{"id":"batch-000133","number":133,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-07-07T21:49:56.844Z","date_end":"2026-07-09T21:04:52.615Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 133 (Jul 7, 2026 – Jul 9, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Jul 7, 2026 through Jul 9, 2026, the thread debated the Torrez matter after the second circuit stage and possible next appellate moves. Participants argued that denials, vacate orders, administrative stays, and Notice of Appeal timing either signal routine procedure or a meaningful shift. They disputed whether the Ligon comparison and other narratives show a reversible pattern, and whether later judicial steps could still produce substantive change rather than just procedural delay. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Long-term disagreement on whether the process is meaningful or effectively over, with participants pressing both continued monitoring and no-substantive-value views","description":"Participants argued that the litigation had uncertain practical value, with some pressing for continued monitoring while others suggested the process had little substantive effect. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qd54af9b174bc435f7a14","q9b96f721203ddeb4f16b","q6d40f74bcdbbc8c0fc1f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd54af9b174bc435f7a14","summary_en":"A participant argued the reaction reflected judicial-bureaucratic instinct. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9b96f721203ddeb4f16b","summary_en":"A participant asked what purpose there was in continuing to pursue the issue. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6d40f74bcdbbc8c0fc1f","summary_en":"A participant contended there had been no targeted second-circuit action against the Southern District to date. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Split over whether ‘deny’ equates to mootness, with some insisting it can still mean review without intervention","description":"Participants contended that the legal wording was central: one camp emphasized post-sentencing context and ‘deny’ language, while another insisted that a denial does not automatically produce a merits ruling. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qab4a4a9df904863d4c6f","q02839347690a254eb286","q4544e73060dd061219f9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qab4a4a9df904863d4c6f","summary_en":"A participant pointed out that the order used ‘deny’ rather than ‘deny as moot.’ Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q02839347690a254eb286","summary_en":"A participant noted the order appeared to have been drafted after sentencing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4544e73060dd061219f9","summary_en":"A participant argued that ‘deny’ alone does not automatically mean a final merits determination. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Procedural sequencing became the core bargaining point as participants modeled denials, stays, vacates, and review triggers","description":"Participants disputed whether multiple procedural moments—denials, administrative stay, vacate, and later review timing—were meaningful turning points or simply part of a waiting strategy. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q6cbde712861c55af2d37","qb3704d988b815ed3b2dd","qfc1ac5e9d260e1dc766c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6cbde712861c55af2d37","summary_en":"A participant predicted that all six orders could be denied. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qb3704d988b815ed3b2dd","summary_en":"A participant contended that after sentencing, many motions drew no apparent response and suggested waiting for an opening. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfc1ac5e9d260e1dc766c","summary_en":"A participant identified administrative stay and vacate as recurring procedural stages. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Competing structural claims: system-level design versus individual judicial discretion and enforcement willingness","description":"Participants argued over where control lies, with one side attributing outcomes to baseline institutions and another side contesting that single-district discretion and compliance enforcement were decisive. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0290634a013e2f0ce1ed","q12ed019dcee64e7caea0","q4f73b36e5d83a0163dde"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0290634a013e2f0ce1ed","summary_en":"A participant argued that U.S. judicial architecture largely determines outcomes. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q12ed019dcee64e7caea0","summary_en":"A participant claimed the Southern District effectively controlled the process. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4f73b36e5d83a0163dde","summary_en":"A participant argued that a three-year detention showed the baseline system logic was not preventing perceived unfairness. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Disagreement on whether third-party submissions can shift the case, pitting ‘materials will be denied’ against ‘keep filing for the trigger point’","description":"Participants disputed whether third-party or supplemental submissions could materially change the matter, with some urging continuing filings while others expected repeated denials to show limited immediate impact. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qca65770d9df61e0adc29","q9f8289aaf387fecf76d4","q2dad2df1966c2aec124e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qca65770d9df61e0adc29","summary_en":"A participant argued that if all third-party materials were denied, those submissions likely carried little weight. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9f8289aaf387fecf76d4","summary_en":"A participant contended that observed actions looked like pre-set judicial logic operating within a familiar pattern. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2dad2df1966c2aec124e","summary_en":"A participant said the practical response was to keep sending materials to the second circuit. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence and narrative boundaries remained highly contested, including fraud framing, victim scope, source reliability, and Ligon references","description":"Participants argued that the core dispute was evidentiary framing, with competing claims about whether undermining the fraud narrative was prerequisite to any sentence relief and what the record actually established. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q1927ea4c02519a3344c2","q4175f2937aab06e48125","q27a5e0e095c3496c3a4a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1927ea4c02519a3344c2","summary_en":"A participant invoked the Ligon case as a reference point. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4175f2937aab06e48125","summary_en":"A participant argued that undoing a sentence required dismantling the fraud narrative first. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q27a5e0e095c3496c3a4a","summary_en":"A participant disputed that prosecution filings explicitly referenced Guo contacting the alliance. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Appeal-route dispute over whether CIPA, private-prosecution dynamics, 853n, and injunctions are procedural pressure only or actual reversal tools","description":"Participants argued about the potency of appellate and collateral mechanisms, with some claiming these tactics mainly create pressure while others framed private-prosecution dynamics as evidence of strategic channeling. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q5b97a181a46fb4226f87","q7e5a313963a1d469a4ea","q339afe6c7d906892a429"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5b97a181a46fb4226f87","summary_en":"A participant contended that with counsel involved, a third-party overturning of the case was unlikely and procedure would mostly be completed. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7e5a313963a1d469a4ea","summary_en":"A participant alleged one team was steering prosecution direction and using pressure tactics to control internal discussion. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q339afe6c7d906892a429","summary_en":"A participant asked what options remain if an injunction route is closed. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Property/penalty-track dispute around forfeiture, refunds, and bond resources versus the significance of 20- versus 30-year outcomes","description":"Participants disputed post-appeal goals, arguing over forfeiture and compensation tracks while questioning whether sentence reductions, if any, would meaningfully alter the overall outcome. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2828882b3b72eef51838","q35cfb2ab97a877aea21f","q0f148e99c280d4b85713"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2828882b3b72eef51838","summary_en":"A participant questioned what the reference to “724” implied for the individual. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q35cfb2ab97a877aea21f","summary_en":"A participant equated a concessionary gesture with capitulation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0f148e99c280d4b85713","summary_en":"A participant questioned whether the appeal effort was wasting time for Guo. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence circulation and group-relations conflict intensified as social posts, account behavior, and faction labels were treated as proof","description":"Participants argued that social-media traces and account behavior were being used as quasi-evidence, while others challenged motives, fueling trust and ethics concerns across subgroups. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3623e6b9204cfe7e40fa","q12a7e5502ee6ae2d044d","q4051a602c9e6e7a7d3c4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3623e6b9204cfe7e40fa","summary_en":"A participant argued a specific video post could be cited later despite a denial claim. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q12a7e5502ee6ae2d044d","summary_en":"A participant pointed to cross-platform account behavior as signaling coordinated positioning while avoiding full transparency. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4051a602c9e6e7a7d3c4","summary_en":"A participant used a loyalty/escort anecdote to cast doubt on participants’ stated motives and alignment. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Timeline expectations were split between near-term procedural movement and multi-year high-court resolution","description":"Participants disputed timeline forecasts: some focused on short-cycle filing mechanics, while others expected years before meaningful higher-level review and argued institutions may ignore momentum. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qae04544da0f852ce48c1","qa75ecf252840f1475aa5","q0012aa7c62bdee21b20a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qae04544da0f852ce48c1","summary_en":"A participant claimed appeal practice often runs to the 14-day deadline for filing notice. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa75ecf252840f1475aa5","summary_en":"A participant predicted appeals can take years to produce results. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0012aa7c62bdee21b20a","summary_en":"A participant contended that courts might ignore the side and leave self-styled heroes unchallenged in public framing. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论围绕托雷斯案件二巡与后续上诉路线展开，核心争点集中在“deny/moot”等程序含义、南区法官是否真的会触发实质审查，以及二巡与高院之间是否存在可扭转结局的关键窗口。多数观点认可程序节点（否决、vacate、强制令、Notice of Appeal、时间表）决定讨论节奏，但对其是否能形成“实质翻案”缺乏共识。除法律机制外，诈骗叙事、受害者金额与财产处理、证据链完整性被反复拉入推断；同时社媒与站队标签加剧了对证据可信度与动机的互疑。整体上，群体在制度理性与猜测式解释之间持续拉扯。","guide":[{"title":"“意义何在”与“是否终结”长期分歧，支持继续追踪与主张无实质价值的人同时存在","message_ids":["qd54af9b174bc435f7a14","q9b96f721203ddeb4f16b","q6d40f74bcdbbc8c0fc1f"]},{"title":"对“deny”是否等于实质否决、是否相当于moot解读分裂；部分人强调‘看过材料但暂不干预’","message_ids":["qab4a4a9df904863d4c6f","q02839347690a254eb286","q4544e73060dd061219f9"]},{"title":"程序时序成为博弈核心：二巡否决、administrative 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这个局终于大成！！