{"id":"batch-000123","number":123,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-06-20T04:40:28.241Z","date_end":"2026-06-22T00:13:35.021Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 123 (Jun 20, 2026 – Jun 22, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Batch 123 discourse focused on two streams: appellate procedure and evidentiary reliability. Participants disputed service mechanics, document handling, and whether defects could be cured, while separately contesting loss computations through Doc 700, Doc 716-4, Doc 716-2, Doc 441, and Doc 439 with related transcript references. They also argued over victim count figures (218 versus 126), cross-border funding claims, and third-party procedural entry points, but no shared resolution emerged across 6/29 and 629 timelines. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Service and procedural flow in second appellate filing became a dispute: paper and email service and whether cure could be concurrent","description":"Participants disputed whether filing delivery and correction mechanics in the second appeal were harmless compliance issues or contested grounds for re-evaluating prior rulings. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q92c64c1d00591efccdc2","q61925bd73d4dc07c697d","q0d2ceac88c8f454afac1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q92c64c1d00591efccdc2","summary_en":"A participant said they filed the item on the final page of the main packet and reported no problem. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q61925bd73d4dc07c697d","summary_en":"The same participant said an unqualified filing would trigger a clerical correction notice by mail, so the issue was not treated as immediately fatal. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0d2ceac88c8f454afac1","summary_en":"They then advised others to use the materials above, implying a standard form or guidance was already available. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence chain and courtroom record language were repeatedly disassembled, with Document 700 and 716-4 treated as the key verification points","description":"Participants repeatedly argued through exhibit wording and chain-of-custody logic, claiming that evidentiary meaning turned on whether Doc 700 and 716-4 were trusted as the core benchmarks. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q7689fb16d93670b6589f","q7a03e5bedc0072084c67","q301664fcf4e90c8a0d14"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7689fb16d93670b6589f","summary_en":"One participant claimed the focus should shift away from a person and toward Document 700 as the central reference point. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7a03e5bedc0072084c67","summary_en":"Another message asserted the group could only rely on what Guo had told them, contesting independent interpretation of the materials. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q301664fcf4e90c8a0d14","summary_en":"A detailed contribution argued that Doc 441 and Doc 439 showed Hinton’s expert work as non-tracing, government-defined classification rather than independent analysis, and contrasted that with probable-cause assertions in Doc 716-2. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether a self-initiating party or victim can “take the stage” remained in dispute","description":"Participants contested if a private instigator or victim had meaningful standing to argue in the case, including whether rights under U.S. law require their participation versus limits on courtroom role. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q342086c48701a0c77931","qaa819d3149703c32bb37","qb128998e136c6788c69e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q342086c48701a0c77931","summary_en":"A participant asked why support was not being offered, framing a dispute over who should be permitted to back the case. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qaa819d3149703c32bb37","summary_en":"Another participant countered by invoking U.S. legal rights as the basis for participation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qb128998e136c6788c69e","summary_en":"A third participant claimed that in a “judicial battle,” someone must still appear in court to state the truth. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"\"Help him\" versus \"fronting for him\" stayed contentious, with motive and accountability claims mutually denied","description":"Participants argued over whether a speaker was helping in good faith or merely taking over a rhetorical shell, with each side disputing transfer of responsibility for the legal strategy. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q95bd120a1509aad47736","q8eea64c482de98a20f56","q8ea2e98dd65a5db481e4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q95bd120a1509aad47736","summary_en":"A participant challenged another for helping Screw, framing this as a contested intent issue. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8eea64c482de98a20f56","summary_en":"The targeted user denied moving the stay argument and disputed having expressed any position on it. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8ea2e98dd65a5db481e4","summary_en":"A reply accused them of taking the \"help him\" role, deepening a dispute over who represented whose position. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Group governance and speech boundaries escalated, with arguments over whether a separate room could ban abuse and whether ongoing insults were allowed","description":"Participants contended that rule boundaries were unclear, with one side calling for restricted discussion channels and another objecting that a single room without explicit group rules could allow free-spirited exchanges. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qfdcb16798e160a44285d","q7d4ba75ec9e0d2ba6780","q89b4931885846774c579"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qfdcb16798e160a44285d","summary_en":"One participant said frequent speakers had been flagged and directed to place posts in a dedicated case room while curbing off-topic banter there. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7d4ba75ec9e0d2ba6780","summary_en":"Another participant argued the group had originally been non-confrontational. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q89b4931885846774c579","summary_en":"A later participant responded that a single room with no explicit rules was a reasonable alternative. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Identity-chain inference spread, with sustained disputes over links involving Screw Brother and Tony","description":"Participants argued over identity-link conjectures, from whether Tony was an alias to who authored key motions, and kept contesting whether those chain inferences were evidentiary or speculative. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qd1015ddc53cfaf6f0444","q8bc25fe4f5267ce0d4bc","q42b43d53f58f5e0e9d21"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd1015ddc53cfaf6f0444","summary_en":"A participant suggested Tony might be a proxy for Screw. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8bc25fe4f5267ce0d4bc","summary_en":"Another responded by asking who the person in question was. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q42b43d53f58f5e0e9d21","summary_en":"A third participant said others believed Screw’s motions were written by the same person, a claim explicitly disputed by others. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Attack motive became personalized, with religious and character labels replacing sustained fact-checking","description":"Participants argued in personality terms, frequently framing intent through religious and behavioral labels rather than continuing line-by-line evidence analysis. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q243a49cf55c519949610","qf5cd96c8bb43781ae918","q2bd12d4459a549eb0383"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q243a49cf55c519949610","summary_en":"One participant stated that Screw is a Christian, introducing identity labeling into the dispute. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf5cd96c8bb43781ae918","summary_en":"Another asked directly about the participant’s religious faith, extending the personalization trend. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2bd12d4459a549eb0383","summary_en":"A response of \"one path\" was offered, signaling ideological alignment language over evidentiary detail. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim list size and amount integrity were not unified, with 218 and 126-name versions repeatedly colliding","description":"Participants disputed the authenticity and scope of the victim roster and loss figures, contesting whether 218 or 126 individuals were the correct count and whether cited names reflected actual group members. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q06306fb83eea069797b6","qaaa5d1f8f9522b97b80f","q231e0ead2e37966406bd"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q06306fb83eea069797b6","summary_en":"A participant asserted that the total was 218. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qaaa5d1f8f9522b97b80f","summary_en":"Another said a posted list showed 126 names, contesting the earlier figure. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q231e0ead2e37966406bd","summary_en":"A further participant said none of the people they personally knew were among those in the group, challenging list provenance. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Cross-border funding narratives became mutually exclusive and remained unresolved","description":"Participants disputed whether the case involved a real foreign-trade laundering structure, with one side citing a wash-trade interpretation and another side relying on hearing testimony saying no direct \"domestic-to-US\" mechanism was established. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q04732f59e65bae4ea163","q359f975be8b2ebebcca3","qec586d49cd866317fbf7"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q04732f59e65bae4ea163","summary_en":"One participant claimed the HCN 60USD activity looked like a wash-trade profit model. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q359f975be8b2ebebcca3","summary_en":"Another participant argued that omitting the issue would amount to fully overturning Guo’s case, a high-stakes assertion the group did not settle. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qec586d49cd866317fbf7","summary_en":"A participant cited eight trial days from 2024-06-17 to 06-27 and said no witness described the domestic-to-U.S. transfer mechanism for “yuan-cow/agent/foreign trade/crypto wash,” contesting the laundering narrative. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"After third-party involvement, discussion shifted to procedural alternatives via CVRA, Rule 32, Fatico, and conflict-free counsel","description":"Participants argued that third parties could supplement the record on CVRA, Rule 32, Fatico, and appellate integrity, while disputing that they could directly control defense strategy or formally litigate Brady/Napue claims. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q11a554bbecd5f05a51ba","q80e47ddb80c6375be410","q643da5517da9eec464aa"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q11a554bbecd5f05a51ba","summary_en":"A participant requested independent conflict counsel review, saying current defense counsel should be sidelined from newly raised issues rather than replaced immediately. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q80e47ddb80c6375be410","summary_en":"Another laid out a stepwise proposal for Tony to add record materials under CVRA, Rule 32/Fatico, and conflict-free review, while expressly denying defense control and substitution as goals. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q643da5517da9eec464aa","summary_en":"A participant argued Doc 716-4 itself shows layered cross-border funds, yet criticized reliance on a non-tracing, government-defined model and said this was a Brady/Napue-adjacent record-integrity challenge. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Later timing and outcome expectations centered on 6/29, 629, and end-of-year resolution expectations","description":"Participants argued over process timing, including whether 629 marked the substantive start and whether 6/29 was a meaningful checkpoint, and they disputed whether any settlement would occur without compensation by year-end. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q5b18c5b11a2456bf31a1","q8eb1bf8a2a3c72d25733","qfe28bbc2b95ea64b690b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5b18c5b11a2456bf31a1","summary_en":"One participant said they were unsure whether 629 would involve sentencing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8eb1bf8a2a3c72d25733","summary_en":"Another countered that 629 was only the beginning, signaling disagreement on timeline interpretation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfe28bbc2b95ea64b690b","summary_en":"A final participant predicted no settlement and no compensation outcome at least from that perspective. Community statements, not court 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和青藤 切换时，产生的一个名单。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6f71973f9cf9b2b47e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q7c50bdf726bd3828d5c1","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":610,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-20T22:43:02.386Z","text":"其中不乏我最初到这群里来时，集中火力攻击我的一些名人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c50bdf726bd3828d5c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q06306fb83eea069797b6","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":611,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-20T22:43:06.538Z","text":"一共218个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06306fb83eea069797b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qaaa5d1f8f9522b97b80f","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":612,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-20T22:43:46.589Z","text":"这[删节：成员身份]发的是126人名单。罗伊！？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q08610844fffc0ddf7506","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaaa5d1f8f9522b97b80f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q26edcf0cfe5bb26b6394","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":613,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-20T22:43:48.845Z","text":"有来这个群的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c50bdf726bd3828d5c1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26edcf0cfe5bb26b6394","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c50bdf726bd3828d5c1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q231e0ead2e37966406bd","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":614,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-20T22:44:50.450Z","text":"我认识的那几个，一个都没来这群里。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26edcf0cfe5bb26b6394","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q231e0ead2e37966406bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26edcf0cfe5bb26b6394","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qb7ab48d5367ee0ed073d","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":615,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-20T22:46:23.175Z","text":"是正常人，都至少应该来悄悄来看看。但那几个，一个都没来。（至少没看到过在这公开打字聊天）","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26edcf0cfe5bb26b6394","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7ab48d5367ee0ed073d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26edcf0cfe5bb26b6394","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q78808b9ac6a62658467a","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":616,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-20T22:47:26.024Z","text":"是指在原农场时，攻击阻止我劝大家来看看这群。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c50bdf726bd3828d5c1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78808b9ac6a62658467a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c50bdf726bd3828d5c1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qe3fd4d6dfa2abe1a2838","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":617,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-20T22:47:40.365Z","text":"Mountains 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最初在喜联储发的客户邮件吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q403f701ca53d0779613e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q70371ab8cd3f58e31caf","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":621,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-20T23:52:53.806Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70371ab8cd3f58e31caf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q84b57e87d656f906374e","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":622,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-06-20T23:59:21.929Z","text":"https://x.com/mari43098248/status/2036031613868658734?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84b57e87d656f906374e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q7dac51be342d677ae352","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":623,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T00:00:06.624Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/2068484025434685649?