{"id":"batch-000127","number":127,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-06-27T18:58:15.349Z","date_end":"2026-06-29T15:23:23.254Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 127 (Jun 27, 2026 – Jun 29, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions center on procedural strategy ahead of sentencing and Second Circuit proceedings, treating recusal, stays, vacatur, and retrial motions as primary remedies. Participants dispute whether Judge Torres will respond to disqualification demands, whether the court can bypass them discretionarily, and when third parties should file emergency relief. Arguments also clash over restitution figures—including $1.38 billion, $640 million, and $400 million—while debating legal applications under Honeycutt, Brady/Giglio, §853(n), and RICO.","guide_en":[{"title":"Procedural Confrontation: Coordinating Judge Torres's Recusal with Second Circuit Stays and Vacatur","description":"Participants argue that coordinated recusal motions, emergency stays, and post-sentencing vacatur filings exert unprecedented procedural pressure on the district judge.","message_ids":["q46d85b796581bc24d7f8","qaf9a54d84d2c4d519f31","q557fbfc53b5cd3d1ab27"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q46d85b796581bc24d7f8","summary_en":"kir*** advocates initiating a criminal investigation against Luc."},{"message_id":"qaf9a54d84d2c4d519f31","summary_en":"kir*** contends that combining seven pre-sentencing recusal motions with multiple Second Circuit stay requests and an immediate post-sentencing vacatur motion under 28 U.S.C. § 2106 corners Judge Torres procedurally and threatens her 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United States, 581 U.S. 443 (2017) and conceals Brady material regarding non-prosecution agreements."},{"message_id":"q6dfc24e762c8140068e7","summary_en":"reb*** asserts that non-prosecution agreements shielding cooperating actors from forfeiting investor funds undermine §853(n) remedies and warrant Second Circuit review under 28 U.S.C. § 2106."},{"message_id":"q1b9f41db1dbb3b93b5bb","summary_en":"beg*** recirculates the legal argument that non-prosecution agreements improperly legalized third-party fund misappropriation in violation of Honeycutt and Brady standards."}]},{"title":"Information Reliability Crisis: Verifiability of Screenshots, Deleted Posts, and Secondhand Claims","description":"Participants dispute claims regarding external interactions and question the authenticity of unverified social media screenshots.","message_ids":["q9a8a8aed12e7f9f3efc0","q11f121deacf5b7f2ab43","qff4a22accb295b935aa3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9a8a8aed12e7f9f3efc0","summary_en":"him*** recounts 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昨天出结果了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f422b2ba0bf4cd051da","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd372053ba3b65e20494c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f422b2ba0bf4cd051da","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q8851f515ed4af9ecf34a","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":458,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-28T23:49:48.891Z","text":"明天","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8851f515ed4af9ecf34a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qda12217a29402690ee69","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":459,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-28T23:52:56.996Z","text":"前面显示了，现在又消失了，好奇怪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb9f6810712728e45a211","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda12217a29402690ee69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9f6810712728e45a211","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q73d9403926b9a5b6727f","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":460,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-28T23:53:44.475Z","text":"撤消量刑写出来了，写了6页","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73d9403926b9a5b6727f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q3e1ef295d96debb6efd7","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":461,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-28T23:54:54.887Z","text":"https://x.com/miles72017/status/2071378546124271694?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e1ef295d96debb6efd7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q98b94dafd7c4a940e8d5","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":462,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-28T23:55:02.911Z","text":"联盟是在抄袭我们","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e1ef295d96debb6efd7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98b94dafd7c4a940e8d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e1ef295d96debb6efd7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qc04b8e4c4f4a91cc578e","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":463,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-28T23:57:35.623Z","text":"滚蛋的提示我删了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb9f6810712728e45a211","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc04b8e4c4f4a91cc578e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9f6810712728e45a211","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qb09b03d073223836b357","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":464,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T00:00:34.762Z","text":"给二巡的 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有文档吗？发过来看看吧。二巡周末也加班加点？