{"id":"batch-000132","number":132,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-07-05T03:40:25.080Z","date_end":"2026-07-07T21:49:14.289Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 132 (Jul 5, 2026 – Jul 7, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Jul 5, 2026 to Jul 7, 2026, discussion stayed in one case but split into two tracks: participants relying on court records, witness statements, and procedure to test whether reversal conditions exist, and participants advancing politicized narratives of infiltration, bias, or media manipulation. They disputed case 629, the second-review path tied to Judge Torres, the 37 million funds trail, and links among seizures, restitution, and appeals; no common strategy emerged. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Court records and the evidentiary threshold as the core: whether to use judgments and proceedings instead of speculation","description":"Participants argued that court-file anchoring mattered more than rumor, while still contesting whether the record was sufficient to prove overturning grounds. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qd4083ebe5db27c53804b","q9595f13397b2d28c5fb1","q0205b45538765bbaab5f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd4083ebe5db27c53804b","summary_en":"A participant said that obtaining courtroom materials allows arguments to be made more precisely, shifting debate toward documentary evidence. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9595f13397b2d28c5fb1","summary_en":"A participant claimed the judgment against Guo in case 629 was based on witness testimony plus more than 200 victim statements. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0205b45538765bbaab5f","summary_en":"A participant pointed to the judge not interrupting testimony as support for a procedurally valid hearing atmosphere. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether Guo had intent and where the spokesperson/consultant boundary lies: recurring disputes over fraud liability","description":"Members disputed whether liability required proving Guo's subjective intent or only her promotional role, with competing arguments over who should be named as the key co-conspirator. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q5b5c011ffad84a99038c","q0c112d1f891e711b6957","q4486f3610e97ad027605"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5b5c011ffad84a99038c","summary_en":"A participant argued that if a specific actor was a co-conspirator, naming them directly would be expected, and not naming Yu was treated as a clue in proving shared gain. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0c112d1f891e711b6957","summary_en":"A participant claimed Guo did not run daily operations or directly control funds, presenting her only as spokesperson and adviser. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4486f3610e97ad027605","summary_en":"A participant described the group dynamic itself as locked into a predictable conflict pattern, disputing neutral interpretation of intent and labels. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Second review and the Torres process: delay, dismissal, and whether meaningful relief remains open","description":"Participants contested whether a dismissed motion, a postponement, or the current posture before Torres leaves any real avenue for substantive relief. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2d52469479388330fcae","qd666cd26c17004ea3d0b","q99eb02669607a6cbdac7"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2d52469479388330fcae","summary_en":"A participant disputed a prior assertion as incomplete, signaling disagreement over what the procedural posture actually means. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd666cd26c17004ea3d0b","summary_en":"A participant argued that Torres’ strongest move was a delay and criticized the later hard ruling as counterproductive, disputing that delay alone showed progress. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q99eb02669607a6cbdac7","summary_en":"A participant resisted the claim that reversal was impossible, arguing the door to appeal was not yet conclusively closed. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"The 37 million dispute: overlapping claims over family funds, borrowing, improper transfers, and freeze accounting","description":"Members disputed where 37 million went and whether its movement reflected borrowing practice, misappropriation, or simply the operational effect of account freezes. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q5d7a4207f2f276a551f2","q3e2542506c65d2f24168","qb04b9ec9178a94c7800e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5d7a4207f2f276a551f2","summary_en":"One participant said the charging documents described roughly 37 million being transferred to Guo Mei to back a yacht guarantee. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3e2542506c65d2f24168","summary_en":"A participant said the 37 million could be a loan and argued that financial institutions commonly move reserve funds through investment-like circulation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qb04b9ec9178a94c7800e","summary_en":"A participant traced a Sept 2022 main-account freeze to reserve-manipulation issues, saying a small account remained available for withdrawals and that later, after the 2024 conviction, freezes became total. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Forfeiture and restitution route dispute: whether Wang’s forfeiture decision extends into Guo and victim recovery","description":"Members disputed whether forfeiture handling in the Wang matter was overstated by prosecutors and whether that could be used to recover restitution for victims connected to Guo. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3f1298985edebafbfb6d","qf9664c802312abc7b2a3","q224f09804d1484c27665"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3f1298985edebafbfb6d","summary_en":"A participant claimed Wang only accepted forfeiture of her own G-series assets, while alleging prosecution swept more broadly, framing it as an overreach issue. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf9664c802312abc7b2a3","summary_en":"A participant urged checking Wang’s post-sentencing document and seizure list for the precise allocation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q224f09804d1484c27665","summary_en":"A participant pushed back against label-heavy framing and called for issue-based discussion. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Community roles and labeling conflict: who is collaborator or opponent, and who is steering the narrative","description":"Participants argued over identity tagging inside the group, with claims of staged role-playing and disputed accusations about accomplice narratives versus credible fact-checking. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q368329858b129af23edd","q74c09340be08cdf4c012","q85f23a292ae7d326bc40"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q368329858b129af23edd","summary_en":"A participant challenged another side for not checking court filings, disputing their legal grounding. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q74c09340be08cdf4c012","summary_en":"A participant accused the opposing pair of performing a staged black-white skit and said trust had collapsed between them. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q85f23a292ae7d326bc40","summary_en":"A participant said the earliest claim that Wang was an agent came from someone in the victim statements, disputing the source reliability. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Politicalized interpretations continue rising: CCP infiltration and system-favoritism frames alongside institution-trust debates","description":"Participants argued about politicized explanations, with some contesting that broad systems manipulation explained outcomes while others challenged the leap from legal disputes to state-infiltration claims. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0ef53d4120ee384020f5","q55b4b28d7439c78cc216","q5835f4804e0de8683b0d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0ef53d4120ee384020f5","summary_en":"A participant relayed Guo’s earlier claim that most of Nfsc was corrupt, which was used to support broader anti-system framing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q55b4b28d7439c78cc216","summary_en":"A participant argued the plot reflected deep CCP planning and questioned whether actors were all informants. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5835f4804e0de8683b0d","summary_en":"A participant claimed someone expected U.S. judicial norms after prior proceedings but felt outcomes were unexpectedly harsh, using that contrast to dispute trust in neutrality. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Funding freezes and withdrawal feasibility: contested timing, scope, and account liquidity","description":"Participants disputed whether freezes were standard enforcement steps or unjust constraints, arguing over whether withdrawals were blocked despite remaining liquid channels. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3dc38cc235c0fa2f11c7","q8ef4f763f22b5de87022"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3dc38cc235c0fa2f11c7","summary_en":"A participant said a Sept 2022 fund freeze on the exchange happened before Guo was arrested, with a main account blocked but a smaller account still allowing limited withdrawals. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8ef4f763f22b5de87022","summary_en":"A participant speculated a person may have died by suicide, reflecting emotional escalation in the withdrawal-and-harm debate. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence-source and dissemination dispute: external posts versus in-chat leads","description":"Members argued over whether external social posts and group rumors could be treated as reliable evidence versus unverified links with uncertain provenance. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q994fefd7f687b1a73434","q30d5236c3126ce28b27d","q3e7cee45e9cc15c243f9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q994fefd7f687b1a73434","summary_en":"A participant shared an external social post as supporting material in the dispute. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q30d5236c3126ce28b27d","summary_en":"Another participant added a second external social-post reference to the discussion. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3e7cee45e9cc15c243f9","summary_en":"A participant circulated a mocking prison-related post and interpreted it as symbolic punishment, not verifiable proof. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Future-line divergence: public legal education, continued second-instance contest, or waiting-and-monitoring strategy","description":"Participants argued over immediate next steps, with competing views on third-party pressure, reopening strategy, and whether waiting for procedural channels is the most realistic path. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q7f5abf05f858f666859a","q33002215b59aab391a02","qff75b08541de8ed4b762"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7f5abf05f858f666859a","summary_en":"A participant asked whether a second-instance filing had even been opened, challenging timeline assumptions. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q33002215b59aab391a02","summary_en":"A participant asked what concrete actions outsiders can take, from prompting Torres to revisit violations to forcing procedural speech. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qff75b08541de8ed4b762","summary_en":"A participant argued procedural injustice already passed to second review and asked why further urging was still needed. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论围绕案件走向出现明显两条路径：一条强调以法庭记录、证词、程序节点评估是否具备翻案条件；另一条将事件上升为政治渗透、制度偏袒或舆论操控框架。围绕“共谋与故意”边界、3700万资金去向、冻结提款时点、没收与赔付衔接等财务议题持续分歧。量刑后是否继续上诉、二巡与托雷斯程序是否能打开实质救济窗口，也被反复争论。