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dac51be342d677ae352","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q7cd4cd1723e9271ab321","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":624,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-21T00:01:48.860Z","text":"郭是香港国箱吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06cd98119560450a6a84","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cd4cd1723e9271ab321","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06cd98119560450a6a84","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q6eb6c9cd6ff9b60cafd1","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":625,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T00:06:59.965Z","text":"中国是不作数的 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根本定不了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97aff1a3e78c40a31811","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q1bbf8b322f9dd78d78cb","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":628,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T00:10:34.410Z","text":"最多能定个诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bbf8b322f9dd78d78cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q8f7de9ae517b1e9f1cf2","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":629,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T00:14:03.461Z","text":"这个案子已经完了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f7de9ae517b1e9f1cf2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q4b9723bd7e714dc2198a","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":630,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T00:14:06.395Z","text":"资金源头","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b9723bd7e714dc2198a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q67e8b72103f77153d7f7","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":631,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T00:14:10.312Z","text":"这个事情一旦扯出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67e8b72103f77153d7f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qb91b12e586d6fe30dc87","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":632,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T00:14:18.340Z","text":"检方的所有叙述全部完蛋","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb91b12e586d6fe30dc87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q5749cc8389c5798a132f","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":633,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-21T00:18:29.045Z","text":"这算是农场借贷的证据了！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5749cc8389c5798a132f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q32a74e070595f2736052","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":634,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-21T00:23:22.402Z","text":"716-4 是啥文件呀？比733还早？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q01e93778c5424db3c6d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32a74e070595f2736052","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01e93778c5424db3c6d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q7aa2a8fc5e72e2d3d9cd","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":635,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T00:30:16.671Z","text":"是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32a74e070595f2736052","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aa2a8fc5e72e2d3d9cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32a74e070595f2736052","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q3f2080c2d5eee66dad2d","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":636,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-21T00:33:34.866Z","text":"托雷斯自己是抹不开脸撤定罪的，换个另外 的法官才好提出来🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f2080c2d5eee66dad2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q0096c52bdde42536b4fe","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":637,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-21T01:25:11.292Z","text":"虾头和哈恩\n两个双簧演了好几年\n虾头说的退款，其实就类比Sara Wei退公平基金，因为是swift直接电汇，有合同，能追溯\n对敲的，通过黄牛的，查不到，就被类似虾头这类农场主吞了\n哈恩演，就是摁死通过韩国日本那个渠道，没有投资成功的，不要去郭案法庭闹事，因为会拆穿检方辩方说的，农场主们只听郭指挥，是agent\nhttps://x.com/xiatouj20547/status/2067879431079620965?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0096c52bdde42536b4fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q8b0cb8bf2b2cd0745adb","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":638,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-21T01:50:27.533Z","text":"群里还有谁被非法代表成了受害人， 或者在受害者名单里？我写了份声明供参考，如果用，让我知道\n\n这些人要要求法庭指派独立第三方审核该名单， 并且每个“受害人“ 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B了哈！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c8fb43c048232cf43eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90d3b7f11e17fa6ff2f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c8fb43c048232cf43eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q7dee9df7ab55b4b19f1b","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":756,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-21T04:18:45.834Z","text":"第二条第一句话不对吧？夏是打着支持者的旗号，而不是受害者的旗号","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7513eb1e95f5c925362b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dee9df7ab55b4b19f1b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7513eb1e95f5c925362b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q59bc527f2be2d8ab60bd","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":757,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-21T05:28:10.864Z","text":"阿哲就是滅爆組的人，[删节：成员身份]說的。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8f206dd54417bf41f440","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59bc527f2be2d8ab60bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f206dd54417bf41f440","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q61aecb12b77ef9ee5a44","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":758,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-06-21T05:33:00.473Z","text":"我在名单上。