{"id":"batch-000116","number":116,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-06-05T06:44:02.852Z","date_end":"2026-06-10T01:33:17.659Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 116 (Jun 5, 2026 – Jun 10, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions centered on two main tracks: assets and fund flows, alongside judicial procedures and individual accountability. Debates over migrating exchanges, frozen assets, matched trading liabilities, and forfeiture criteria showed sharp divergence between pursuing rigid evidentiary confrontations and pragmatic loss-mitigation actions. Sharp divisions also emerged regarding whether Luc, third-party standing, and key witnesses belong in the core criminal dispute, while arguments over victim standing, pro se representation, and movement mythologizing further exposed strategic fractures across procedural and organizational lines.","guide_en":[{"title":"Second Circuit Procedural Disputes: Subpoenas, Injunctions, Continuances, Re-Denials, and Submission Timing","description":"Participants debate procedural mechanics in the Second Circuit, discussing subpoena rules, filing fees, and the potential impact of witness depositions.","message_ids":["qf33d490c6c671d783c64","q99bec611ab7409b054ce","q5e14bb5cc3fb4f1e09cc","q1858db80b531da91ca84","q600ba4243d1333564efd","qac9de0265d0b0dfab0b3","q3313de2990564460f857","q4548b1ef167f5c6244af","qf08148a103a1c15d5ea8"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf33d490c6c671d783c64","summary_en":"hel*** relays a question asking which institutions require fees and how check payees should be designated."},{"message_id":"q99bec611ab7409b054ce","summary_en":"reb*** contends that intervening in an already existing case does not require paying fees."},{"message_id":"q5e14bb5cc3fb4f1e09cc","summary_en":"sar*** describes how pro se submissions to the Southern District are free by email or mail, whereas the Second Circuit charges a $600 injunction fee that can be waived using an IFP form."},{"message_id":"q1858db80b531da91ca84","summary_en":"sar*** notes an inability to open a shared file and requests a PDF conversion."},{"message_id":"q600ba4243d1333564efd","summary_en":"ntp*** suggests finding a translator to overcome language obstacles."},{"message_id":"qac9de0265d0b0dfab0b3","summary_en":"ntp*** adds jokingly that a lack of money prevents hiring professional translation help."},{"message_id":"q3313de2990564460f857","summary_en":"kir*** argues that all of these matters must be brought into the Second Circuit."},{"message_id":"q4548b1ef167f5c6244af","summary_en":"roy*** contends that if individuals who gave PAX depositions testified that the evidence was falsified, the entire case could be overturned."},{"message_id":"qf08148a103a1c15d5ea8","summary_en":"kir*** asserts that the issues were presented in an improper manner."}]},{"title":"Asset Freezes and Recovery Boundaries: Exchange Migration, Frozen Asset Ownership, Forfeiture, and Victim Restitution Paths","description":"Participants dispute how frozen assets should be handled, evaluating exchange transitions and the relationship between bankruptcy and criminal proceedings.","message_ids":["q1fea2cac143e6e8ae2ea","q21981240836a3293a3ea","q4115b9a2c86fefe7ee6c","q63af43ce258016e9b4cb","q32c15b72f9d22165781a","q1008b32ebd74984ef012","qbea6ad68c3b3490c9d82","qf77643dd3a8e79e6b957","qdb94ba6c345536210d5b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1fea2cac143e6e8ae2ea","summary_en":"joh*** argues that responsibility rests with Himalaya Exchange because it possesses user rosters and runs on a private chain."},{"message_id":"q21981240836a3293a3ea","summary_en":"get*** asks whether changing exchanges means token trading will resume and inquires about the status of Hpay."},{"message_id":"q4115b9a2c86fefe7ee6c","summary_en":"joh*** acknowledges having little clarity regarding the operational status of Hpay."},{"message_id":"q63af43ce258016e9b4cb","summary_en":"joh*** contends that funds deposited directly through the exchange can easily be traced among frozen assets."},{"message_id":"q32c15b72f9d22165781a","summary_en":"joh*** contends that the connection tying the bankruptcy case to the criminal case was never properly explained."},{"message_id":"q1008b32ebd74984ef012","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that the criminal prosecution utilized fabricated evidence originating from the bankruptcy proceeding."},{"message_id":"qbea6ad68c3b3490c9d82","summary_en":"joh*** contends that both cases relied on circular reasoning to support each other."},{"message_id":"qf77643dd3a8e79e6b957","summary_en":"joh*** argues that these two legal situations represent completely distinct matters."},{"message_id":"qdb94ba6c345536210d5b","summary_en":"joh*** contends that as long as Guo refuses to plead guilty, Luc cannot obtain the assets."}]},{"title":"Matched Trading and Fund Chain Accountability: Reconciliation of Alliance Transfers and Sufficiency of Ledgers for Liability","description":"Participants debate whether internal ledgers and matched trading records can support legal accountability against the Alliance.","message_ids":["qb8da93b64c5970e3424e","q50aa39e9eca8dbd99cae","q3b8358b7d42e435f5762","q77397b72bac1307b0686","q6b1527d9f4881bca9b4e","q86999c1ef479f008cf26","qfd8ec11329cce7414398","qe6215702e3956dd07114","q834d611377d8b2de2ce6"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qb8da93b64c5970e3424e","summary_en":"joh*** inquires whether the transactions at issue involved matched trading."},{"message_id":"q50aa39e9eca8dbd99cae","summary_en":"get*** questions what accounting records could possibly remain to be reconciled."},{"message_id":"q3b8358b7d42e435f5762","summary_en":"get*** describes how participants engaged in both direct wire transfers and matched trades."},{"message_id":"q77397b72bac1307b0686","summary_en":"joh*** contends that the Alliance holds blame and must be sued, though matched trades cannot easily be calculated."},{"message_id":"q6b1527d9f4881bca9b4e","summary_en":"get*** expresses doubt about the feasibility of an individual personally suing the Alliance."},{"message_id":"q86999c1ef479f008cf26","summary_en":"get*** argues that litigating for years over several tens of thousands of HDO would drag on endlessly."},{"message_id":"qfd8ec11329cce7414398","summary_en":"get*** emphasizes that those funds were transferred directly to the Alliance."},{"message_id":"qe6215702e3956dd07114","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that insiders pocketed real dollars from low-cost quotas while selling $80 matched Himalaya Coins to retail buyers, keeping these off-exchange funds excluded from government seizure totals."},{"message_id":"q834d611377d8b2de2ce6","summary_en":"joh*** contends that Gettr operating expenses were never funded by veteran chairs, asserting the scheme mirrored past legal fee solicitations."}]},{"title":"Dispute over Luc and Key Third Parties: Relevance to Criminal Issues and Subpoena Demands","description":"Participants dispute whether bankruptcy trustee Luc Despins belongs at the center of the criminal case and whether third parties have standing to subpoena him.","message_ids":["q52af423ea2fa798d6565","q55b5209e949c3d7733a2","q4007fb9fed3175d50a72","qbb8482bead9c4251375a","qbe6abb97c94fc1b6afa8","q4bdedd8a2cabba87fc58","q69e64a3e8c124c4fd52b","q98e3c2b6bee6d6f49e72","q466b4647d86cb097df77"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q52af423ea2fa798d6565","summary_en":"hel*** advocates focusing collective energy on taking down Luc and forcing him to appear as a witness in court."},{"message_id":"q55b5209e949c3d7733a2","summary_en":"kir*** asserts that Luc represents the primary core issue."},{"message_id":"q4007fb9fed3175d50a72","summary_en":"kir*** contends that defense counsel refused to pursue arguments regarding Luc in Document 700."},{"message_id":"qbb8482bead9c4251375a","summary_en":"kir*** mentions having limited proficiency in English."},{"message_id":"qbe6abb97c94fc1b6afa8","summary_en":"ntp*** contends that third parties possess no legal authority to subpoena Luc."},{"message_id":"q4bdedd8a2cabba87fc58","summary_en":"mrz*** shares a draft prayer for relief requesting a court inquiry into conflicts involving Luc A. Despins, Paul Hastings LLP, the replacement of trustee Joe D. Whitley under Bankruptcy Dkt. 498, PAG/PAX, and Fox Hunt matters."},{"message_id":"q69e64a3e8c124c4fd52b","summary_en":"mrz*** describes focusing filings on ties between Luc, Paul Hastings, Chinese state enterprises, and PAX, alongside Fox Hunt operations, DOJ personnel corruption, and the replacement of trustee Joe D. Whitley under Bankruptcy Dkt. 498."},{"message_id":"q98e3c2b6bee6d6f49e72","summary_en":"ntp*** contends that nobody in court pays attention to claims brought by third parties."},{"message_id":"q466b4647d86cb097df77","summary_en":"mrz*** contends that the court fears mentions of George Higginbotham and DOJ corruption, while prosecutors fear mentions of Luc."}]},{"title":"Legal Strategy Divergence: Pro Se Filings, Class Action Standing, CVRA Rights, and Evidentiary Timelines","description":"Participants debate whether victims should pursue pro se interventions, class actions, or court motions against Alliance leadership.","message_ids":["q5a94453afdcc1a627864","qdf0c433e700af0653400","q2918f7a87a6ed9a0b2c4","q4950f61c929ceb997b9a","q6f73ff3737e1a719fb9d","qf35ef3e7f6d5477ae5ca","q5719a31cad53ce5212ca","q1e8bf6e84906e57174cd"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5a94453afdcc1a627864","summary_en":"joh*** argues that legal action should target the Alliance entities that collected funds on suspected money-laundering grounds."