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你的exuibit6呢？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3670aac025b00e80aba4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q956bc35e8df40b76be0c","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":404,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T07:36:22.535Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 你欺诈法庭","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q956bc35e8df40b76be0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qf3bb83d0abf24595f8a8","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":405,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-08T07:37:30.480Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 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这个案子玩完儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q377358ba14a091ad8f2a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fae1ff9069469b5889d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q377358ba14a091ad8f2a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qff562dcfb9e1daee6d51","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":481,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-08T13:58:11.306Z","text":"国会是国会","edited":false,"reply_to":"q28079b94c22f55c46c64","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff562dcfb9e1daee6d51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28079b94c22f55c46c64","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q0b866e8f8068dd639fca","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":482,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-08T13:58:27.720Z","text":"这个案子 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你较什么真","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb7ee69f0c0add260f684","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a1541ff702387a43063","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q0ff22cf28ba2d70ad6d2","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":486,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-08T14:23:22.010Z","text":"郭先生刑事案862号文档。\n- 此文档为上诉通知书（Notice of Appeal），提交给美国纽约南区法院，用于向美国第二巡回上诉法院提起上诉。\n- 上诉的提交日期为7月2日，即判决正式录入当日，德拉特尔律师就已经代表郭先生向第二巡回上诉法院提出上诉。\n- 上诉书显示，郭先生对定罪和量刑均提出异议。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ff22cf28ba2d70ad6d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q365b5e41630172a3cc4f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":487,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T14:48:57.439Z","text":"Dratel, 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是律所名字的话，也不一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ca43655bfaf4de87bcd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q94e6b11718a68b6fd4b7","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":489,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T14:54:05.767Z","text":"但是还是纽约律所","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94e6b11718a68b6fd4b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q706cb8606d4abf6b542d","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":490,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T14:55:40.770Z","text":"3个量刑律师是不是不是一个律所的呀，各有各的律所名字？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q706cb8606d4abf6b542d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qf7f575cfb4561f5d76db","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":491,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T14:56:18.083Z","text":"回复我的是这个 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7f575cfb4561f5d76db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q32cbfa9df5603d09cf55","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":492,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T15:13:33.380Z","text":"感觉快赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32cbfa9df5603d09cf55","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q8c87a8b7169a94af6f53","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":493,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-08T15:29:13.090Z","text":"一定贏！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c87a8b7169a94af6f53","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q4431c1a8eb01dcf7860f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":494,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T15:41:29.851Z","text":"是原来的律师里面的一个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q365b5e41630172a3cc4f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4431c1a8eb01dcf7860f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q365b5e41630172a3cc4f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q26105743d7616aeca071","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":495,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T15:46:39.412Z","text":"这个dratel是专门搞cipa的好像","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26105743d7616aeca071","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q324a33534204b334f44a","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":496,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T15:46:45.354Z","text":"估计要死磕cipa","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q324a33534204b334f44a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qf55b31420e3991fb9438","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":497,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-07-08T15:47:47.310Z","text":"cipa有大料","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf55b31420e3991fb9438","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q8f64bb5ac238c3cc30d1","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":498,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T15:47:52.010Z","text":"又被人牵着鼻子了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26105743d7616aeca071","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f64bb5ac238c3cc30d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26105743d7616aeca071","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q3b3af8e760fb65f1d3c5","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":499,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T15:48:50.758Z","text":"在纽约乃至全美联邦上诉界，Dratel & Lewis 绝对不是那种普通的商业律所，而是一支专门处理**“国家安全、极端复杂的白领犯罪、以及地狱难度联邦上诉”的特种法律部队**。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b3af8e760fb65f1d3c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q2ae5273b80b8c40afb9b","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":500,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T15:49:28.033Z","text":"对本案的意义： 他对美国联邦检察官办公室（特别是 SDNY）的起诉套路、以及政府如何利用跨境手段来收集证据、进行财产没收（Forfeiture）的底层逻辑，熟悉到了骨子里。