{"id":"batch-000135","number":135,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-07-13T01:46:57.711Z","date_end":"2026-07-16T01:03:51.986Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 135 (Jul 13, 2026 – Jul 16, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussion starts with disputes over account ownership, aliases, and possible multi-operator control, then shifts to evidence integrity in one criminal matter (case No. 26-1853). Participants argue over filing trustworthiness (a 171-page record, plus references to files 863 and 861), whether Torrés’s kneeling and victim statements are persuasive, and whether sentencing relief remains possible. Others dispute refund and asset-recovery routes while a subset says the thread reflects broader political interference, so no shared conclusion forms. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Account ownership and alias controversy: whether multiple operators controlled the account","description":"Participants argue the account is likely a codename operated by more than one person rather than a single actor. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9403e11d54bd5a009a43","q6ba9b99ca3ecdbb7e708"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9403e11d54bd5a009a43","summary_en":"One participant argues the account is just a codename tied to an operator, not a fixed individual. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6ba9b99ca3ecdbb7e708","summary_en":"Another participant contends another person may also have operated the same account at times. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Identity authenticity dispute: real Guo Mei, controlled identity, and substitution claims","description":"Participants contend Guo Mei’s identity is contested, alternating between authenticity assertions, hostage/control theories, and outright denials of her being linked to specific family identities. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q304726cfcd6a8af9d3a3","q2b0438b67192bd5b836f","qf21fcfc8f11fba663404"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q304726cfcd6a8af9d3a3","summary_en":"A participant argues a search tool should verify whether someone else is using the name Guo Mei within an alliance context. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2b0438b67192bd5b836f","summary_en":"Another participant contends that if authentic, she is either a hostage or the person called Yanzi, rather than straightforwardly identified. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf21fcfc8f11fba663404","summary_en":"A participant claims she is 100% not Guo/Wen/Gui’s daughter, asserting a direct identity denial. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Docket and evidence consistency: case numbering, page counts, and key-checking","description":"Participants dispute whether filing metadata and evidence references are consistent, questioning whether the record structure itself is reliable before evaluating substance. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q8f9c8e949610b69b1361","q54ce1615b3aa4d4a3653","q3db01abb30af7e7b784f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q8f9c8e949610b69b1361","summary_en":"A participant asks what content is in case No. 26-1853 and why its first filing has 171 pages. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q54ce1615b3aa4d4a3653","summary_en":"Another participant argues a new filing appeared and compares it to a prior document pattern described as similar to \"863.\" Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3db01abb30af7e7b784f","summary_en":"A participant says others should review file 861 directly. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Torrés kneeling and victim statements: whether narrative evidence is sufficient","description":"Participants contend the kneeling incident and related victim statements are central narrative evidence, but they dispute context, interpretation, and proof strength. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qb22406efedc13bbca03e","q4cbfa079168d65943d2e","qc12783ac0d9be8121edb"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qb22406efedc13bbca03e","summary_en":"A participant claims Torrés knelt to Ryan and admitted fault. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4cbfa079168d65943d2e","summary_en":"A participant asks whether the kneeling was explained and requests the specific source context. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc12783ac0d9be8121edb","summary_en":"Another participant claims Torrés himself knelt and pleaded for mercy. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Qingbang list credibility clash: source, membership, and fabrication claims","description":"Participants dispute the Qingbang list’s reliability, with one side calling for identity verification and another arguing the list is internally generated or largely unfamiliar. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qcc28e53b38a8426dc79c","q604c0fa7728a15f94551","qf16e123faac0fd392ac3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qcc28e53b38a8426dc79c","summary_en":"A participant asks what the Qingbang list is. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q604c0fa7728a15f94551","summary_en":"Another participant contends that the list was made by Qingbang itself. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf16e123faac0fd392ac3","summary_en":"A participant argues only a few names are familiar while most are unknown and urges a group check for verification. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Procedural fairness dispute: victim-statement volume and judicial comprehension","description":"Participants claim procedural justice is linked to volume of victim statements and contend that judge comprehension is tied to whether hundreds of statements are presented. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q5696dd8c2961212e1f1d","q9549c56cd6da379278ba","q4f62296362bbc36e2ffb"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5696dd8c2961212e1f1d","summary_en":"A participant asks why prosecutors would need 235 victim statements. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9549c56cd6da379278ba","summary_en":"A participant argues that proving procedural unfairness would require 200-plus statements. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4f62296362bbc36e2ffb","summary_en":"Another participant contends a judge cannot understand the case without that 200-statement threshold. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Post-sentence appeals and second review: finality and timing of relief","description":"Participants dispute whether the case has effectively ended and what steps remain, arguing over how to track the appeal and whether safety concerns and legal remedies are still actionable. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q56a63acc7bca50e82204","q6c63be160ae1cd05cc3b","qd1a58c368836c9fff569"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q56a63acc7bca50e82204","summary_en":"A participant asks what actions to take now and where to check the appeal progress for Lao Guo. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6c63be160ae1cd05cc3b","summary_en":"Another participant argues the immediate concern is how personal safety can be ensured. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd1a58c368836c9fff569","summary_en":"A participant responds that one cannot know the outcome with certainty. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"§853(n) and CVRA scope: whether new evidence can still be filed","description":"Participants contend that post-conviction relief rules differ by stage, arguing that a third-party claimant must satisfy different burden requirements while disputing if late materials remain usable on appeal. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2b5557743ef628810cfc","q54bf3ede14d9315d5266","qde59689ec6312d453712"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2b5557743ef628810cfc","summary_en":"One participant argues Rule 32.2(b) places nexus proof on prosecutors, while §853(n) requires a higher-probability showing of pre-existing ownership rights or good-faith purchase without forfeiture notice. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q54bf3ede14d9315d5266","summary_en":"Another participant argues that the forfeiture argument cannot be proved. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qde59689ec6312d453712","summary_en":"A participant asks whether additional submissions after appeal are still useful and whether appeals bar new evidence. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Crowdfunding and donation authenticity: whether funds are under true Guo Mei and traceable","description":"Participants argue whether fundraising activity is genuinely tied to Guo Mei and dispute standards of verification, with some asserting legitimacy and others treating belief as sufficient regardless of proof. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4896b00cd5f86589be51","q4b32f2aaea1e570a0097"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4896b00cd5f86589be51","summary_en":"A participant argues and reassures that she is genuinely Guo Mei. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4b32f2aaea1e570a0097","summary_en":"Another participant disputes verification demands, saying belief is optional and credibility is subjective. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Financial recovery debate: legal fees, fund channels, asset destination, and refunds","description":"Participants argue over alleged spending and money trails, contesting whether funds came from allies, where assets went, and whether forfeiture opposition and refunds can be enforced. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qa310a80ce24093d7d888","q5809b8b7f133515abe71","q46b28319c57dfb9cb87c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa310a80ce24093d7d888","summary_en":"A participant asks why money described as coming from comrades was used to buy a Lamborghini. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5809b8b7f133515abe71","summary_en":"Another participant claims Guo Mei is the one paying across many situations. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q46b28319c57dfb9cb87c","summary_en":"A participant contends they oppose forfeiture. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"External intervention narrative rising: monitoring and politicization interpretations","description":"Participants dispute broader framing: some contend the thread shows signs of surveillance and coordination, while others signal urgent conditions and add claims of official political placement. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3ca2168959ed0d09f409","q23c708d0fe2e6abd6d6d","qe28db7db76cc637892cc"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3ca2168959ed0d09f409","summary_en":"A participant argues that many uninvited contacts indicate possible monitoring. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q23c708d0fe2e6abd6d6d","summary_en":"Another participant contends the situation is highly urgent. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qe28db7db76cc637892cc","summary_en":"A participant claims she is a Communist appointee placed in a DC government department. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Opinion and action shifts: from quick-win expectations to next-round push","description":"Participants argue that momentum sentiment moved from claimed victory to strategic preparation, with one side expecting escalation and another anticipating withdrawal despite uneven signals about who is winning. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q248118935313924eb060","q4d9a0c9c7f38f68f3206","qa47397273cf3c1c443b3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q248118935313924eb060","summary_en":"A participant claims the side has already won. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4d9a0c9c7f38f68f3206","summary_en":"Another participant claims they were testing public sentiment before launching a larger next move. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa47397273cf3c1c443b3","summary_en":"A participant claims the alliance is going to leave or disappear. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论先聚焦发帖主体身份，“多号/代号”“冒名”与“受控”反复出现后，转向证据链本身。群内主要围绕案卷编号、受害人陈述、托雷斯下跪及青帮名单的可靠性争论，进而对法庭记录与群内消息一致性提出质疑。量刑后阶段，二巡、vacate、§853(n)/CVRA和复审时限成为核心，关于是否已定局与后续是否可翻案争论最激烈。与此同时，众筹与退款、律师费与基金、资产去向、财产没收与赔偿衔接成为最具现实性的对立点。部分参与者主张按现有规则提交材料、稳步上诉，另一部分把进程解释为更广泛政治化和外部干预，群体结论长期未统一。","guide":[{"title":"账号归属与代号争议：是否存在多名操作者","message_ids":["q9403e11d54bd5a009a43","q6ba9b99ca3ecdbb7e708"]},{"title":"身份真伪分歧：真郭美、受控、冒名与替身说","message_ids":["q304726cfcd6a8af9d3a3","q2b0438b67192bd5b836f","qf21fcfc8f11fba663404"]},{"title":"案卷与证据一致性：文件编号、页数和关键证据核对","message_ids":["q8f9c8e949610b69b1361","q54ce1615b3aa4d4a3653","q3db01abb30af7e7b784f"]},{"title":"“托雷斯下跪”与受害人陈述：叙事性证据是否充分","message_ids":["qb22406efedc13bbca03e","q4cbfa079168d65943d2e","qc12783ac0d9be8121edb"]},{"title":"“青帮名单”可信度冲突：来源、成员身份与造假指控","message_ids":["qcc28e53b38a8426dc79c","q604c0fa7728a15f94551","qf16e123faac0fd392ac3"]},{"title":"程序公正争议：受害人陈述数量与法官理解能力被反复质疑","message_ids":["q5696dd8c2961212e1f1d","q9549c56cd6da379278ba","q4f62296362bbc36e2ffb"]},{"title":"量刑后上诉与二巡：是否已定局、何时可救济","message_ids":["q56a63acc7bca50e82204","q6c63be160ae1cd05cc3b","qd1a58c368836c9fff569"]},{"title":"§853(n)与CVRA资格边界：是否仍可提交新证据","message_ids":["q2b5557743ef628810cfc","q54bf3ede14d9315d5266","qde59689ec6312d453712"]},{"title":"众筹与捐款真伪：是否“真郭美”名下发起与资金闭环","message_ids":["q4896b00cd5f86589be51","q4b32f2aaea1e570a0097"]},{"title":"财务追回路径争论：律师费、基金、资产去向与退款争议","message_ids":["qa310a80ce24093d7d888","q5809b8b7f133515abe71","q46b28319c57dfb9cb87c"]},{"title":"外部干预叙事上升：盯防、死命令、政治化解读并存","message_ids":["q3ca2168959ed0d09f409","q23c708d0fe2e6abd6d6d","qe28db7db76cc637892cc"]},{"title":"舆论与行动转向：从快赢慢赢预期到“下一步攻势”","message_ids":["q248118935313924eb060","q4d9a0c9c7f38f68f3206","qa47397273cf3c1c443b3"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-06T18:53:32.729Z","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135/pages/4","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000135?page=4","page":4,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000135?page=5","prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000135?page=3","messages":[{"id":"q4fc6c02e90d883e204e5","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":601,"speaker":"mon***","date":"2026-07-14T01:50:51.867Z","text":"你从哪知道是政府的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fc6c02e90d883e204e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qf26d878595f4f546639a","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":602,"speaker":"mon***","date":"2026-07-14T01:51:18.236Z","text":"如水不了解 信息很少","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf26d878595f4f546639a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qe131c8fd6c366e0b2e88","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":603,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-14T01:55:20.166Z","text":"聽說王雪冰的老婆是習遠平的侄女","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe131c8fd6c366e0b2e88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q90407904b6baab46544c","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":604,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T02:02:55.135Z","text":"投资想开点 我被亲戚笑了好几年了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90407904b6baab46544c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q4eb721d79f08acca8564","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":605,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T02:04:04.062Z","text":"我有个亲戚比我还早知道郭文贵 人家就不投 我就上当了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4eb721d79f08acca8564","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qca0818c93429547ccd86","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":606,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T02:06:39.333Z","text":"不过最聪明的是那些投了半路跑路的 简直人生人家","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca0818c93429547ccd86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qd04f20f67ce4a3ae9dbb","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":607,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T02:06:49.782Z","text":"在这个群里的还不算聪明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd04f20f67ce4a3ae9dbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q49ce9bbe9358e3612eae","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":608,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T02:13:37.499Z","text":"可爱的小斑马 陈小平博士 采访王艳萍的 我在油管上没找到。