},{"message_id":"qdf0c433e700af0653400","summary_en":"joh*** suggests waiting to see how Guo resolves matters after his release, noting compensation might occur through other avenues."},{"message_id":"q2918f7a87a6ed9a0b2c4","summary_en":"joh*** advises that the simplest approach is joining the existing case pro se without incurring attorney expenses."},{"message_id":"q4950f61c929ceb997b9a","summary_en":"joh*** predicts future class-action lawsuits, referencing Long Island's litigation against Lihong Wei as a potential model."},{"message_id":"q6f73ff3737e1a719fb9d","summary_en":"get*** disputes the value of class actions, contending that litigation exhausts funds over years and leaves nothing to recover even upon winning."},{"message_id":"qf35ef3e7f6d5477ae5ca","summary_en":"mrz*** argues that proceeding with filings at least establishes an official record of the court ignoring third-party claims."},{"message_id":"q5719a31cad53ce5212ca","summary_en":"him*** suggests filing a formal motion if members are dissatisfied with both figures."},{"message_id":"q1e8bf6e84906e57174cd","summary_en":"him*** urges escalating the matter directly before the court."}]},{"title":"Deification Debates and Identity Politics: Polarization Around Supporter, Traitor, and Pseudo-Dissident Labels","description":"Participants discuss the internal culture of the movement, debating the deification of leadership and the ostracization of critical members.","message_ids":["q48685e44d015c0bfa438","q12340a53eb8ce630b981","q93e6d705e341acea093d","q15ef48efe474e29bc0d3","q33537b291f643c4e3145","qe784cce25a9cbcece964","q2b97baa024f349c5ba68","q16361a943f536c230265","q76c21a9c6d5c6c7bde54"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q48685e44d015c0bfa438","summary_en":"joh*** agrees with the stance that Guo should not be deified."},{"message_id":"q12340a53eb8ce630b981","summary_en":"joh*** contends that individuals who idolize Guo do so purely to exploit him."},{"message_id":"q93e6d705e341acea093d","summary_en":"cin*** remarks that it is difficult to determine how capable Guo truly is."},{"message_id":"q15ef48efe474e29bc0d3","summary_en":"cin*** contends that regardless of whether actions are framed as strategic maneuvering, Guo's conduct amounts to continuous falsehoods."},{"message_id":"q33537b291f643c4e3145","summary_en":"joh*** argues that labeling critics as pseudo-dissidents frames legitimate questioning as an attack on the Whistleblower Movement and institutional disloyalty."},{"message_id":"qe784cce25a9cbcece964","summary_en":"joh*** describes this labeling as an adoption of century-old CCP united front tactics."},{"message_id":"q2b97baa024f349c5ba68","summary_en":"ntp*** contends that opponents controlled the entire Whistleblower Movement from the beginning, isolating Guo as a figurehead while supporters lived inside a fabricated illusion."},{"message_id":"q16361a943f536c230265","summary_en":"mia*** argues that structures where only uplines make money while downlines suffer losses exhibit pyramid scheme characteristics and resemble a cult."},{"message_id":"q76c21a9c6d5c6c7bde54","summary_en":"him*** disputes that assessment, stating it is not necessarily true."}]},{"title":"Victim Standing and Paths of Action: Confrontation, Concurrent Motions, or Inaction Amid Representation Splits","description":"Participants debate whether victims should actively intervene in court or wait for Guo, assessing the Alliance's advice against independent legal steps.","message_ids":["qc47a680d0f5915451b6e","q6bac99628ef686e7c15b","q8acc49f221099ccfb34f","q70e9aa6d54acd3af2999","qfd01e83cd5a6e80f8551","q795924fce36b3d2e1904","qaaadceb3da17c3a22411","q3d8cb54554d6da546ec3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qc47a680d0f5915451b6e","summary_en":"joh*** remarks that remaining in the group at least allows members to see a glimmer of hope."},{"message_id":"q6bac99628ef686e7c15b","summary_en":"joh*** cautions members against holding excessively high expectations."},{"message_id":"q8acc49f221099ccfb34f","summary_en":"joh*** suggests this outcome could properly extinguish everyone's notions of taking down the CCP."},{"message_id":"q70e9aa6d54acd3af2999","summary_en":"joh*** advises participants to concentrate on personal reform and rebuilding their daily lives."},{"message_id":"qfd01e83cd5a6e80f8551","summary_en":"joh*** contends that the Alliance telling harmed investors not to take legal action demonstrates either foolishness or deliberate misconduct."},{"message_id":"q795924fce36b3d2e1904","summary_en":"mrz*** insists that no excuses should be made, recounting that Guo declared on live streams that he would win even without a single fellow fighter."},{"message_id":"qaaadceb3da17c3a22411","summary_en":"joh*** states that nobody would involve themselves in this mess if investor funds had not been lost."},{"message_id":"q3d8cb54554d6da546ec3","summary_en":"him*** argues that if participants take no action, Guo will simply have won entirely on his own."}]},{"title":"Fund Structures and Recovery Formulas: Disputes over MOS, Maywind, and Potential Double Recovery","description":"Participants analyze Arizona court records involving MOS and Maywind, arguing over whether litigation produced improper double recovery for leadership.","message_ids":["q529a739c94499ba0dc44","qfbc5ba605b565d91d8d2","qf8fb9ec5cda0bcd8b8b3","q162faa314bc602933462","q72b577872e5087eaa4be","qcab2d68fd0940f6510c4","qd739a7fbc17a882c77f4","q4ae1786520340bf5100b","qf810c9d31950504ddc3a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q529a739c94499ba0dc44","summary_en":"reb*** quotes court filings Doc. 151 p. 3, Doc. 103 p. 2, and Doc. 84 p. 13 to describe how the court ruled that single-member entity MOS lacked standing to recover losses for unnamed third parties, arguing that the litigation served to block real investors from seeking recovery."},{"message_id":"qfbc5ba605b565d91d8d2","summary_en":"reb*** notes that the bankruptcy case is based in Connecticut and inquires whether Guo's daughter litigated against Luc from EDNY up to the Second Circuit."},{"message_id":"qf8fb9ec5cda0bcd8b8b3","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that Xia was only owed around $4 million sent by MOS but received over $8 million in settlement, while authorized investors were turned away with excuses about frozen funds."},{"message_id":"q162faa314bc602933462","summary_en":"reb*** questions whether genuine cash investors were far fewer than the 6,000 cited by Gale, hypothesizing that many names were phantom accounts overlapping with GTV and G-Club buyers."},{"message_id":"q72b577872e5087eaa4be","summary_en":"spr*** questions whether anyone actually paid $80 for Himalaya Coins given that the peak price reached only around $50."},{"message_id":"qcab2d68fd0940f6510c4","summary_en":"spr*** disputes that buyers would pay such extreme premiums when matched transactions ordinarily follow prevailing market rates."},{"message_id":"qd739a7fbc17a882c77f4","summary_en":"joh*** explains that $50 was the official exchange price using HDO to buy HCN, whereas $80 was paid in over-the-counter matched trades at an off-exchange premium."},{"message_id":"q4ae1786520340bf5100b","summary_en":"beg*** recounts from Arizona filings Doc. 157 p. 11 line 25 and p. 8 line 18 that MOS transferred $4,050,000 to Maywind while Xia recovered $8,136,288.58 through other courts, noting the judge highlighted double recovery concerns before awarding $4,550,000 against Wei."},{"message_id":"qf810c9d31950504ddc3a","summary_en":"beg*** calculates whether Maywind received $27.15 million in total investor funds, leaving around $6 million retained by Wei after transfers to ACA Capital and Xia."}]},{"title":"Judicial Fairness and Bias Allegations: Questions of Judicial Overreach and Shared Silence on Key Issues","description":"Participants dispute whether the court and prosecutors acted impartially, alleging prosecutorial vulnerabilities and shared silence regarding key actors.","message_ids":["q3e583c95d29f8cf76476","q41a76b424ad51c2c1859","qd0aeadf4ab1b5bfe1e4f","qf68923a2018a76967110","q20022954a4762512636f","q87cf14b9638b87afb50f","q4c078e44b091b460c229","q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3e583c95d29f8cf76476","summary_en":"joh*** contends that the defense sacrificing Qing was merely the initial step following external pressure."},{"message_id":"q41a76b424ad51c2c1859","summary_en":"joh*** argues that to avoid judicial fraud accusations surrounding the Mahwah agreement, prosecutors will eventually be forced to abandon Luc as appellate pressure mounts."},{"message_id":"qd0aeadf4ab1b5bfe1e4f","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that prosecutors, defense attorneys, and Qing were collaboratively putting on a show against Guo."},{"message_id":"qf68923a2018a76967110","summary_en":"him*** notes that following Guo's arrest on Mar 15, the subsequent Gettr post was actually published by the Alliance."},{"message_id":"q20022954a4762512636f","summary_en":"ntp*** points out that final decision-making power still rests with Judge Torres."},{"message_id":"q87cf14b9638b87afb50f","summary_en":"kir*** argues that the Second Circuit would not repeatedly leave procedural openings if it did not credit their position."},{"message_id":"q4c078e44b091b460c229","summary_en":"spr*** contends that other farms did not remit money to Maywind because funds were retained locally."