可能是因为点了个赞。当时长岛和青藤在争夺联盟权力，有个支持长岛的主席令啥的公告，点过赞的就被人列名单里了。当时还觉得长岛是好人。后来才发现长岛有问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26edcf0cfe5bb26b6394","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61aecb12b77ef9ee5a44","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26edcf0cfe5bb26b6394","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q0b46106e73c7e1719aff","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":759,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-21T05:49:01.156Z","text":"阿哲 文乐","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59bc527f2be2d8ab60bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b46106e73c7e1719aff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59bc527f2be2d8ab60bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q5f324dad85ce1508cd3c","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":760,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-21T05:49:14.413Z","text":"一个庭审受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f324dad85ce1508cd3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q9595026e6eb45e4b53ae","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":761,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-21T05:49:29.482Z","text":"一个场外表演","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9595026e6eb45e4b53ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qe660feca4599957ba01e","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":762,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T05:52:57.649Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2068572791147028872?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe660feca4599957ba01e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q054e10331ba9e76b56b5","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":763,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-21T05:53:15.572Z","text":"即使受害者，也是他们精心挑选","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q054e10331ba9e76b56b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q5b0d3139c1c86a0b7b4e","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":764,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-21T05:54:07.785Z","text":"怕是台词都事先对好了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b0d3139c1c86a0b7b4e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q0c8e32e85033d2f3ffd8","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":765,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-21T05:55:13.884Z","text":"最后文乐 和阿哲 都是推广同意remission","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c8e32e85033d2f3ffd8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q57d9e9cec268b4e2afa7","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":766,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T05:55:27.368Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  tony的东西把你机器跑炸了吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57d9e9cec268b4e2afa7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qb709780276128f809649","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":767,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:10:56.084Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  你现在这个ai是专门负责泼冷水的吧？ 哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb709780276128f809649","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q168e1ebbcda642beedc0","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":768,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:11:27.467Z","text":"他这里说的并不存在 716-4 是庭审之后了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a8b51a4366b6cd71da6","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q168e1ebbcda642beedc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qd1643cf512f1b30eff8f","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":769,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:11:41.374Z","text":"而他隐瞒是庭审的时候","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1643cf512f1b30eff8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q7f21758db36c67a8ed96","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":770,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:14:46.949Z","text":"716-4 检方文件写的很清楚 fbi在2022年就完成了资金模型的调查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f21758db36c67a8ed96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qbe9d8ea8093b1f79a317","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":771,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-21T06:15:03.071Z","text":"樱花不是有签协议吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qefab7bf364eef258d230","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe9d8ea8093b1f79a317","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qd26f77405047939ff4bb","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":772,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:15:05.623Z","text":"没有预设任何立场  纯跑法庭文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd26f77405047939ff4bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qb29c584cd1e2bc7c72ce","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":773,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:15:21.584Z","text":"可能需要对抗一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd26f77405047939ff4bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb29c584cd1e2bc7c72ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd26f77405047939ff4bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qb1e4599a57640e910217","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":774,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:15:23.580Z","text":"可以强立场预设目标跑一次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1e4599a57640e910217","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q73f7c4aef8366d30610a","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":775,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:15:59.310Z","text":"你给个目标 往那个方向跑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73f7c4aef8366d30610a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qaf5059a18907b6de4a4d","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":776,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:18:28.873Z","text":"检方716-4是庭审后的文件 里面介绍了2022年 fbi探员调查了大陆投资者的入金状况 用黄牛 外贸公司等层层代持 混同。 