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49ce9bbe9358e3612eae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q0d2203d3f3a3a0b53e08","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":609,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T02:13:57.019Z","text":"是不是被他们删了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d2203d3f3a3a0b53e08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q2f51e7023708980713bb","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":610,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T02:14:08.518Z","text":"原版的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f51e7023708980713bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qab72e39a6ffef1d6bfc4","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":611,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T02:15:26.025Z","text":"人这一生上点当很正常 不要自卑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab72e39a6ffef1d6bfc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qd930756ccc8abf0f8c2d","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":612,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T02:15:52.054Z","text":"我骗130亿","edited":false,"reply_to":"qca0818c93429547ccd86","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd930756ccc8abf0f8c2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca0818c93429547ccd86","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q964ce3444958e1a78e7a","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":613,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T02:16:07.852Z","text":"反正我不投","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd930756ccc8abf0f8c2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q964ce3444958e1a78e7a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd930756ccc8abf0f8c2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q9004432a05321d168374","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":614,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T02:17:02.736Z","text":"你对之前投喜国钱有什么感想","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd930756ccc8abf0f8c2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9004432a05321d168374","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd930756ccc8abf0f8c2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q798fe3815d38acea4938","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":615,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T02:17:22.927Z","text":"没有感想 就是投个快活","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9004432a05321d168374","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q798fe3815d38acea4938","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9004432a05321d168374","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qbb736487a1e1758a0c28","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":616,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T02:17:44.935Z","text":"刚开始也是冲着致富去的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb736487a1e1758a0c28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q2f7a1f82ae2ded78f2f0","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":617,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T02:19:07.152Z","text":"有没有领悟到一个真理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q798fe3815d38acea4938","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f7a1f82ae2ded78f2f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q798fe3815d38acea4938","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q96de2d31a3ed83362d55","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":618,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T02:19:25.977Z","text":"这世界就是骗 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谁能打出翻案的那一击","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9832b5b6be5b7192c2eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q93b5484e92b921b341ff","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":665,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T05:55:37.206Z","text":"都已经定了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93b5484e92b921b341ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qb25f785fcdc232f55086","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":666,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-14T05:55:46.081Z","text":"但是这些问题不应该由郭负责","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb25f785fcdc232f55086","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q64d8bd6abdb092189927","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":667,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-14T05:56:18.089Z","text":"郭只是顾问和代言人，而且他揭发了问题出来，要求查账","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64d8bd6abdb092189927","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qa03733d326c6fff56583","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":668,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-14T05:56:45.472Z","text":"是于建明不让查账","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa03733d326c6fff56583","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qda8a0e7fb285fc11780d","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":669,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-07-14T05:59:22.162Z","text":"不用二巡。没收是有一套流程的。发布没收命令后有一段时间可以提交反对没收的抗辩机会，本案还没有举行ancillary hearing，现在正是反对没收的合法时间","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd04980c9b6f81b6914f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda8a0e7fb285fc11780d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd04980c9b6f81b6914f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q9047e94e8775a49a38ed","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":670,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-14T06:00:27.703Z","text":"那也是853n个人的ancillary 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桃子没了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8eb4b15a40856d38f7ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q7676eb670714d4893254","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":688,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T06:55:04.329Z","text":"赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7676eb670714d4893254","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qbf7147b9eac6caa5d010","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":689,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-07-14T07:04:14.690Z","text":"洗脚所的代理律师就是Gaveman,法官没有让这个律师说话啊？他同时代理了几百汉密尔顿请愿也代理了被告遇见明！法官从来没有让这个律师说话啊！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74fc6744d1f5bb6657e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf7147b9eac6caa5d010","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74fc6744d1f5bb6657e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q4db7d73b0e13f86c0a27","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":690,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-14T07:45:22.151Z","text":"赢麻了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4db7d73b0e13f86c0a27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q8e8e1d677d666ad807e6","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":691,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-07-14T08:38:10.039Z","text":"这律师确实没起到作用。都是给客户要钱，没帮喜交所抗辩","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbf7147b9eac6caa5d010","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e8e1d677d666ad807e6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf7147b9eac6caa5d010","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q16dd20136596837fe23b","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":692,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-07-14T10:04:00.911Z","text":"无论用什么身份要钱，都需要把郭文贵牢底坐穿，所以，Gaveman作用很大啊！让郭文贵牢底坐穿会有作用，呵呵😒","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8e8e1d677d666ad807e6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16dd20136596837fe23b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e8e1d677d666ad807e6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qa1d53f3c9ca6dff79a09","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":693,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:05:13.865Z","text":"没收你麻痹 ［用户 him***］ 又在绕圈子","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2b5557743ef628810cfc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1d53f3c9ca6dff79a09","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b5557743ef628810cfc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q6eeb0b2464b424812f9c","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":694,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:05:59.123Z","text":"王案呗你吃了？