},{"message_id":"q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d","summary_en":"beg*** recounts that Second Circuit filings accepted for thirteen individuals raised Paul Hastings' Beijing office conflicts, political motivations, Southern District misconduct, and alleged prosecutorial collusion with Luc."}]},{"title":"Power and Organizational Governance Narratives: Conflicts over Anti-CCP Objectives and Resource Priorities","description":"Participants debate whether the movement's overarching political objectives justify personal autocracy and dispute whether resource acquisition should precede governance reform.","message_ids":["q882ece254f759771eaf1","q9d90db915c513f277e7a","qf46af166c11d34947dad","q96487529d06a31c06421","q0b08acf1e24a9cb942fe","q66ae9c2e198950f83abd","q020484740e1b083e4f96","q30d2357023cf2293bcd0"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q882ece254f759771eaf1","summary_en":"cin*** argues that blaming CCP interference for GTV's failure contains a logical flaw, noting Guo realistically failed to deliver results under prevailing conditions."},{"message_id":"q9d90db915c513f277e7a","summary_en":"cin*** uses the analogy of a boxer who claims guaranteed victory despite getting knocked out first to illustrate that subsequent excuses contradict assertions of certainty."},{"message_id":"qf46af166c11d34947dad","summary_en":"cin*** remarks ironically that claims of Guo inevitably defeating the CCP fall apart because the CCP dismantled him first."},{"message_id":"q96487529d06a31c06421","summary_en":"him*** questions what societal conditions will look like after the regime's eventual collapse."},{"message_id":"q0b08acf1e24a9cb942fe","summary_en":"him*** contends that relying entirely on a single person like Guo would merely recreate another autocracy."},{"message_id":"q66ae9c2e198950f83abd","summary_en":"him*** asks rhetorically whether Donald Trump's actual capability even matters."},{"message_id":"q020484740e1b083e4f96","summary_en":"him*** remarks ironically that regardless of whether democracy is genuine or fabricated, it would still be labeled a democracy."},{"message_id":"q30d2357023cf2293bcd0","summary_en":"reb*** questions who will have the standing to divide the tens of trillions accumulated by the CCP in a post-CCP 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是不会in。。。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb47e9a67a33983a477a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2203fb3354d4133d15be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb47e9a67a33983a477a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q4f5dfcbe77ca8a612d98","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":406,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T12:47:43.772Z","text":"放心，中共這個招牌被打爛是肯定的，劇本早寫好，一步步在走，給多一點時間","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1c6612ea92c187304a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f5dfcbe77ca8a612d98","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c6612ea92c187304a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q9d9c828993e9d7eead43","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":407,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:48:19.935Z","text":"学魔女 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两码事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5308303423e7ac0f2314","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfae921c75ef6fdc172fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5308303423e7ac0f2314","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd8df533dcbdfeefd4f87","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":420,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:54:01.141Z","text":"海外的，换马甲的要拿回去，得过好几关","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8620b7324a7c8babd4ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8df533dcbdfeefd4f87","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8620b7324a7c8babd4ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qbd06ce0a3e75da54f75a","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":421,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:54:23.770Z","text":"现在灭共都没影，就要分钱了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8df533dcbdfeefd4f87","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd06ce0a3e75da54f75a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8df533dcbdfeefd4f87","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qb23504a52ec1a992f368","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":422,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:54:41.678Z","text":"思维不要这么跳跃吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb23504a52ec1a992f368","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qb68b49af27550c031ba4","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":423,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:54:45.519Z","text":"不是分钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbd06ce0a3e75da54f75a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb68b49af27550c031ba4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd06ce0a3e75da54f75a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q9ef638623bae4ef6a364","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":424,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:54:57.082Z","text":"先把郭搞出来再说吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ef638623bae4ef6a364","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q8484a10f564d4251add6","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":425,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:55:19.327Z","text":"是这意思 先弄出来 才谈其他","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ef638623bae4ef6a364","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8484a10f564d4251add6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ef638623bae4ef6a364","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q0b8fe45645dbbb82e585","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":426,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-06T12:55:25.403Z","text":"说得再白点 郭说他能灭共 这句话本身 谁敢打包票是真的 虔诚联邦信徒除外","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b8fe45645dbbb82e585","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q66e174637f40a1aced19","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":427,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T12:55:25.926Z","text":"曾經是。\n魔女也有她的過人之處，為什麼不可以學習，敵人厲害的地方我也會佩服、也會學習，有問題嗎？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08c5751f09a198fe1139","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66e174637f40a1aced19","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08c5751f09a198fe1139","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q92c3946bc85d270fc877","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":428,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-06T12:55:42.372Z","text":"郭哪句话真哪句话假 没人知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92c3946bc85d270fc877","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q2334cd8e0eefe6334710","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":429,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:56:04.407Z","text":"你信他干嘛 看外部形势","edited":false,"reply_to":"q92c3946bc85d270fc877","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2334cd8e0eefe6334710","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92c3946bc85d270fc877","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q8281280949a14c521ce1","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":430,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:56:26.135Z","text":"看不懂 就是自己的事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8281280949a14c521ce1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qca3a555d2c158c24b0a5","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":431,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T12:56:37.592Z","text":"都是局里的棋子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca3a555d2c158c24b0a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q15ef48efe474e29bc0d3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":432,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-06T12:56:42.757Z","text":"俺不管你怎么解读郭这种 策略也好 钓鱼也罢  他就是个谎话连篇的人从大白话角度讲","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15ef48efe474e29bc0d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qaa61bea10fc3a71443d2","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":433,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-06T12:56:56.127Z","text":"所以只能结合事实 自己判断","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa61bea10fc3a71443d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q4310df1dfe194d31353b","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":434,"speaker":"she***","date":"2026-06-06T12:57:37.072Z","text":"老郭对美国司法还有点信心，没想到美国司法比共产党更黑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4310df1dfe194d31353b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf6954691a30c21eafda7","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":435,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:58:19.291Z","text":"她有啥过人之处","edited":false,"reply_to":"q66e174637f40a1aced19","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6954691a30c21eafda7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66e174637f40a1aced19","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q1b225298d924fdae52dd","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":436,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T12:58:46.500Z","text":"各自修行，能力有大小，請不要道德綁架。