他是全美极少数拥有**最高安全级别许可（Top Secret Security Clearance）**的刑事辩护律师，这意味他可以直接查阅涉及跨国背景、敏感政治内幕的秘密不公开证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae5273b80b8c40afb9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qfa4604614ab56cc070da","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":501,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T15:49:35.609Z","text":"［用户 ton***］ 真的要死磕cipa","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa4604614ab56cc070da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qb5a14f999dd0aafbbe6e","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":502,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-07-08T15:57:09.861Z","text":"Joshua Dratel 是资深联邦刑辩律师，强项在国家安全、恐怖主义、情报/机密材料、宪法程序权利这类案件；CIPA 是他核心工具箱之一。\n\n证据分三层：\n\n1. 郭案案卷里\n\n  • 郭案的 CIPA 问题早在 2023 年就存在。Doc 30 里检方已经预告会走 Classified Information Procedures Act。\n  • 2024 年审判前，CIPA 已经围绕 Witness-2、机密信息交叉询问打过一轮，主要文件是 Doc 339、Doc 340。\n  • Dratel 后来接手后，在 Doc 783 亲自提交 CIPA §4 动议，要求法院重新审查政府 2023 年提交的机密材料，用于量刑阶段。\n  • 他在 Doc 783 脚注里还直接说，自己曾在多个 CIPA §4 案件中担任辩护律师，包括 Hausa, Mostafa, Babar, Moalin, El-Mezain 等。\n2. 法院怎么处理\n\n  • Torres 法官在 Doc 805 驳回了 Dratel 的请求。\n  • 法官核心意思是：法院之前已经审过 CIPA §4 材料；仅仅因为进入量刑阶段、相关性范围更宽，不足以重新打开 CIPA 程序。\n  • 所以 Dratel 的 CIPA 路线是真实存在的，但法院目前没买账。\n3. 公开履历\n\n  • Dratel & Lewis 官方简介显示，他长期做联邦刑辩、国家安全、恐怖主义相关案件，并担任过 NACDL 国家安全委员会主席。\n  • 他也写过 CIPA、FISA、反恐刑辩伦理相关主题文章。\n\n所以一句话：\nDratel 不是普通诈骗案律师，他是“国家安全型刑辩律师”。在郭案里，他被看中的是处理 CIPA、情报接触、中共/美国政府相关敏感材料的经验，而不是单纯没收或量刑经验。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5a14f999dd0aafbbe6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q6131679f3298f56bb49f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":503,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T16:02:51.205Z","text":"［用户 ton***］ cipa应该是去炸案件根基的","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb5a14f999dd0aafbbe6e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6131679f3298f56bb49f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5a14f999dd0aafbbe6e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q27d974661e47b351400e","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":504,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-07-08T16:08:50.931Z","text":"这是最快最简单的翻盘路径","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27d974661e47b351400e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qdb96dbb3a0dd070509d6","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":505,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-08T16:10:21.498Z","text":"上诉律师跟一审律师不是都不一样吗？他们业务都不一样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4431c1a8eb01dcf7860f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb96dbb3a0dd070509d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4431c1a8eb01dcf7860f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q14e5504eae7ec3ba5032","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":506,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T16:10:34.224Z","text":"能做的不一样","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb96dbb3a0dd070509d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14e5504eae7ec3ba5032","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb96dbb3a0dd070509d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q4a9252ea850ea45a0b75","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":507,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-08T16:12:14.424Z","text":"瑞恩要上的炸弹与这个也有关吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6131679f3298f56bb49f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a9252ea850ea45a0b75","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6131679f3298f56bb49f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q617a58af0f7673349e05","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":508,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T16:12:30.284Z","text":"有关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a9252ea850ea45a0b75","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q617a58af0f7673349e05","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a9252ea850ea45a0b75","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qbb4e57eea0479ecfebbf","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":509,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-08T16:13:42.719Z","text":"McConnell怕是挂了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb4e57eea0479ecfebbf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q1ed9719e7725c8f54d88","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":510,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-08T16:14:06.276Z","text":"保护伞少了一个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ed9719e7725c8f54d88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q5a6a370ed490dd97b160","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":511,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-08T16:14:15.280Z","text":"老郭知道里面有啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa4604614ab56cc070da","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a6a370ed490dd97b160","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa4604614ab56cc070da","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qa0c2b58fa03d9e1c12c9","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":512,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-08T16:15:32.380Z","text":"那中共审查迫害投资者跟cipa 有关系吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q617a58af0f7673349e05","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0c2b58fa03d9e1c12c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q617a58af0f7673349e05","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qfde247d8d981b2330507","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":513,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-08T16:19:43.906Z","text":"昨天二巡的那个deny说明二巡看了自诉人的文件， 咱们的就是正餐前的热身。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfde247d8d981b2330507","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q543e1beb60d536dd334d","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":514,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-08T16:20:03.777Z","text":"一点点铺垫","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q543e1beb60d536dd334d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qe06e794056808b823161","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":515,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-08T16:21:57.862Z","text":"853n自诉人这个是个南区的坎儿，托雷斯过不去。\n\n再加上其他的， 就像建个房子， 一砖一瓦的堆积","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe06e794056808b823161","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q27c3b6c7a67d0d13b3b8","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":516,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-08T16:23:13.403Z","text":"指不定 CIPA里有类似Tony的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0c2b58fa03d9e1c12c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27c3b6c7a67d0d13b3b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0c2b58fa03d9e1c12c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q1f7c8919efc343c7b06c","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":517,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-08T16:26:39.954Z","text":"说不定还有联盟里的，潜伏编号？🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f7c8919efc343c7b06c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q2828882b3b72eef51838","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":518,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T16:33:44.107Z","text":"724是他的，讲些什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ae5273b80b8c40afb9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2828882b3b72eef51838","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae5273b80b8c40afb9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q0d13cd23638043f45764","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":519,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-08T16:38:03.604Z","text":"https://x.com/bbwwblack1/status/2074713184334954682?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d13cd23638043f45764","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qc1b4020efd7b5990c523","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":520,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T16:42:51.064Z","text":"724他要求把破产luc那里的转交给刑事庭的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1b4020efd7b5990c523","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qd62622eead1a43749f63","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":521,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T16:43:53.864Z","text":"SEC的退款，只剩余8000万没有退完了                        021年9月，证券交易委员会（“SEC”）与GTV就SEC提起的诉讼达成了和解。参见ECF #716，第4页注释2。该和解方案设立了一项基金及相应机制，旨在向受影响的投资者返还4.554亿美元。据了解，该基金中除8000万美元外，其余款项均已分发给投资者。因此，郭先生未将该基金或该基金中的任何剩余款项纳入本次申请。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd62622eead1a43749f63","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q8973cb84b5e18b207621","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":522,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-08T16:45:33.732Z","text":"GTV在王案，还是在没收清单\n王也签字同意，现在看来，王就是帮着检方抢劫\n意思是，GTV推给投资者的，还要拿回来","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd62622eead1a43749f63","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8973cb84b5e18b207621","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd62622eead1a43749f63","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q1c41a6615df9c56a82ac","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":523,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T16:53:21.320Z","text":"3700万只是担保会把船移回美国区域，移回来了后luc应该把钱退回来，他也不退，                                    （17）根据破产程序中的一项约定，于 2022 年 4 月提供给受托人的 3700 万美元资金，作为将“Lady May”号游艇归还至美国司法管辖区的担保（即便在“Lady May”号归还后，受托人仍保留了这笔资金）。见起诉书，第 19(g) 段；","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c41a6615df9c56a82ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q5295b48c994ef5b797d8","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":524,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T16:55:22.662Z","text":"这个724实际就是详细列出了所有LUC控制 的资产啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5295b48c994ef5b797d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q4aab8e27457c79272e1d","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":525,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-08T17:01:35.807Z","text":"从第一次抽奖就拿到特等奖一台兰博基尼，到郭先生被弄进MDC后坐在屏幕前声称自己是郭先生的律师(其身份与郭案件有冲突)，接着2024年7月庭审后法庭披露出来的文件显示长岛动了一大笔钱买了张勇兵的律所，……，由此推断出张勇兵在郭先生案件中的角色不简单，maybe 其乃郭先生案件的主要操盘手之一，因此可以考虑从张操作的一系列事件中找到打开郭先生案件缺口的罅隙，找到突破口。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d13cd23638043f45764","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aab8e27457c79272e1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d13cd23638043f45764","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qf7c7ced8e216a55b0d26","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":526,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-08T17:02:55.838Z","text":"他原本身份只是一名移民律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7c7ced8e216a55b0d26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q6e594299287d423d72c4","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":527,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-08T17:03:11.645Z","text":"郭先生的案件是刑事案件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e594299287d423d72c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qaffd64f356eb6428e552","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":528,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T17:03:58.660Z","text":"破产债权人地位后于政府                     First, the funds and assets in the Trustee’s possession should be used to reduce any\nforfeiture obligation imposed upon Mr. Guo rather than be distributed to debtors in inferior\nposition to the U.S. government.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaffd64f356eb6428e552","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q2cd49f2148b540d19c61","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":529,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-08T17:07:13.899Z","text":"这是在扯皮，检方当然不会同意\n没收的目的，就是把G系列优先给破产案luc","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaffd64f356eb6428e552","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cd49f2148b540d19c61","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaffd64f356eb6428e552","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q7a57cdd6b45dd8e689e8","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":530,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-08T17:09:22.577Z","text":"他协调安排的辩方证人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4aab8e27457c79272e1d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a57cdd6b45dd8e689e8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aab8e27457c79272e1d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qf89264984d6430d04350","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":531,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-08T17:10:38.689Z","text":"https://x.com/kk26400689/status/2074897583634313676?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf89264984d6430d04350","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q77600046eac0e5487e1d","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":532,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-08T17:11:10.713Z","text":"左右手互搏。