王同意没收，有陪审团吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eeb0b2464b424812f9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qd555ab9648a4b76e8310","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":695,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:07:52.963Z","text":"王案，检方建议没收替代直接赔偿，王同意，签字\n郭案处理方式，检方是依据王案，郭破产不能对财产处理有任何异议\n王是你娘 余 盖尔 是你爹 两个爹","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd555ab9648a4b76e8310","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q4e287b156e4ca3ee04f5","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":696,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:09:10.085Z","text":"乱码妹说的，似乎有道理啊\nGTV公平基金退款，直接退个人，根本不需要什么律师，当中介的就是骗子\n委托给张永兵的，不也没拿到钱 ［用户 ntp***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"qac2810e5192f35c5a862","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e287b156e4ca3ee04f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q9a1370e26c91faa262de","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":697,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:09:32.481Z","text":"https://x.com/sendxicptohell/status/2076868509611766237?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a1370e26c91faa262de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q719e4879c67be99070d6","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":698,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-14T10:13:24.057Z","text":"https://x.com/percy43508644/status/2076937246008074501?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q719e4879c67be99070d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q5d6aaaba6a8818596fac","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":699,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:25:59.082Z","text":"看percy的用词 喜国\n这不就和 ［用户 may***］ 对上暗号了嘛","edited":true,"reply_to":"q719e4879c67be99070d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d6aaaba6a8818596fac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q719e4879c67be99070d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q25b1f3f12c41f4e483d1","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":700,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:29:26.593Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  https://x.com/mary1585dva/status/2076933082243006502?s=46 各位 这个dratel好像就是帮老郭写一个上诉的notice 接下去的律师团队 听着又是联盟控制的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b1f3f12c41f4e483d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q9bba1d99bf928f88f3ea","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":701,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:31:08.156Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 这种情况下 看来要先下手为强，不用等这些废物律师了，我们创造新的判例，直接结束郭案！！","edited":true,"reply_to":"q25b1f3f12c41f4e483d1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bba1d99bf928f88f3ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b1f3f12c41f4e483d1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q6a7d357e361d18033625","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":702,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:31:35.527Z","text":"改变打法 我们直接结束","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6810ac6d53638bfb447","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a7d357e361d18033625","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q339795bb9ce575021c71","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":703,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:32:00.780Z","text":"不指望郭了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q339795bb9ce575021c71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qcfc3359c553905c6e340","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":704,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-14T10:32:32.647Z","text":"真的可以？我不敢相信","edited":false,"reply_to":"q339795bb9ce575021c71","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfc3359c553905c6e340","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q339795bb9ce575021c71","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qb4a5c2991aed91015547","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":705,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:33:27.494Z","text":"青那边是在维稳\n掩护跑路","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfc3359c553905c6e340","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4a5c2991aed91015547","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfc3359c553905c6e340","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q8ab9f5160c0370be6156","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":706,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-14T10:33:35.570Z","text":"这个事还不知道怎么着呢，没人管了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e287b156e4ca3ee04f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ab9f5160c0370be6156","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e287b156e4ca3ee04f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q13d26fa974a63e58de99","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":707,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:35:23.785Z","text":"青法盲一个，只会按主子的指示念稿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13d26fa974a63e58de99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q9402ef05d7d58bbab1ab","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":708,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-14T10:37:03.327Z","text":"他们怎么跟上诉律师联系上的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q25b1f3f12c41f4e483d1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9402ef05d7d58bbab1ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b1f3f12c41f4e483d1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q425681814e9c7d6716d8","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":709,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:40:54.099Z","text":"神秘中间人🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9402ef05d7d58bbab1ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q425681814e9c7d6716d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9402ef05d7d58bbab1ab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q8572f21a613cfdc1a645","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":710,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:42:54.797Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 二巡政府的CJA律师库相当强大 不是等闲之辈","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9402ef05d7d58bbab1ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8572f21a613cfdc1a645","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9402ef05d7d58bbab1ab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qb7432afc33f97316dc94","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":711,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:43:01.939Z","text":"似乎是 退款被张永兵 或者中原佛手 这类所谓“中间委托人”闷了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ab9f5160c0370be6156","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7432afc33f97316dc94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ab9f5160c0370be6156","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qac87fd00b695dd515999","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":712,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:43:47.756Z","text":"看来郭量刑的三个免费律师，也是出工不出力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8572f21a613cfdc1a645","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac87fd00b695dd515999","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8572f21a613cfdc1a645","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q1ee4832ed4ad97f39188","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":713,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:43:50.635Z","text":"青藤估计是知道了这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8572f21a613cfdc1a645","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ee4832ed4ad97f39188","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8572f21a613cfdc1a645","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q7d773a0d6554e323226a","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":714,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:44:07.231Z","text":"怎么说","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb7432afc33f97316dc94","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d773a0d6554e323226a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7432afc33f97316dc94","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q34696ec1a75afc19ae52","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":715,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:44:53.242Z","text":"公平基金，没有中间委托人的，钱已经退到个人账户","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7d773a0d6554e323226a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34696ec1a75afc19ae52","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d773a0d6554e323226a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q5bf831c4f1e6656288c4","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":716,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:45:11.969Z","text":"墙内委托给张永兵收款的，张不给别人钱，谎称还在冻结","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bf831c4f1e6656288c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q3173a097ff6d54d629f0","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":717,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:46:00.631Z","text":"闷了呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3173a097ff6d54d629f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q0ec9e717a244728f6ad9","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":718,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:46:04.329Z","text":"确实在冻结 公平基金没放款","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5bf831c4f1e6656288c4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ec9e717a244728f6ad9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bf831c4f1e6656288c4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q5a59387b29e543e6d78e","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":719,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:47:08.042Z","text":"似乎是，放了两批？