06T11:08:10.946Z","text":"突然发现，盖特app的图标，已经不是自由女神的火炬。看上去像一个锅炉上燃着火。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8818648839cb58b2d036","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q18a5b2dc2235d174f93e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":325,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:14:08.897Z","text":"盖特的运营费，出自哪里\n哪里就有话语权\n班农肯定明白，青背后代表的是哪派势力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8818648839cb58b2d036","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18a5b2dc2235d174f93e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8818648839cb58b2d036","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q685dbfca3554d8838a7e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":326,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T11:14:59.198Z","text":"AI說的，不知道是真的還是假的？有人能解答到嗎？🙏👍","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q685dbfca3554d8838a7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q9bfc17efd65e47ec071e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":327,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:16:40.395Z","text":"登记分什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q685dbfca3554d8838a7e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bfc17efd65e47ec071e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q685dbfca3554d8838a7e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qee7e14b4c35cf029ceb7","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":328,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T11:17:05.404Z","text":"是否只有在破產法院登記名册上的受害人，未來才有資格拿回自己的投資款？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee7e14b4c35cf029ceb7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf77643dd3a8e79e6b957","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":329,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:17:22.122Z","text":"两码事","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee7e14b4c35cf029ceb7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf77643dd3a8e79e6b957","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee7e14b4c35cf029ceb7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q0f7621b160d774de37d7","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":330,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:17:59.607Z","text":"前提是，破产案luc能拿到刑事案的冻结资产","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f7621b160d774de37d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qdb94ba6c345536210d5b","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":331,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:19:07.503Z","text":"郭不认罪，luc没法拿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb94ba6c345536210d5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q19ff9adaa6efb3456fb9","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":332,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T11:19:15.270Z","text":"Luc是政府司法部指定的受托人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19ff9adaa6efb3456fb9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q37655a392f0841653e60","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":333,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:19:30.757Z","text":"有屁用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19ff9adaa6efb3456fb9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37655a392f0841653e60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19ff9adaa6efb3456fb9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qb6655b4893664f80c664","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":334,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:20:08.148Z","text":"让王认罪，同意没收，luc才能在郭没认罪情况下，接触到G系列\n针对郭，也是preliminary forfeiture","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6655b4893664f80c664","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qa0c232f0bc2531caa0d5","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":335,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T11:21:28.726Z","text":"那太好啦！NND這個Luc花錢如流水，再不幹掉他，錢都被他一點點拿走了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb94ba6c345536210d5b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0c232f0bc2531caa0d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb94ba6c345536210d5b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q718818e284b7880eea3a","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":336,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T11:22:11.597Z","text":"原來這樣，謝謝🙏解說[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb6655b4893664f80c664","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q718818e284b7880eea3a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6655b4893664f80c664","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q444a54ffc48636e05ffe","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":337,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:22:46.052Z","text":"郭这边是 预没收，不是正式\nluc 检方 一直催量刑，就是这个目的\n量刑后，luc之前的瞎B做法，都合法了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q444a54ffc48636e05ffe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q3fcdf8cc657aeb636d18","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":338,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T11:23:49.496Z","text":"但是如果真的量刑了，那Luc就可以把戰友們的投資錢拿走了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fcdf8cc657aeb636d18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q0f752e292bd9957e8e1d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":339,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:24:01.425Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3fcdf8cc657aeb636d18","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f752e292bd9957e8e1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fcdf8cc657aeb636d18","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q7a1894ce022085359f46","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":340,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T11:24:28.613Z","text":"😓","edited":false,"reply_to":"q444a54ffc48636e05ffe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a1894ce022085359f46","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q444a54ffc48636e05ffe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd2f75f770c07e9cd3e5d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":341,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:24:29.160Z","text":"即使郭上诉，但是luc已经用的钱，追不回来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2f75f770c07e9cd3e5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qdc9c32dc8583722acaf2","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":342,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-06T11:25:50.716Z","text":"https://dm.epiq11.com/case/htt/info\nCounsel to Genever Entities\nNeubert, Pepe & Montieth, P.C.\n195 Church Street, 13th Floor\nNew Haven, CT 06510\nwww.npmlaw.com\nAttn:\nDouglas S. Skalka\nPatrick R. Linsey\nGoldberg Weprin Finkel Goldstein LLP\n1501 Broadway, 22nd Floor\nNew York, NY 10036\nwww.gwfglaw.com\nAttn:\nJ. Ted Donovan\nKevin J. Nash, Esq.\n\nChapter 11 Trustee Counsel\nPaul Hastings LLP\n200 Park Avenue\nNew York, NY 10166\nwww.paulhastings.com\nAttn:\nLuc A. Despins\nNeubert, Pepe & Montieth, P.C.\n195 Church Street, 13th Floor\nNew Haven, CT 06510\nwww.npmlaw.com\nAttn:\nDouglas S. Skalka\nPatrick R. Linsey\n为什么破产案里，原告和被告都用这个：\nNeubert, Pepe & Montieth, P.C.