{"id":"batch-000131","number":131,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-07-03T02:30:16.479Z","date_end":"2026-07-05T03:40:17.278Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 131 (Jul 3, 2026 – Jul 5, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From July 3 to July 5, 2026, discussion centered on the Guo case record and procedure. Participants pressed to verify history against social posts, then contested whether July 2 filings, vacate timing, and judgment finality allowed meaningful second-circuit action. They disputed sentence and forfeiture scope, citing 18 U.S.C. §1349 and 18 U.S.C. §1956(h), with references to a 45-year framing and broader victim assumptions. ECF Filing Receipt and Docket timestamps were framed as crucial. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Verify first before concluding: historical records, screenshots, and firsthand claims were repeatedly challenged for alignment","description":"Participants repeatedly argued that historical records should be reconciled first and challenged screenshots and eyewitness-style claims before accepting conclusions; they disputed evidentiary reliability rather than definitive outcomes. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q374cbf86bc2fc39375f0","q114bf2f3b97f5a6de006","q058ed3aa25f84405e01b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q374cbf86bc2fc39375f0","summary_en":"One participant claimed they wanted to check whether current assertions could match historical records first. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q114bf2f3b97f5a6de006","summary_en":"The same participant claimed they had already dug up some information earlier in the thread. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q058ed3aa25f84405e01b","summary_en":"A participant argued that a large batch of collected materials had diminished credibility once scrutinized. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Social-media post and avatar authenticity dispute: online images and fabricated-label claims made truth boundaries uncertain","description":"Participants argued that the social post was fake, that the avatar appeared to be web-sourced, and that the content was fabricated, so credibility remained contested. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q31499ffd4a1c62d3fbd9","q0c12d35d642d55c1f80c","qd62e4f360080f4ba2a79"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q31499ffd4a1c62d3fbd9","summary_en":"A participant claimed the referenced social post was fake. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0c12d35d642d55c1f80c","summary_en":"A participant claimed the posted avatar was a stock or internet image rather than original. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd62e4f360080f4ba2a79","summary_en":"A participant claimed the content itself was fabricated. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Court procedure became central: whether pre-second-appeal filing and dockets around July 2 were complete","description":"Participants argued over whether earlier sentencing confirmation was official or only oral, while disputing whether second-circuit proceedings now had full procedural authority over the case posture. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qe8689bd51d228e995f04","q616848dbdfd8b770023d","qb8d875b4c18080af731b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qe8689bd51d228e995f04","summary_en":"A participant claimed earlier sentencing had been officially certified. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q616848dbdfd8b770023d","summary_en":"Another participant claimed that what was previously in place was only oral. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qb8d875b4c18080af731b","summary_en":"A participant claimed the second circuit now had formal full management. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Appeal path and finality dispute: whether relief remains after final judgment and when second-circuit action is viable","description":"Participants disputed whether a final judgment forecloses later relief, whether a stay is central, and whether missing vacate opportunities would make the case effectively unreopenable. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q37193185242614ff4181","qfed883320e66af3916b4","q19812abd2a7cb0670e64"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q37193185242614ff4181","summary_en":"A participant claimed that if second-circuit review cannot be passed, the case is effectively locked. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfed883320e66af3916b4","summary_en":"A participant claimed the second-circuit judges would be decisive in practice. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q19812abd2a7cb0670e64","summary_en":"A participant questioned whether sentence vacatur is unavailable once formal judgment is issued. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Sentencing and forfeiture metrics disagreed: references to 30/35/45 years and different asset-boundary readings","description":"Participants disputed sentence-figuring benchmarks and forfeiture sequencing, with one framing around a 45-year line and another emphasizing that forfeiture should trigger only after sentencing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qdb378d023b146762d507","q2c19b58615ea440750ce","q06f731c605f1427a39d3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qdb378d023b146762d507","summary_en":"A participant claimed sentencing looked better than expected, while the expectation had been 45 years. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2c19b58615ea440750ce","summary_en":"A participant claimed the 45-year outcome was tied to an extra-kicker expectation that was not granted. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q06f731c605f1427a39d3","summary_en":"A participant claimed forfeiture in the case remained suspended before Guo’s sentencing and became operative only afterward. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim identification and fund ownership remained contested: who is a victim, who can use CVRA, and loss scope","description":"Participants disputed whether every affected customer was a victim, whether CVRA participation should be broader, and how alleged fund control should shape the scope of damage and standing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf8ea5f6aa1e2f4119e3e","qa536ac87f1e30013ca0d","qd5af56e697a10ede8e8b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf8ea5f6aa1e2f4119e3e","summary_en":"A participant claimed the prosecution advanced four CVRA-related filings in the second circuit but did not allow victims to speak through CVRA. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa536ac87f1e30013ca0d","summary_en":"A participant claimed that if the prosecution treats everyone as a victim, all should be allowed CVRA participation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd5af56e697a10ede8e8b","summary_en":"A participant claimed that even in a company-level fraud, not every customer is necessarily a victim. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Wang YP plea scope dispute: whether admission was only GTV-related or implied wider conspiracy and enterprise exposure","description":"Participants argued over whether Wang YP pleaded only limited GTV conduct or a broader conspiracy, including whether forfeiture consent, enterprise linkage, and statute framing supported expanded responsibility. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q35ccd802007a28b5565c","q55e10b90662fe5107bcb","q124c182ada07b0a8aeb1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q35ccd802007a28b5565c","summary_en":"A participant claimed that saying Wang YP pleaded only GTV was misleading and stated he pleaded conspiracy to commit wire fraud under 18 U.S.C. §1349 and money laundering under 18 U.S.C. §1956(h). Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q55e10b90662fe5107bcb","summary_en":"A participant claimed the motion said he pleaded only two crimes tied to GTV, while his signed forfeiture consent covered the broader G-series set. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q124c182ada07b0a8aeb1","summary_en":"A participant claimed a 484 filing addressed government victim statements and argued that wrongdoing by followers should be pursued against them, that the two-count plea plus alleged no-rico framing limited liability for the enterprise, and that coercive circumstances were emphasized. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Third-party and bystander standing: no-reversal claims versus argument that evidence can still be submitted","description":"Participants contested whether third parties could overturn the Guo case, with some claiming reversal is impossible and others insisting procedural defects allow third-party evidentiary challenges. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qb7724e549a2ac602a6ee","q92a417f90412ebf23194","qa7d0b12758fe7a45bb5a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qb7724e549a2ac602a6ee","summary_en":"A participant claimed the Guo case cannot be overturned by third parties. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q92a417f90412ebf23194","summary_en":"Another participant claimed the case nature makes third-party reversal impossible. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa7d0b12758fe7a45bb5a","summary_en":"Another participant claimed third parties can still provide evidence. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Operational shift to action: preserve records, pursue consolidated strategy, and manage objection deadlines","description":"Participants moved from debate to logistics, arguing for preserving ECF Filing Receipt and Docket evidence, preserving motion trails, and coordinating filing timelines as practical strategy. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q1e339d7f549de54b3d18","q3a275be1218696994bb4","q1d6619c3dc0ec7884ae5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1e339d7f549de54b3d18","summary_en":"A participant claimed six vacate motions should be treated as critical tactical markers, and urged preserving ECF Filing Receipt and Docket screenshots because timeline stamps could support a second-circuit challenge to rushed lower-court treatment. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3a275be1218696994bb4","summary_en":"A participant argued that failure to secure a stay or vacate posture in the second circuit would forfeit strategic leverage. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1d6619c3dc0ec7884ae5","summary_en":"A participant claimed there was at least a month remaining, so participants should submit any required records promptly. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Community narrative became polarized: labeling, coordinated attacks, and conspiracy framing entered legal discussion","description":"Participants contested the tone shift as political labeling and identity framing entered legal debate, with some accusing internal groups of over-politicization while others highlighted low material compliance in a separate context. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qfad2021bcff8289c7229","q7ab545ea36672f46e462","q72940aaaa72442d0e329"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qfad2021bcff8289c7229","summary_en":"A participant claimed frustration with coordinated criticism and called out conduct around the discussion with mocking language tied to a linked social post. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7ab545ea36672f46e462","summary_en":"A participant claimed that 99.99% of the South District had not uploaded required material. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q72940aaaa72442d0e329","summary_en":"A participant claimed that pursuing a reversal had become futile and advised giving up on that path. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论一开始就在“先核验再下结论”上反复拉齐：历史聊天记录、截图来源和社媒帖是否原始常被要求核实。随后核心转向法院程序，成员围绕7月2日前后关键文件、vacate动议未处理、裁定是否有完整记录、上诉时效与二巡路径争执不休。多数观点把后续策略放在补充材料、保留档案、并案推进，但对翻案条件是否成立仍无共识。量刑与没收金额口径、王雁平认罪范围、受害规模与控制权归属也高度分歧。更进一步，一部分讨论被政治化叙事、内外部操控和身份化站队冲淡：对程序信任、证据可信度与群体角色认知出现长期分化。","guide":[{"title":"先核验再谈：历史记录、截图与“亲历者”表述被反复质疑需先对齐","message_ids":["q374cbf86bc2fc39375f0","q114bf2f3b97f5a6de006","q058ed3aa25f84405e01b"]},{"title":"社媒帖与头像内容真伪争议：网图/杜撰标签频繁，真实性边界未定","message_ids":["q31499ffd4a1c62d3fbd9","q0c12d35d642d55c1f80c","qd62e4f360080f4ba2a79"]},{"title":"法院程序成主线：判决前后vacate与file 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她的角色绝对可疑，她对郭案的印象是毁灭性的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb7bae79848aab6b9b2e6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e4c2f35a904f7c7b565","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7bae79848aab6b9b2e6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q1389251bd8d28e11fbe0","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":406,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:28:13.760Z","text":"造谣无罪 造谣光荣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf0123c14789cee39dc0f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1389251bd8d28e11fbe0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q86c39ea50a0206325d64","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":407,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-03T21:32:06.001Z","text":"王雁平全家都是共產黨員，體制內的人。她自己1999年已經入黨。她強調自己是：堅定的共產黨員！\n\n這些都是她自己親口說的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e4c2f35a904f7c7b565","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86c39ea50a0206325d64","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e4c2f35a904f7c7b565","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qdfc93e25697efbbad95c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":408,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T21:32:22.528Z","text":"根本不用疑了，她承认郭同意和她实施诈骗，这可能吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e4c2f35a904f7c7b565","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfc93e25697efbbad95c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e4c2f35a904f7c7b565","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qed399f0241f9661cfbd4","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":409,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-07-03T21:35:08.104Z","text":"你覺得正常人拿什麼標準衡量","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdcc43506de8c514848bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed399f0241f9661cfbd4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcc43506de8c514848bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qc5535c6c6c96d27cd5d1","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":410,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T21:35:11.287Z","text":"这个[屏蔽词]量刑那天还打电话到伪联盟，也不知道真的假的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5535c6c6c96d27cd5d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qac457603929cf0c35365","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":411,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-03T21:35:53.511Z","text":"正常人的标准是，希望案子能赢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed399f0241f9661cfbd4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac457603929cf0c35365","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed399f0241f9661cfbd4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q08faba42e27f0f4218be","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":412,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-03T21:36:18.692Z","text":"用尽一切机会打赢官司，这是正常人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08faba42e27f0f4218be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q275dcc20f52bd1bc9b3e","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":413,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-03T21:36:45.824Z","text":"你觉得他的行为像正常人吗，他说的那些话，像是想赢吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q275dcc20f52bd1bc9b3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q929c5d06a3023df0f18f","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":414,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:37:12.749Z","text":"哦 现在变成： 老郭不想赢 别给老郭添乱 翻案就是给他添乱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q275dcc20f52bd1bc9b3e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q929c5d06a3023df0f18f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q275dcc20f52bd1bc9b3e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q82c2abd38acc62940e56","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":415,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:37:25.513Z","text":"［用户 joh***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q929c5d06a3023df0f18f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82c2abd38acc62940e56","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q929c5d06a3023df0f18f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qa90adc788c4c6bad6a87","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":416,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-07-03T21:38:09.323Z","text":"你搞虛擬貨幣一切目的就是贏每一次波動都要贏，贏也要分長期和短期吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa90adc788c4c6bad6a87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q7bdc1b6503f9f41ec09e","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":417,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-03T21:38:11.231Z","text":"但是他如果不想赢，为什么要推迟量刑这么多次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bdc1b6503f9f41ec09e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qed107957da458ab8a93e","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":418,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-03T21:38:16.177Z","text":"还换律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed107957da458ab8a93e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qed4564f154368813fd1f","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":419,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-07-03T21:39:12.644Z","text":"以義為利還是以利為利","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed4564f154368813fd1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q61e8993162cb9d8fa1dc","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":420,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T21:41:18.906Z","text":"并不是我们相像的巡回法院第二天就出手，       从地方裁决到巡回法院出手快3个月🥺                                                                                                       时间节点：\n\n地方法院裁决： 2013年8月12日，地方法院作出裁决，认定纽约市的警务做法违宪，并下达了补救措施命令。