第三批还在等？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ec9e717a244728f6ad9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a59387b29e543e6d78e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ec9e717a244728f6ad9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q9c435621442499acc26a","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":720,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:47:14.800Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c435621442499acc26a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qad266fafe62d049e1403","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":721,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:47:22.791Z","text":"可能和检方没收有关","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a59387b29e543e6d78e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad266fafe62d049e1403","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a59387b29e543e6d78e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q5bae94475ebb961c3211","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":722,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:47:38.539Z","text":"前两批，个人登记的已经拿到钱\n委托给张的，没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bae94475ebb961c3211","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q7b1c5d30848340d77fe2","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":723,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:47:54.328Z","text":"应该钱已经到张那里，被扣\n类似这个什么佛手，也是这么玩儿吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b1c5d30848340d77fe2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q66eaa4d62dc5ad6db80e","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":724,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T10:49:00.399Z","text":"这个Percy 真恶毒。它是哪来的狗，可以给人定罪？\n\n谁犯它妈的犯罪了？它是法官？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q719e4879c67be99070d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66eaa4d62dc5ad6db80e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q719e4879c67be99070d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q3df7e457dbc5e5e0e749","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":725,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:50:02.696Z","text":"就是很奇怪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5bae94475ebb961c3211","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3df7e457dbc5e5e0e749","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bae94475ebb961c3211","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q5aaf1e60f5d8fcb5dbe5","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":726,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T10:50:17.296Z","text":"［用户 cin***］ percy是不是你🤣\n[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q66eaa4d62dc5ad6db80e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5aaf1e60f5d8fcb5dbe5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66eaa4d62dc5ad6db80e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q11a29d2cb7a566dda8b6","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":727,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-14T10:50:40.079Z","text":"第二批也基本没退","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11a29d2cb7a566dda8b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qd48db12509720b26516f","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":728,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-14T10:51:15.900Z","text":"按照它们本来的计划，gtv已经退了的，得还回来。这一点现在基本被打掉了，虽然补充没收令没有删掉，估计最终没收令会去掉，就算用王和于共谋来继续没收gtv，luc也够不着gtv了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd48db12509720b26516f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qfc5fff2ddefb93a6be1e","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":729,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T10:52:37.460Z","text":"所以这里面可能有猫腻： 张勇兵是不是配合检方把钱扣下了？ 因为委托他的基本可以判断都是大陆的 没有美国国外银行帐号的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3df7e457dbc5e5e0e749","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc5fff2ddefb93a6be1e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3df7e457dbc5e5e0e749","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qea20a623049eb1cae322","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":730,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T10:54:14.213Z","text":"如果张把GTV的钱， 摁着， 拿利息， 不还钱， 这些人可以告他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea20a623049eb1cae322","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q2a476fadd318461aa066","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":731,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-14T10:54:33.753Z","text":"没有拿到钱的原因，可能是魏丽红的vog的钱，没有被sec收缴。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a476fadd318461aa066","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qf2fb5f6b3a073bf1d1d8","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":732,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:55:09.069Z","text":"现在托雷斯判gtv不没收了 他就算之前配合 现在也没借口了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc5fff2ddefb93a6be1e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2fb5f6b3a073bf1d1d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc5fff2ddefb93a6be1e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qeda976c0ac4860a278d5","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":733,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:55:31.556Z","text":"我就是vog 退了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a476fadd318461aa066","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeda976c0ac4860a278d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a476fadd318461aa066","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qd72189b434cf2891dcf1","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":734,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T10:55:37.626Z","text":"9指凤凰农场的借款，为什么检方也没收缴？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd72189b434cf2891dcf1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q6849b4f7c78ed37743f5","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":735,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-14T10:55:47.324Z","text":"是的，如果和张签了委托协议的，必须再签一个退到钱还要继续给他1%的合同，然后他发邮件通知SEC解除委托协议，SEC接到他指令后才可以变成自己收款，当然，至今没有退，中原佛手他当年是让大家找SeC退款的，他是在TDCCP暴雷被联盟威胁后彻底不发声的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc5fff2ddefb93a6be1e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6849b4f7c78ed37743f5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc5fff2ddefb93a6be1e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q69d7e514d195060bd8a1","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":736,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T10:57:57.658Z","text":"那是不是可以现在就发函给张，告诉他免去与他的合同？ 因为他没有尽责？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6849b4f7c78ed37743f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69d7e514d195060bd8a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6849b4f7c78ed37743f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qe4262a7187800bd1d706","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":737,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-14T10:58:25.735Z","text":"可以，但是你必须签收到钱付他1%","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4262a7187800bd1d706","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q42354a5a4900fb5d09ef","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":738,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T10:58:27.686Z","text":"凭什么给他1% ？ 