而庭审是2024年，检方在明知资金来源复杂的情况下 故意选择性给专家证人提供了一张简化资金模型图 误导陪审团。这张图掐断了所有资金流入美国前的情况。而检方是明知故犯。 tony挖的这个是否可以直接翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73f7c4aef8366d30610a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf5059a18907b6de4a4d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73f7c4aef8366d30610a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q47854742cae204e842e5","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":777,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-21T06:21:21.478Z","text":"确实如郭所说，辩护律师，最基本的都没有做\n倒是配合演的很好","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd26f77405047939ff4bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47854742cae204e842e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd26f77405047939ff4bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qa0b1bfb4dc7dcf22e331","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":778,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:21:38.022Z","text":"无立场纯法庭文件核查版pdf备份","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0b1bfb4dc7dcf22e331","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qb79581ccae72852ce2a2","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":779,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:22:10.817Z","text":"确实 [删节：成员身份]版律师","edited":true,"reply_to":"q47854742cae204e842e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb79581ccae72852ce2a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47854742cae204e842e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qc876e1165212cbf46c7a","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":780,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:26:30.417Z","text":"核完原文，可以给你一个有依据的回答。先纠一处事实，再回答能不能翻案。\n\n先纠一个关键事实前提\n你说\"716-4 里介绍了 2022 年 FBI 调查大陆投资者用黄牛/外贸公司层层代持\"——这一步对不上原文：\n\n716-4 写的\"复杂性\"是\"支付处理商 + 离岸中转\"层：BSI Group / Reserve Trust / Prime Trust / MBI / Medici Bank，加 UAE/UK/Bahamas/BVI 离岸账户（¶56-57，第 49-52 页）。政府用它来证明洗钱、掩盖来源——这是政府自己的入罪理论。\n而且 716-4 ¶57 白纸黑字说 FBI \"已识别并尝试追踪超过约 $10.4 亿 Investment Scheme Fund 交易\"——政府的立场是**\"能追踪\"**，不是\"复杂到无法追踪\"。\n你说的\"黄牛/外贸公司/团长层层代持\"那一层（RMB→团长→黄牛换汇→美国账户）——716-4 并没有专门写这个。那是 Tony 自己 Dkt 29 账本里的内容（他的提交，lead 层），不是政府文件。\n所以\"政府自己的 716-4 证明他们明知黄牛代持\"这一步——前提就不成立：716-4 证明政府明知的是 payment-processor/offshore 层，不是 China 侧黄牛收款层。\n\n能不能直接翻案：不能。 五个各自独立、任一即挡死的理由\n① 主体错位——Tony 是 victim，没有\"翻案\"的资格。\n\"翻案\"(vacate conviction) 是被告 Guo 的救济（Rule 33 / 上诉 / §2255）。Tony 是 pro se victim，没有 standing 推翻 Guo 的定罪——他自己在 Dkt 35.1 也明说不碰 Brady/Napue（\"那属辩方律师\"）。他挖到的最多是辩方可能捡的弹药，不是他能直接打的翻案牌。\n\n② 当 Napue/Brady 打——要件不成。\n\nNapue（明知用\"虚假\"证据）：核心是\"虚假\"。那张图（GX Z-26/Z12）总结的是真实银行记录，数字是真的。\"简化/掐断流入美国前\"是范围选择，不是虚假。简化 ≠ 虚假。而且专家 Hinton 当庭披露了图的范围（\"wasn't asked to do any tracing\"、\"Sources of Funds\"是政府定义的\"从美国/实体账户层起算\"），辩方还当庭交叉盘问过——披露 + 被盘问 = 不构成\"明知隐瞒\"。\nBrady（压制有利证据）：716-4 是政府主动提交的入罪材料，不是被压制的、对辩方有利的证据；它证明的是洗钱，对 Guo 更不利，方向反了。\n③ 对\"有罪认定\"的 materiality 很弱。\n指控是 Guo 骗投资人、挪用钱（豪宅/游艇/对冲基金）。钱怎么进美国（黄牛/外贸/直接电汇）不改变\"投资人被骗、钱被挪用\"这个核心。上游收款机制是\"how the money came in\"，不是\"whether fraud occurred\"。即便那层没进陪审团，定罪还建立在大量其他证据上（投资人证言、招揽中的虚假陈述、挪用去向）。Guo 2024-07-16 被定 RICO/wire fraud 等 8 项罪，不是靠这一张图。\n\n④ 程序上不是\"newly discovered\"。\n716-4 的内容是 2022 年扣押宣誓书，辩方在审前查封/没收程序早就能接触，不是审后冒出来的新证据。Rule 33 newly-discovered 要求\"尽职调查也无法更早发现\"——过不了；以它为基础大概率 time-barred / defaulted。\n\n⑤ \"明知故犯选简化图\"——这是正常公诉，不是 misconduct。\n检方按自己的理论选 summary chart、从美国端起算，证人当庭披露范围、辩方可盘问——这是对抗制在运作，不是欺骗。\"不完整\"的救济是交叉盘问 + 辩方举证，不是 Napue。\n\n\n\n你看下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7f21758db36c67a8ed96","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc876e1165212cbf46c7a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f21758db36c67a8ed96","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q76c2fdbd0f5116041c21","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":781,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:29:03.396Z","text":"ai咬死第三方没有翻案资格","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76c2fdbd0f5116041c21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q96ddc47e5477cd2209d5","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":782,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:29:13.970Z","text":"这个没关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q76c2fdbd0f5116041c21","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96ddc47e5477cd2209d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76c2fdbd0f5116041c21","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qb26199655a8e91086c1f","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":783,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:30:07.829Z","text":"纯逻辑上 没啥问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb26199655a8e91086c1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qf9d36ce228e3f3dca771","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":784,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:30:30.830Z","text":"选择性呈现","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9d36ce228e3f3dca771","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q820359b0a8305c3809f3","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":785,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:30:33.150Z","text":"不是隐瞒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q820359b0a8305c3809f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q259e95967c05a7a31c29","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":786,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:30:42.297Z","text":"我用词不当","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q259e95967c05a7a31c29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q4c3127a009f91d173243","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":787,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:31:24.534Z","text":"那 Tony 挖的这个到底\"值\"什么\n不是翻案弹药，但有窄的、合法的用处（这也是核查报告的结论）：\n\n量刑 loss 可靠性：辩方走 Rule 32 在地区法院打——但撞 Coppola（loss 只需 reasonable estimate、无需 meticulous tracing），且是被告的事。