与此同时，群内还在传播口径、证据来源可信度与成员身份归属上起冲突，情绪化与法理化并行推进，尚未形成统一结论。","guide":[{"title":"法庭资料与证据门槛成核心：是否以判决书与程序记录替代情绪推演","message_ids":["qd4083ebe5db27c53804b","q9595f13397b2d28c5fb1","q0205b45538765bbaab5f"]},{"title":"郭是否主观故意与代言/顾问边界：诈骗责任边界反复拉扯","message_ids":["q5b5c011ffad84a99038c","q0c112d1f891e711b6957","q4486f3610e97ad027605"]},{"title":"二巡与托雷斯程序分歧：驳回、延期与后续救济是否形成真实推进","message_ids":["q2d52469479388330fcae","qd666cd26c17004ea3d0b","q99eb02669607a6cbdac7"]},{"title":"“3700万”去向争论：家族基金、借款、违规转账与冻结口径交错","message_ids":["q5d7a4207f2f276a551f2","q3e2542506c65d2f24168","qb04b9ec9178a94c7800e"]},{"title":"没收与赔付路径争议：王案没收认定是否可牵涉郭案与受害者回款","message_ids":["q3f1298985edebafbfb6d","qf9664c802312abc7b2a3","q224f09804d1484c27665"]},{"title":"群体关系与标签化冲突：谁是同伙/对手，谁在“带节奏”与“红黑”之间拉锯","message_ids":["q368329858b129af23edd","q74c09340be08cdf4c012","q85f23a292ae7d326bc40"]},{"title":"政治化解释持续上升：中共渗透与制度偏袒叙事与制度信任框架并存","message_ids":["q0ef53d4120ee384020f5","q55b4b28d7439c78cc216","q5835f4804e0de8683b0d"]},{"title":"资金冻结与提币可得性：冻结时间、范围及客户资金可否流动被频繁质疑","message_ids":["q3dc38cc235c0fa2f11c7","q8ef4f763f22b5de87022"]},{"title":"证据来源与传播路径之争：外部截图推文与群内线索是否可信并未定型","message_ids":["q994fefd7f687b1a73434","q30d5236c3126ce28b27d","q3e7cee45e9cc15c243f9"]},{"title":"后续行动路线分化：公开频道普法/公开文件、继续二审攻防或等待策略","message_ids":["q7f5abf05f858f666859a","q33002215b59aab391a02","qff75b08541de8ed4b762"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-06T18:44:31.814Z","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132/pages/4","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000132?page=4","page":4,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000132?page=5","prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000132?page=3","messages":[{"id":"q252cf38774128dea1991","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":601,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T01:48:40.678Z","text":"赢麻了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9116548f9d3e20ebd79","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q252cf38774128dea1991","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9116548f9d3e20ebd79","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q62b349807ff8fa653841","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":602,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T01:57:27.344Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]你天天说的喜国人，目前都在青那里，说白了只剩4000网格员，大部分还是江浙沪的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62b349807ff8fa653841","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q504e562e076c8f38f8f8","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":603,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T02:00:18.391Z","text":"而真正投资的，基本都被青赶出去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q504e562e076c8f38f8f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qf633dd42c24a5e45b375","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":604,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T02:01:02.737Z","text":"这4000网格员，没有一分钱投资，却在网上顶着喜国的身份，到处带风向，攻击，打压投资人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf633dd42c24a5e45b375","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q41d3a5aef2a9b0722d2d","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":605,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T02:02:35.913Z","text":"造假文件证据，假受害者陈述，在法庭上配合检方 辩方 luc 盖尔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41d3a5aef2a9b0722d2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q3cec6e0c443417fc62a4","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":606,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-07T02:11:24.929Z","text":"https://x.com/no3mos/status/2074258352272445566?s=12","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cec6e0c443417fc62a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qeb8c39e33cf64f2ceef0","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":607,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-07T02:13:12.613Z","text":"这是我最后一次看联盟拉屎，所有联盟相关账号我都屏蔽了，太恶心人了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb8c39e33cf64f2ceef0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q151faaea45d779155994","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":608,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T02:16:29.001Z","text":"这是给4000网格员喜国人 [删节：隐私信息] 看的 行动指南 赚工分打卡指南","edited":true,"reply_to":"qeb8c39e33cf64f2ceef0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q151faaea45d779155994","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb8c39e33cf64f2ceef0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qbba1d872317969764fa0","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":609,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T02:19:14.219Z","text":"他们一没有郭的沟通渠道\n二也和检方互相提防互相利用\n三要防着类似 [删节：隐私信息] 这样的墙头草随时跑路反水","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbba1d872317969764fa0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q02f72e85291c2c5b6222","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":610,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-07T03:09:15.433Z","text":"https://x.com/innercitypress/status/2071687994516361462?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02f72e85291c2c5b6222","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q4963124d3d403cc4c90e","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":611,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-07T03:11:02.253Z","text":"重庆小哥那个很像是故意的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee05a6bbdc93a0537f6e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4963124d3d403cc4c90e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q0ddcce9a0feb037d78af","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":612,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-07T03:11:29.503Z","text":"没密封的版本是在几天后才发出来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ddcce9a0feb037d78af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q41aa4835fa10b7e8f24c","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":613,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-07T03:11:50.329Z","text":"而且重庆小哥已经要求涂黑了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41aa4835fa10b7e8f24c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q052c9c23aaf6b8cd01a7","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":614,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T03:42:44.245Z","text":"不怕出不来，就怕会出来\n4000网格员“喜国人” [删节：隐私信息] 把郭往死里整\nhttps://x.com/zign93773381/status/2074053078416765308?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q052c9c23aaf6b8cd01a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q3e7cee45e9cc15c243f9","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":615,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T03:46:25.468Z","text":"老郭又贏啦！🤣🤣🤣\n\n我在MDC悬空的被关在一个小盒子里已三年多，去到任何一个监狱都比MDC好🙏\n\n因为可以到室外，可以把脚踩在地上，还可以见到阳光‼️\n\nMDC太脏了，医生都建议不要健身🏋️\n\n老郭馬上就要永遠呆在＂四季酒店＂了🤣🤣🤣\n\n佳佳：老郭說现在如果去任何一个监狱，都像去了四季酒店一样\n\n老子要笑死了😂😂😂\n把他們全部都送進美國版的＂四季酒店＂跟他們的7哥團聚，\n\nhttps://x.com/tchigtvnews/status/2074319767809540453?