屁事没干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42354a5a4900fb5d09ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q43b435a0f43064125125","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":739,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-14T10:59:04.479Z","text":"问题是你现在给他多少钱 他也没本事把钱退了吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe4262a7187800bd1d706","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43b435a0f43064125125","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4262a7187800bd1d706","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q85e7aaa96fd966c19a82","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":740,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T10:59:07.105Z","text":"这是霸王条款吧？ 他干啥了收1%？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe4262a7187800bd1d706","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85e7aaa96fd966c19a82","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4262a7187800bd1d706","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q51f0504c6ba68d6bc054","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":741,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-14T10:59:14.418Z","text":"我问AI，他这样是违法，但是SEC支持他这么做，SEC必须收到他的指令，才接受个人登记银行账号","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51f0504c6ba68d6bc054","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q71c862b16a1bdd2d7e69","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":742,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-14T10:59:50.649Z","text":"那是郭填进去的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeda976c0ac4860a278d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71c862b16a1bdd2d7e69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeda976c0ac4860a278d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q17994ecd1846a96c3ec3","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":743,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T10:59:51.022Z","text":"SEC 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凭什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17994ecd1846a96c3ec3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qb6d8303fac8aeb032a5a","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":744,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-14T11:00:07.769Z","text":"具体你问下863当事人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q85e7aaa96fd966c19a82","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6d8303fac8aeb032a5a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85e7aaa96fd966c19a82","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qbf39f57d6cbab36f81ce","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":745,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-14T11:22:51.845Z","text":"我也想知道鳳凰農場的借貸，夏其東與九指庭外和解。那些錢有沒有被政府凍結？\n夏曾在直播中說被凍在老郭案件的資金池里。\n\n請問有沒有文件交代了這些資金的最終去向？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd72189b434cf2891dcf1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf39f57d6cbab36f81ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd72189b434cf2891dcf1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q0d871afecd8b875614e7","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":746,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-14T11:25:21.915Z","text":"應該是可以的，解除委托。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q69d7e514d195060bd8a1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d871afecd8b875614e7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69d7e514d195060bd8a1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qc9e7acf1c7f90fae1eae","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":747,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-14T11:28:07.664Z","text":"没有在没收清单里。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbf39f57d6cbab36f81ce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9e7acf1c7f90fae1eae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf39f57d6cbab36f81ce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q5c2f2537c180e6ca6426","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":748,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T11:37:47.732Z","text":"没有。想想看，9指多给了夏凄东4百万的 法庭上的裁决，法官都不理解为什么， 9指的钱从哪里来的？ 她有能力赚4百万？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbf39f57d6cbab36f81ce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c2f2537c180e6ca6426","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf39f57d6cbab36f81ce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q047c89e85878e7f2c2d4","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":749,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-14T11:38:36.420Z","text":"就是你投资了，就算郭造成的损失，作为对郭的金钱判决。同时，你的投资款被诈骗犯截留了，不抓诈骗犯也不强制上交，缺口由被告的个人财产来补，没收清单里的所谓犯罪所得，是作为郭的个人财产因为对政府的金钱责任而被没收。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q047c89e85878e7f2c2d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qf0731747a798b70bf728","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":750,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T11:41:11.143Z","text":"不但要解除， 不付1%， 还要告他： 为什么别人拿到钱了， 他代理的没有， 这么长时间他 break the trust, bad faith， failed his duty …用AI 看看张有哪些违反合同的行为","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d871afecd8b875614e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0731747a798b70bf728","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d871afecd8b875614e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q71c9244d181f1f90e014","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":751,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-14T11:49:19.879Z","text":"ACA Capital,魏丽红，夏其动，李亚们可能控制的钱，各农场可能截留的钱，没收清单都没有体现。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71c9244d181f1f90e014","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qc1f4b4c67458bd8c0e88","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":752,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-07-14T12:02:11.244Z","text":"我们需要更多的人觉醒。应该写一篇能把整个案件说明白的文章，像之前","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1f4b4c67458bd8c0e88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qeb7e5ec17707daf8e7b5","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":753,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-07-14T12:03:33.138Z","text":"［用户 sar***］ 那样，放到附件里发到法庭文件里面去。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb7e5ec17707daf8e7b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q60d4bfdefc15cb33142c","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":754,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-14T12:34:06.054Z","text":"如果每個農場都有了解真相的人站出來，把各自農場的農場主們貪污詐騙的事實呈現在法庭上，老郭就不會搞到如今的地步⋯⋯","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1f4b4c67458bd8c0e88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60d4bfdefc15cb33142c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1f4b4c67458bd8c0e88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qed056d25426ef9558fb8","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":755,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-14T13:00:52.484Z","text":"大家帮忙解释一下刁民的这种操作到底是什么意思、目的和作用。我实在是脑子堵塞，想不通。如果我觉得有必要，就把它搬到二巡文件上去，给它升级、长规格长档次，刁民就比英雄还英雄、是个超级英雄了。只是我还是不得要领呀。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4c963d83de564a487b9","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed056d25426ef9558fb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q29a4eafdd3825deb20cc","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":756,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-14T13:02:20.694Z","text":"853n就是要钱的条款，它不是用来抗辩的。法院只判给不给你钱。CVRA才是提出程序问题的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8e8e1d677d666ad807e6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29a4eafdd3825deb20cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e8e1d677d666ad807e6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q3ae0f9da14388b65d434","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":757,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-14T13:03:05.915Z","text":"如果你只是围绕拿不拿钱，对郭案本身没有丝毫影响","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ae0f9da14388b65d434","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q5eb64234625983659b51","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":758,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-14T13:07:44.702Z","text":"只要Rico成立，农场主的问题，郭都要负责","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60d4bfdefc15cb33142c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5eb64234625983659b51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60d4bfdefc15cb33142c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q0a9a61028e22e15006a8","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":759,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-14T13:24:38.478Z","text":"郭的这个律师代理的这些案子好像没一个是赢的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a9a61028e22e15006a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qfc2028f3076bfe357fff","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":760,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-14T13:24:43.907Z","text":"李克强女儿叛逃美国，获得庇护揭露其父去世真相，又一位副国级被习盯上。