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5% 在这个案子，都不好使","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55ef157be6d822ef386b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff6c586006a9097bd0e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55ef157be6d822ef386b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qacdf784c14219bb44c10","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":58,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:02:47.627Z","text":"我是在讨论爆料革命这个群体啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacdf784c14219bb44c10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qf65b6c30bc7008409868","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":59,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:03:20.050Z","text":"那边才是你说的群体","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf65b6c30bc7008409868","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q8f3991f9d90ac86d582a","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":60,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:03:45.725Z","text":"这里只管诈骗案子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f3991f9d90ac86d582a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q7175360ea133718c9f3c","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":61,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:04:23.398Z","text":"目前看来，这个案子，和郭，和什么revolution，关系都不大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7175360ea133718c9f3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q2e20936544da0512b05c","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":62,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:05:12.297Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 不是你规定的吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e20936544da0512b05c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q7da52277895d9ae87fc5","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":63,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:05:29.237Z","text":"爆料革命这个群体和案件无关吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e20936544da0512b05c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7da52277895d9ae87fc5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e20936544da0512b05c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qaea0011736e4bdb5590c","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":64,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:05:37.236Z","text":"这个群体不是投资人吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaea0011736e4bdb5590c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qef9bee194ee0fe509267","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":65,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:06:33.278Z","text":"爆料革命不是这个案子的背景吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef9bee194ee0fe509267","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qcd19907a9af857aa1dc4","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":66,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:06:52.819Z","text":"你觉得这是一个单纯的投资诈骗案吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd19907a9af857aa1dc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qd9cec89447b8d941f4f8","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":67,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:06:54.243Z","text":"你说的？\n廊坊国安，不就说了，这就是诈骗案吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef9bee194ee0fe509267","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9cec89447b8d941f4f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef9bee194ee0fe509267","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q2dcad4429344a6d08022","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":68,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:07:24.436Z","text":"爆料革命是这个案子的背景，这是法庭上都承认的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd9cec89447b8d941f4f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dcad4429344a6d08022","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9cec89447b8d941f4f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q81f4f8505dd9a6bb167a","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":69,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:07:34.537Z","text":"对啊 但检方也说了和政治无关\n那还讲什么革命背景","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2dcad4429344a6d08022","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81f4f8505dd9a6bb167a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dcad4429344a6d08022","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q755a645c7913fa725a76","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":70,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:08:06.226Z","text":"就是投资 被骗了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q755a645c7913fa725a76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q74358632187b4b61cdb2","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":71,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:08:18.364Z","text":"你和廊坊国安是一伙的吗？你同意他们的看法？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd9cec89447b8d941f4f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74358632187b4b61cdb2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9cec89447b8d941f4f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qc99f0249a6ee15930a89","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":72,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:08:42.845Z","text":"法庭上都承认，爆料革命是这个案子的背景","edited":false,"reply_to":"q81f4f8505dd9a6bb167a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc99f0249a6ee15930a89","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81f4f8505dd9a6bb167a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qeb5e5056fb700a49d09d","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":73,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:08:47.719Z","text":"你不承认吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb5e5056fb700a49d09d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qc8482761ec7a83e939a3","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":74,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-18T02:08:49.993Z","text":"https://www.youtube.com/live/22GaJ7l5pWw?si=XeBgqq6TvWXkjn7k","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8482761ec7a83e939a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q869599966a9dc5b1959a","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":75,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:09:20.049Z","text":"关我屁事 