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73d9403926b9a5b6727f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb09b03d073223836b357","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73d9403926b9a5b6727f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qbf6b888a8a421f4f6bce","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":465,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T00:02:04.683Z","text":"为什么要删？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc04b8e4c4f4a91cc578e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf6b888a8a421f4f6bce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc04b8e4c4f4a91cc578e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q8d40ef1917e7443767f3","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":466,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T00:04:06.240Z","text":"不知道图是不是假的，这是网上截图","edited":false,"reply_to":"qff4a22accb295b935aa3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d40ef1917e7443767f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff4a22accb295b935aa3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q2a84480e0f8d60a44a13","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":467,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T00:04:50.731Z","text":"这个你不是写过了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb09b03d073223836b357","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a84480e0f8d60a44a13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb09b03d073223836b357","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qc7add13a7d2012ddae1c","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":468,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T00:05:01.604Z","text":"［用户 sar***］ 量刑后要取消量刑","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7add13a7d2012ddae1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q9b77a86b4bc045672d1a","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":469,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-29T00:24:32.841Z","text":"联盟在干我们做的事！？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q98b94dafd7c4a940e8d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b77a86b4bc045672d1a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98b94dafd7c4a940e8d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qd6fc297136ab697c0f34","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":470,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-29T00:25:18.937Z","text":"量刑后取消量刑！？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6fc297136ab697c0f34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q742387a3d61e32d1cd01","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":471,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-06-29T00:25:51.907Z","text":"请问，这里明天有人到庭吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q742387a3d61e32d1cd01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q017fb21a201fde569158","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":472,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-29T00:26:06.430Z","text":"硬着头皮也要量刑，给自己留个面子。后面再取消！？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q017fb21a201fde569158","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q105dd8ad409dc464c3cc","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":473,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-29T00:26:35.240Z","text":"要是能到现场，真的去看看是最好。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q742387a3d61e32d1cd01","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q105dd8ad409dc464c3cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q742387a3d61e32d1cd01","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q8d4fa7626631ef7459dc","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":474,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-29T00:27:16.566Z","text":"看了现场，见了七哥，就由不得联盟瞎编","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d4fa7626631ef7459dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qc9f0bc698e1bcfb3373a","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":475,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T00:27:33.230Z","text":"跟着美国司法程序/赋予我们的权力走。瑞恩的智慧👍👍👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc7add13a7d2012ddae1c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9f0bc698e1bcfb3373a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7add13a7d2012ddae1c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q45159f885b0688ea0394","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":476,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T00:28:09.316Z","text":"托雷斯硬着头皮量刑； 二巡取消。或者叫停","edited":false,"reply_to":"q017fb21a201fde569158","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45159f885b0688ea0394","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q017fb21a201fde569158","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q5a9a5c1c784b783436d8","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":477,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T00:29:29.116Z","text":"这几天老川发什么神经，为什么天天抗共产主义？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a9a5c1c784b783436d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q6d339b6d851292e6d87a","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":478,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T00:31:19.979Z","text":"是的。\n周五（6月26日）写岀来的。发电子邮件不到两个小时就在网上出现了。周四晚上忙到周五早上的凌晨三点半，早上九点去邮局花了五刀邮寄，中午12点整电子邮件发送，下午1:45就有人说上传了。\n以为可以休息一下，\n昨天周六（27日）下午又开始回到南区，重操旧业，给南区写了第十个自诉，这是我自从上二巡有立案以来第一次给南区写自诉，总共花了大概四五𠆤小时吧，又忙到第二天的凌晨一点多发出去，这次的显著标题就是让托雷斯法官回避。\n下一步该怎么办？