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那个是二巡经典判例","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab8ead7fa0df2a9d185b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qb193ba93b203891e12df","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":21,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T21:53:49.327Z","text":"所有法官都会按照那个来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb193ba93b203891e12df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qa1c055c69087cc3b1668","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":22,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T21:54:52.198Z","text":"这一次二巡一定会把托雷斯这个毒瘤切掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1c055c69087cc3b1668","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q3c9aa61f352b5945a7a0","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":23,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-07T21:54:57.060Z","text":"你现在有点老郭一样，你的分析建立在一个前提下，就是美国司法会秉公办案，但事实是从托雷斯开始就已经胡作非为了，你怎么保证二巡不会","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6151bc79394074b47ed","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c9aa61f352b5945a7a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6151bc79394074b47ed","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q43e7be0f3fa2bd07630c","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":24,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T21:55:12.750Z","text":"不是秉公的问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c9aa61f352b5945a7a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43e7be0f3fa2bd07630c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c9aa61f352b5945a7a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q6eb981670f6450d0a31e","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":25,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T21:55:19.650Z","text":"是他们的制度规则","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c9aa61f352b5945a7a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eb981670f6450d0a31e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c9aa61f352b5945a7a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qfd953e672d004e5d563b","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":26,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T21:55:38.437Z","text":"二巡胡作非为 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一定会抓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb8727d7211f9b46a38f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q6c505c74fac22b7e2a39","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":39,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-07T21:58:07.726Z","text":"如果是赌，那就不可控了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c505c74fac22b7e2a39","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q9e7f682be1c4137de1e9","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":40,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T21:58:10.533Z","text":"但螺丝哥自首 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二巡也没反应","edited":false,"reply_to":"q114444ab01f120024dd5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbe5fc49c29d80cb4a96","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q114444ab01f120024dd5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q598e7bec615ad75f47e0","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":51,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-07T21:59:58.015Z","text":"监督地方法院这是他们的职责，不是想不想的问题，而是敢不敢愿不愿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5129cae6b2dcabd9eeba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q598e7bec615ad75f47e0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5129cae6b2dcabd9eeba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q5798657f7f96a6626ce2","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":52,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T22:00:06.816Z","text":"二巡这次不修理托雷斯南区所有地区法官都敢抢跑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8919a857c0e9335ff420","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5798657f7f96a6626ce2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8919a857c0e9335ff420","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qeec77da19603193d0c63","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":53,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-07-07T22:00:11.040Z","text":"作为一个机构本能的权力欲？就像警察总是怀疑调查对象，检方一定要习惯定罪一样？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeec77da19603193d0c63","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q6187c39be0f5a10e9efa","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":54,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T22:00:27.901Z","text":"并且给其他巡回法庭创造判例","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6187c39be0f5a10e9efa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qf75b6aab24c4e91199b1","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":55,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T22:00:31.678Z","text":"全美都可以引用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf75b6aab24c4e91199b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q4e0ef517588c40b42bec","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":56,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T22:00:34.274Z","text":"都可以抢跑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e0ef517588c40b42bec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q12b26508f29554750ae6","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":57,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T22:00:43.714Z","text":"这是绝不可能发生的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12b26508f29554750ae6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q66ccdfbdec12760d86df","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":58,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-07-07T22:00:47.474Z","text":"二巡的职责是监督下级法院，这是他们工作的okr？还是啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66ccdfbdec12760d86df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q5f5b72546f4e2d3bde46","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":59,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T22:00:59.309Z","text":"监督下级法院 纠错","edited":false,"reply_to":"q66ccdfbdec12760d86df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f5b72546f4e2d3bde46","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66ccdfbdec12760d86df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q6515996569e2aec53b64","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":60,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-07-07T22:01:11.947Z","text":"这是你说的底层逻辑吗，还是别的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6515996569e2aec53b64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q2724305b4fda205a9cab","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":61,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T22:01:24.780Z","text":"不是 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书记员 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觉得可以下山的时候自然就下来","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f974abac0ef2f989755","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q030cf1bfed6985fa0429","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":134,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-07T22:57:55.276Z","text":"怎么样能敲打一下二巡？