\n\n申请中止： 2013年8月27日，纽约市向地方法院申请中止执行该补救措施，但被地方法院法官于9月17日驳回。\n\n巡回法院干预（抢跑/中止）： 2013年9月23日，纽约市直接向第二巡回上诉法院申请中止。2013年10月31日，第二巡回法院发布命令，授予了中止请求，并罕见地撤换了地方法院法官。\n\n总结： 从地方法院拒绝中止请求（9月17日）到巡回法院发布强制中止命令（10月31日），大约经过了 6周（约44天） 的时间。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61e8993162cb9d8fa1dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qf0571cbd1cafb40117a6","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":421,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-03T21:42:56.542Z","text":"https://x.com/hei68077/status/2072819882908070369?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0571cbd1cafb40117a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q83857ca9e989bd9424ae","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":422,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:43:01.006Z","text":"这是哪个案子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61e8993162cb9d8fa1dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83857ca9e989bd9424ae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61e8993162cb9d8fa1dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q5598452df54e60374c71","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":423,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-03T21:43:39.939Z","text":"請問能在司法部把老郭說的文件找出來嗎？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5598452df54e60374c71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qbdf7db81a0b1cc91ccb1","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":424,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-03T21:43:47.967Z","text":"https://x.com/hei68077/status/2072819882908070369?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf7db81a0b1cc91ccb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q9cac1bb687c8b43ea06c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":425,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T21:44:14.878Z","text":"从驳回中止到二巡出手44天，一个半月","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61e8993162cb9d8fa1dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cac1bb687c8b43ea06c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61e8993162cb9d8fa1dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q88c0135c967e4b8e5475","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":426,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T21:45:17.308Z","text":"这是ligon ,也是二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":"q83857ca9e989bd9424ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88c0135c967e4b8e5475","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83857ca9e989bd9424ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qa5cb43070727c940ccbe","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":427,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:46:55.223Z","text":"ok","edited":false,"reply_to":"q88c0135c967e4b8e5475","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5cb43070727c940ccbe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88c0135c967e4b8e5475","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q981420dc5ea5c62ba324","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":428,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:47:03.858Z","text":"那咱们这个可能更久","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q981420dc5ea5c62ba324","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q6eb470f1b2ab95a576de","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":429,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T21:47:18.214Z","text":"从纽约提交申请到二巡裁决一个月零7天","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61e8993162cb9d8fa1dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eb470f1b2ab95a576de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61e8993162cb9d8fa1dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q0d9cd4c35eb847836e92","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":430,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:48:07.414Z","text":"急的是他们 咱们吃瓜看景","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6eb470f1b2ab95a576de","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d9cd4c35eb847836e92","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eb470f1b2ab95a576de","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q1e3796f89f2df49ccedd","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":431,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T21:48:11.359Z","text":"是啊，我们这个可比他们那个复杂多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e3796f89f2df49ccedd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qb32c0a59229c27752a2b","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":432,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:48:23.783Z","text":"他们比我们急","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb32c0a59229c27752a2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qb047a551b563bff4a4b9","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":433,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:48:52.307Z","text":"咱们现在是最舒服的战略位置","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb047a551b563bff4a4b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q1d6619c3dc0ec7884ae5","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":434,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T21:50:03.230Z","text":"还有起码一个月，各位有什么要上要记录的赶紧提交","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d6619c3dc0ec7884ae5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q5f337ce6dd5cd363f07c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":435,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T21:50:55.825Z","text":"我今天又把反对没收提交了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f337ce6dd5cd363f07c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q077a2f090a65b5a93761","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":436,"speaker":"bla***","date":"2026-07-03T21:51:02.822Z","text":"https://youtu.be/HMLRhCmf4b8","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q077a2f090a65b5a93761","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qfda413761a47a8df60c2","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":437,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:51:04.086Z","text":"什么叫又？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f337ce6dd5cd363f07c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfda413761a47a8df60c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f337ce6dd5cd363f07c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":438,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-03T21:51:33.725Z","text":"那两百多853n 自诉人注意了，鉴于南区已经发布签署最后没收令，所有人都可以上二巡要求appeal - 法律依据是👇\n\n\na Final Order of Forfeiture that sweeps your funds into the pool without granting you an evidentiary Fatico hearing or evaluating your § 853(n) rights, that Final Order is a fully appealable final judgment under Fed. R. Crim. P. 32.2(c)(3). You will then have the right to file a direct, formal appeal to the Second Circuit to vacate the forfeiture order entirely based on the \"structural and constitutional taints\" you have already preserved in the record.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qfd4eda9ec8bcbaef375a","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":439,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T21:51:40.867Z","text":"又就是又一个motion的意思😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd4eda9ec8bcbaef375a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q3937c3d92f15af457ab2","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":440,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:52:02.119Z","text":"wait appeal？