我只谈投资","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc99f0249a6ee15930a89","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q869599966a9dc5b1959a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc99f0249a6ee15930a89","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q18dc8fb07a170011d493","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":76,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:09:39.460Z","text":"在法庭上，法官都承认中共是一个威胁，你不承认吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q81f4f8505dd9a6bb167a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18dc8fb07a170011d493","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81f4f8505dd9a6bb167a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qd34ee571d27eb7611f7a","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":77,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:10:09.984Z","text":"检方不承认政治影响，你要承认吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q18dc8fb07a170011d493","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd34ee571d27eb7611f7a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18dc8fb07a170011d493","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q7be8d2dca7e6b5931e4c","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":78,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:10:18.455Z","text":"那你的叙事和检方还有廊坊公安是一个叙事了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q869599966a9dc5b1959a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7be8d2dca7e6b5931e4c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q869599966a9dc5b1959a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q44bcdda2c8d4c521d927","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":79,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:10:28.977Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7be8d2dca7e6b5931e4c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44bcdda2c8d4c521d927","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7be8d2dca7e6b5931e4c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q05b488ba62475dea4f61","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":80,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:10:34.245Z","text":"就是诈骗案啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05b488ba62475dea4f61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q29788861b559b0e3cea5","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":81,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:10:40.828Z","text":"检方不承认，是因为没有证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd34ee571d27eb7611f7a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29788861b559b0e3cea5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd34ee571d27eb7611f7a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qb6b0d5bf1b667e2495ea","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":82,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:10:54.797Z","text":"螺丝哥不就是在找证据吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6b0d5bf1b667e2495ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q03bb01350cd996876cc1","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":83,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:10:58.177Z","text":"关我鸟事 我只知道 投资被诈骗了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q29788861b559b0e3cea5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03bb01350cd996876cc1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29788861b559b0e3cea5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q6a4e322ad986a6500470","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":84,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:12:24.218Z","text":"很多诈骗犯，还没出现在法庭\n这和政治无关 我只知道这些","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a4e322ad986a6500470","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q003cf1bbc2ebb2af75d0","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":85,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-18T02:14:31.798Z","text":"你要先寄了给[删节：隐私信息]以后才能发COS，日期不能错🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"q48a894ee7a88b0bce44d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q003cf1bbc2ebb2af75d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48a894ee7a88b0bce44d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qb780ee878d145a3898c5","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":86,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-06-18T02:14:57.702Z","text":"联盟农场的操作就是诈骗，要不然当初老郭干嘛查币，还说自己无法影响联盟农场的决定，当初分配币的时候，联盟怎么分，老郭一直说影响不了他们的决定","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7be8d2dca7e6b5931e4c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb780ee878d145a3898c5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7be8d2dca7e6b5931e4c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q6f0229f0b9977da810ee","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":87,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-18T02:15:11.517Z","text":"我的新Motion ,把检方打出屎来🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73b7ee046597e135a596","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f0229f0b9977da810ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73b7ee046597e135a596","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q174877a0ccfa779624c2","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":88,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:15:15.413Z","text":"去了政治这层皮，300骨干农场主，就没有保护伞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q174877a0ccfa779624c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q3fb48b72e1d7219759e4","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":89,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:15:46.697Z","text":"国安，不就是这个意思\n投资者对诈骗犯，就这么简单的事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fb48b72e1d7219759e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qc0beb752033222d97bb1","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":90,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:17:04.538Z","text":"无所谓\n没有政治背书\n检方不需要给这300诈骗骨干兜底\n要自保，检方就要卖他们","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f0229f0b9977da810ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0beb752033222d97bb1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f0229f0b9977da810ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qeb1a826f6b672ee4eceb","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":91,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:17:18.476Z","text":"诈骗和挪用是两个概念","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb780ee878d145a3898c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb1a826f6b672ee4eceb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb780ee878d145a3898c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q1464226851dc44ac02b6","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":92,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:17:26.253Z","text":"联盟农场是挪用资金","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1464226851dc44ac02b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q23a891eb863726550ef8","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":93,"speaker":"xxx***","date":"2026-06-18T02:17:34.620Z","text":"青藤就是诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb1a826f6b672ee4eceb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23a891eb863726550ef8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb1a826f6b672ee4eceb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q3ab47e6c30070c89c05d","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":94,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:18:01.082Z","text":"他诈骗了什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q23a891eb863726550ef8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ab47e6c30070c89c05d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23a891eb863726550ef8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q400ca9366f7e95f2d95b","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":95,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:18:13.517Z","text":"Tdccp？