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q193ef95fcb2e15941093","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b225298d924fdae52dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q5947778b19594c0456b2","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":437,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T12:59:34.043Z","text":"你老盯着郭文贵干嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":"q92c3946bc85d270fc877","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5947778b19594c0456b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92c3946bc85d270fc877","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q35db080d5b5021b5e97a","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":438,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-06T13:00:26.922Z","text":"啥意思？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5947778b19594c0456b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35db080d5b5021b5e97a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5947778b19594c0456b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q67498e6d8beb0eaa22fd","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":439,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-06T13:02:09.775Z","text":"多大点钱，就当给文贵先生直播刷火箭，郭文贵做啥我都支持，郭文贵从此支持共产党了我都支持，[屏蔽词]们别来这里卖政治正确。爱滚多远多远，关你们屁事。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67498e6d8beb0eaa22fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q4efe56cd01c8e4208dc8","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":440,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T13:03:47.622Z","text":"你管他真假？你做你的不就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35db080d5b5021b5e97a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4efe56cd01c8e4208dc8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35db080d5b5021b5e97a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q5aa177d404c97a5c4525","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":441,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-06-06T13:04:01.799Z","text":"老郭是被美国背后的中共司法缠诉和司法程序造假困住了，但老郭的许多情报和预言都被一一验证。现在看来，老郭身边几乎都是中共安插的敌人，老郭知蒋干用蒋干没错，因为他出来并没有带着自己的队伍（人马）出来，而且即使有自己的人马也会被中共蓝金黄变成叛徒的，老郭的高明之处是让蒋干灭蒋干。老郭搭建的新中国联邦构架和喜联储构架也很超前和实用。但通过今年联盟64的直播宣传可以明显看出，联盟已经把老郭踹下灭共战车，海报去郭化已经很明显了。再看看青藤背后背景图光圈，他以为自己加个光环就能替代老郭，殊不知他的眼神很空洞，他在被架在火🔥上烤，谁难受谁知道。\n现在不是抱怨的时候，越是在困难和看不见希望的时刻越要想想我们参加爆料革命的最终目的是什么，如果单纯为了投资赚钱，现在有很多很成熟的投资赚钱途径，但为什么要投资G系列呢？也许有人投资的目的就是要搞老郭，也许有人就是为了赚快钱，心态不同对同一件事的看法也不同。现在在老郭最需要战友们帮助的时刻，我看到这个群有战友挺身而出，以自诉者身份讲真实的G系列叙事，而且看到这些自诉者越战越勇，有勇有谋与法官和检查官博弈，自诉者的参与已经开始让法官和检察官进退两难，这就是成果，就是希望。这个群是开放群，什么人都可以参与讨论，而这个群是真正能救老郭和自我救赎的群。爆料革命没有老郭的存在就是个垃圾，司马懿会出现，但战友们若把老郭及时从监狱里拯救出来，司马懿就会很快over了。这个群吸引我的地方就是还有战友保存着战斗力，还在战斗🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5aa177d404c97a5c4525","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qadd0b5192b176a0ff18d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":442,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-06T13:04:06.129Z","text":"你老盯着郭干嘛，他都在监狱里了，啥也做不了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadd0b5192b176a0ff18d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe2846dcbec6eb9953667","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":443,"speaker":".an***","dat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回光返照","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7277888fa6ac3399cfc9","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99366e9c0ab40d3f44cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf31c3a31edfba4199a18","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":446,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-06T13:21:39.257Z","text":"老美不滅共，就必被中共滅。中共已經是死人一個！掌控世界的力量早達成共識，支解中共，中國分裂成幾十年個小國，類似美國一樣幾十個州，然後聯邦制。\n\n普通人眼中的中共物理上消失才叫滅共，再給多一點點時間就可以看到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf31c3a31edfba4199a18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q91b04a1f3110e27ef5c4","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":447,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T14:07:47.960Z","text":"屁酱第三梯队的美梦，彻底凉凉\n别人郝叶，只和青那帮人玩儿，不买屁酱姜虾头的账\nhttps://x.com/toukuip82522t/status/2063215204045820082?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91b04a1f3110e27ef5c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q0d0682fdf7c944851003","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":448,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-06T14:26:23.659Z","text":"［用户 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何乐而不为？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48416423d4829dd8acdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q4a18d7de1382fb9dc2e3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":451,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-06T15:31:21.827Z","text":"你管老郭哪句话真的哪句话假的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a18d7de1382fb9dc2e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qb49243f7c8aa2139efef","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":452,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-06T15:31:55.839Z","text":"辛普森杀人都能翻案 不影响李昌钰博士封神","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb49243f7c8aa2139efef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q332119a49c1b51832481","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":453,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-06T15:32:28.627Z","text":"老郭就算真的骗点钱又如何？ 把老郭弄出来 我等地位远超李昌钰","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q332119a49c1b51832481","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q1e708aef778d50615d75","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":454,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-06T15:32:34.570Z","text":"胜过当鲁迅","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7e824a6b99b348c7267","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e708aef778d50615d75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qdc88d71f87001532c1c3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":455,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-06T15:33:18.444Z","text":"李昌钰是检察官 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要求传唤夏凄东 9指妖； 再把他们加入到二巡的writ renew上； emergency stay 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魏\n肯定是要把他们，都拉进这个案子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q897e9cf0e03b49341252","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c713f0096445c6dcabc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q897e9cf0e03b49341252","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc0b11e924443e9fbac4c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":489,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T07:18:16.813Z","text":"量刑前能提这个？不是只能提上传动议的事吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q897e9cf0e03b49341252","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0b11e924443e9fbac4c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q897e9cf0e03b49341252","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q435a13fe4231c7dbd4ea","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":490,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-07T10:18:01.140Z","text":"https://x.com/sarahzh67248600/status/2063565877123887110?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q435a13fe4231c7dbd4ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe2067919be959dea40d1","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":491,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-07T10:40:34.386Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2063571696330973670?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2067919be959dea40d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":492,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-07T12:01:21.642Z","text":"二巡给立案的13个人的法律文件， 提的可不止入卷的事。例如： Luc的律师事务所在 北京有办公室/利益冲突，郭案中的政治因素，南区法院无法无天😂， 检察官Luc 合谋 。。。。这些都被提过 二巡也给立案了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0b11e924443e9fbac4c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0b11e924443e9fbac4c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q91712da4a82c3c7fd990","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":493,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-07T12:18:42.452Z","text":"因为南区不给上传入卷，现在二巡现在已经成了南区的发泄口了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91712da4a82c3c7fd990","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qbdb6800744b5f0a49775","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":494,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T12:23:13.820Z","text":"如果能打掉Luc，把Luc作假證、普衡律師事務所一直在幫中共的國企合作，就等於是直接幫中共做事。此案中有Luc及普衡的存在就已經不合理，程序完全不正義！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdb6800744b5f0a49775","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q611f52cdd52a29100328","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":495,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T13:08:24.804Z","text":"1.要什麼樣的新證據才可以令到案件駁回重審呢？\n\n2. 哪些地方程序瑕疵足以讓案件疑點利益歸被告？從而變無罪釋放呢？\n\n3. 美國刑法有沒有類似的案子的被告因程序瑕疵而最後整個反轉的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q611f52cdd52a29100328","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q813d2b469e3576d5a435","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":496,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T13:16:17.217Z","text":"驳回并案的个法庭令里是这么说的849","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q813d2b469e3576d5a435","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q4edb3507aa9b78447455","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":497,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T13:18:51.413Z","text":"老郭曾在直播中說過：他的所謂破產案也是造的假，由一單已經還清的擔保案引出來的，當年他個人為盤古擔保向誰（不記得名字）🫣借了三千萬，之後已經連本帶利息還清了債務。