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7a57cdd6b45dd8e689e8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77600046eac0e5487e1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a57cdd6b45dd8e689e8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q86a7929412211a5d23df","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":533,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-08T17:16:21.418Z","text":"这个其实没什么意义\n因为他们自己已经没法圆谎\n喜国只剩下4000网格员 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf89264984d6430d04350","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86a7929412211a5d23df","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf89264984d6430d04350","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qde8192262ec9b507b70d","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":534,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T17:31:18.540Z","text":"这些索赔主张是否成立或准确尚不得而知——其中许多（甚至绝大多数）很可能是毫无根据和/或金额严重虚高的——但对这些索赔提出异议（甚至达成和解）无疑将大幅消耗破产财产。此外，索赔人范围与刑事案件中应通过退赔和赔偿获得补偿的人员范围并不完全重合；","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde8192262ec9b507b70d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q4b9a1778d25495386946","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":535,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-08T17:42:30.459Z","text":"Bao Chu 的南区文件号是多少？它的文件在 ECF上应该也没被涂黑吧？那它也可以象你一样去南区大闹呀。最近王女士的也是同样情况，大家都可以去闹，看看法官会不会专门出个861命令偷偷认错。哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f33aca8fe81fb7fd50c","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b9a1778d25495386946","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qc9142413933b964f6063","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":536,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-08T18:11:56.738Z","text":"别人的长篇大论我会尽量耐心看完，对于 [删节：成员身份] 的长篇大论我直接飘过。没屏蔽它就算不错了。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q270e430aa444850f24ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9142413933b964f6063","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q270e430aa444850f24ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q0afa1851113f28e5581f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":537,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-08T18:17:50.817Z","text":"我的也没涂黑，我也要去搞托雷斯一把","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b9a1778d25495386946","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0afa1851113f28e5581f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b9a1778d25495386946","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q00810b250596428f0fd4","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":538,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-08T18:18:43.514Z","text":"原来的[删节：成员身份] 应该是在美国，现在使用这个账号的狗腿子跑去澳洲或者跟大陆一样的时区去了。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q3b0cfb3b5a29f5e2d197","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00810b250596428f0fd4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qedff6d780ef051844318","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":539,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-08T18:30:30.526Z","text":"我昨晚上就说过，他们俩是唱双簧、屏蔽新花样。说一些无厘头的话，让外面的人进来看不到什么有用的信息和思路，马上就会离开，就像以前的喜币交流群。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qddaf313daafc27d20212","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedff6d780ef051844318","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddaf313daafc27d20212","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qf7979b0745a4c8274959","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":540,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T18:49:21.985Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  好像那个dratel一直在扮猪吃老虎","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7979b0745a4c8274959","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q833d6a28afe97d51142a","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":541,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T18:51:45.133Z","text":"郭已经上诉了 好像全程没用你们的东西","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q833d6a28afe97d51142a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q4d02c6d5a04732d1aa96","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":542,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T18:52:02.379Z","text":"我们和郭本来就没有任何关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q833d6a28afe97d51142a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d02c6d5a04732d1aa96","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q833d6a28afe97d51142a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q6d16e6ef659d491ef3a2","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":543,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T18:52:08.060Z","text":"郭是一条线","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d16e6ef659d491ef3a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qfb09147d763dffd45976","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":544,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T18:52:09.176Z","text":"你们到最后会不会自我感动","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb09147d763dffd45976","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qa2584cfde52dc63cbf8f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":545,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T18:52:16.488Z","text":"我们是独立的十六条线","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2584cfde52dc63cbf8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q61e3d3b9f6e8a31c190c","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":546,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T18:52:23.687Z","text":"南区要面对的是17个上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61e3d3b9f6e8a31c190c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qbcd4a178c1c7545092b3","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":547,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T18:52:29.300Z","text":"会不会给他添乱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcd4a178c1c7545092b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q2d8a02c4d0f1ec0dc944","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":548,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T18:52:50.279Z","text":"如果添乱和我们无关","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbcd4a178c1c7545092b3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d8a02c4d0f1ec0dc944","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcd4a178c1c7545092b3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qfa75aec35cd91606af38","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":549,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T18:52:58.504Z","text":"既然好用 为什么不用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa75aec35cd91606af38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q40e381d20d786ffd90a7","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":550,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T18:53:05.786Z","text":"这都是自己决定 独立思考 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