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e7cee45e9cc15c243f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q55b5784a275229c3727b","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":616,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-07T03:47:21.521Z","text":"国内投资人，被抓过的，CCP早就知道你是谁了。即使美国法院不涂黑，其实也没所谓。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55b5784a275229c3727b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q58b3018b1ae0538da089","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":617,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-07T03:47:49.085Z","text":"再说，如果真是被CCP抓过的，我估计美国法院一定会涂黑的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58b3018b1ae0538da089","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q2111fce08ee9417721ee","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":618,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T03:52:08.393Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 你是不是之前对局势，误判了？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2111fce08ee9417721ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q304e119e6fbfe043d06c","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":619,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T03:52:58.118Z","text":"接下来的走向，控不住了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q304e119e6fbfe043d06c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q984be25deafd78bf4d3e","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":620,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T03:54:11.868Z","text":"王案一垮，破产案luc进不来刑事案，PAX捞不着钱，你也没奖金了啊🤣\n不知道你是怎么想的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q984be25deafd78bf4d3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qf25625980d4500e4b825","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":621,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T03:56:40.512Z","text":"請問為什麼王案垮了Luc就進不來了？🙏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q984be25deafd78bf4d3e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf25625980d4500e4b825","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q984be25deafd78bf4d3e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qb1c9660647f64fdb682b","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":622,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:02:05.506Z","text":"alter ego 垮了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1c9660647f64fdb682b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q0802bb1c60f165dcefb0","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":623,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:02:50.563Z","text":"Tony投资G系列，涉及主权冲突，没有理清前，资产不能处理，王案没资格同意没收\n对冻结的整个G系列，如何处理，还没有定，那么郭案涉及的资产（囊括在G系列里），处理方式，也待定","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf25625980d4500e4b825","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0802bb1c60f165dcefb0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf25625980d4500e4b825","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q4e953f61ce688c5ebb7b","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":624,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T04:07:20.515Z","text":"现在南区已判，哪些因素会在二巡把王案 搞垮？除了上面说的概念上的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e953f61ce688c5ebb7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q3dff2223f39756508476","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":625,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:07:54.547Z","text":"tony","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e953f61ce688c5ebb7b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dff2223f39756508476","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e953f61ce688c5ebb7b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qa65e977ade3449c68f85","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":626,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:07:58.454Z","text":"主权身份冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa65e977ade3449c68f85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qda521f295d7de21ac7d4","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":627,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:08:22.285Z","text":"王认罪的钱 如果是中国国安罪的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda521f295d7de21ac7d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q796910c4769cf342df50","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":628,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T04:08:23.818Z","text":"所以需要二巡下场","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q796910c4769cf342df50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qb4b9fa52cdf36cc7f5b4","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":629,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:08:27.439Z","text":"王无权同意没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4b9fa52cdf36cc7f5b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qd6aaa4ea03796f8bcf3b","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":630,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:08:32.338Z","text":"王认罪，是她自己的事\n同意没收，她没有资格\n\n刑事案资产处理方式，可以是直接赔偿restitution 或者没收firfeiture\n如果是restitution这个方式，冻结的钱从哪个客户来，回哪个客户去，就绕过检方，绕过luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6aaa4ea03796f8bcf3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q2801fc89315ebb4f629b","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":631,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:09:06.027Z","text":"其实搞到最后 这笔钱硬要说 那都是中国政府的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd6aaa4ea03796f8bcf3b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2801fc89315ebb4f629b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6aaa4ea03796f8bcf3b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q14ede9580eee7b5f0fb9","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":632,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:09:33.141Z","text":"王案同意没收整个G系列，这才有破产案luc进到刑事案\n如果是直接赔偿替代没收，luc进不来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14ede9580eee7b5f0fb9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q9e2185d9b3a7f307f73a","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":633,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T04:09:59.842Z","text":"我们知道这些。但是， 落实到二巡， 二巡需要对这个强制令 rule 对不对？