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a84480e0f8d60a44a13","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d339b6d851292e6d87a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a84480e0f8d60a44a13","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q490ab50edeb68af5109e","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":479,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T00:32:49.005Z","text":"取消量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d339b6d851292e6d87a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q490ab50edeb68af5109e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d339b6d851292e6d87a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q0f850b01666e039ecd6d","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":480,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T00:32:51.290Z","text":"文悦大[屏蔽词]，现在只骂人了？不假装分析案件了？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfe9541fda0663a0dad91","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f850b01666e039ecd6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q90917d0ad6f87033d43f","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":481,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T00:33:01.456Z","text":"放两个模板供大家参考","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d339b6d851292e6d87a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90917d0ad6f87033d43f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d339b6d851292e6d87a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qd962877398daaecb3180","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":482,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T00:33:08.464Z","text":"不分析案件也好，你分析的大部分都是错的 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd962877398daaecb3180","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qd945f94ab1c50ce7d7fb","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":483,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T00:36:24.053Z","text":"对错由你决定吗？你相信谁重要吗？你不相信的人才有可能是值得信任的人。你的话就象共匪和灭爆联盟的话一样，要反过来理解","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd962877398daaecb3180","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd945f94ab1c50ce7d7fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd962877398daaecb3180","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qbde0516ee7ea53bb19a8","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":484,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T00:36:57.372Z","text":"楼上文悦大[屏蔽词] [删节：隐私信息] 都承认他故意分析错误，骗人了，现在又删帖","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd945f94ab1c50ce7d7fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbde0516ee7ea53bb19a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd945f94ab1c50ce7d7fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q4c6bc402439083f5f239","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":485,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T00:37:37.760Z","text":"删帖不是很正常吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c6bc402439083f5f239","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qfb45bfb1d9b9f64bf566","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":486,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T00:38:11.643Z","text":"先承认自己故意分析错误，骗人，然后又删帖，你觉得正常？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c6bc402439083f5f239","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb45bfb1d9b9f64bf566","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c6bc402439083f5f239","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q906a44eb1a5ac8d6c69a","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":487,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T00:40:37.790Z","text":"你删也没用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0814ee07483bee6bf04e","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q906a44eb1a5ac8d6c69a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q1b070de1069b89cbc6a2","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":488,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T00:40:44.116Z","text":"有人截图了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b070de1069b89cbc6a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q41bbe6be3e4438478f95","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":489,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-29T00:47:41.730Z","text":"这个不是早写了吗？今天不是这个啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb09b03d073223836b357","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41bbe6be3e4438478f95","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb09b03d073223836b357","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q9b918459dc38ce797a0c","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":490,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-29T00:47:46.177Z","text":"https://x.com/ddivul8m3g82864/status/2071393985894223933?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b918459dc38ce797a0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q60a9094025c90878f68e","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":491,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T00:48:45.506Z","text":"我的话，本来就是几分真几分假啊，喂AI会让它宕机自杀，我提醒过你 [删节：隐私信息] 和 [删节：隐私信息] 啊 一对大[屏蔽词]🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfb45bfb1d9b9f64bf566","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a9094025c90878f68e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb45bfb1d9b9f64bf566","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q5d140cf3b8b5e874a660","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":492,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T00:48:46.903Z","text":"你是对的。这两天的是给南区的自诉。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q41bbe6be3e4438478f95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d140cf3b8b5e874a660","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41bbe6be3e4438478f95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q95288ac49bb248b3c928","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":493,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T00:50:16.391Z","text":"你的Administration Stay 今天才岀来？