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q400ca9366f7e95f2d95b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q0f427261335f433270b4","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":96,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-06-18T02:18:59.596Z","text":"还有收了人家的转账，没有进项目，而是分了人家的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb1a826f6b672ee4eceb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f427261335f433270b4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb1a826f6b672ee4eceb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q3571dd9970563a213d29","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":97,"speaker":"xxx***","date":"2026-06-18T02:20:31.663Z","text":"青藤苍天就是诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3571dd9970563a213d29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qc29e31f120fa97e93434","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":98,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-18T02:22:50.201Z","text":"这个把我们坑大了，不是老郭的信用，谁会去投资那些个货！老郭给了他们信用，结果老郭说控制 不了他们🥲 ，那时候就觉得隐隐不对，当时就应该马上把投资退回来的，太迟钝了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb780ee878d145a3898c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc29e31f120fa97e93434","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb780ee878d145a3898c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q2423c0976cf9732f0f22","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":99,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:26:40.705Z","text":"所以你觉得郭是诈骗了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc29e31f120fa97e93434","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2423c0976cf9732f0f22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc29e31f120fa97e93434","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q60396475b844682ad1c9","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":100,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-18T02:26:48.460Z","text":"违背对投资者的信托责任，对投资款侵占，挪用，欺诈转移，就是诈骗。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60396475b844682ad1c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q71269999dcfce29e18fc","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":101,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:27:24.670Z","text":"诈骗是这么定义的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60396475b844682ad1c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71269999dcfce29e18fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60396475b844682ad1c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qabbee79d12627dda33a5","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":102,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:27:40.456Z","text":"你傻啊\n觉不觉得，无所谓\n看资金流水flow","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2423c0976cf9732f0f22","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabbee79d12627dda33a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2423c0976cf9732f0f22","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q62655664deb22416ecd1","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":103,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-18T02:27:50.470Z","text":"诈骗有很多种。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71269999dcfce29e18fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62655664deb22416ecd1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71269999dcfce29e18fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q3a8993d14993fcff831c","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":104,"speaker":"xxx***","date":"2026-06-18T02:28:03.421Z","text":"青藤苍天百分之一万诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71269999dcfce29e18fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a8993d14993fcff831c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71269999dcfce29e18fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q95c32e083882d12141ca","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":105,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:28:22.339Z","text":"你说，不好使\n法官说了算","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3a8993d14993fcff831c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95c32e083882d12141ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a8993d14993fcff831c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qe590e3051bd6433d5920","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":106,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:28:47.729Z","text":"所以你觉得资金流水，证明了郭是诈骗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qabbee79d12627dda33a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe590e3051bd6433d5920","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabbee79d12627dda33a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q91d646535b4054363f5b","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":107,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:28:56.460Z","text":"不知道，我不是法官","edited":false,"reply_to":"qec1dea5b42664f5a8329","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91d646535b4054363f5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q41b829a922ce482aa9e7","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":108,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:30:53.020Z","text":"法官认为 不是我","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe590e3051bd6433d5920","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41b829a922ce482aa9e7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe590e3051bd6433d5920","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q9e740b6c10dceb67802a","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":109,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-18T02:31:21.947Z","text":"美国联邦诈骗罪成立三要素，虚假陈述：[删节：成员身份]，为战友投资g系列提供服务。诈骗意图：它们对投资款的侵占挪用欺诈转移。实质性：它们表演[删节：成员身份]灭共[删节：成员身份]，就是为了获得郭和投资者的信任然后侵占挪用欺诈转移投资款。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e740b6c10dceb67802a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qfd06b0febed607acedd3","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":110,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:32:14.196Z","text":"所以到底是联盟诈骗，还是郭诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9e740b6c10dceb67802a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd06b0febed607acedd3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e740b6c10dceb67802a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q4dac92f5df3187ba5690","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":111,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:32:33.460Z","text":"楼上几位的意思，好像是郭诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dac92f5df3187ba5690","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qe02fa76d7bf2e6f0b420","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":112,"speaker":"xxx***","date":"2026-06-18T02:32:42.444Z","text":"加入爆料革命的海外华人真坏，还有民运的，一群诈骗犯。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe02fa76d7bf2e6f0b420","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q667ed2f6a8cc611b095d","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":113,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-18T02:32:42.748Z","text":"当然是联盟诈骗。