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4b9fa52cdf36cc7f5b4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e2185d9b3a7f307f73a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4b9fa52cdf36cc7f5b4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q5d329fd3fbf63fc2fc97","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":634,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:10:41.205Z","text":"看他们怎么处理Tony","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9e2185d9b3a7f307f73a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d329fd3fbf63fc2fc97","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e2185d9b3a7f307f73a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qe194db9f457f64221ead","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":635,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:11:24.646Z","text":"Tony撬动这个：没收G系列，程序是否合理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe194db9f457f64221ead","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qc2ec1adb553d2f5e0032","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":636,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:11:59.485Z","text":"强制令本身 tony只是要上传而已","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9e2185d9b3a7f307f73a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2ec1adb553d2f5e0032","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e2185d9b3a7f307f73a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qd8da990303bd8259e73b","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":637,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:12:13.576Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 关键是rule后面tony的stay和vacate","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8da990303bd8259e73b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q73db3b95fb42dcf3eaa7","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":638,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T04:14:15.834Z","text":"据说有好几个杀手级别的文件等着她呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73db3b95fb42dcf3eaa7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q21af16d4e73f349ba148","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":639,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-07-07T04:26:06.010Z","text":"刑事被告人有权对其不利的证据进行当面对抗质问，这一权利是由《美国宪法第六修正案》（the Sixth Amendment）规定的。\n具体而言，该修正案中包含的“对质条款”（Confrontation Clause）明确规定：“在所有刑事起诉中，被告应享有……与对其不利的证人对质的权利。”\n这项权利的核心目的在于防止仅凭书面证据（如书面证词或单方宣誓书）对被告定罪，确保被告能够亲自面对指控者，并在法庭上通过交叉询问（cross-examine）来检验证人的诚实度与证言的真实性。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21af16d4e73f349ba148","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q7f6a08cc45399205fb81","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":640,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-07-07T04:26:42.886Z","text":"王雁萍认罪被引用了，是否没有经过第六修正案的盘问环节？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f6a08cc45399205fb81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q4ac09446cec0d3a280cc","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":641,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-07-07T04:27:06.187Z","text":"luc没有到场，是否也违反第六修正案？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ac09446cec0d3a280cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q4d7f378116677f786d23","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":642,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:28:57.921Z","text":"王共谋 认罪换不庭审","edited":false,"reply_to":"q21af16d4e73f349ba148","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d7f378116677f786d23","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21af16d4e73f349ba148","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q0749d7e20c1b3504ba70","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":643,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:29:18.667Z","text":"她身份还不是证人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0749d7e20c1b3504ba70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qfe0eccf7735af1bd08f3","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":644,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:30:16.411Z","text":"在纽约南区联邦地方法院（SDNY）的历史上，能把一位手握宪法第三编（Article 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那么美国司法就替中共国安法干了一样的活","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2859e71c7cd8c67d63d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q4efe5f143eb3ceaeb975","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":657,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:48:36.009Z","text":"一旦出现这种情况 那么就触发article iii 司法主权问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2859e71c7cd8c67d63d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4efe5f143eb3ceaeb975","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2859e71c7cd8c67d63d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q35ab1c3bac98c94c7f10","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":658,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:49:01.200Z","text":"这就不是程序级别违规 而是宪法级别","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35ab1c3bac98c94c7f10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qee794b5591059eccc745","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":659,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:49:09.694Z","text":"中美联合办案\n一边定危害国家罪 抓人\n一边定诈骗罪 收钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2859e71c7cd8c67d63d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee794b5591059eccc745","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2859e71c7cd8c67d63d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q59e56f87af8b6f6b56ba","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":660,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:49:19.797Z","text":"还不能这么说","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee794b5591059eccc745","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59e56f87af8b6f6b56ba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee794b5591059eccc745","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q05a901627f191ca2b32b","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":661,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:49:30.737Z","text":"这就是为什么 我说 