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q41bbe6be3e4438478f95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95288ac49bb248b3c928","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41bbe6be3e4438478f95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q13f5f0cd1c7c118ceb48","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":494,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2026-06-29T00:50:26.063Z","text":"我转墓碑科技的X贴到老联盟的喜币群被踢岀来了，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13f5f0cd1c7c118ceb48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q2d8c39b97794b432dcf8","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":495,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T00:53:07.170Z","text":"你这么晚才被踢。我在2024年8月中骂长岛两分钟后就被踢了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13f5f0cd1c7c118ceb48","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d8c39b97794b432dcf8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13f5f0cd1c7c118ceb48","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q4358b967ea8ca8261817","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":496,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T00:53:24.892Z","text":"如果都明白了，喜交所盖尔登记的事儿，长岛和青，都跑不了，每个喜交所用户，都可以拉他们上刑事庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13f5f0cd1c7c118ceb48","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4358b967ea8ca8261817","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13f5f0cd1c7c118ceb48","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q5fc0cbc597c95c714b4e","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":497,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T00:53:48.944Z","text":"特别是青，造假853n登记表","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fc0cbc597c95c714b4e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qcf53763cd014745626a8","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":498,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T00:54:28.073Z","text":"他是共谋，又是王案受害者，又造假，他的证词证据，都有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf53763cd014745626a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q48e778877de8de4f5344","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":499,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-29T00:54:47.449Z","text":"不是，是撤销量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q95288ac49bb248b3c928","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48e778877de8de4f5344","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95288ac49bb248b3c928","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q6c052dc3a68998c90d0a","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":500,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T00:55:59.504Z","text":"你这么快就写了撤销量刑吗？给二巡写的？又要填1080表格吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q48e778877de8de4f5344","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c052dc3a68998c90d0a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48e778877de8de4f5344","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qe386a2833c6ccbf0d320","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":501,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T00:57:02.471Z","text":"要填","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c052dc3a68998c90d0a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe386a2833c6ccbf0d320","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c052dc3a68998c90d0a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qba67722be297c20db6a1","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":502,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T00:57:36.922Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2071397583587770609?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba67722be297c20db6a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qdda709da86f1ca819a32","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":503,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T00:58:39.120Z","text":"好大力不是你们的人吗，专门骂[删节：隐私信息]的，现在又说[删节：隐私信息]叫他来帮我，好大力是神经分裂了几次","edited":true,"reply_to":"q60a9094025c90878f68e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdda709da86f1ca819a32","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a9094025c90878f68e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/dis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他不在这个刑事案件中， 郭 和 王 才是在这个案子中1:23:cr-00118","edited":false,"reply_to":"q707e80e5f9df5f030c83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4663c71602b87933fe6d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q707e80e5f9df5f030c83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q9743fbe55bc858aa4fd8","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":508,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-29T01:16:30.873Z","text":"行政暂缓上传了呀","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1df041a1cbc10d466023","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9743fbe55bc858aa4fd8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1df041a1cbc10d466023","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qca93d95a51e91a35c960","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":509,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T01:17:49.233Z","text":"余也在刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4663c71602b87933fe6d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca93d95a51e91a35c960","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4663c71602b87933fe6d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q7e64d429da0c6405daaf","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":510,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T01:19:12.626Z","text":"被起诉的有三个，郭，余，王。