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd06b0febed607acedd3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q667ed2f6a8cc611b095d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd06b0febed607acedd3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q1bf21dcaa04052cf8941","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":114,"speaker":"xxx***","date":"2026-06-18T02:33:02.922Z","text":"就是联盟青藤苍天诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q667ed2f6a8cc611b095d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bf21dcaa04052cf8941","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q667ed2f6a8cc611b095d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q8bd0c47f166788c8abd8","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":115,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:33:15.123Z","text":"哦，我以为 ［用户 spr***］ 和 ［用户 joh***］ 说的是郭诈骗呢","edited":true,"reply_to":"q667ed2f6a8cc611b095d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bd0c47f166788c8abd8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q667ed2f6a8cc611b095d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q7394f6e8b95914bf58e0","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":116,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-18T02:33:24.410Z","text":"从王雪斌开始。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1bf21dcaa04052cf8941","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7394f6e8b95914bf58e0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bf21dcaa04052cf8941","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q2f0637060eb0e269836a","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":117,"speaker":"xxx***","date":"2026-06-18T02:33:42.015Z","text":"从SARA开始","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7394f6e8b95914bf58e0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f0637060eb0e269836a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7394f6e8b95914bf58e0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qa432e335234c87722e2c","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":118,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:34:01.296Z","text":"大实话🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a63c73e3108e59e2248","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa432e335234c87722e2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qc0298995a45ffd870b41","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":119,"speaker":"xxx***","date":"2026-06-18T02:34:04.079Z","text":"有投资以来，一直被海外华人诈骗瞄着。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0298995a45ffd870b41","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qe0f99bb113e85a463410","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":120,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:34:08.391Z","text":"他们说，都是因为郭，他们才投资联盟，所以我还以为他们说郭诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a63c73e3108e59e2248","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0f99bb113e85a463410","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qa52ec16958138e344f50","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":121,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-18T02:34:25.112Z","text":"我可没说","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0f99bb113e85a463410","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa52ec16958138e344f50","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0f99bb113e85a463410","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q93a4a1474063cbb4aaae","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":122,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:35:03.272Z","text":"这不是一年前这个群就发现了的吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0298995a45ffd870b41","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93a4a1474063cbb4aaae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0298995a45ffd870b41","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q8e153321e5fe18c2224f","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":123,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:35:07.976Z","text":"你才知道啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e153321e5fe18c2224f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q1076bbf30fe9833d4740","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":124,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:35:30.276Z","text":"你们现在把这个群一年前就讨论过的事情搬出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1076bbf30fe9833d4740","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qe61d07662c11dc410f40","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":125,"speaker":"xxx***","date":"2026-06-18T02:35:32.274Z","text":"目前看你比他们聪明","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7394f6e8b95914bf58e0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe61d07662c11dc410f40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7394f6e8b95914bf58e0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qdd67effdb77de446d0e2","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":126,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-18T02:36:45.568Z","text":"对。但那时还是个人。后面没有一个正式招牌。王雪斌整了个招牌，就是喜马拉雅农场联盟委员会，这个委员会是一个非政府组织，由王雪斌在新西兰成立，并任主席。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2f0637060eb0e269836a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd67effdb77de446d0e2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f0637060eb0e269836a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q8b336b3c07f1123b39c9","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":127,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-18T02:37:02.667Z","text":"您聪明些。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe61d07662c11dc410f40","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b336b3c07f1123b39c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe61d07662c11dc410f40","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q419ebb1e7eb27320a73e","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":128,"speaker":"xxx***","date":"2026-06-18T02:37:14.724Z","text":"他们要进监狱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd67effdb77de446d0e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q419ebb1e7eb27320a73e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd67effdb77de446d0e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q69155e5c5ccc7d04de5b","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":129,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:37:47.408Z","text":"［用户 