郭案翻了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee794b5591059eccc745","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05a901627f191ca2b32b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee794b5591059eccc745","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q19c84663ebed74cc0299","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":662,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:49:50.097Z","text":"只要检方敢开remission郭案就翻","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee794b5591059eccc745","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19c84663ebed74cc0299","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee794b5591059eccc745","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q7eba4b969bbc7f5bd48c","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":663,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:51:01.023Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 她背后的，估计发现了问题","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eba4b969bbc7f5bd48c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qcf38a2ca9caeb282f847","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":664,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:51:06.929Z","text":"但是晚了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf38a2ca9caeb282f847","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qd2604f0fc6a0224ff8c6","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":665,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T04:51:11.826Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7eba4b969bbc7f5bd48c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2604f0fc6a0224ff8c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eba4b969bbc7f5bd48c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q1a5ed8f0474a8ab38193","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":666,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:51:46.553Z","text":"无所谓，他们帮这里指明方向","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8a7384980c60ffdc30d2","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a5ed8f0474a8ab38193","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q35c32a760b9e95ee2119","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":667,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T04:51:51.929Z","text":"反方向","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35c32a760b9e95ee2119","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q6dbbc10e4e2eb761f694","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":668,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T05:00:50.428Z","text":"知道班农怎么评价SDNY？ \n其位置重要性仅次于司法部","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfe0eccf7735af1bd08f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dbbc10e4e2eb761f694","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe0eccf7735af1bd08f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qf1fe3b09d8ed8e98ef6f","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":669,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T05:01:25.668Z","text":"sdny应该聘请本群作为常驻司法风险员","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6dbbc10e4e2eb761f694","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1fe3b09d8ed8e98ef6f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dbbc10e4e2eb761f694","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q11bb947560e69c2d9cb6","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":670,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-07-07T05:01:58.739Z","text":"1. 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在国际执法合作中，如果中方为美方破获该项目提供了关键证据，而美方最终成功没收了资产，中美两国可能会达成一个资产分享协议。美国可能会将没收总额的一部分（包括或不限于A的那部分）返还给中国政府，但这属于政府间的政治与法律谈判结果，而不是中国直接去“充公”A的份额。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11bb947560e69c2d9cb6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qd65988e4628e7a7c487f","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":671,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-07-07T05:02:29.900Z","text":"AI说的和你们的判断不一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd65988e4628e7a7c487f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qcd9fafd48d6bc360edc8","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":672,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T05:02:38.881Z","text":"不是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd65988e4628e7a7c487f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd9fafd48d6bc360edc8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd65988e4628e7a7c487f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q2e5ad74e0fc4748e0336","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":673,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-07T05:03:18.602Z","text":"让被中共抓的人去联系美国法庭这件事，这么刺激你啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e5ad74e0fc4748e0336","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qeca421fd7b568b612693","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":674,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T05:03:25.519Z","text":"［用户 0x_***］ 主权问题 已经被人提出 而南区在提出之后加速判决","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeca421fd7b568b612693","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qae3442273bfc0fc2c6ac","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":675,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-07T05:03:41.443Z","text":"看来中共抓捕的人提交证据，就是你们的死穴啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae3442273bfc0fc2c6ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qd9bc3fb19afef77e47c9","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":676,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-07T05:04:26.013Z","text":"你们现在各种转移视线，就是不让国内被抓的人提供证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9bc3fb19afef77e47c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q8a045d4bc8e935eac9e6","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":677,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T05:04:41.103Z","text":"你是不是[屏蔽词]… 被抓的怎么提供证据 越狱？