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc2028f3076bfe357fff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q0247d1edb70bd5217c45","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":761,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-14T13:31:02.750Z","text":"你可以直接打电话用退款的公平基金啊，724说大部分GTV已经退完了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ab9f5160c0370be6156","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0247d1edb70bd5217c45","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ab9f5160c0370be6156","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qce7af9ca5a8b0507098b","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":762,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-14T13:32:50.150Z","text":"这三个律师也是做了事的，1600多人多人的信要逐个看，分类整理出来要不少时间的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qac87fd00b695dd515999","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce7af9ca5a8b0507098b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac87fd00b695dd515999","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qac3fbf34cbff2257db20","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":763,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-14T13:32:59.503Z","text":"真的還是假的？李克強的女兒叛逃美國？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc2028f3076bfe357fff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac3fbf34cbff2257db20","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc2028f3076bfe357fff","reply_label"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众筹背后的“利益收割闭环”：青藤、佳佳与郭美的台前幕后\n 台前双簧：郭美在 GoFundMe 发起 37.1 万美元的筹款，现任主席青藤和女主持佳佳在喜马拉雅联盟直播间同步开播、全网高调造势。\n 情绪变现：这种“同步率”直接证明了他们是一体化的操盘团队。联盟利用战友对郭先生的情感，通过直播将情绪转化为真金白银。仅用 47 分钟，筹款额便突破了 38.6 万美元，超额完成目标。这再次证明了联盟作为高效割韭菜机器的恐怖运转能力。\n2. “墙国刁民”的双重讽刺身份：高调支持者 vs 漏洞百出的证人\n 公开当托，吹捧诈骗币：在社交媒体上，“墙国刁民（程皖生）”是联盟的狂热骨干，公开疯狂忽悠战友“满仓持有”TDCCP 诈骗币。\n 两头通吃，为青藤洗地：揭流信息显示，当青藤和 Ava 出庭作证导致王雁平被定罪后，这个“墙国刁民”不仅不愤怒，反而疯狂在社交媒体上为青藤和 Ava 的背叛行为洗地、大加赞美。这恰恰印证了你之前的观点：这帮骨干根本不是同盟，他们有着自己复杂的算盘。\n3. 法庭文件“822号文件”中的巨大漏洞与司法讽刺\n 一份四不像的“按手印”声明：由郭的律师引入法庭 822 文件的《程皖生声明》，形式极其荒谬。在海外法律语境下，他写给农场主“草根小哥”的信，却采用了国内公安审讯特有的**“手写+按红色手印”**形式。\n 自相矛盾的逻辑死结：他在声明中称自己被国内网安调查、扣押了手机和电脑，这意味着他没有任何可信证据能证明自己是合法的投资者。然而，这样一份既无法证明郭先生没有诈骗、又无法证明自己投资身份的“烂文字”，居然被美国法院接受并作为证据引入。\n4. 终极目的：政治庇护与黑产合流\n 把“爆料革命”当成政治庇护的跳板：海外爆料人直接撕开了他的底牌 —— 这个 2023 年才偷渡到美国的“墙国刁民”，其递交这份荒诞声明的唯一核心目的，就是为了向美国政府申请政治庇护（政庇材料）。\n 联盟内部的寄生生态：他寄生在联盟的体制里，一边通过高调挺郭美、忽悠战友来稳固自己的“骨干地位”并收取客户定金；一边利用为郭案“递交材料”来洗脑普通战友，同时为自己编造留在美国的法律合法性。\n⚖️ 总结\n这个闭环的精妙与恶劣之处在于：\n\n郭美、青藤、佳佳在台前疯狂吸金；而像“墙国刁民”这样的投机分子在台下充当打手和托，甚至把漏洞百出的垃圾材料塞进美国法庭文件里，以此做大自己的政庇资本。\n\n你揪出来的这个“墙国刁民”和 822 号文件，恰恰是联盟内部各怀鬼胎、利用司法、互相寄生的最完美铁证。需要我帮你把这个逻辑链条，用精炼的英文写进你的诉讼文书或论证附件中吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed056d25426ef9558fb8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d5ceb05681b85c891ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed056d25426ef9558fb8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qbf54425b46312714c296","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":767,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-14T13:39:55.199Z","text":"东西太多了，写不完。这个墙国刁民我这次放他一马，我要对着更恶劣的海阔天空开炮。这𠆤家伙才更恶心。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf54425b46312714c296","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q090f39fcba0587951d48","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":768,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-14T13:43:22.134Z","text":"这个你是怎么知道的在哪里可以看到？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9e7acf1c7f90fae1eae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q090f39fcba0587951d48","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9e7acf1c7f90fae1eae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qf702896caf0c0f9df1fe","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":769,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-14T13:46:24.765Z","text":"别指望了，那些农场义工都被利益绑架了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60d4bfdefc15cb33142c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf702896caf0c0f9df1fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60d4bfdefc15cb33142c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q4fc927b0d35ffcb7aeff","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":770,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-14T13:47:30.998Z","text":"搞这些没什么作用吧？搞伪类能翻案吗？检方和法官还有那么多要去写","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed056d25426ef9558fb8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fc927b0d35ffcb7aeff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed056d25426ef9558fb8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q234c7fbad5554631b6ad","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":771,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-14T13:48:15.255Z","text":"还有很多人的款，被扣在SEC ，没退","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0247d1edb70bd5217c45","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q234c7fbad5554631b6ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0247d1edb70bd5217c45","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q1f727ae4b42f5c8fea5c","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":772,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-14T13:48:21.023Z","text":"我实在不能理解你们一天天搞这些干啥，抓抓 重点吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f727ae4b42f5c8fea5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q38205027ecfd544f3dd5","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":773,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-14T13:49:57.695Z","text":"720里没有。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q090f39fcba0587951d48","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38205027ecfd544f3dd5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q090f39fcba0587951d48","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qa9b823fcfbcbf40fd183","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":774,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-14T13:51:21.457Z","text":"搞联盟还可以说联盟的人贪了钱，盯住个陈万生个小人物有什么用？对案子有帮助吗？写这些除了烦法官对案子有什么帮助作用？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9b823fcfbcbf40fd183","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q8b90c2f6c0d739e30c1d","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":775,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-14T13:53:50.582Z","text":"人也许就是为了表示慎重按个指印，你们这也要分析半天，真是闲得","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b90c2f6c0d739e30c1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q95d4416c932bb9a06a1f","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":776,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-14T14:24:49.369Z","text":"听说是张没有什么资质，很可能是找的借口","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5bae94475ebb961c3211","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95d4416c932bb9a06a1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bae94475ebb961c3211","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q05400342520b53627f04","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":777,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-07-14T14:28:13.848Z","text":"钱是在洗脚所被偷被抢，被转移，洗脚所找来个所未律师是为了你的利益跟政府要钱还是它在合伙坑投资人的钱。醒醒吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a061ead3b93b0b78173","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05400342520b53627f04","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a061ead3b93b0b78173","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q36ca16b0f090e46e040f","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":778,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-14T14:28:26.571Z","text":"我是直接联系公平基金，提供了个人银行账户，不过回复依旧是等，说第二批还没处理完，我是第三批","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6849b4f7c78ed37743f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36ca16b0f090e46e040f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6849b4f7c78ed37743f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qf9dc65823a4a9275959a","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":779,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-14T14:29:25.837Z","text":"没听说这个要求啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe4262a7187800bd1d706","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9dc65823a4a9275959a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4262a7187800bd1d706","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q9f09b7e4c7c393c9aea0","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":780,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T14:29:38.419Z","text":"那就故意的嘛 知道GTV最终会被检方没收\n故意拖，拖到没收令下达，钱就被检方扣了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q95d4416c932bb9a06a1f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f09b7e4c7c393c9aea0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95d4416c932bb9a06a1f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qb5a99878dc8d69a0f1d5","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":781,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-07-14T14:34:08.944Z","text":"它不是SB，它是在玩美国司法俄罗斯套娃游戏。