xxx***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69155e5c5ccc7d04de5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q6d021eea6b0f30cede52","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":130,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-06-18T02:51:21.599Z","text":"我投資的錢在喜幣裡面，證明沒有被郭文貴用於奢華生活消費，政府的各種主張證據被luc還是誰污染了，大陪審團和陪審團都被誤導了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbe79b64bd5a80b55f7be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d021eea6b0f30cede52","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe79b64bd5a80b55f7be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q7ff080d991841f183a90","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":131,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:52:06.380Z","text":"在这个案子里，联盟农场到底做了什么，根本没有仔细调查过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d021eea6b0f30cede52","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ff080d991841f183a90","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d021eea6b0f30cede52","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q3cb167f686e6fb6c15be","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":132,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:52:32.367Z","text":"他们到底是挪用，还是陷害，还是诈骗，还是什么，普通人根本不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cb167f686e6fb6c15be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qdf86f6cb0dddd61407e3","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":133,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T02:53:01.289Z","text":"这个案子稀里糊涂的就把郭文贵定罪了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf86f6cb0dddd61407e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q3ac2cbb1a050e275dbc1","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":134,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-18T03:16:04.793Z","text":"郭在直播里还说美国政府会把魏戴COSMOS都调查清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ac2cbb1a050e275dbc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qa954588dd6171b51e76d","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":135,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-18T03:18:41.060Z","text":"是调查清楚了，但美国政府就是不起诉那些[屏蔽词]。反过来起诉郭。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q3ac2cbb1a050e275dbc1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa954588dd6171b51e76d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ac2cbb1a050e275dbc1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qc6db264646dc657b001a","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":136,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-06-18T03:24:08.108Z","text":"什麼叫貴賓房間？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6db264646dc657b001a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q738db9ba06db69279613","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":137,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-06-18T03:24:51.163Z","text":"名字白色藍色紅色都有什麼區別？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q738db9ba06db69279613","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qbedd7ad453a8ff330f8a","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":138,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-18T03:25:13.472Z","text":"就是两个可以说其它话题的房间","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6db264646dc657b001a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbedd7ad453a8ff330f8a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6db264646dc657b001a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qe09aecdfd674efd78405","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":139,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-18T03:25:35.582Z","text":"其它颜色我不太清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe09aecdfd674efd78405","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qd6dd26532cb98f74ff11","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":140,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-06-18T03:25:52.453Z","text":"為何x上只要退出一次就不能再進了？這裡面有什麼規則","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6dd26532cb98f74ff11","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人家最开始质疑你句 你要群规一亮 不抓特务 有点理性的都服 谁也没法证明谁是特务 就是一个观点 随人便 去中心化嘛  最开始扯东扯西的是你 不断转移话题跟人搅 胡闹拉一派打一派搞投票 我劝你句 你转头跟我搅  然后最后一看最终还是没办法把所有人统一思想回到你希望的那个感觉 啪嚓一甩群规 双规元凶   你这至少给旁观者看着相当不合适 你们翻案友之间多少能包容也许？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dec3b521d01047ba8bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q4f5058031fae43d76906","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":144,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-18T03:36:46.201Z","text":"无所谓 反正有骂人群","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8dec3b521d01047ba8bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f5058031fae43d76906","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dec3b521d01047ba8bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q35f299e0589e9dfea48f","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":145,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-18T03:38:19.081Z","text":"问这个有啥意思。。。真盗他号的能说 俺盗了号？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea6e2481f2bea2814061","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35f299e0589e9dfea48f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea6e2481f2bea2814061","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q92fb5638f64016c3ff5f","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":146,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:38:21.301Z","text":"我哪有拉一派打一派？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8dec3b521d01047ba8bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92fb5638f64016c3ff5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dec3b521d01047ba8bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q501f57104ad40c50a837","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":147,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:38:36.874Z","text":"你觉得他们不是一派的？我是让他们互相帮助","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q501f57104ad40c50a837","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qe41795bfc3b56f10da7b","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":148,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:39:01.092Z","text":"搞投票，是因为这群是自由民主啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe41795bfc3b56f10da7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qfbd8767adc53fa25182a","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":149,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:39:07.517Z","text":"投票不是很正常？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbd8767adc53fa25182a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q8f6602a0548280813b95","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":150,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:39:25.695Z","text":"我们经常投票","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f6602a0548280813b95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q32105a65e397f4438c54","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":151,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:39:34.584Z","text":"娱乐吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32105a65e397f4438c54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q78dbb666519258a7fa25","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":152,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:39:38.857Z","text":"不要这么严肃","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78dbb666519258a7fa25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qe547427ba408d81f758b","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":153,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:40:14.843Z","text":"再说这群也不是翻案群啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe547427ba408d81f758b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qed453e4f9b3f46919cde","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":154,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:40:24.344Z","text":"这是郭文贵案件讨论群","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed453e4f9b3f46919cde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q1a0da444f2a1fbf10ed4","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":155,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-18T03:41:26.932Z","text":"不管怎么说，你把Q某踢走就很过分了。