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q030cf1bfed6985fa0429","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q852d26838b7cef8858dd","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":135,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T22:58:47.116Z","text":"不用敲打","edited":false,"reply_to":"q030cf1bfed6985fa0429","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q852d26838b7cef8858dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q030cf1bfed6985fa0429","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q1f5424e02e44ac87e245","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":136,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T22:58:59.366Z","text":"他们比谁都精","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f5424e02e44ac87e245","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q3169de66134e70544673","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":137,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-07-07T23:00:45.233Z","text":"应该是为了取证后清除痕迹把你输入法历史记录给删了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q956bb5303018aee7dc58","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3169de66134e70544673","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q956bb5303018aee7dc58","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q0c7425bd98aadce5abe1","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":138,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T23:02:28.709Z","text":"deny 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他们自然就下场","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2e5685a61f266576078","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q4544e73060dd061219f9","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":140,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T23:02:51.076Z","text":"所以deny不代表任何事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4544e73060dd061219f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qe48da32b722206a0ef03","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":141,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T23:03:10.945Z","text":"这就是联邦巡回法庭的正常节奏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe48da32b722206a0ef03","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q6eb8ab8e25bdc15125c7","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":142,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-07-07T23:04:12.025Z","text":"一些取证工具可能会收集你输入法的使用习惯，这个过程输入法的数据库损坏了。也可能给你手机植入监控程序了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eb8ab8e25bdc15125c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qc8241e5f0d3fbbd507a7","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":143,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-07-07T23:04:30.989Z","text":"你担心的话可以换个手机什么的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8241e5f0d3fbbd507a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q9e31ba4f12ba06b60da4","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":144,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-07T23:13:04.523Z","text":"如果他们全部都deny我们真的得申请全院重审了😂                                                                      给您的实操建议：\n如果您在二巡的案件中认为法院存在法律错误，您应当先在二巡穷尽救济途径（例如申请 Panel Rehearing 或 En Banc Rehearing，即要求原审委员会或全体法官重审）。只有当这些途径走完，或者您认为巡回法院的最终裁决严重违反了宪法或联邦法律时，您才会进入考虑向最高法院提交 Cert Petition 的阶段。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2e5685a61f266576078","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e31ba4f12ba06b60da4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2e5685a61f266576078","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q008a454d48baa9aade68","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":145,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T23:13:40.600Z","text":"可以申请 但如果全都deny 就是他们下场的时候","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9e31ba4f12ba06b60da4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q008a454d48baa9aade68","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e31ba4f12ba06b60da4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q041d770b637d14de137b","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":146,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T23:13:49.477Z","text":"我现在明白他们怎么玩了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q041d770b637d14de137b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q697acf53f93eaa533097","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":147,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T23:13:55.855Z","text":"deny 就是 看过了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q697acf53f93eaa533097","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q3619ac1cf6abae822160","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":148,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-07T23:14:13.134Z","text":"他们还是很审慎的，只是驳回了确定得驳回的部分","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4544e73060dd061219f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3619ac1cf6abae822160","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4544e73060dd061219f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qac3ddc22ee0fe917ca2e","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":149,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-07T23:14:24.886Z","text":"到时候 要动手 他们不可能说 approve我们的东西去动手 而是把我们deny 然后他们自己动手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac3ddc22ee0fe917ca2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q2c78216bda3daddff153","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":150,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T23:16:44.211Z","text":"真的假不了 假的真不了。大家有点耐心 信心","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c78216bda3daddff153","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q305e28585269e2fcf6aa","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":151,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-07T23:20:07.730Z","text":"是啊，继续完善纪录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q305e28585269e2fcf6aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qe397e9f9280d5a781a0f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":152,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-07T23:20:18.592Z","text":"还有好多没写呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe397e9f9280d5a781a0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qbe3113ad5e9fe9b6bf35","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":153,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-07-07T23:24:00.669Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2074635430528684208?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe3113ad5e9fe9b6bf35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q4175f2937aab06e48125","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":154,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T23:53:00.083Z","text":"大家从共产党的喉舌的宣传， 就可以得出这个结论： 要想撤销量刑， 就必须把诈骗这个叙事打掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4175f2937aab06e48125","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q2767acc82004f7f23ec0","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":155,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T23:54:24.746Z","text":"诈骗， 应该有受害人， 受害金额， 对不对？ \n\n那么 在这个案件中， 谁是受害人？ 他们的受害金额有没有经过第三方 验证？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2767acc82004f7f23ec0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q2d9fa21e7c89939e234d","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":156,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-08T00:11:32.643Z","text":"那些被逼报假案的， 被无辜放在受害人名单上的， 现在可以站出来， 让二巡知道这个叙事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d9fa21e7c89939e234d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qab1d76061101e0a99873","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":157,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-08T00:28:51.258Z","text":"還是需要做好二巡如果維持原判的思想準備，到時需要怎麼應對。\n讓二巡全盤推翻地方法院的判決的難度是相當高，而且這樣的先例並不多。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea6f818b4eab2d1083b1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab1d76061101e0a99873","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea6f818b4eab2d1083b1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q6fdd339b8ae2d1412a06","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":158,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T00:29:18.593Z","text":"不多 但ligon 微软案是前车之鉴","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab1d76061101e0a99873","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fdd339b8ae2d1412a06","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab1d76061101e0a99873","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q6ff40dc021c1d6d97351","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":159,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-07-08T00:29:50.283Z","text":"有些受害者名单没有公开、也有可能被别人填表了的，怎么办？