\n195 Church Street, 13th Floor\nNew Haven, CT 06510\nwww.npmlaw.com\nAttn:\nDouglas S. Skalka\nPatrick R. Linsey","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc9c32dc8583722acaf2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q233ae1827c78b11a1d37","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":343,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T11:28:41.635Z","text":"除非發生奇蹟（程序性的錯誤，不然，老郭起碼50年以上","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd2f75f770c07e9cd3e5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q233ae1827c78b11a1d37","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2f75f770c07e9cd3e5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q1331c70f55f721c2b14a","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":344,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-06T11:29:22.908Z","text":"破产案里，郭强是重头戏，就是对着家族基金去的。在美国全输，出了美国全赢。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1331c70f55f721c2b14a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf5f6f900f79de53e4a4e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":345,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-06T11:30:39.472Z","text":"要是郭家族在破产案最后输了，什么罗斯柴尔德，什么摩根，什么洛克菲勒，都可以按这个模式搞。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5f6f900f79de53e4a4e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q41cba448b42578fdc641","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":346,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:32:54.412Z","text":"破产案曼宁，怕是还没明白，郭案的分量","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf5f6f900f79de53e4a4e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41cba448b42578fdc641","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5f6f900f79de53e4a4e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q2b09fa7ff90679a6a73b","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":347,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:33:20.952Z","text":"刑事案托雷斯，肯定发现自己进了火坑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b09fa7ff90679a6a73b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc8e3dc34ba456ac8c710","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":348,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:38:17.462Z","text":"luc在破产案横行习惯了，没想到刑事案吃了憋","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8e3dc34ba456ac8c710","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd3cfa69a283495f13992","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":349,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T11:46:19.986Z","text":"郭赢不等于你赢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q795924fce36b3d2e1904","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3cfa69a283495f13992","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q795924fce36b3d2e1904","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd9197c4374bc5a383769","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":350,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T11:46:56.326Z","text":"你跟了爆料革命这么多年，不想赢？你就想等着郭自己赢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9197c4374bc5a383769","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q236b28bff54bb8602f74","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":351,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T11:47:16.121Z","text":"然后你浪费了9年时间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q236b28bff54bb8602f74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qed61a5fc03dab9d7e30e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":352,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T11:48:08.858Z","text":"不过大部份人都是韭菜，浪费时间是正常的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed61a5fc03dab9d7e30e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qbeb417aa95d75c67ef1f","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":353,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:52:09.076Z","text":"安小东 大[屏蔽词] 还在捧她盖尔爹\nhttps://x.com/anxiaodong777/status/2063150917436776748?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbeb417aa95d75c67ef1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qef90c2738a6131f1db51","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":354,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T11:54:20.918Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 其实看得到，郭强和郭美的案子，这几年一直是在进行中\n青联盟，一直避开谈这部分信息\n估计是不想把注意力，引到破产案luc","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef90c2738a6131f1db51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q819d62854f4574e0cebd","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":355,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T12:02:21.201Z","text":"說得對，你是為了自己不做韭菜，你想贏一把，你要加油幹。\n這也算是不錯的動機","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q819d62854f4574e0cebd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc4bad1d8b2d584490239","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":356,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-06-06T12:09:35.622Z","text":"郭说过的那么多好话，结果就是他自己赢？所有人都输？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3cfa69a283495f13992","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4bad1d8b2d584490239","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3cfa69a283495f13992","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q8aa628a366d3d444f73d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":357,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:10:26.072Z","text":"螺丝哥应该看得懂一些\n郭眼里不止是这6000投资者","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4bad1d8b2d584490239","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aa628a366d3d444f73d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4bad1d8b2d584490239","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q3d8cb54554d6da546ec3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":358,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:10:43.617Z","text":"你啥也不干的话，那就是郭自己赢了呗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4bad1d8b2d584490239","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d8cb54554d6da546ec3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4bad1d8b2d584490239","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe7ffc9c8a27dc94e34c5","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":359,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:11:00.236Z","text":"郭给你机会赢，你不去做，那怪谁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7ffc9c8a27dc94e34c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q4480006e82b457812624","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":360,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:11:59.946Z","text":"1万投资者，5%就是500人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8aa628a366d3d444f73d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4480006e82b457812624","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aa628a366d3d444f73d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe09ca369389fcf82fd22","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":361,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-06-06T12:12:17.904Z","text":"我现在都还记得郭直播说要拯救几千万党员呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d8cb54554d6da546ec3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe09ca369389fcf