他对郭案的分析比其他人强很多！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed453e4f9b3f46919cde","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a0da444f2a1fbf10ed4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed453e4f9b3f46919cde","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q10e42e76022544e55466","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":156,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:41:37.531Z","text":"没有踢走他","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a0da444f2a1fbf10ed4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10e42e76022544e55466","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a0da444f2a1fbf10ed4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qfa84969a3d38594b24f3","batc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立个威呗 没事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d5da7f29b5fbb264f28","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ac84b10f326c45a46cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d5da7f29b5fbb264f28","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qb8775bfd83ec8053afe4","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":161,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-18T03:43:23.665Z","text":"群主大度","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8775bfd83ec8053afe4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q913c0ae571d5c08223ea","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":162,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-18T03:44:47.622Z","text":"群主不需要立威。\n我的早就说过，在这里，群主的权力大过习近平。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q913c0ae571d5c08223ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q2db51aaefee7da95a9af","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":163,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-18T03:45:10.147Z","text":"那就是 表现不好的 人肯定得敲打敲打 没有规矩不成方圆儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q913c0ae571d5c08223ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2db51aaefee7da95a9af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q913c0ae571d5c08223ea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q902d384a50de09035903","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":164,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:45:25.556Z","text":"这群早就有群规，不抓特务了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2db51aaefee7da95a9af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q902d384a50de09035903","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2db51aaefee7da95a9af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q0fdbef6a0e489cb0cbff","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":165,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:45:54.843Z","text":"不在没有证据的情况下指控别人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fdbef6a0e489cb0cbff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qffcfcbdc5a579ee6465f","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":166,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:46:32.841Z","text":"最近抓特务的风气好像特别旺盛啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffcfcbdc5a579ee6465f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q7d912cac6629a693009f","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":167,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:46:44.782Z","text":"自从螺丝哥平安归来之后","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d912cac6629a693009f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qa1a7aeb7a055563eb9b9","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":168,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-18T03:46:50.393Z","text":"如果有不同的見解都不行的話，［用户 him***］ 閣下也應該把自己變成紅色，剛才是你與Q在辯論🫣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1a7aeb7a055563eb9b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qd80b596524f7f0e8a53e","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":169,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-18T03:47:06.283Z","text":"那您可真大度 过了这么久才红字他  跟他谆谆规劝良久 还搞民主投票劝他悔改  回头可真的让他给你道个歉您说是不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0fdbef6a0e489cb0cbff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd80b596524f7f0e8a53e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fdbef6a0e489cb0cbff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qf9e5c969304bdecfa55c","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":170,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-18T03:47:07.497Z","text":"抓不抓特务也叫群规？分析一下谁是不是特务，也无所谓。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q902d384a50de09035903","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9e5c969304bdecfa55c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q902d384a50de09035903","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qa828172777b7cf6d0184","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":171,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:47:23.600Z","text":"但是有群规啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf9e5c969304bdecfa55c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa828172777b7cf6d0184","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9e5c969304bdecfa55c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qb0a8e1880a6886cb58c6","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":172,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:47:27.154Z","text":"第三条","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a8e1880a6886cb58c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q519975cc77977d5bfddd","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":173,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-18T03:47:40.961Z","text":"对 人家多大度","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q519975cc77977d5bfddd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q1cb222e61d192d6c7502","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":174,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-18T03:48:21.346Z","text":"翻翻记录 他俩斗嘴多久了 投票多久了 这才贵宾房接待他 缓刑之长 可见包青天之范儿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cb222e61d192d6c7502","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qfae94251ca410bf7c3f7","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":175,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-18T03:48:41.026Z","text":"我小人了 我认为第一时间应该说不该抓特务的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfae94251ca410bf7c3f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qd078219197155dce5359","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":176,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:49:20.774Z","text":"这么说，都是我一直心太软","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfae94251ca410bf7c3f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd078219197155dce5359","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfae94251ca410bf7c3f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qb2944e7628c31ed57434","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":177,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:49:33.326Z","text":"给的机会太多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2944e7628c31ed57434","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qc0a8998fb42dcad72ad5","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":178,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:49:48.610Z","text":"是应该改正，做人不能太善良","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0a8998fb42dcad72ad5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q886de78cd8ef6b5dfece","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":179,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-18T03:50:11.263Z","text":"從頭到尾沒人說特務兩字，不知道您老的理解能力出了問題🤭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q886de78cd8ef6b5dfece","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qbc0eb33bda32edb59c22","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":180,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-18T03:51:19.385Z","text":"有一说一 