\n\n他們造假，由此引出了追債、然後老郭破產案，而且此事的發生原本在中共國內，美國的法院無權立案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4edb3507aa9b78447455","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qae314ba1172ebcfc3e3f","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":498,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-07T13:23:47.286Z","text":"也可能是保守策略。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae314ba1172ebcfc3e3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q60dabd62ab6307ef2180","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":499,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-07T13:24:44.528Z","text":"目前有些还没被驳回， 里面是这么说的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q813d2b469e3576d5a435","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60dabd62ab6307ef2180","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q813d2b469e3576d5a435","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qdb1fce262b47cc8eb5ef","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":500,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T13:28:28.349Z","text":"动议里提到的问题的审议得量刑后了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb1fce262b47cc8eb5ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d1cc69163bcd8a5380d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q267f748c1c37c623957c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":501,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T13:28:32.611Z","text":"其他的强制令估计也是这个套路处理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60dabd62ab6307ef2180","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q267f748c1c37c623957c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60dabd62ab6307ef2180","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe8dae8482ab30523f832","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":502,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T13:28:46.952Z","text":"这眼看要量刑了，下周怎么也该有动静了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8dae8482ab30523f832","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q5907dbd33252128f5a5c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":503,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T13:31:27.193Z","text":"这个得去破产庭说吧 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4edb3507aa9b78447455","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5907dbd33252128f5a5c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4edb3507aa9b78447455","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q01edc02c3e7d09538f35","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":504,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T13:32:36.641Z","text":"几波人一个套路，这不是明显商量好的吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qae314ba1172ebcfc3e3f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01edc02c3e7d09538f35","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae314ba1172ebcfc3e3f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc292985ad71f10a51ab6","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":505,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T14:32:58.478Z","text":"不是接收香草山的，是先投凤凰sara暴雷后再把借贷转给香草山的，香草山让凤凰收款是夏为推卸没有代表全联盟去追sara的责任的借口，那这2315+450实际就是凤凰收到的全部借款额，这865投了凤凰又没委托香草山追讨的，得自己去找sara打官司了，或者在郭这个案子里发自诉，要求检方冻结这部分钱，郭不是也提过吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa856c8886930b9ad7aa4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc292985ad71f10a51ab6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa856c8886930b9ad7aa4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc12fe6ac7bc8a2b3c3f4","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":506,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T14:33:45.224Z","text":"郭提的就是这部分钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc12fe6ac7bc8a2b3c3f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q21996e7634503f7f79d8","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":507,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-07T14:36:51.310Z","text":"嗯","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe8dae8482ab30523f832","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21996e7634503f7f79d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8dae8482ab30523f832","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q6834323f266053eebedf","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":508,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T14:37:38.998Z","text":"請問老郭在哪份文件提過？我就是鳳凰Maywind的錢轉香草山的情況，夏還跟我們签了借貸合約。\n群里有人說那部分錢不在被凍資金池里，","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc12fe6ac7bc8a2b3c3f4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6834323f266053eebedf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc12fe6ac7bc8a2b3c3f4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q01b86b8457e8781f7310","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":509,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-07T14:38:19.681Z","text":"不一定。夏跟魏这么统一口径就是有问题。我不会认为其它农场汇给maywind 的加起来就450万。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc292985ad71f10a51ab6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01b86b8457e8781f7310","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc292985ad71f10a51ab6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q3c842835e8e03efd2e94","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":510,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-07T14:38:50.419Z","text":"这个事情我们搞不清楚， 就可以要求法院传唤夏 9指， 让他们作证","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6834323f266053eebedf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c842835e8e03efd2e94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6834323f266053eebedf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc336c64f975aa6ea0123","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":511,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-07T14:40:34.728Z","text":"夏有没有联系投资人返款呢？ 为什么不？ 为什么在直播中说谎？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q01b86b8457e8781f7310","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc336c64f975aa6ea0123","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01b86b8457e8781f7310","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qcedbe31e21c67a7f7026","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":512,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T14:41:51.672Z","text":"夏在直播上說錢已經因老郭的案子而被FBI凍結","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc336c64f975aa6ea0123","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcedbe31e21c67a7f7026","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc336c64f975aa6ea0123","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q4c078e44b091b460c229","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":513,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T14:44:04.631Z","text":"应该没有其它农场汇给MAYWIND , 都是汇给本农场","edited":false,"reply_to":"q01b86b8457e8781f7310","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c078e44b091b460c229","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01b86b8457e8781f7310","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q47f3daedc2609d4fe3f2","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":514,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-07T14:44:45.588Z","text":"我就给maywind 汇过钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c078e44b091b460c229","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47f3daedc2609d4fe3f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c078e44b091b460c229","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q81f8dd4b31b31b0fd65f","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":515,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-07T14:45:29.733Z","text":"这里的400万是由四笔汇款构成。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81f8dd4b31b31b0fd65f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc38a83c9d5fcfbb31fcc","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":516,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T14:45:44.180Z","text":"那你当时不是凤凰农场成员吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47f3daedc2609d4fe3f2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc38a83c9d5fcfbb31fcc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47f3daedc2609d4fe3f2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q0f35656da4fe78294c2b","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":517,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T14:45:45.522Z","text":"都怪我們這群TMD傻子太好騙，早該自訴介入案件，老郭的案子也不至於發展成這樣，一味等聯盟統一行動🥲\n\n可惜呀！現在時間太緊，馬上就要量刑了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f35656da4fe78294c2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe11a950e17cf3e164061","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":518,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-07T14:45:51.067Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc38a83c9d5fcfbb31fcc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe11a950e17cf3e164061","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc38a83c9d5fcfbb31fcc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q72fde75d3621f69a03ab","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":519,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T14:46:12.976Z","text":"啊，那你为什么不汇给本农场？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72fde75d3621f69a03ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf290995a61b73f5a7c28","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":520,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-07T14:46:41.139Z","text":"本农场当时还没成立公司。