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ff40dc021c1d6d97351","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q23c955174b11f52cfc3f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":160,"speaker":"bia***","date":"2026-07-08T00:35:49.115Z","text":"在哪里可以看到自己是否在受害者的名单里，","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d9fa21e7c89939e234d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23c955174b11f52cfc3f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d9fa21e7c89939e234d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qc84e1b924b8c7142eb38","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":161,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T00:54:44.118Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  [删节：隐私信息]  [删节：隐私信息]  你们那个panel 我才发现 是二巡最大的那个大boss亲自坐镇","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc84e1b924b8c7142eb38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q4dc4ae62d07972446947","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":162,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T00:59:09.068Z","text":"美国联邦第二巡回上诉法院（二巡）的现任首席大法官为雷蒙德·罗海尔（Raymond J. Lohier）。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dc4ae62d07972446947","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q86fde66259a3f5fa2d82","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":163,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T00:59:22.556Z","text":"这货是七月份刚刚成为二巡首席大法官！！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4dc4ae62d07972446947","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86fde66259a3f5fa2d82","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dc4ae62d07972446947","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q5c79288f6b998eba5bf2","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":164,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T01:01:00.292Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  如果要包庇托雷斯 最有动机的就是这位","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c79288f6b998eba5bf2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q7e5849f3fa44b78ba589","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":165,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-08T01:01:08.320Z","text":"是誰任命的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e5849f3fa44b78ba589","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qeaacf44d6e3fec17d4f7","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":166,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T01:01:17.415Z","text":"奥巴马","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaacf44d6e3fec17d4f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qe9a71ee06df5bceedb25","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":167,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T01:05:39.481Z","text":"意思他成为法官是奥巴马任命的，刚成为大法官是谁决定的呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeaacf44d6e3fec17d4f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9a71ee06df5bceedb25","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaacf44d6e3fec17d4f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q27999495774627aa33f1","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":168,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T01:06:03.688Z","text":"之前那个退了 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也可以利用天道 让他们斗的你死我活","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c22071f44a9768e2c9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q85851e44ca3c59331da2","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":179,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T01:12:48.636Z","text":"怎么刚好这节点老首席退了，不会是被人劝退的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85851e44ca3c59331da2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qddbc4e3d1715a856fb89","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":180,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-08T01:14:38.754Z","text":"我們手上沒有一箭封喉的材料，就算有，那也要有人肯認才行。\n\n只能一層層往上捅","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddbc4e3d1715a856fb89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q9ceed5c930943f037222","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":181,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T01:17:00.087Z","text":"tony有","edited":false,"reply_to":"qddbc4e3d1715a856fb89","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ceed5c930943f037222","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddbc4e3d1715a856fb89","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q56186290a496e850b30f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":182,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-08T01:17:17.979Z","text":"發郵件給老川，請他特赦，先放出來，之後老郭就完全可以攪動江湖，翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56186290a496e850b30f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qadbb6e09ec3ab20dc50f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":183,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-08T01:18:00.019Z","text":"問題是法官耍流氓不認🫣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ceed5c930943f037222","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadbb6e09ec3ab20dc50f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ceed5c930943f037222","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q043c39336502cfc155c3","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":184,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-08T01:20:51.983Z","text":"二巡会在被告提交上诉通知后不久，被告还没有提交简报，以量刑程序不完整为由，用固有权力撤销量刑，发回重新量刑。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q043c39336502cfc155c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q4905ecd6e94aec5b57fb","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":185,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T01:21:32.904Z","text":"这就看他们想钓鱼托雷斯到什么时候","edited":false,"reply_to":"q043c39336502cfc155c3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4905ecd6e94aec5b57fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q043c39336502cfc155c3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qdac2a98f516612dc8a37","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":186,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T01:22:25.044Z","text":"以前托尼他们分配法官名字有原首席吗？现首席是自动接替原首席还是他上来后又重新调配了他自己介入","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c22071f44a9768e2c9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdac2a98f516612dc8a37","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c22071f44a9768e2c9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qb93ead1d9cdefc3972f7","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":187,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T01:23:58.836Z","text":"之前首席没在","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdac2a98f516612dc8a37","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb93ead1d9cdefc3972f7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdac2a98f516612dc8a37","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qc82c360861805f789876","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":188,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-08T01:24:37.944Z","text":"請問二巡為什麼要這樣做？他們有什麼利益？老郭又不是二巡法官的爹🤭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q043c39336502cfc155c3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc82c360861805f789876","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q043c39336502cfc155c3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q41d634aff335dc851b33","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":189,"speaker":"spr***","d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