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3937c3d92f15af457ab2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qf5cf3ad93115fa092e89","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":441,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:52:24.171Z","text":"第三方只能强制令吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5cf3ad93115fa092e89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qea9fc999efac92fb5920","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":442,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-03T21:53:28.577Z","text":"Direct Appeal","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3937c3d92f15af457ab2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea9fc999efac92fb5920","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3937c3d92f15af457ab2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q32980b871fb6e8e15ccd","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":443,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:53:59.521Z","text":"好像真是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32980b871fb6e8e15ccd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q5ca796b11040ebd3e903","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":444,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:54:22.002Z","text":"853n被拒绝可以上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ca796b11040ebd3e903","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qc4fa9c64e06ad0831e2c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":445,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:56:06.221Z","text":"853上诉 程序问题打不了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4fa9c64e06ad0831e2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q1db60ba61bb9bf2c89c1","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":446,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:56:28.005Z","text":"这个真的和himam说的一样 只能谈钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1db60ba61bb9bf2c89c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q1366ad69521a338aed79","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":447,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:56:35.178Z","text":"但是853强制令 可以打程序问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1366ad69521a338aed79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q5ff38eed35fbf7b883ec","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":448,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:56:56.350Z","text":"强制令比上诉好用太多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ff38eed35fbf7b883ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q34ec2931163e2d33b04b","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":449,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-03T21:58:33.568Z","text":"您的意思是 这两百多人， 没被南区入卷的， 可以直接在二巡做强制令，暂时不需要打财产的上诉？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5ff38eed35fbf7b883ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34ec2931163e2d33b04b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ff38eed35fbf7b883ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q55365881f6b56f15cdbb","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":450,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T21:58:52.089Z","text":"不上传 不裁决 先强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55365881f6b56f15cdbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q74d6a4f1fdb9d7cdbd99","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":451,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:00:00.564Z","text":"地院裁决了你的853","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74d6a4f1fdb9d7cdbd99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qd3c86211decf8a613475","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":452,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:00:04.844Z","text":"你不满 可以上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3c86211decf8a613475","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q94dac6c5814f7d1b359a","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":453,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:00:38.366Z","text":"Mandamus 往往更适合攻击法院拒绝履职、整体程序失灵等问题；\n    •    §853(n) 直接上诉 更适合攻击最终没收裁定以及影响该裁定的程序错误。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94dac6c5814f7d1b359a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qc62b7e07df67d5fe68de","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":454,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-03T22:01:58.638Z","text":"给这类申请人的现实建议\n1.  最好不要单独作战，而是尽量和已经组织起来的动议（Tony那一组或Mia/Sarah那一组）形成呼应或并案。\n2.  重点打程序违法 + 记录保存，而不是过度指控“勾结”和“歧视”（虽然这些问题可能存在，但证据要求很高）。\n3.  做好长期战的准备——这类案件在二巡走完正常流程，很可能需要6-12个月甚至更久。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc62b7e07df67d5fe68de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qe50fbad71f59c256a83e","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":455,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-03T22:02:07.465Z","text":"也就是说 两个都可以， 侧重点不同","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe50fbad71f59c256a83e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q3230759fb0aaf9c86267","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":456,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:02:24.350Z","text":"不是 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也是强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81e0f5949abad6d9403f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q5fa42752e869d321ca9b","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":459,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:02:50.539Z","text":"上传 裁决后 你不满 上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fa42752e869d321ca9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q7ab545ea36672f46e462","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":460,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-03T22:03:06.362Z","text":"99.99% 的南区都没上传","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3230759fb0aaf9c86267","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ab545ea36672f46e462","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3230759fb0aaf9c86267","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q2951ae15d6fa9e2b3a6c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":461,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:03:20.769Z","text":"托雷斯不是说之后会上传吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ab545ea36672f46e462","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2951ae15d6fa9e2b3a6c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ab545ea36672f46e462","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qaadda7a2f3cc68cb72ad","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":462,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:03:28.694Z","text":"她如果之后上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaadda7a2f3cc68cb72ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qc4386e7fc876ffb09fcb","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":463,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-03T22:04:08.229Z","text":"最后财产没收令都下来了，上传了又怎么样？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4386e7fc876ffb09fcb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q8f83ab430e8dcd8548cb","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":464,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:04:41.799Z","text":"先没收 再给钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4386e7fc876ffb09fcb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f83ab430e8dcd8548cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4386e7fc876ffb09fcb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q1d97f77498a97d667987","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":465,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:05:11.229Z","text":"853也是要先没收 再给你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d97f77498a97d667987","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qc6f5653f7a48c55d21de","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":466,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:05:17.758Z","text":"当然这里面法律其实很复杂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6f5653f7a48c55d21de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q345904b7c37987a724f0","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":467,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:05:20.410Z","text":"我都搞不清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q345904b7c37987a724f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qadd31b479d7ba65c4aba","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":468,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-03T22:06:42.123Z","text":"现在去二巡还是要交六百美元对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadd31b479d7ba65c4aba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qdcc571ed4002b9f56dbd","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":469,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:06:53.271Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcc571ed4002b9f56dbd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q3b4e3725cb75c8c9e893","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":470,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:11:17.999Z","text":"https://gettr.com/post/p41j8vv28f5","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b4e3725cb75c8c9e893","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q2b6c53a7913c818f9867","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":471,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:11:21.679Z","text":"又在搞什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b6c53a7913c818f9867","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qe2105d355ae1e6a006b5","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":472,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-03T22:23:31.864Z","text":"这个举动意欲挑起事端，引导一大波没有独立思考能力的战友们去攻击此人及此人背后的群体对立，搞臭新中国联邦和郭先生，毁掉新中国联邦众多战友们在西方人心中的信誉。