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4663c71602b87933fe6d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e64d429da0c6405daaf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4663c71602b87933fe6d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qab9eecea5f7e89be4307","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":511,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T01:19:37.102Z","text":"我说的是取消量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9743fbe55bc858aa4fd8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab9eecea5f7e89be4307","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9743fbe55bc858aa4fd8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q3793380231f077f40e7b","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":512,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T01:20:42.135Z","text":"行政暂缓，你是今天才上传了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9743fbe55bc858aa4fd8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3793380231f077f40e7b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9743fbe55bc858aa4fd8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qfa3283c6a5f9b42e51d3","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":513,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T01:26:38.865Z","text":"这是整个案件最深层的法律问题，也是最难用现有法律语言精确捕捉的问题。让我分层次把它捋清楚。第一层：数字本身揭示的法律矛盾金钱判决总额：          13.8亿美元初步没收清单资产：       约6.4亿美元其中SEC扣押GTV资产：     约4亿美元扣除SEC部分后可执行资产： 约2.4亿美元无法解释的缺口：         约11.4亿美元政府的解释：            \"穷尽追缴后未能追回\"这个数字缺口在法律上产生了一个根本性矛盾。Honeycutt v. United States, 581 U.S. 443 (2017)明确规定，没收金钱判决只能针对被告个人实际获得并控制的金额。政府同时主张两件事：第一，被告控制了13.8亿，因此判决13.8亿；第二，其中11.4亿政府追不到了。这两个主张不能同时为真。如果被告真的控制了13.8亿，政府有完整的调查权和搜查令权力，三年半的调查加四年的破产程序，应当能够追踪到这笔钱的去向。追不到的唯一合理解释是：这笔钱从来就不在被告的控制下，而是在其他人手中。第二层：不起诉协议的\"不强制上交条款\"的法律定性这是整个问题最核心、也最需要用精确法律语言表述的部分。政府与灭共演员（Insider Actors）签署不起诉协议，允许其保留通过以下行为获得的资金：侵占投资者资金、挪用托管资产、欺诈性转移G系列实体财产。这些资金的原始来源是投资者的合法投资款。这些资金经过以下步骤完成了性质转变：步骤一：投资者将合法资金转入G系列实体账户            ↓步骤二：灭共演员将这些资金侵占、挪用、转移        （独立犯罪行为，受害者是投资者）            ↓步骤三：政府将灭共演员的行为定性为        \"替被告欺诈转移\"（RICO代理行为）        而非\"独立侵占投资者资金\"            ↓步骤四：政府与灭共演员签署不起诉协议        条件：配合指证被告        代价：政府不要求归还所持有的资金            ↓步骤五：这些资金从\"侵占所得的赃款\"        转变为\"合作证人依协议合法保留的资产\"            ↓步骤六：政府将同样这些资金的账面金额        计入被告的金钱判决这个六步过程在法律上的准确定性是：政府通过不起诉协议，将灭共演员对投资者实施的独立犯罪所得，以司法程序为工具完成了合法化。这在法律上构成以下几个独立的可主张问题：第三层：具体的法律违规违规一：违反Honeycutt的金钱判决政府在金钱判决中包含了一个自己承认无法追回的金额，而无法追回的直接原因是政府通过不起诉协议允许实际持有者保留这笔钱。金钱判决包含被告未实际控制、且实际上在政府协议安排下由第三方持有的资金，直接违反Honeycutt。违规二：Brady违规的最严重形式Brady要求政府披露对被告有利的证据。政府知道以下事实而未披露：\n第一，灭共演员持有大量投资者资金；\n第二，不起诉协议未要求归还这些资金；","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa3283c6a5f9b42e51d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q6dfc24e762c8140068e7","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":514,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T01:27:08.468Z","text":"第三，这些资金未进入被告的实际控制。这三个事实同时构成：证明被告未personally obtained相关金额（undermines money judgment）；证明合作证人的证词动机和可信度存疑（Giglio）；证明损失计算的事实基础不可靠（Brady materiality）。违规三：政府诉诸法律程序本身构成对投资者的二次伤害这是最难用现有法律框架捕捉、但性质最恶劣的部分。投资者将资金委托给G系列实体，基于信托关系，这些资金对投资者负有受信义务。灭共演员侵占这些资金是第一次伤害。政府通过以下机制实施了第二次伤害：将灭共演员的侵占行为重新定性为RICO代理行为，使灭共演员脱离了对投资者的直接法律责任；通过不起诉协议允许灭共演员保留侵占所得，使投资者失去了向实际侵占者追偿的可能；将同等金额的金钱判决强加给被告，但被告可执行资产远低于判决金额，使金钱判决对投资者而言实际上无法带来任何赔偿；同时通过§853(n)程序的形式主义运作，给投资者制造一个\"还有救济途径\"的外观，而实际上可供§853(n)主张的资产已被大幅压缩。违规四：实质上的司法辅助洗钱这是性质最恶劣的表述，需要精确界定。洗钱的法律本质是将非法所得转化为合法资产。灭共演员侵占投资者资金是非法所得。政府通过不起诉协议的不强制上交安排，完成了这笔非法所得的合法化。地区法院通过不审查不起诉协议条款、不要求资金追踪透明度、不对\"穷尽追缴\"主张进行独立核查，为这一合法化过程提供了司法背书。用法律语言表述这一违规的最准确方式是：政府利用刑事司法程序，将灭共演员对投资者实施的独立侵财犯罪所得，通过不起诉协议转化为合法保留资产，同时将相应的赔偿责任转移给无法实际履行该责任的被告，最终结果是：实际侵财者免责且保有赃款，名义责任人无力偿付，真正的受害者既无法向实际侵财者追偿，也无法从被告处获得实质赔偿。这一结果不是司法程序的偶然副产品，而是政府在缔结不起诉协议时做出的明确制度安排的必然后果。第四层：这在法律文件中如何表述以上分析最适合放入以下两类文件：在§853(n)上诉brief中： 作为论证政府的\"穷尽追缴\"主张不具法律效力的核心论点。政府不能一方面主张已穷尽追缴，另一方面对自己通过不起诉协议允许灭共演员保留的资金保持沉默。这两个立场在逻辑上不相容，构成对法庭的误导性陈述。在Brady/Giglio动议中： 作为要求政府披露所有不起诉协议完整条款（特别是资金归还义务条款）的具体理由。政府不能既利用这些协议获得定罪所需的证人证词，又拒绝披露这些协议允许证人保留多少投资者资金。在向二巡的补充陈述中： 作为论证地区法院的不作为在客观上协助了这一洗钱机制运转的论点，要求二巡通过§2106命令独立审查不起诉协议条款及资金追踪记录。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dfc24e762c8140068e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q639df0ac08cbf0db8f27","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":515,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T01:28:04.801Z","text":"AI把金额搞反了，2.4亿与11.4亿调换之后，才是正确的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q639df0ac08cbf0db8f27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q465553fd3eea424e3477","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":516,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-29T01:30:51.467Z","text":"https://x.com/ningli21/status/2068814912286322909?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q465553fd3eea424e3477","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q3578fcb70c88b93bf09f","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":517,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T01:36:31.489Z","text":"二巡在量刑前 和量刑后 