\nCVRA 记录完整性：victim 走 §3771(a)(4) be-heard，在 6/29 量刑前把\"政府对个体份额没做 exclusive tracing\"这条钉进记录——是\"留一个真问题在卷里\"，不是推翻定罪。\n且必须走窄口径（\"政府对我的份额没 exclusive tracing\"），别打\"政府自相矛盾/明知故犯误导陪审团\"——后者会被 §984/Coppola 当庭一句化解，还反伤可信度。\n一句话：方向上它是个量刑/记录完整性的点，不是翻案的点。把它当\"直接翻案\"对外讲，会被对手用上面任一条击穿。？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c3127a009f91d173243","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q61cb14ed5e1be5b3f18c","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":788,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:32:13.997Z","text":"对 ai也是这个观点 他反对的是强断言","edited":false,"reply_to":"q820359b0a8305c3809f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61cb14ed5e1be5b3f18c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q820359b0a8305c3809f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q278dad3e274e2c2e8567","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":789,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:32:16.905Z","text":"他这个不是reasonable","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c3127a009f91d173243","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q278dad3e274e2c2e8567","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c3127a009f91d173243","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qc45b5d34023fd1735d79","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":790,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:32:27.177Z","text":"我来看看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc45b5d34023fd1735d79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q7cc4a08b20bd113dfa1d","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":791,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:33:32.473Z","text":"你都给你的ai核查下 报告每一点 都标了 法庭文件出处","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cc4a08b20bd113dfa1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qc246d0f83002312d893f","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":792,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:33:46.349Z","text":"不用再大面积搜索","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc246d0f83002312d893f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q4b020c2ccd5a29f450ed","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":793,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:33:56.165Z","text":"对点核查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b020c2ccd5a29f450ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q90d28c4c58947286e080","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":794,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:38:46.342Z","text":"问题应该这么问：是检方在明知资金源头复杂的情况下，选择性呈现给陪审团一个简化资金模型 忽略资金大幅度混同，代持，甚至某些资金有不同跨主权司法定性，误导陪审团。而这个简化模型交给了资金方面最关键的专家证人来呈现。这是否是政府的布雷迪违规，司法欺诈 因为如果展现全部资金流，未上法庭申诉的大量大陆投资者出现，可能会大幅度展现这是政治运动并非诈骗。 而这个因素 庭审因检方的隐瞒并未展现","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90d28c4c58947286e080","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q6a7949d58ad40b05d9aa","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":795,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-21T06:44:19.256Z","text":"你尽你的人情，但不要绑上别人。他做的好有他的目的，他做的一滩烂泥他还能达到目的吗？没人想让你表态，大家只是自由表达，你不要自己给自己找压力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q30411b0e225032d0fdf9","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a7949d58ad40b05d9aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q47119d53498fd8580e9d","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":796,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T06:46:06.476Z","text":"我统计了全程，模型没有偷懒，确实核查了所有源文件，每一个流程都执行了。 是真实的表现。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47119d53498fd8580e9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q3a48788f2f0a9e67aa27","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":797,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-21T06:46:36.919Z","text":"你欠他人情，我们不欠。案子走到今天是大家共同努力的结果，单独靠谁都走不到今天","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a48788f2f0a9e67aa27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q4cdf0cc98128b670b509","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":798,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:55:48.814Z","text":"5. 一句话结论\n\n§984只能加强政府在 forfeiture/tracing 上的地位，但不能自动否定 Tony 关于“loss结构不可靠”的攻击","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cdf0cc98128b670b509","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"q9a875951f495fcd9bc3c","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":799,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-21T06:55:55.577Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  984没啥用","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4cdf0cc98128b670b509","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a875951f495fcd9bc3c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cdf0cc98128b670b509","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"},{"id":"qf6ee4b12a69f66ad7f8a","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":800,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T07:01:19.288Z","text":"这种问 跑的快多了  极限词 会反复来回打浪费时间","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90d28c4c58947286e080","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6ee4b12a69f66ad7f8a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90d28c4c58947286e080","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000122","next_batch_id":"batch-000124"}