\n作为灭爆组的他们在6月29日完成了对郭先生的量刑阶段性的任务后，现已进入收尾阶段，遂实施沉船计划（中国人的诺亚方舟：新中国联邦），然后，他们隐退。\n之前他们是奔着鸠占鹊巢劫持这艘船而来，随着事态发展，眼见郭先生众多的铁杆真战友一如既往，对郭先生坚定地不离不弃，他们因此改变了原计划，选择沉船。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b6c53a7913c818f9867","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2105d355ae1e6a006b5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b6c53a7913c818f9867","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q0233c903f2248d6ddcc2","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":473,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-03T22:25:42.689Z","text":"https://x.com/kk26400689/status/2073147977682547096?s=12","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0233c903f2248d6ddcc2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q39bb4aa24cda4bd5a2b7","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":474,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T22:32:21.168Z","text":"最终没收令还没发布吧？才发布的是补充初步没收令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39bb4aa24cda4bd5a2b7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q7f3a0ab56218562bd984","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":475,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T22:37:44.001Z","text":"还是别并了，让我们把二巡的法官都占满😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q152abed9cbabd59848e5","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f3a0ab56218562bd984","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qa88509ffa85775ab385e","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":476,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-03T22:38:16.095Z","text":"南区这个是补充初步没收令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa88509ffa857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如今，郭先生于缧绁之中口吐鲜血，命悬一线。此本可作为保外就医之转机，凡我真战友，无不五内俱焚、奔走相告。然尔等群丑，却铺天盖地造谣惑众，诡称“不过偏头小疾”、“因喝过期牛奶而起，并无大碍”。粉饰太平至此，落井下石至此，过河拆桥，莫此为甚！天下战友皆在痛哭，尔等恶贼却在暗笑！尔等之所以未敢公然反叛联盟，犹高呼“团结一致支持联盟”者，非真忠大业也，实欲鸠占鹊巢，借尸还魂！ 尔等欲穿着战友的衣服，说着战友的话语，窃取千万战友之血汗信任，行伤害郭先生、出卖联邦之勾当！纽约南区法院重判在即，伪民运流氓额手称快，“灭爆小组”弹冠相庆。尔等内应外合，里通外国，其罪当诛，其心当戮！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q388356adbb5afdd2120f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q0335b2334dc98af07f1d","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":479,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-03T23:01:14.114Z","text":"还没有发布最终没收令，860只是对被告的判决。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0335b2334dc98af07f1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q5abce9725ea983ac9bbc","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":480,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-03T23:11:19.325Z","text":"托雷斯的这个不上传cvra文件就量刑的做法，完全不能用为了完成组织交待的任务来解释。它完全可以上传后，在量刑时提一句：法庭已经审阅所有cvra文件，对其没有任何观点。就把程序走完了。但它就是不这么做，我能想到的就是，托雷斯的心智和性格，完全不适合当法官，报复心，嫉妒心很强且心胸极其狭隘，它就是跟自诉人给杠上了，我就算赌上我的法官信誉，我也不上传你们的文件。它当然知道，不可能不给上传强行结束地院程序这个事情就结束了，它一直杠下去的结果是它被换掉，然后自诉人的文件还是会被上传，但它的性格就是如此任性，不在乎走到那一步。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5abce9725ea983ac9bbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q3d6a6474d7d0771fb3da","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":481,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-07-03T23:11:26.126Z","text":"郭文贵量刑，没有当庭支持者陈述！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d6a6474d7d0771fb3da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qa6f09157b5963026627a","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":482,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-03T23:25:35.563Z","text":"4. 实务层面的关键考量与行动指南\n​如果目前案件在地区法院已经进入或完成了量刑阶段，而大量涉案投资人/潜在被害人认为其 CVRA 权利（如合理通知权、发声权、全面的退赔/Restitution 权利）未受到保障：  \n​火速计算 14 天窗口： 必须立即检查地区法院无视、拒绝第三方文件或正式签署最终判决（Judgment）的具体日期。从该日期起算的 14 天内，必须确保巡回法院收到 Petition for a Writ of Mandamus。  \n​强制令的诉求写法： 在向巡回法院提交的 Petition 中，应明确指出：第三方在量刑前已尝试主张权利但被剥夺（满足条件 A）；请求巡回法院行使强制权，宣布地区法院在未履行 CVRA 被害人保护程序前匆忙量刑属于违法，并责令其撤销/重新打开量刑程序（Vacate/Re-open the sentence）。  \n​极速审理机制： 法律赋予了这类申请极高的优先级。根据规定，一旦你向巡回法院成功提交了 Mandamus 申请，巡回法院必须在 72 小时内极其迅速地作出裁决。  \n理论上，本案可以做到，在72小时之内，二巡就撤销南区的量刑。\n不管怎样，只要量刑撤销，绝大部份韭菜（如果有，我认为没有那么多韭菜，都他妈是网格员）都会醒过来。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6f09157b5963026627a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q6ea60dddfa22a0b3541b","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":483,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-03T23:44:42.107Z","text":"支持者（supporters）可以在量刑听证会上发言，但必须事先获得法官的许可。通常情况下，支持者会提交品格证明信（character/reference letters），而不是亲自口头发言。如果支持者获准发言，他们通常会向法官说明被告曾经做过的积极和正面的事情。\n支持者参与量刑程序的方式如下：\n1. 发言权\n申请许可： 辩护律师通常需要向法官申请，允许朋友、家属或同事代表被告发言。\n遵守法庭规则： 由法官决定哪些人可以发言，以及每个人可以发言多长时间。\n2. 支持者可以说什么\n品格特征： 支持者可以介绍被告的良好品格。例如，他们可以说明被告是一位有爱心的父母、勤奋工作的员工，或者是一位乐于助人的邻居。\n解释犯罪行为与平时表现的差异： 支持者可以向法官说明，本次犯罪行为并不代表被告平时的为人或一贯行为模式。\n展现未来改过自新的可能性： 支持者通常会请求法官从宽处理（给予宽恕或从轻量刑），并说明被告已经准备好改正错误、重新开始。\n3. 支持者不能说什么\n争辩被告无罪： 量刑听证并不是重新审理有罪与否的阶段。支持者不能主张被告没有犯罪，而必须接受被告已经被认定有罪这一事实。\n对法庭不敬： 支持者必须始终保持礼貌，并对法官及法庭程序保持尊重。\n简而言之，支持者在量刑阶段的作用主要是向法官提供关于被告品格、背景以及改过自新可能性的参考信息，而不是重新争论案件事实或有罪与否的问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c186894552f19779c57","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ea60dddfa22a0b3541b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q974266eee2122f986244","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":484,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-03T23:47:39.421Z","text":"也可能这个女人与现在这个案子的某些二巡法官 有什么联系…. 总之 肯定不是什么好事.  大家谨慎","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b4e3725cb75c8c9e893","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q974266eee2122f986244","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b4e3725cb75c8c9e893","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q3713f6819c64001a7de0","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":485,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T23:48:39.520Z","text":"q霉让干的事情肯定不是啥好事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q974266eee2122f986244","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3713f6819c64001a7de0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q974266eee2122f986244","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q8aa8ae8f763c54a8cd44","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":486,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-03T23:57:24.146Z","text":"刚刚去看了她的推， 连续超过10个推打这个女人的。  \n\nwow","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aa8ae8f763c54a8cd44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q5470ec5762209a32b75f","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":487,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-04T00:12:46.326Z","text":"这个观察/说法 很给力 - 为什么呀， 托雷斯不让支持者说话","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d6a6474d7d0771fb3da","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5470ec5762209a32b75f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d6a6474d7d0771fb3da","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q993d847b4864e45fc16d","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":488,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T00:24:54.432Z","text":"你把联盟农场的问题怪到托雷斯头上？