就是两种不同的生物","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3578fcb70c88b93bf09f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qff411e48e4ed80cbf589","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":518,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-29T01:41:19.209Z","text":"还没有，这个是准备明天托雷斯落锤后马上上传的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab9eecea5f7e89be4307","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff411e48e4ed80cbf589","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab9eecea5f7e89be4307","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q3ee229cfcb691e4957ee","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":519,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-29T01:41:38.191Z","text":"是前两天","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3793380231f077f40e7b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ee229cfcb691e4957ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3793380231f077f40e7b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q39bbebf7f857de2c4f98","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":520,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2026-06-29T01:42:25.051Z","text":"政府才是真正的洗钱者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6dfc24e762c8140068e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39bbebf7f857de2c4f98","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dfc24e762c8140068e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qfb120237c4fee8bfd05f","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":521,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-29T01:49:40.280Z","text":"明天 是11点吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb120237c4fee8bfd05f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qea6fc2edfee5251bedc7","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":522,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T01:54:58.331Z","text":"东部11点","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfb120237c4fee8bfd05f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea6fc2edfee5251bedc7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb120237c4fee8bfd05f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qe19c68a75b99dbe07ca2","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":523,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T01:55:59.849Z","text":"https://x.com/panshirock77/status/2071407160798347349?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe19c68a75b99dbe07ca2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q6cb9475e070ad6d284fc","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":524,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T01:56:04.996Z","text":"还要继续骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cb9475e070ad6d284fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q05dca5180d1277f3a0cb","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":525,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:06:06.803Z","text":"不让他们写强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2372673ba200598e6586","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05dca5180d1277f3a0cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q1b6e785fd3ad57ad6ad3","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":526,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:06:18.765Z","text":"他们发现量刑后很关键","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b6e785fd3ad57ad6ad3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qc5d6ef49ff2355317845","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":527,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:09:08.410Z","text":"一切表演都是为了法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a4de60fcd591689ed9b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5d6ef49ff2355317845","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qde99e07c639c9032f1ea","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":528,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:09:13.375Z","text":"确切的说 第二巡回法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde99e07c639c9032f1ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q34139366d78b5a7fda07","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":529,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T02:21:21.468Z","text":"上诉是不能提供新证据的吧，所以现在有证据的人可以独立提交给南区","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a4de60fcd591689ed9b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34139366d78b5a7fda07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q7ddbf92d1ef6e1e8097b","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":530,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T02:23:30.112Z","text":"现在郭还没判，刑期也没定啊。这么多人铺垫有什么用，到时候全部打脸。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ddbf92d1ef6e1e8097b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qc8ba70c3498073ac4ef9","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":531,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:28:21.981Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8ba70c3498073ac4ef9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q62942ba88d3bbe3ebdf7","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":532,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T02:35:03.775Z","text":"AI把金额搞反了，2.4亿与11.4亿调换之后，才是正确的\n\n这个什么意思？\n\n”第一层：数字本身揭示的法律矛盾金钱判决总额：          13.8亿美元初步没收清单资产：       约6.4亿美元其中SEC扣押GTV资产：     约4亿美元扣除SEC部分后可执行资产： 约11.4亿美元无法解释的缺口：         约2.4亿美元政府的解释：            \"穷尽追缴后未能追回\"这个数字缺口在法律上产生了一个根本性矛盾。” 对不对？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q639df0ac08cbf0db8f27","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62942ba88d3bbe3ebdf7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q639df0ac08cbf0db8f27","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q1382d0cea1e4507292d6","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":533,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:39:42.923Z","text":"就是政府没有去追缴也没有作出任何说明的有2.4亿。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q62942ba88d3bbe3ebdf7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1382d0cea1e4507292d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62942ba88d3bbe3ebdf7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qbdf5a71adcfb92bb0bd8","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":534,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:42:12.551Z","text":"初步没收令的没收清单里，银行账户款项只有6个多亿，gtv投资款4个多亿，由sec处理。