82fd22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d8cb54554d6da546ec3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q40c7f370a8639019bf3d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":362,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:12:31.872Z","text":"救个屁\n只能自己救自己","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe09ca369389fcf82fd22","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40c7f370a8639019bf3d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe09ca369389fcf82fd22","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q65340e5370ee9fae2bfd","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":363,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:13:15.675Z","text":"现在看起来有50人，不是5%，是0.5%","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65340e5370ee9fae2bfd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q9cad7c445d9d03fadae3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":364,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:13:15.695Z","text":"打疫苗，不就是例子\n你去劝别人，别人不信，反而骂你\n经过这个事，很多问题想明白了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cad7c445d9d03fadae3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q13d9581c514fb2159a42","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":365,"speak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从个人投资的角度看，目前投资人的确损失惨重。但是 1）老郭的初心是为了拉穷战友，让他们也富有， 不知道老郭直播/内容前， 除非你八辈祖宗冒青烟，要不然你能有机会参与GTV初创做原始股东的机会？2）没有老郭， 你知道韭菜、中共不等于中国人这个概念？ 3）共匪从郭2017年爆料开始的不可一世，到现在的人人喊打， 就凭郭的直播的力量， 为什么？ 民心！事实！真相！人心向郭 ！ 4）有些人太小瞧爆料革命投资的战友了 - 身在国内被迫害的战友说，如果因为灭共我损失了一点钱，我愿意。5）参与了法律诉讼的投资人，👍， 但是现在不是终点，对于郭来说，也不是终点，最后谁输谁赢，还未知","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13d9581c514fb2159a42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q34639dacf68e1d33abe3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":366,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-06T12:19:05.620Z","text":"共匪用一个国家的力量，对付一个人， 老郭过去4年是一个人战两个国家， 他现在还活着， 就是一个奇迹","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34639dacf68e1d33abe3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q73c18457bdaf51cc9fdf","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":367,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-06T12:22:37.861Z","text":"发牢骚可以， 有用吗？ \n另外G系列如果没有共匪的破坏，你是不是已经赚翻了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73c18457bdaf51cc9fdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q7747992f5888a07e92d3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":368,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-06T12:23:26.085Z","text":"那些100多参与了法律诉讼的，才是老郭要找的5%","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7747992f5888a07e92d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qa462087bde76fd555064","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":369,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-06-06T12:23:31.317Z","text":"真正让很多人不理解的是，郭的灭共计划，他说的和现实情况差距那么大，投资损失是被灭共期望放大的，本身损失不算啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13d9581c514fb2159a42","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa462087bde76fd555064","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13d9581c514fb2159a42","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qfb528833ab988ad2169d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":370,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T12:26:37.300Z","text":"不是因為你八辈祖宗冒青烟，才有了GTV投資機會。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb528833ab988ad2169d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q70b88899164d69d9478d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":371,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-06T12:27:16.965Z","text":"跟一个从来没有参与爆料革命的人聊天， 她说： 没有永远的政权， 中国历史已经证明了。过去的皇上叫天子， 哪个天子都死球蛋了， 他们的王朝也覆灭了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70b88899164d69d9478d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe7333f1035df40b9bf71","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":372,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T12:28:59.072Z","text":"不要說什麼因為郭文貴，你才沒打疫苗，你需要感恩。\n很多人沒打疫苗，不是因為郭文貴。\n需要別人感恩才做的好事，也不算什麼好事。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7333f1035df40b9bf71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q48685e44d015c0bfa438","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":373,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:29:56.703Z","text":"懂你的意思\n不能神话郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe7333f1035df40b9bf71","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48685e44d015c0bfa438","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7333f1035df40b9bf71","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q0b97295e145ef791f5b2","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":374,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T12:30:03.509Z","text":"需要你回覆的無視，就不是無視。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b97295e145ef791f5b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc1c6612ea92c187304a6","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":375,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-06-06T12:30:21.143Z","text":"投资是要乘以灭共情况的，就算投资亏损，但是只要灭共看的到希望，投资真的是可以忽略的，问题是灭共情况不太好的样子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73c18457bdaf51cc9fdf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c6612ea92c187304a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73c18457bdaf51cc9fdf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q882ece254f759771eaf1","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":376,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-06T12:30:53.653Z","text":"插句话。。。这个逻辑有个问题啊 咱假说 是gtv一定赚翻郭百分百能做到  只是因为共匪破坏  但是。。。它破坏了啊 转过这个弯子没  郭做不到中共不破坏的前提下  实现他那套 这不是事实嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73c18457bdaf51cc9fdf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q882ece254f759771eaf1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73c18457bdaf51cc9fdf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q70715b8c9f47290f4658","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":377,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-06T12:31:45.048Z","text":"也可能是我盲目乐观？ 我这么看到灭共的形势越来越好的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1c6612ea92c187304a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70715b8c9f47290f4658","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c6612ea92c187304a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q9d90db915c513f277e7a","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":378,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-06T12:31:50.456Z","text":"打个傻瓜比方  你说你百分百擂台上能ok我 只不过我每次都先一拳把你撂倒了。。。这是个脑筋急转弯逻辑啊 后一句把前一句隐藏否定了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d90db915c513f277e7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf46af166c11d34947dad","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":379,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-06T12:33:00.234Z","text":"郭百分百能灭共  只可惜共把他灭了。。。