喜交所就是犯罪平台。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q909ef2dc69a78e242ab5","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5a99878dc8d69a0f1d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qaa5f2d9f9ae8cdaa1da1","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":782,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-14T14:39:39.740Z","text":"公平基金与他们是一路同行者。\n因为，譬如几年前某某人刚给公平基金发完邮件，张某就给来了电话。试问，某某人的邮件和号码他是如何得到的？\n\n曾求其他关联人通过联盟找到长岛问此事，长岛说联盟委托给了张律师，直接找(移民律师)张律师就行了。（一、在长岛主政时期，巧合的是张律师抽到了最大的奖：特等奖，一台兰博基尼；二、再结合2024年7月份庭审后法庭披露出来的文件资料显示，长岛用他控制的(战友们的)款项，购买了张某的律所）\n\n后来青藤上来了，农场开会时，特意问SEC有关退款事宜，并请联盟提供相关服务支持，以及希望联盟能介入，青藤亲口说，联盟不管，你们自己去找张律师办理就好了。\n\n这不就是一个闭环么？\n利益输送，串起来了整个利益链条。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q36ca16b0f090e46e040f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa5f2d9f9ae8cdaa1da1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36ca16b0f090e46e040f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q05da51d45e647fe94d14","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":783,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-14T14:46:29.038Z","text":"喜交所和喜联储 有区别吗？我也很困惑","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb5a99878dc8d69a0f1d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05da51d45e647fe94d14","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5a99878dc8d69a0f1d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qb12ea220e87a4a8f4afe","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":784,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T14:50:15.565Z","text":"Sarah - 我觉得您的强项应该是在农场主/账目这方面， 二巡文件中提了一些人， 但是没有把他们系统的，300骨干，各个农场主给说一遍； 这个账目清楚了， 郭就无罪了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbf54425b46312714c296","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb12ea220e87a4a8f4afe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf54425b46312714c296","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q9189903915b2eac2b4a7","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":785,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T14:53:25.496Z","text":"现在不管是谁， 如果在郭案中， 法庭上是无害的、中性的， 或者不在危害郭案件的前提下， 一概不要理他们","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9189903915b2eac2b4a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qe26ea72affe6a8f75ff0","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":786,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-07-14T14:53:28.417Z","text":"区别大了，喜联储是发币联储，喜交所只是交易平台。具体发行的喜币个数是起决定性的证据的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe26ea72affe6a8f75ff0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q66c64d691f1677f2b844","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":787,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-14T15:00:28.393Z","text":"乱码妹说郭美捐款是在洗钱，并给郭美制造罪证\nhttps://x.com/sendxicptohell/status/2076878859308351945?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66c64d691f1677f2b844","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q21fb24819ecfc21eef59","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":788,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-07-14T15:02:55.816Z","text":"投资人的投资金额和拥有喜币的数额是可以相互佐证的。喜币总数就是验证投资人的验金石，对不上都是诈骗犯。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21fb24819ecfc21eef59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q0c9341d53c811823ed56","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":789,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-14T15:03:21.622Z","text":"很多二级市场买币的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q21fb24819ecfc21eef59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c9341d53c811823ed56","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21fb24819ecfc21eef59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q8a7a00a34f15910da269","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":790,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-14T15:04:29.257Z","text":"去郭美的破产法庭 看就知道什么情况了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q66c64d691f1677f2b844","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a7a00a34f15910da269","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66c64d691f1677f2b844","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q58ebac70375426e60834","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":791,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-07-14T15:05:39.886Z","text":"二级市场卖的也有入账喜交所的转帐记录。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0c9341d53c811823ed56","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58ebac70375426e60834","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c9341d53c811823ed56","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qf1e9f93da0a5a20a8783","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":792,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-14T15:09:29.031Z","text":"长岛哪来的钱？都是我们的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa5f2d9f9ae8cdaa1da1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1e9f93da0a5a20a8783","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa5f2d9f9ae8cdaa1da1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qdfd67b6d421004abb49e","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":793,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-07-14T15:17:33.173Z","text":"喜交所的律师就TMD强奸犯，被强奸了还挟持受害人告诉政府我来代表你把钱给我，我来分给你们。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfd67b6d421004abb49e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q104fa3d7c9efb167a5f7","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":794,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-14T15:50:43.174Z","text":"逆向思维推理题，反问那些信假“郭美”帐号的捐款者们，她如果连三十多万都没有，都需要靠捐款来维持，那后续还玩得下去么？你们这些信假“郭美”的人对后续还能抱什么希望呢？还有个啥的祈求啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q104fa3d7c9efb167a5f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q95c9e6dc533913ef0271","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":795,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-07-14T15:59:39.694Z","text":"又出来诈娟估记是催交律师费了，没钱给这帮狗律师！官司分分钟给它们停掉.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95c9e6dc533913ef0271","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qad258d0eec1acd09df75","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":796,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-14T16:00:02.449Z","text":"Luc那兒的虛假債權登記，很多人都登記了過億美元🤭\n\nhttps://document.epiq11.com/document/getdocumentbycode?docId=4568296&projectCode=HTT&source=DM","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad258d0eec1acd09df75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q99e4d987ff730abb11ce","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":797,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-14T16:05:19.277Z","text":"剪頭發的也登記了近兩億美元🤣發達啦！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99e4d987ff730abb11ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qdc33509a4f52a84ce7b7","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":798,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-14T16:10:22.397Z","text":"https://x.com/tiandao7777/status/2047267118115119259?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc33509a4f52a84ce7b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"qf1ba2a10750c53ed5db6","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":799,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-14T16:10:43.481Z","text":"https://document.epiq11.com/document/getdocumentbycode?docId=4568296&projectCode=HTT&source=DM","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1ba2a10750c53ed5db6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135"},{"id":"q94f200c06a1fcf64b276","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":800,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-07-14T16:12:26.776Z","text":"对啊 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