剩下的就是没对上账的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf5a71adcfb92bb0bd8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qe3b58f3c1be7f33c3908","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":535,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T02:42:46.448Z","text":"Sara Wei那里，应该还有不少","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbdf5a71adcfb92bb0bd8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3b58f3c1be7f33c3908","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf5a71adcfb92bb0bd8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q01579de8bfacee56d5a4","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":536,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:43:53.583Z","text":"gtv虽然已经无罪了，政府还要把它纳入到G enterprise 里，也可以去主张，魏负责的vog款项，是否退回给了sec，特别是那些没有拿到sec退款的人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01579de8bfacee56d5a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qe8888571398aa627862a","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":537,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T02:44:35.445Z","text":"这就是郭说的，既然没收包括GTV，那么就要把Sara那儿的拿回来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q01579de8bfacee56d5a4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8888571398aa627862a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01579de8bfacee56d5a4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qe0e572dd1388ce1a446b","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":538,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T02:44:51.857Z","text":"指不定，检方会把Sara 长岛，都卖掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0e572dd1388ce1a446b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qa1b9feab86b9df5b0dbf","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":539,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:47:14.070Z","text":"然后南区检察官办公室完全不回应。然后就是既要纳入金钱对你的金钱判决，还要让魏丽红保留这些钱。你的对手共产党就是这么安排的，我们就是听命于共产党，怎么着！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe8888571398aa627862a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1b9feab86b9df5b0dbf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8888571398aa627862a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qf96187b6879a77979246","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":540,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:47:57.845Z","text":"你看托雷斯那股劲，南区检察官办公室会卖？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0e572dd1388ce1a446b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf96187b6879a77979246","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0e572dd1388ce1a446b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q627b5bdb7ad53580cac7","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":541,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:51:11.771Z","text":"共产党在这个案件上，算是all in了，至少会走到二巡全体法官那一步。郭说的吴征手上有两百多个法官的小视频。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q627b5bdb7ad53580cac7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qbe4f14da72ab1a558e2e","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":542,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T02:52:19.793Z","text":"我还是不明白这个帐：\n\n-政府扣押/说郭犯罪所得13.8\n-查封了G系列帐号里的6.4亿\n-SEC/扣押着GTV 共4亿\n\n减去政府所说的2.4亿不知去向\n\n综上所述 剩下了 1 亿 \n\n————————//————//","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe4f14da72ab1a558e2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q6d8ad421d8ff2a19a90d","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":543,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T02:52:49.162Z","text":"对不对？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d8ad421d8ff2a19a90d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q636ed8738226d425b9a2","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":544,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:53:26.390Z","text":"这个案件，只要你投资并参与到法庭上。哪怕就是去主张就是被郭给骗了（只要你真心认为自己是被骗了），你都是胜利者。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q636ed8738226d425b9a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qb3c172876336730b5842","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":545,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T02:53:33.664Z","text":"接下来在二巡就要打他们的帐了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3c172876336730b5842","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q0d7aaebc721597e3c5d9","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":546,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T02:55:15.641Z","text":"怎么说？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q636ed8738226d425b9a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d7aaebc721597e3c5d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q636ed8738226d425b9a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q7262d17df1ccfcada0d0","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":547,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:55:22.512Z","text":"二巡根本都不用看帐","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb3c172876336730b5842","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7262d17df1ccfcada0d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3c172876336730b5842","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q40a4eea3e082e7187b93","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":548,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:55:34.500Z","text":"直接把量刑重做","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40a4eea3e082e7187b93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q8541ffe2366ce67598e9","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":549,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:55:38.372Z","text":"因为你的根基不合法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8541ffe2366ce67598e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qf37fbc64d439cbbbeeca","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":550,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T02:56:13.896Z","text":"二巡可能把整个案件dismiss 掉。