人说了应该是 质疑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q886de78cd8ef6b5dfece","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc0eb33bda32edb59c22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q886de78cd8ef6b5dfece","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qbcaadc9a0ddd0c3bb98e","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":181,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T03:51:46.689Z","text":"3. 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\n請將Q請返來🙏👍\nQ沒講粗口沒刷頻，\n你這是辯不過人，技不如人！\n老羞成怒🤭🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbba56cd753d2fbf5deaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qccd98f13fa1109155499","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":183,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-18T04:00:23.205Z","text":"第三条群规有点莫名奇妙。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccd98f13fa1109155499","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q37d5ea29612dff2dfb4c","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":184,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-18T04:01:09.610Z","text":"对了  不能质疑特务是律法明定  可以质疑某账户被盗号吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37d5ea29612dff2dfb4c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q1589ee860c3b181fece5","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":185,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-18T04:02:05.929Z","text":"对于案件讨论有贡献的人， 如果大家愿意，我们可以开另外一个群。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1589ee860c3b181fece5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qbde44663e21542fe8c8c","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":186,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-18T04:03:18.174Z","text":"你们谁开，我就加入。可以私信我","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbde44663e21542fe8c8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qe45f25a9588598b125ad","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":187,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-18T04:03:34.541Z","text":"这个第三条群规，应该是对群里的人贴标签这类行为才应该算吧。比如说吴征是特务，说灭共演员是未注册代理人也是违反群规？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe45f25a9588598b125ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qec159e23162716a93fc9","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":188,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-18T04:04:16.992Z","text":"Q 对于这个案件的讨论 贡献非凡。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec159e23162716a93fc9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q9cfa6ad1b1c6621c868b","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":189,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-18T04:04:38.528Z","text":"请群主把他请回。谢谢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cfa6ad1b1c6621c868b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qb9058e20afc682599d53","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":190,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-06-18T04:06:00.938Z","text":"严格掰扯肯定算 吴征好歹跟中共大排场明面上往来算多 严格讲也不算实证  比如[删节：隐私信息] 有什么证据能说这人是特务？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qe45f25a9588598b125ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9058e20afc682599d53","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe45f25a9588598b125ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qc6a71077ae0b669e4ba2","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":191,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-06-18T04:07:08.485Z","text":"像[删节：隐私信息]那样的货才该踢出去，对于郭案有帮助的不该踢走，人难免有纷争，其实要看什么事","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6a71077ae0b669e4ba2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q88794b946d26b74072db","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":192,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-06-18T04:09:30.660Z","text":"作为群主，本该在有争执初期就应该建议去到另一个房间对峙，而不是争执了好久在踢人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88794b946d26b74072db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qabfbca04ce778830f9f9","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":193,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-18T04:09:55.802Z","text":"这才是本群的灵魂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabfbca04ce778830f9f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qb38a43ad00a6585c23cc","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":194,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-06-18T04:11:24.678Z","text":"如果大家有争执，其实就该一开始自觉去到另一个房间，这里毕竟是讨论郭案的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb38a43ad00a6585c23cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q10ace23771b38274d17b","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":195,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-18T04:12:24.080Z","text":"没有诽谤 指控 抓特务 贴标签 郭案不可能被我们打崩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10ace23771b38274d17b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qd0c532cbd3f5a54eef2e","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":196,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-18T04:13:56.793Z","text":"你们认为谁是特务 就大胆说出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0c532cbd3f5a54eef2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"qf2ff2da900d4e080bc4e","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":197,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-18T04:14:29.468Z","text":"群建立的当初，瑞恩天天骂人、说粗口，我很怀念当初的时光🤪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2ff2da900d4e080bc4e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q8ce41ae9bbe00e817326","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":198,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T04:19:25.006Z","text":"你随意","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1589ee860c3b181fece5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ce41ae9bbe00e817326","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1589ee860c3b181fece5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"},{"id":"q6ccb9df9de5f1cc921ac","batch_id":"batch-000121","seq":199,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-18T04:20:07.517Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 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这是群规，从现在开始，严格执行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad8a9411b783a210cde1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000121"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000120","next_batch_id":"batch-000122"}