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf290995a61b73f5a7c28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q9be84a68af0e2a03596c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":521,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T14:47:31.760Z","text":"哦，那你转香草山了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9be84a68af0e2a03596c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q91140ddea59998f9b22b","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":522,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-07T14:47:45.127Z","text":"当时很多农场都给maywind 汇过，魏出事后，才由联盟统一给账号。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91140ddea59998f9b22b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q482305f6a6a9fb7a9495","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":523,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-07T14:48:24.491Z","text":"所以根据Rule 32.2 criminal forfeiture process 要求独立听证","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcedbe31e21c67a7f7026","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q482305f6a6a9fb7a9495","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcedbe31e21c67a7f7026","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q5df7793aef60ad17595e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":524,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T14:48:30.935Z","text":"国内那几个报假案的，投资额多大有说吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5df7793aef60ad17595e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q6a128574c6cb879400b8","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":525,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-07T14:50:11.603Z","text":"没有。夏说代表联盟去起诉魏还钱。它们后来和解分赃的钱，主要就是这些没有显示在记录里的钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9be84a68af0e2a03596c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a128574c6cb879400b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9be84a68af0e2a03596c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qa4f8bf323a59b5b74bf3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":526,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T14:50:54.932Z","text":"老郭如果量完刑，那錢就會被Luc那邊搶去？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4f8bf323a59b5b74bf3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qccf323fa588fe5ae9151","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":527,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T14:54:09.935Z","text":"sara的事我在FBI 总部报案，他们根本没让我进门，就在窗口填了个表，然合无声无息，可是GTV才刚开始2020年5月就开始调查，表面上就是因为有几个报假案而且在中国国内，他们投资额肯定也没有我大，这个事我得说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccf323fa588fe5ae9151","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qbdf24ae8ffa8c9af8d0b","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":528,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T14:54:50.824Z","text":"那你得要求检方冻结这部分钱啊，郭都已经明示了，这事别人也帮不了你做","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a128574c6cb879400b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf24ae8ffa8c9af8d0b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a128574c6cb879400b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd02eabeec1500ad6151b","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":529,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T14:58:17.872Z","text":"联盟没办法去起诉魏吧，因为借贷都是和农场签合同不是和联盟，农场起诉也得拿着这个借贷转让合同才有依据啊，刑事那边FBI又不管，所以刑事双起诉不了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a128574c6cb879400b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd02eabeec1500ad6151b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a128574c6cb879400b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qec86341b6c6e656acd2d","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":530,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:00:41.972Z","text":"但那個錢現如今到底在哪兒？我們還並不肯定，也不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbdf24ae8ffa8c9af8d0b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec86341b6c6e656acd2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf24ae8ffa8c9af8d0b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc64bb18d1bcc56378f55","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":531,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T15:01:12.731Z","text":"所以没有和香草山签转让借贷债权的人，香草山也没办法找魏追这部分资金啊，但是夏应该把这个事向联盟所有人说清楚，但是他们没有做这件事，他们根本就不care","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc64bb18d1bcc56378f55","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe1a78c4c9e8925e27632","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":532,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:03:54.745Z","text":"我是從鳳凰轉到香草山，九指爆後。後面夏其東跟我們簽了一個為其3年的借貸合同，還承諾付年息3%。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc64bb18d1bcc56378f55","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1a78c4c9e8925e27632","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc64bb18d1bcc56378f55","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q4926dadc7d2b4fa47043","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":533,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:04:01.115Z","text":"就在刑事案说这个\nluc越是不肯在刑事案露头，说明他越是担心破产案造的假，影响到刑事案，这些事情被抖出来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5907dbd33252128f5a5c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4926dadc7d2b4fa47043","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5907dbd33252128f5a5c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q592e56db0c1b6ff7777c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":534,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:07:11.175Z","text":"在南區上動義讓夏東、九指出來聽證作證，托雷斯會理嗎？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q592e56db0c1b6ff7777c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd790fe9f9d24d45c8e49","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":535,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:07:40.597Z","text":"青上位的KPI，就是按住投资者，不让去第三方pro se\n这才有王案，检方对冻结资产的处理，用没收替代直接赔偿\n这个事情王律师不反对，第三方是可以反对的，但都被青按住，没人上去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f35656da4fe78294c2b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd790fe9f9d24d45c8e49","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f35656da4fe78294c2b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q02324d9cdcf0809810d9","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":536,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:07:53.435Z","text":"肯定不理，上二巡呗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q592e56db0c1b6ff7777c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02324d9cdcf0809810d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q592e56db0c1b6ff7777c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q44f904469dafb3a81f0e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":537,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:08:42.338Z","text":"托雷斯不知道在憋什么坏水","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44f904469dafb3a81f0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q7da7f8858db28d1cd2bb","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":538,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:10:46.748Z","text":"中美联合执法","edited":false,"reply_to":"qccf323fa588fe5ae9151","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7da7f8858db28d1cd2bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccf323fa588fe5ae9151","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q51d044433f290c298fc7","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":539,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:10:48.234Z","text":"目前我們應該集中火力把作假證、搶我們錢的Luc打回原形，然後才有更多時間去法庭還原真相","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51d044433f290c298fc7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q49ee5781a275519f4bab","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":540,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:14:09.539Z","text":"如果继续延期怎么办？如果量刑了又该怎么办？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49ee5781a275519f4bab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc93bfb742b1cddd1753f","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":541,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:14:16.174Z","text":"我們能直接找現在的司法部部長嗎？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc93bfb742b1cddd1753f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qa045a253a91585cf86af","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":542,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:14:37.918Z","text":"夏和Sara，玩儿的是耍无赖\n夏替sara洗白民事诉讼\nSara给长岛返款，类似感谢费\n长岛拿到钱，自己吞，把锅甩到刑事案\n这不就是又一个841的做法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a128574c6cb879400b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa045a253a91585cf86af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a128574c6cb879400b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q460a4467a0789218a599","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":543,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-07T15:14:46.550Z","text":"继续延期说明法庭已经麻痹了 无法解决问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q49ee5781a275519f4bab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q460a4467a0789218a599","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49ee5781a275519f4bab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qea94fefd55430ea8c354","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":544,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-07T15:15:21.904Z","text":"托雷斯自己买了两月 什么问题都不解决 现在又拖","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea94fefd55430ea8c354","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd0a10f749e3b20544dc0","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":545,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-07T15:15:32.808Z","text":"这一次延期后 我们可以直接撕破脸了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0a10f749e3b20544dc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q1af9be286778f567e745","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":546,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:15:38.462Z","text":"这是在等川普下台？