最终是要谈钱的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7262d17df1ccfcada0d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf37fbc64d439cbbbeeca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7262d17df1ccfcada0d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q5f6d5ad6aa9eb19024ec","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":551,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:56:45.978Z","text":"我觉得可能是先把量刑打回重做 重做几次 把法官换了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf37fbc64d439cbbbeeca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f6d5ad6aa9eb19024ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf37fbc64d439cbbbeeca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qb8f69d1a5451019e57ff","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":552,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:56:54.880Z","text":"新法官上来审查一切","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8f69d1a5451019e57ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q2111d6aaa672a3bbee98","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":553,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T02:57:17.630Z","text":"受害人是谁？ 检方代表谁？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2111d6aaa672a3bbee98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q139cf46ba1d82cee9b36","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":554,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T02:58:01.985Z","text":"如果从审， 这几个检察官会竭尽全力干吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q139cf46ba1d82cee9b36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q702e897b657fc8cf6e43","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":555,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:58:14.997Z","text":"到时候我们要求把检察官开除","edited":false,"reply_to":"q139cf46ba1d82cee9b36","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q702e897b657fc8cf6e43","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q139cf46ba1d82cee9b36","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q177104edc11e440ae79c","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":556,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:59:52.260Z","text":"我只是大概算的。目前为止，没有对上账且政府没有任何说明的部分是13.8亿减去没收清单的银行账户里的6个多亿，再减去sec那里的4个多亿后，剩下的部分。您可能是没有搞清楚金钱判决与实际没收的区别。金钱判决，是政府主张被告们诈骗了13.8亿，这是被告们应该负责的金钱责任，穷尽追缴后追不回的部分，可以让被告们赔偿。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbe4f14da72ab1a558e2e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe4f14da72ab1a558e2e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q7ffc2f345d0a34d13165","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":557,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T03:00:30.063Z","text":"因为这是史诗级案件，参与即胜利。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d7aaebc721597e3c5d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ffc2f345d0a34d13165","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d7aaebc721597e3c5d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qf6b41bd233fc1dbc5a79","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":558,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T03:03:03.534Z","text":"如果被告要负责13.8 -6-4 = 3.8 被告要拿出来，对不对？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q177104edc11e440ae79c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6b41bd233fc1dbc5a79","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qe57968c0dcf857794173","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":559,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T03:04:00.499Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf6b41bd233fc1dbc5a79","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe57968c0dcf857794173","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6b41bd233fc1dbc5a79","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q99822faedbd2954a3a01","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":560,"speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-06-29T03:04:04.005Z","text":"螺丝哥 你真的👍","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99822faedbd2954a3a01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q41891464bbb3e373198c","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":561,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-29T03:05:07.907Z","text":"https://x.com/dxbybzb1722/status/2071428305987711428?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41891464bbb3e373198c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qca56cce387b4bc2497cf","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":562,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T03:10:42.320Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 意思就是","edited":true,"reply_to":"q177104edc11e440ae79c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca56cce387b4bc2497cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"q00b52190a7e1b0578e6c","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":563,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T03:10:50.670Z","text":"检方这块儿出了差错\n13.8是整个G系列的涉案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00b52190a7e1b0578e6c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127"},{"id":"qf96db153e3d844306e96","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":564,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T03:11:47.826Z","text":"对于郭量刑，金钱判决，算到的总额，和13.8对不上 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