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd9bc3fb19afef77e47c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a045d4bc8e935eac9e6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9bc3fb19afef77e47c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qc44c1131e02faa261b47","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":678,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-07T05:06:21.504Z","text":"这个案子就是用来灭共的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc44c1131e02faa261b47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q16318a0a057854a8c0a2","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":679,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T05:06:26.494Z","text":"你这一段 托雷斯如果复制黏贴 在量刑前 贴出来 那程序是对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q11bb947560e69c2d9cb6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16318a0a057854a8c0a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11bb947560e69c2d9cb6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qad3eea466074b5852c0f","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":680,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T05:06:51.433Z","text":"现在他拒绝澄清主权冲突 加速量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q16318a0a057854a8c0a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad3eea466074b5852c0f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16318a0a057854a8c0a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qa30ec7001a4d5a27ac73","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":681,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-07T05:07:05.773Z","text":"摘桃党天天想把郭搞出来，但是你们没有standing，桃子是别想了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa30ec7001a4d5a27ac73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qf0499e1a0f1b7567204e","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":682,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T05:07:09.352Z","text":"这是正当程序违反","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0499e1a0f1b7567204e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qd8ac428298ec1a2da516","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":683,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T05:07:26.438Z","text":"16个强制令就有16个standing","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa30ec7001a4d5a27ac73","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8ac428298ec1a2da516","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa30ec7001a4d5a27ac73","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qbf1cc384e35677c28373","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":684,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T05:08:46.545Z","text":"［用户 him***］  我今天就来好好教教你这个[屏蔽词] 到底什么是standing。这个案子被告有三人 原告是托雷斯 检方 但是这个案子有16个案中案 原告是16个受害者 /853 被告是托雷斯 检方","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf1cc384e35677c28373","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qd77b34c89998d9f0b5ad","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":685,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:08:56.237Z","text":"是的\n没Tony前，可以装瞎\nTony证据出来了，还装瞎，就说不过去了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeca421fd7b568b612693","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd77b34c89998d9f0b5ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeca421fd7b568b612693","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q09c387bcd9bc0c33c01b","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":686,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T05:10:34.298Z","text":"这16个人的诉讼由强制令路线构成 和原告的诉讼完全两码事 这16人的诉讼和原告虽然联系 但是法律上是独立的 如果这16个案中案导致的司法结论是推翻案件 那么无需原告律师申请 二巡可以直接推翻 懂了吗 [屏蔽词] ［用户 him***］  没有standing 我杀你全家你也没standing","edited":true,"reply_to":"qbf1cc384e35677c28373","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09c387bcd9bc0c33c01b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf1cc384e35677c28373","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q79a642b3e7efdd100740","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":687,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:17:12.269Z","text":"［用户 0x_***］ Tony定卷宗，提出主权冲突\n托雷斯没有处理，直接量刑\n又是一个程序问题","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79a642b3e7efdd100740","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qad497c1c090065967e8a","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":688,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:21:19.494Z","text":"她如果量刑前 po出来你上面的ABC\n那么王案 同意没收G系列 直接垮","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad497c1c090065967e8a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q905d58324b9733028cd8","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":689,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:24:35.329Z","text":"接着郭案涉及资产 如何处理 待定\n郭案不开 “预没收”程序 破产案luc不能进","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q905d58324b9733028cd8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q6343adcf137e014411fa","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":690,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:26:46.743Z","text":"luc和刑事案检方，在716郭案定罪前，提前协议处理Magwah（检方承诺会没收，随后交给luc拍卖），就是司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6343adcf137e014411fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q1ff677e7b200a25ead3e","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":691,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T05:31:27.051Z","text":"https://x.com/DobermanUSA7/status/2074305162647101492?s=20\n\n法盲咋办呢， 说谎都说不明白： Qmay 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明面上的rule of law 不能打破","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcbac5cf9ae2db51320a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q288daa388869e1c2c6c0","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":698,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:39:21.029Z","text":"郭案 就是卡这个\nrule没了 还什么250年 就是笑话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q288daa388869e1c2c6c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q9af0c77161edd21bcfd6","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":699,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T05:43:19.901Z","text":"我們受害人才是這個資金池的真正主人！常識來說應該是先讓投資人來認領，Luc 只能來拿剩下的無主孤魂。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9af0c77161edd21bcfd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q79346bc3dbb5dad63acc","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":700,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:45:02.630Z","text":"长岛开始的盖尔，延续到青\n6000人去刑事案，骂sec\n为什么冻结喜交所，原因都不清楚\n这些人，不是脑残是什么\n这不就是检方说的，6000人不知道自己，其实是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9af0c77161edd21bcfd6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79346bc3dbb5dad63acc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9af0c77161edd21bcfd6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qbc47dc48d041b969d5db","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":701,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T05:45:32.298Z","text":"王是主動向檢方提出認罪的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d7f378116677f786d23","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc47dc48d041b969d5db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d7f378116677f786d23","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qd4f462bbf17bec65ed71","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":702,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T05:47:54.026Z","text":"王主动说自己是共产党员与陈小萍那集， 有原版那年那月那日 …另外群里有人在二巡提这个共产党员的 事吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4f462bbf17bec65ed71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qd758be659d4e0bb8483d","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":703,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T05:50:16.354Z","text":"為什麼現在要讓Luc先吃，他吃飽了吃剩下了才會給我們？？？