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5470ec5762209a32b75f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q993d847b4864e45fc16d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5470ec5762209a32b75f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q758191a8acf44f20c922","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":489,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T00:25:22.735Z","text":"联盟农场那些人就没有申请做支持者发言吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q758191a8acf44f20c922","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q731e69dc830010f46906","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":490,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T00:25:45.438Z","text":"包括 [删节：隐私信息] ,你也可以去做支持者陈述啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q731e69dc830010f46906","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qb2faea50507b84bbcb66","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":491,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T00:25:50.791Z","text":"你咋不去？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2faea50507b84bbcb66","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q0d48d47c1f8c75ad6a79","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":492,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-04T00:27:02.055Z","text":"海阔天空去了法庭旁听。\n再把这些照片上传一次。\n大家可以留底","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d2c3d531379e1f24c3e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d48d47c1f8c75ad6a79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q42457a0551d08dbdd144","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":493,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-04T00:31:30.877Z","text":"SB，我在法庭上的地位属于受害者。\n全球几千名支持者、受害者都要去吗？\n那些己经到现场的爱郭贼们，他们口口声声说支持郭，他们既然有条件去现场，就可以去做支持者陈述。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q731e69dc830010f46906","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42457a0551d08dbdd144","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q731e69dc830010f46906","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q277a5574be6d6e7bff15","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":494,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T00:37:31.146Z","text":"受害者也可以出庭为被告求情啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42457a0551d08dbdd144","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q277a5574be6d6e7bff15","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42457a0551d08dbdd144","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q5ba4eb060511c83b737b","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":495,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T00:37:47.442Z","text":"Ava 之前不就给你表演过一遍吗， 法官也允许了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ba4eb060511c83b737b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qaed762685ff85e83c00c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":496,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T00:38:12.680Z","text":"受害者求情更管用啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaed762685ff85e83c00c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q48df1f8974b91c2a9403","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":497,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T00:38:49.430Z","text":"你不去就别找借口了，一个受害者天天说自己要为郭翻案，不是神经病吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48df1f8974b91c2a9403","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q14e0802cbc873e6d47ea","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":498,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T00:43:24.707Z","text":"还是那句话，郭案是用来灭共的，不是用来灭美国的。无论你们怎么洗，这个案子联盟农场和战友的责任70%。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14e0802cbc873e6d47ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q507259dcc74f7a4bb055","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":499,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T00:44:20.740Z","text":"是郭自己说的，最后真战友只有 5%。现在看，根本没有 5%。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q507259dcc74f7a4bb055","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q0ccef3393f0638fd9852","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":500,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T00:45:57.342Z","text":"现在blackrose又想把联盟农场的责任扣到美国头上🤦‍♂️","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42cdd16c6ff541e35709","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ccef3393f0638fd9852","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q08dab40424be9219494a","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":501,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-04T01:03:32.181Z","text":"受害者不能翻案谁规定的？法盲一个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q48df1f8974b91c2a9403","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08dab40424be9219494a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48df1f8974b91c2a9403","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qe6a467ae906bc3042abc","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":502,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-04T01:05:11.398Z","text":"管用你个大鸡巴！\nAva去了，王得到了一个顶格判！\n越来越觉得你令人恶心了。\n你又蠢又坏。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaed762685ff85e83c00c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6a467ae906bc3042abc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaed762685ff85e83c00c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qa649b369e5ad8f9ef416","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":503,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T01:05:45.508Z","text":"她一辈子没有受过这类委屈🤣 \n被十几个华人在二巡揭短，挑战她的权威性，侮辱性极强，比杀了她还难受","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5abce9725ea983ac9bbc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa649b369e5ad8f9ef416","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5abce9725ea983ac9bbc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q2297ccb321966ed13e77","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":504,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T01:09:33.068Z","text":"judgement 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你想在这里耗完这个14天窗口期，对不对啊🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"q62d36f827818c91c0032","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbbef7a3bbc044733e28","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62d36f827818c91c0032","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q0db438328fa87e3795fe","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":507,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-04T01:13:28.411Z","text":"他就是怕我们翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcbbef7a3bbc044733e28","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0db438328fa87e3795fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbbef7a3bbc044733e28","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q60dd0b40421e5749584c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":508,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-04T01:15:25.916Z","text":"青滕有在現場！\nAva、羅伊、佳佳全部都在現場！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c186894552f19779c57","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60dd0b40421e5749584c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qdcb7dc4265ccdbe3c35c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":509,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T01:18:40.672Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 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去帮了什么忙？她给谁帮忙了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf94f8b2894ea29540883","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23015140c932638b929f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf94f8b2894ea29540883","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q462c923bd3482ce50caf","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":513,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-04T01:22:09.913Z","text":"為什麼可以不讓支持者說話的？\n\n\n他媽的辯方律師就是吃屎長大的！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5470ec5762209a32b75f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q462c923bd3482ce50caf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5470ec5762209a32b75f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qe122dc71d3f4817d7959","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":514,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T01:22:36.052Z","text":"这次郭是加刑，我能把这件事怪到你发动议头上吗？ ［用户 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[删节：隐私信息] \n这类人经过培训后，讲话会天生给人下套\n动议 就是 摘桃\n这类语言，是她们的职业病🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5a509cf3c7d1d26ecd1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd38de22733a0556dc924","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a509cf3c7d1d26ecd1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q6de6ee0b2c6f8ee20081","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":527,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-04T01:29:35.183Z","text":"你当然不骂她，因为她跟你是一伙的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q815e5bc920938cce786b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6de6ee0b2c6f8ee20081","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q815e5bc920938cce786b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q7c2863d1e98e6dbc7122","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":528,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T01:30:04.175Z","text":"我可不可以说她和你们是一伙的呢，因为你们都想摘桃","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6de6ee0b2c6f8ee20081","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c2863d1e98e6dbc7122","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6de6ee0b2c6f8ee20081","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q1410f5a96b313ddec4b9","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":529,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T01:30:12.897Z","text":"我又不想摘桃","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1410f5a96b313ddec4b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q42a6401b3a941e34461a","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":530,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T01:30:45.646Z","text":"我是路人，想摘也摘不了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42a6401b3a941e34461a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qd3e18d80ffd1c235bbb8","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":531,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T01:30:53.093Z","text":"你们都是 “战友”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3e18d80ffd1c235bbb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q9349ac2cd2c4554bebb2","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":532,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T01:31:02.699Z","text":"战友都很可疑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9349ac2cd2c4554bebb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qe9cb3c19429e1ea7723e","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":533,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T01:32:15.130Z","text":"也不用和她 ［用户 him***］ 废话\n她混的挺惨，群主工资高，现在没了，只能亲自下场，码字混公分🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"q6de6ee0b2c6f8ee20081","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9cb3c19429e1ea7723e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6de6ee0b2c6f8ee20081","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q8b314605710f58182365","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":534,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-04T01:33:43.581Z","text":"现在她讲一百句话都不如之前说一句话。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b314605710f58182365","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qfc0f223df077c473c5ab","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":535,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T01:39:20.419Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 说了，郭在玩儿你们","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc0f223df077c473c5ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q9c0699aac2b3b94ce812","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":536,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T01:40:29.818Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 你好好看戏， [删节：隐私信息] 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[删节：成员身份] 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别怪别人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q867e980d359e160f9f03","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c920429383bbd104e39","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q867e980d359e160f9f03","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q3a06863c8a2d9794c759","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":560,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-04T02:58:55.378Z","text":"俺估计他这辈子最大的官位就是这个群主了，还是以被人哄下台为结局。\n人家摘桃又没你的份，你还不如滚得远远的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q80c1a883a2cde85ffeec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a06863c8a2d9794c759","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80c1a883a2cde85ffeec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q6eb7bfa3c1907452abc0","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":561,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-07-04T02:59:22.859Z","text":"谁有本事谁吃\n这有什么好争的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eb7bfa3c1907452abc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qc0c92541c6caa715ac70","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":562,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-04T02:59:33.978Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6eb7bfa3c1907452abc0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0c92541c6caa715ac70","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eb7bfa3c1907452abc0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qa2fb0026ca11c2e0b6f7","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":563,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T02:59:48.268Z","text":"你不会真以为有桃吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6eb7bfa3c1907452abc0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2fb0026ca11c2e0b6f7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eb7bfa3c1907452abc0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qb5059446762ffb4b2fc0","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":564,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-07-04T03:30:06.291Z","text":"让二巡讨厌新中国联邦人，讨厌为郭文贵叫怨的人，让司法欺诈和程序不正义堂而皇之地从二巡溜走。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q48a7c6db206a792130ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5059446762ffb4b2fc0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48a7c6db206a792130ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qeea00851c75099971684","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":565,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-04T03:32:35.229Z","text":"一个正常的人被一群人围攻，都会不好意思的退群，但它们这些东西不仅不退出，而且有的还频繁换名字，换小号找骂，由此可见这些东西绝对是带任务来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeea00851c75099971684","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qde5904548b08f66fd6c1","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":566,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-04T03:32:56.140Z","text":"不会 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哪有什么战友","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc7fe1965e4fc3d82a3f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd406109d4fbef6039e1e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc7fe1965e4fc3d82a3f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q2ca47726dadbe6384a4a","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":576,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-07-04T03:41:56.654Z","text":"这是关于新冠病毒谁先爆料的事情，这是在互相抢功，但在中立者眼里，新中国联邦就是一群疯子，而且老郭就是帮主。若老郭能说话，他决不会为这点事发起网上舆论，因为做好事从来不是为了张扬才是真正的有意义。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb34afaf5f1adf40780a3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ca47726dadbe6384a4a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb34afaf5f1adf40780a3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q3f68eb83df7e09d2f7c8","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":577,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-04T03:42:55.589Z","text":"二巡不会管这些事 如果媒体这些事情能影响法律 那老郭就不会进去了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ca47726dadbe6384a4a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f68eb83df7e09d2f7c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ca47726dadbe6384a4a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q53092846579edb5ea540","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":578,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-07-04T03:47:56.859Z","text":"别小看舆论，老郭被判刑出现铺天盖地的舆论就知道美国的舆论还是被盗国贼和卖美贼控制着。老郭就是中美相斗的一个支点。福奇用病毒祸害死那么多美国人也没见美国舆论掀起多少涟漪。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53092846579edb5ea540","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q05f563f3a835521504c8","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":579,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-07-04T03:55:56.269Z","text":"爆料革命不是为了抢功和讨好，而是为了揭露中共的无耻和邪恶，唤醒更多人认清世上邪恶集团的嘴脸，只要达到这个目的，谁先说出新冠病毒是人为释放的又有何意义呢，而且自己去抢功是最low的行为。\n我们是一群不认识老郭的草根，就是因为他的爆料唤醒了我们对中共的重新认知，我们才能坚持死磕到现在。