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea94fefd55430ea8c354","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af9be286778f567e745","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea94fefd55430ea8c354","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q61e299e104f8f732761c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":547,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-07T15:16:06.520Z","text":"也不是 延期是他们唯一的选择 但是越延期他们越难看","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1af9be286778f567e745","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61e299e104f8f732761c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af9be286778f567e745","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q2c100cc3ae04582596d8","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":548,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:16:27.057Z","text":"给魏那边汇款的，墙内的不少，信息估计被她卖给了国安\n这批人，也没有能力，自己去起诉魏","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd02eabeec1500ad6151b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c100cc3ae04582596d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd02eabeec1500ad6151b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q916dba0b909503909e92","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":549,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:16:35.743Z","text":"如果延期對我們第三方自訴是好的，可以有更多時間，更多人加入","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q916dba0b909503909e92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qb8fd142ef297c173dc5e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":550,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:16:41.421Z","text":"难看不管用啊，只有民主党再次上台","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8fd142ef297c173dc5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q525b6ec5f9f93365115e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":551,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-07T15:17:08.482Z","text":"再延期我们就可以直接要求撤诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q525b6ec5f9f93365115e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q8a854f8e97b5893d111a","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":552,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-07T15:17:14.489Z","text":"开撤诉听证会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a854f8e97b5893d111a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc41583b95a519c7eed26","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":553,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-07T15:17:23.832Z","text":"直接还钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc41583b95a519c7eed26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q49f53019476531241083","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":554,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:17:42.315Z","text":"再延期就直接干法官，让她滚蛋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q916dba0b909503909e92","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49f53019476531241083","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q916dba0b909503909e92","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qc642622bcc89064bbc62","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":555,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-07T15:17:54.550Z","text":"撤诉+法官回避 2106 一起上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q49f53019476531241083","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc642622bcc89064bbc62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49f53019476531241083","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q37d38aa3c8a39f85f793","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":556,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:18:04.504Z","text":"王案没收就是不成立的\nTony的事儿，这个就被打废","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc41583b95a519c7eed26","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37d38aa3c8a39f85f793","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc41583b95a519c7eed26","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q2beab79ca08691249bed","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":557,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-07T15:18:13.134Z","text":"en","edited":false,"reply_to":"q37d38aa3c8a39f85f793","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2beab79ca08691249bed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37d38aa3c8a39f85f793","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf90b8a2cbe9d7ce51c11","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":558,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:18:46.195Z","text":"投资人也是王案的受害人吧，现在还能参与吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q37d38aa3c8a39f85f793","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf90b8a2cbe9d7ce51c11","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37d38aa3c8a39f85f793","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qa734bb7989fd05b1d79f","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":559,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:19:01.156Z","text":"對怕就是他們硬性量刑，把錢分掉，然後茫茫上訴路，之後就算贏了，也拿不回錢了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61e299e104f8f732761c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa734bb7989fd05b1d79f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61e299e104f8f732761c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd088e9531a1181ca26e3","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":560,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-07T15:19:04.227Z","text":"都可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf90b8a2cbe9d7ce51c11","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd088e9531a1181ca26e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf90b8a2cbe9d7ce51c11","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q60a1ac68ed0112a39fcf","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":561,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:19:09.187Z","text":"可以啊 一直是三个被告","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf90b8a2cbe9d7ce51c11","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a1ac68ed0112a39fcf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf90b8a2cbe9d7ce51c11","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd9dc09ff900fe3ca6b4e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":562,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-07T15:19:14.151Z","text":"量不了了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa734bb7989fd05b1d79f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9dc09ff900fe3ca6b4e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa734bb7989fd05b1d79f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q4b2aa353b814cb4dde90","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":563,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:19:43.781Z","text":"也是南区对吧，那就针对王上动议，就是没多少证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd088e9531a1181ca26e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b2aa353b814cb4dde90","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd088e9531a1181ca26e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf7f53e6dd14bf8c102be","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":564,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:20:15.236Z","text":"如果硬来，南区就是挑战250年的美司法体系\n这个锅，奥巴马都不敢背","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa734bb7989fd05b1d79f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7f53e6dd14bf8c102be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa734bb7989fd05b1d79f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qa81a7aa8d93812190907","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":565,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:21:03.194Z","text":"有青造假的证据\n王案一开始没收，青联盟就发消息，要求投资人同意接受王案的remission\n没收后3个月，是853n的窗口期，青一个王案受害者，让其他投资者走853i remission\n这是把第三方，对王案没收质疑的窗口期，完全堵死","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b2aa353b814cb4dde90","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa81a7aa8d93812190907","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b2aa353b814cb4dde90","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qbab57db687566137cbe0","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":566,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:25:21.316Z","text":"我們是否可以找到司法部長的Email聯繫方式，更加多自訴人上yu狀，先叫停案件的量刑，然後幾百、幾千的自诉人上美國法庭還原真相。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbab57db687566137cbe0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q1c11ea1883767790e76c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":567,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:26:45.166Z","text":"同意王没收是什么事来着？是填司法部的表？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa81a7aa8d93812190907","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c11ea1883767790e76c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa81a7aa8d93812190907","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe364e3bb19e6c9d4b253","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":568,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-07T15:26:49.598Z","text":"那个美国小李在破产案登记10个亿的债权，它又是农场主，又是联盟委员会成员，把这个事情和虚假债权一起说，应该有点分量，网上传的那个截图，是不是真的？