\n\n常識是：這個資金池里的金錢是我們受害的投資人的資產，我們有權優先取回自己的財產。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd758be659d4e0bb8483d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q61a0f6e3b54e6f9f2445","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":704,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:51:06.936Z","text":"王同意forfeiture没收 替代 restitution直接赔偿\n郭破产，对刑事案涉案资产的处置，没有发言权\n检方再提议，郭案涉案人数多，要参考王案\n这就是做局，王案的没收，套郭案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd758be659d4e0bb8483d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61a0f6e3b54e6f9f2445","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd758be659d4e0bb8483d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qe1fbd4512070b1bce15a","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":705,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T05:53:19.937Z","text":"直接賠償，是否就是像公平基金那樣的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61a0f6e3b54e6f9f2445","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1fbd4512070b1bce15a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61a0f6e3b54e6f9f2445","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q127bcc74905e91ece399","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":706,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:53:53.279Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1fbd4512070b1bce15a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q127bcc74905e91ece399","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1fbd4512070b1bce15a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q65830227820aae6c8f47","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":707,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T05:55:47.568Z","text":"那我們受害人有權要求直接賠償，不同意沒收我的資產。\n\n王雁平有什麼權利同意如何处理我的財產？王的簽字同意沒收無效。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65830227820aae6c8f47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q224f183e1b270f9c3ef7","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":708,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:57:49.290Z","text":"当时辩方不质疑 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美国小李，这不就是他们背后主子嘛","edited":true,"reply_to":"q65830227820aae6c8f47","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q224f183e1b270f9c3ef7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65830227820aae6c8f47","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q09cbe6616eeb3e3057c8","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":709,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T06:00:11.377Z","text":"我們是獨立自訴人，不需要任何人代表或代理我。\n先把我們自訴人的財產返還，其他的再給代理人。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q224f183e1b270f9c3ef7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09cbe6616eeb3e3057c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q224f183e1b270f9c3ef7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qed08a2800d4b3295924f","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":710,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T06:01:14.332Z","text":"这不，托雷斯胆大，不处理CVRA，就直接量刑+没收🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q09cbe6616eeb3e3057c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed08a2800d4b3295924f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09cbe6616eeb3e3057c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qfb1040a9d9ca6d1b610a","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":711,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T06:01:31.693Z","text":"二巡怎么看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb1040a9d9ca6d1b610a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qd4931480dd4073bfbaeb","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":712,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T06:04:27.212Z","text":"她的主子看到越來越多的自訴人站進了法庭，他們的謊言很快會被戳穿，所以以免夜長夢多，快刀斬亂麻，強判！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed08a2800d4b3295924f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4931480dd4073bfbaeb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed08a2800d4b3295924f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q5b9603d2d7c5829772ec","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":713,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T06:06:47.337Z","text":"问题在于\n强判+没收 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\n这二位之前“撤退”，以为量刑就完事了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q808fe16e39a5fb130c24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qf0f236678793b1829626","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":716,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T06:11:46.990Z","text":"其实量刑，才是程序不正义的certificate","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0f236678793b1829626","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q408a863b836f752beddb","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":717,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T06:12:13.589Z","text":"他们被瑞恩骗了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q408a863b836f752beddb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"q18aba050ef6cccdd7b43","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":718,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T06:12:23.258Z","text":"以为真的量不了刑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18aba050ef6cccdd7b43","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132"},{"id":"qdbd43a78ef26ef54e678","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":719,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T06:12:47.791Z","text":"瑞恩希望的就是抢跑 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