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05f563f3a835521504c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qba46a531d4cce92aef81","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":580,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T04:00:46.725Z","text":"老郭自己说的，爆料革命只有 5%的普通人啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05f563f3a835521504c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba46a531d4cce92aef81","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05f563f3a835521504c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q0488bd48f97a2c923855","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":581,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-04T04:01:05.339Z","text":"哪有什么不认识老郭的草根一说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0488bd48f97a2c923855","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qfe594f2de2baa36fd5b8","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":582,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-04T04:01:55.938Z","text":"你个SB，不要把郭的这句话当圣经，反复重复。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qba46a531d4cce92aef81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe594f2de2baa36fd5b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba46a531d4cce92aef81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q71bee099c03ff6707a1c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":583,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-07-04T04:07:38.207Z","text":"即使老郭被判一万年，他扰动世界，让世界认清中共丑恶嘴脸的历史地位和蝴蝶效应都是无人能比的，老郭直播时墙上的蝴蝶不是乱画的，老郭桌子上放的红绿自由女神是多么的直白和传神，现在人们都相信美国的自由女神就是红绿色了，好像还有红色自由女神怀孕的雕像，也是很传神的，中共对美国的超限战是很成功的，这就是现实。老郭的案子就是中共软刀子入侵美国，干扰美国内政的真实写照。但凡有良知的二巡法官都会推翻托雷斯的判决。为坚持自诉的小伙伴们继续加油👊👊👊🙏🙏🙏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71bee099c03ff6707a1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q35ccd802007a28b5565c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":584,"speaker":"fei***","date":"2026-07-04T08:20:15.641Z","text":"一直有人说王雁平认的是GTV相关的罪行，这完全是错误的，是带风向的，王雁平认的共谋从事电汇欺诈（18 U.S.C. § 1349）\n共谋从事洗钱（18 U.S.C. § 1956(h)）\n\n这两个指控确实伤害非常大啊。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35ccd802007a28b5565c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qa20ebb71d5ef88f7229b","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":585,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-04T08:20:48.654Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q35ccd802007a28b5565c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa20ebb71d5ef88f7229b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35ccd802007a28b5565c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q870c4879e3a1a168fd4d","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":586,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T08:20:49.671Z","text":"你说对了一半","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35ccd802007a28b5565c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q870c4879e3a1a168fd4d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35ccd802007a28b5565c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q7770d5de824e15fce1a6","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":587,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T08:21:47.449Z","text":"王量刑后，还有一个motion，特意说了这个事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7770d5de824e15fce1a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q464cd1ef78b2c582ca60","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":588,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-04T08:21:56.737Z","text":"文件多少","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7770d5de824e15fce1a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q464cd1ef78b2c582ca60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7770d5de824e15fce1a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q3e0c8eb6f61ebcc08e31","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":589,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T08:24:18.636Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd017592fb60b73a5d7a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e0c8eb6f61ebcc08e31","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd017592fb60b73a5d7a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q3f52ffb03255ec5983c3","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":590,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T08:28:31.945Z","text":"484在这","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c25a14221decf2c1a15","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f52ffb03255ec5983c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q55e10b90662fe5107bcb","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":591,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T08:32:49.505Z","text":"王的motion说了，只认两项罪，而且只涉及GTV的部分\n她签字同意的没收范围，是涉及整个G系列","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55e10b90662fe5107bcb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q8c83a0acb38f2055bd08","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":592,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2026-07-04T09:05:31.863Z","text":"小飞象的政屁是否涉嫌欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c83a0acb38f2055bd08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qb0cb0acf26a53a60d128","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":593,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-04T09:18:14.601Z","text":"小飛象笑得多麼的燦爛，\n100%欺詐！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c83a0acb38f2055bd08","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0cb0acf26a53a60d128","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c83a0acb38f2055bd08","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q124c182ada07b0a8aeb1","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":594,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-04T09:48:24.989Z","text":"484没有说只涉及gtv。484主要是回应政府提交的受害者陈述，主要是说这些内容有问题，还说郭的追随者如果有非法行为，应该找追随者，还说王认的两项罪没有rico，所以王对g enterprise 不承担责任。还说了要考虑到它受雇于郭的心理状态，意思就是自己有点被逼无奈，这是在捅刀。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55e10b90662fe5107bcb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q124c182ada07b0a8aeb1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55e10b90662fe5107bcb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q2224019840f94ae84b0c","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":595,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-04T09:53:34.078Z","text":"然后484里，有:Other letters strangely claim that Ms. Wang was trained by the Chinese military7 and is a really a communist agent, arguments that are at odds with,然后后面一段涂黑内容。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2224019840f94ae84b0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q3d8da2d81e571b25b573","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":596,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-04T09:59:49.776Z","text":"王不承担G enterprise\n王涉及的主要就是GtV的转账\n她只认自己涉及的部分","edited":false,"reply_to":"q124c182ada07b0a8aeb1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d8da2d81e571b25b573","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q124c182ada07b0a8aeb1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"q5b746554da57b403899b","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":597,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-04T10:01:07.071Z","text":"这种史诗级大案，肯定会导致系统宕机。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q34e54ab0044c70a9b170","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b746554da57b403899b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131"},{"id":"qe17b11a3f8b54e71b0c7","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":598,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-07-04T10:02:54.692Z","text":"关于王雁平认罪，对着 SDNY 公开 docket（Case 23-cr-00118-AT）核一下，方向大体对，但两个关键细节容易被带偏，纠一下：\n\n① \"认的是电汇欺诈共谋＋洗钱共谋、不止 GTV\"——方向对；但条款不是 §1349 / §1956(h)。\n那张表把起诉书罪名当成了认罪罪名。§1349（电汇/银行欺诈共谋）和 §1956(h)（洗钱共谋）是 S3 起诉书的 Count 2 / Count 3——郭庭审被定的是这两条。\n王实际认的是另一份 S4 简式起诉书（Superseding Information）的两项（认罪笔录 ECF 342、没收令 ECF 329/488）：\n• Count 1 电汇欺诈共谋 ＝ 18 U.S.C. §371（对象罪 §1343）\n• Count 2 洗钱共谋 ＝ 18 U.S.C. §371（对象罪 §1956(a)(1)(B)(i)）\n两项都定 §371。 而 §1349/§1956(h) 作为对王的指控，在她认 S4 时被撤销了——把它俩列成\"最终认罪\"正好弄反。\n为什么这不是抠字眼：§371 每项法定上限 5 年，两项叠加正好封顶 120 个月——这就是她\"判 10 年\"的机制（指南本是无期）；§1349/§1956(h) 每项上限 20 年，引这两条反而把她认罪的法定刑说高了，一被对手翻原文就整段塌。\n\n② 认罪范围也不是\"只 GTV\"。\n她认的 Count One 犯罪计划白纸黑字覆盖 GTV＋农场＋G Club＋喜马拉雅交易所，2018–2023（政府量刑备忘录 ECF 476、§853(n) 裁定 ECF 597）。\"只 GTV\"只是她当庭口供的侧重（ECF 476：\"allocution focused mainly on…GTV Private Placement\"），≠ 认罪范围。\n另：群里说的\"484\"不是 motion，是王律师 2024-12-16 的量刑答辩信（量刑前）；里面王自己也列了四个项目（\"did not directly solicit…GTV, G Clubs, Farm Loans, or Himalaya Exchange\"），并没有\"只 GTV\"这句。\n\n③ \"签字同意没收整个 G 系列\"——清单属实，但三点得一起讲：\n清单在 ECF 488《共识没收令》（横跨 Himalaya/G Club/G Fashion/GETTR/Hamilton/Mahwah ＋ $1.4B），但——\n• 488 只没收\"王本人的 right, title and interest\"，第三方 §853(n) 申请权明确保留（§§7–10），她无权替投资人签掉；\n• 王这份后来被政府 stay（ECF 671），并入郭本人定罪出的没收令 ECF 720 统一处理；她的 $1.4B 是\"与郭 joint & several、以对郭入金钱判决为限\"；\n• 反讽：她口供认的 GTV 私募款反而不在清单里——早被 SEC 追回（约 $411M+）。\n\n小结： 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