有pacer的，谁可以登录pacer验证一下？ [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe364e3bb19e6c9d4b253","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q609e4343c79fc8baa58a","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":569,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:27:26.941Z","text":"王量刑后，开始没收，开启853n，三个月时间\n随后是青联盟，在各个农场群发消息，让投资者同意王案的没收财产处理 同意remission","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c11ea1883767790e76c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q609e4343c79fc8baa58a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c11ea1883767790e76c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q831c0566a403b701845c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":570,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:28:16.273Z","text":"当时根本没人知道第三方的事，也没人提","edited":false,"reply_to":"q609e4343c79fc8baa58a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q831c0566a403b701845c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q609e4343c79fc8baa58a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q53fb21db8923151b4b4e","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":571,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:29:27.586Z","text":"853n的窗口期，被青用假表，都骗成了853i 走remission\n853n原本是可以motion去质疑 检方对王案财产的处理方式 为什么是没收而不是直接赔偿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q831c0566a403b701845c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53fb21db8923151b4b4e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q831c0566a403b701845c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q62c8f09009eda469f3c4","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":572,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-07T15:29:55.098Z","text":"登录pacer后怎么验证？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe364e3bb19e6c9d4b253","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62c8f09009eda469f3c4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe364e3bb19e6c9d4b253","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qa38966784a372287e3e5","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":573,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:31:16.765Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]这个孙子，最近直播也不和青连线\n不知道他在想什么\n已经上了青的贼船，下不来的","edited":true,"reply_to":"qe364e3bb19e6c9d4b253","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa38966784a372287e3e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe364e3bb19e6c9d4b253","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q0814d08f111c2ccfa6ef","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":574,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:31:46.530Z","text":"会给你一封信，里面有激活码","edited":false,"reply_to":"q62c8f09009eda469f3c4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0814d08f111c2ccfa6ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62c8f09009eda469f3c4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q835d1c9e085c0ca427f8","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":575,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:37:18.211Z","text":"我們可以開直播呼吁更多的傻戰友投資者出來加入自訴嗎？\n去法庭說真相，然後才有可能拿回自己的投資款。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q835d1c9e085c0ca427f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q8676cebebeb810c0e2b2","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":576,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:38:11.464Z","text":"no","edited":false,"reply_to":"q835d1c9e085c0ca427f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8676cebebeb810c0e2b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q835d1c9e085c0ca427f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q225225b16a60dc7ba31a","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":577,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:39:09.172Z","text":"想出份力的，自己会去查资料，找蛛丝马迹，最终肯定会到这里","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q225225b16a60dc7ba31a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q901393367f1632ae7010","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":578,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:39:31.076Z","text":"这不都呼吁一年多了吗，现在傻子们的话语权在灭爆手里","edited":false,"reply_to":"q835d1c9e085c0ca427f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q901393367f1632ae7010","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q835d1c9e085c0ca427f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q8b89283d2eb5d5625080","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":579,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:40:46.200Z","text":"明白，能醒的自然不會繼續睡，醒不來的叫也沒有用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q225225b16a60dc7ba31a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b89283d2eb5d5625080","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q225225b16a60dc7ba31a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe55fcee93ad51f102537","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":580,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:42:17.061Z","text":"这里潜伏多得很\n骂屁酱 青藤 那些狗腿子都看得到","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b89283d2eb5d5625080","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe55fcee93ad51f102537","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b89283d2eb5d5625080","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qb67aaf64a7656f0beba6","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":581,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:42:57.436Z","text":"不然为嘛要特意指出来，盖特运营是老椅子出钱？越解释，说明他们越怕这事儿被捅出来\n再骗，再编，傻子也要被他们逼疯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb67aaf64a7656f0beba6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q0834b7a9c2353668aa3a","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":582,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-07T15:43:45.888Z","text":"罗伊提盖特币是不是用来忽悠他们捐钱的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0834b7a9c2353668aa3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qe3bdabcf000079dce074","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":583,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:44:01.098Z","text":"這哥們真不貪，心太小🤣應該要價$100億美金🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe364e3bb19e6c9d4b253","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3bdabcf000079dce074","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe364e3bb19e6c9d4b253","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q571fc652c924c3ad0aec","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":584,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:45:20.081Z","text":"罗伊：老椅子群，人傻钱多速来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0834b7a9c2353668aa3a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q571fc652c924c3ad0aec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0834b7a9c2353668aa3a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q1f35214b333fbfe54812","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":585,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:45:47.272Z","text":"有道理🤣👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q571fc652c924c3ad0aec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f35214b333fbfe54812","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q571fc652c924c3ad0aec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qd99513e64432a03ee530","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":586,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:49:51.975Z","text":"小滕子一上來就停掉了所有個人的直播權限，只讓有特殊貢獻的人保留個人直播權限。就是要幹壞事前怕被清醒又敢質疑的戰友戳穿謊言。\n果然，不久就推出TD騙卡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd99513e64432a03ee530","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q7caf5b3766ea675a1170","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":587,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:52:24.275Z","text":"他是死士，这个公司法人是他，虽然目前他和唐王，在民事案演戏，但没用，他已经在刑事案二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd99513e64432a03ee530","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7caf5b3766ea675a1170","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd99513e64432a03ee530","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"q9c103dbb4356e150c96c","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":588,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-07T15:53:30.566Z","text":"他的身份，乱套了，王案郭案都有他，造假也是他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c103dbb4356e150c96c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qbf6c26be6f10cd845ca6","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":589,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:57:13.863Z","text":"他們看這茬韮菜長勢太TM好，常割常有😂先表演表演，他們在做事，讓羊羊🐑繼續吃草，好讓下一次的收割期到來再割😂😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7caf5b3766ea675a1170","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf6c26be6f10cd845ca6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7caf5b3766ea675a1170","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116"},{"id":"qf5791576d5b1cf2f2c20","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":590,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-07T15:58:41.705Z","text":"他既是檢方受害者，又要直播表演愛王、愛郭。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c103dbb4356e150c96c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5791576d5b1cf2f2c20","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c103dbb4356e150c96c","reply_label":"查看被回复的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