转过来没","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf46af166c11d34947dad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf1dc64fc1ea702929d36","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":380,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-06T12:33:18.869Z","text":"灭了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf46af166c11d34947dad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1dc64fc1ea702929d36","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf46af166c11d34947dad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q87be9a5aeec9a80acbb6","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":381,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-06-06T12:33:20.365Z","text":"🤣 我是用郭说过的计划目标和实际情况对比的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70715b8c9f47290f4658","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87be9a5aeec9a80acbb6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70715b8c9f47290f4658","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q6a4420c45b1595938a32","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":382,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-06T12:33:49.202Z","text":"咱别抬杠 我这个意思大家明白吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a4420c45b1595938a32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q12340a53eb8ce630b981","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":383,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:35:43.157Z","text":"不神话他\n神话他的，是要利用他","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a4420c45b1595938a32","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12340a53eb8ce630b981","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a4420c45b1595938a32","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf04dd63ad6ed93582e9f","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":384,"speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-06-06T12:37:30.640Z","text":"大家參與的動機都不一樣：\n1. 一戰成名\n2. 祖上冒青煙\n3. 為了自己贏一把","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf04dd63ad6ed93582e9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe4961b26105dd8d6f7a9","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":385,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:38:19.620Z","text":"中共作为一个专制肯定会灭亡，nfsc那些人也知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70b88899164d69d9478d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4961b26105dd8d6f7a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70b88899164d69d9478d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q96487529d06a31c06421","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":386,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:38:30.534Z","text":"关键是灭亡之后，会怎样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96487529d06a31c06421","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q4bb1effbe32dbd5cec9c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":387,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:38:46.717Z","text":"你想让nfsc那些人接管中国吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bb1effbe32dbd5cec9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qefb833aac7957eafbc4c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":388,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:40:38.575Z","text":"中国要走向真正的民主法治，只靠郭文贵一个人够吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefb833aac7957eafbc4c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q0b08acf1e24a9cb942fe","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":389,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:40:55.700Z","text":"只靠郭一个人，那不就又是另外一个专制吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b08acf1e24a9cb942fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q76d8828bbb7300e616e7","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":390,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:41:58.702Z","text":"Nfsc那群人这种嘴脸，何德何能？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76d8828bbb7300e616e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qb008ee414c4a6f5011f9","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":391,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:43:25.132Z","text":"现在在国外的这些民运人士，这些人能接管中国吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb008ee414c4a6f5011f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q93e6d705e341acea093d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":392,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-06T12:44:01.074Z","text":"说白了 郭到底有多大能耐 很难讲的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93e6d705e341acea093d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qb47e9a67a33983a477a0","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":393,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:44:50.177Z","text":"明白早的，不会all in","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93e6d705e341acea093d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb47e9a67a33983a477a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93e6d705e341acea093d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q12afba1f95f1f8d61202","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":394,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:44:50.214Z","text":"美国是靠川普一个人吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93e6d705e341acea093d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12afba1f95f1f8d61202","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93e6d705e341acea093d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q66ae9c2e198950f83abd","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":395,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:45:01.334Z","text":"川普有没有能耐，重要吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66ae9c2e198950f83abd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q73071f57c3125c52ef78","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":396,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-06T12:45:07.244Z","text":"说的好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q34639dacf68e1d33abe3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73071f57c3125c52ef78","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34639dacf68e1d33abe3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q8200cc6c22f2aa0d2586","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":397,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:45:08.365Z","text":"川普是圣人吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8200cc6c22f2aa0d2586","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qbc9f167cd3f35cf43a65","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":398,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:45:21.568Z","text":"川普需要有很大能耐吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc9f167cd3f35cf43a65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qb677165917ef1527cde4","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":399,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-06T12:45:30.939Z","text":"这段总结的好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13d9581c514fb2159a42","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb677165917ef1527cde4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13d9581c514fb2159a42","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q5d167e9d0187064ec55d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":400,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:45:31.802Z","text":"为什么要指望郭？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d167e9d0187064ec55d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000115","next_batch_id":"batch-000117"}