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf0a13b83c731216e5cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q9aad00fb79ebb645110f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":604,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T19:31:30.009Z","text":"16强制令+老郭上诉 围剿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aad00fb79ebb645110f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q3ac20949021325a48fb1","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":605,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T19:31:40.745Z","text":"我不信托雷斯还能当法官","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ac20949021325a48fb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q92deeb38e5da6c9c9d8b","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":606,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T19:34:25.249Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/2074940108235780466?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92deeb38e5da6c9c9d8b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q00241fd925e4020f0b42","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":607,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T19:41:51.052Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/2074941960880812150?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00241fd925e4020f0b42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q15363ef284df96aabbf0","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":608,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T19:48:26.412Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 你们输给这样的对手 不冤","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9df566641e337defc51f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15363ef284df96aabbf0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qc366284b2faac9600fb1","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":609,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T19:57:25.701Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  [删节：隐私信息]  [删节：隐私信息] 凡是你们想在法律上对瑞恩指指点点 觉得你们多懂似的 先看看机器人的客观分析 再来发表观点","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9df566641e337defc51f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc366284b2faac9600fb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qafc3e6c97c391750815f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":610,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-08T20:02:40.226Z","text":"哈哈哈！16个勇士+郭本人痛打落水狗！托雷斯大法官我们这些小啰啰们向你宣战喽！\n过界的卒子♟️威力大，可以直接向大帅将军。\n鲤鱼跳龙门，俺向二巡、高法纸质递交了四次申请，最近一次被二巡接纳、立案了。俺就是其中的一员。\n感谢某大师、高人的指点。你懂的。\n桃子该是谁的就是谁的。抢也是徒劳。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a8e634240ff2dc0823f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafc3e6c97c391750815f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a8e634240ff2dc0823f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q7f6139b4b57fa9554ed3","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":611,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T20:04:57.933Z","text":"只要参与的都青史留名  包括按[删节：成员身份]这个垃圾","edited":true,"reply_to":"qafc3e6c97c391750815f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f6139b4b57fa9554ed3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafc3e6c97c391750815f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q57b65f1cdbbc2934bb1f","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":612,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T20:08:29.272Z","text":"没有螺丝哥 就没有今天这个大成局 就没有华人在美国司法的巅峰之作","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57b65f1cdbbc2934bb1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q45ed6e728dc040b438f4","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":613,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T20:09:01.838Z","text":"瑞恩并不是要给老郭翻案 瑞恩的最终目的 是把这个局做成","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45ed6e728dc040b438f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qeaea74ccf776f22d1c2c","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":614,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T20:11:28.950Z","text":"和我谈什么 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Judgment）\n口头辩论结束几个月后（紧急情况下可能会火速下达），合议庭会撰写正式的法律意见书。正如我们之前推演的，面对你们和德拉特尔联手设下的“二选一”死锁，二巡最体面、成本最低的解法就是：","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfee3d63c71c36a15ea7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qbe4b91c30638addd1dc9","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":737,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T23:08:05.842Z","text":"我们在律师提交主诉状前再集中攻一波撤案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfee3d63c71c36a15ea7c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe4b91c30638addd1dc9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfee3d63c71c36a15ea7c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q9b6f956dded1fe835235","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":738,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T23:08:46.293Z","text":"Ai吹牛逼的 说我自诉98％过 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而量刑后，我们甚至可以拖到今年11月","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q042c5b7a0d5945c88cb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qfd79d100d4a0b508441d","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":742,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T23:13:21.588Z","text":"口头辩论前","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd79d100d4a0b508441d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qa4b24c988582dcd535c0","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":743,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T23:13:52.315Z","text":"我就想知道一点 律师提交的东西 郭文贵看不看得见 如果看得见 也能保证提交的东西是郭文贵确认过的 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肯定能出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1ee618ab68ea284a7cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q641d2f7f450599da2bb6","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":745,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T23:14:17.189Z","text":"不用管看不看得见","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa4b24c988582dcd535c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q641d2f7f450599da2bb6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4b24c988582dcd535c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q8279078fe2fef76fd9f8","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":746,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T23:14:21.902Z","text":"郭文贵和我们毫无关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8279078fe2fef76fd9f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q8ade3e96ff6b7af7906a","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":747,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T23:15:03.432Z","text":"我知道 你们出不出名 和我们也没关系 我们投资者只关心他出不出得来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ade3e96ff6b7af7906a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qc61b782711a3d8cc9022","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":748,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T23:19:08.499Z","text":"郭如果靠自己出来了 你们以受害者的名义 可能会被喜国打成味蕾","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc61b782711a3d8cc9022","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q59966f9cfee6fec9ac18","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":749,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T23:20:02.811Z","text":"到时候直接去华尔街量子司法基金做首席诉讼战略了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc61b782711a3d8cc9022","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59966f9cfee6fec9ac18","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc61b782711a3d8cc9022","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qea931a4cebe8de155156","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":750,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T23:21:07.633Z","text":"他的目标和你不一样 他想在喜国出名 老郭提拔他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea931a4cebe8de155156","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qe45f8933c7b83251eb74","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":751,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T23:22:47.554Z","text":"郭总统肯定会把受害者都踢出去 还有那6000多个签字的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe45f8933c7b83251eb74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q0a2b5ce75e0dedd77b45","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":752,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-07-08T23:26:10.679Z","text":"郭文贵最喜欢你这样的，行不行啊？我不认识郭文贵，我与郭文贵也玩不到一起","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe45f8933c7b83251eb74","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a2b5ce75e0dedd77b45","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe45f8933c7b83251eb74","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q32e79827b2c43da20444","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":753,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T23:26:23.674Z","text":"你是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a2b5ce75e0dedd77b45","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32e79827b2c43da20444","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a2b5ce75e0dedd77b45","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q777a1ec8dc0d02dc8bc3","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":754,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T23:26:32.361Z","text":"你自己承认的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q777a1ec8dc0d02dc8bc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q77c69483ad895c20a4ec","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":755,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-08T23:26:33.191Z","text":"關於塗黑上傳問題，上次我打電話問過，二巡那邊原是要求你自己準備好一份正常的版本，另外準備好一份局部塗黑的版本給他們。我上次由於不知道及時間問題，所以他們就幫忙給塗黑了局部。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q95b1c89786a7f2f525f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77c69483ad895c20a4ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95b1c89786a7f2f525f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q2190d4267cb51b2a1624","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":756,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-08T23:27:32.117Z","text":"你也承认自己是受害者了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77c69483ad895c20a4ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2190d4267cb51b2a1624","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77c69483ad895c20a4ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qbe3fdf06545fed613955","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":757,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-08T23:30:43.915Z","text":"还等到11月？不是二巡DENY后马上高法吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q042c5b7a0d5945c88cb2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe3fdf06545fed613955","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q042c5b7a0d5945c88cb2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q7e7ce606d90f8b167772","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":758,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T23:31:32.967Z","text":"高法可以去 不影响","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbe3fdf06545fed613955","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e7ce606d90f8b167772","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe3fdf06545fed613955","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"q5b97a181a46fb4226f87","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":759,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T23:32:34.513Z","text":"律师现在进场 几乎不可能因为第三方推翻案件 二巡只可能配合律师把程序走完","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b97a181a46fb4226f87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qf1a7a249c0be84eb63b8","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":760,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T23:32:56.825Z","text":"但第三方要求推翻全案等","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1a7a249c0be84eb63b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000133"},{"id":"qfae2be13aeab1039f65c","batch_id":"batch-000133","seq":761,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-08T23:33:07.559Z","text":"必须上去 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