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may***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68bc60e2d56d028cab24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qd2276728de0d64e186a0","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":30,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-16T11:16:22.128Z","text":"出来当受害者证人的，也是从共谋里良心发现\n只能好好配合检方，还谈什么CVRA权益","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2276728de0d64e186a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q2c00236d39ec33bc0e67","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":31,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-16T11:17:26.737Z","text":"程序上没有这么主张，结果就是这个结果：猎杀郭及其支持者。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q68bc60e2d56d028cab24","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c00236d39ec33bc0e67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68bc60e2d56d028cab24","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qc69696810295f6c02f1f","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":32,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-16T11:18:45.717Z","text":"结果是美国政府把自己玩死了，现在已经变成了投资者自己诈骗自己。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc69696810295f6c02f1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q833858739b2c5ba0a552","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":33,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-16T11:20:02.449Z","text":"为什么后续还会要梯队换马甲，因为法庭要有喜国这个壳，定义6000人，方便维稳\n没了，就是6000散户 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非常同意🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86fa289cdab088e2fd41","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e9ab391057dd2934fcb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86fa289cdab088e2fd41","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q43651e54d3b4ab19d79d","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":44,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-16T11:32:05.157Z","text":"对啊，托雷斯反而成了人间清醒🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qedf20089345a1e5f84d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43651e54d3b4ab19d79d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedf20089345a1e5f84d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q6259b268b60ea8ef0627","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":45,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-16T11:32:58.167Z","text":"这都是什么破案子，背后设局的，估计现在也被绕进去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6259b268b60ea8ef0627","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q7854d7fb5302e7e2a1fd","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":46,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-16T11:52:26.900Z","text":"所以这案子要打到高院才行，先撤销本案中中共证据，再要到国会撤销中美国证据协作协议，中共都犯罪组织了，犯罪组织提供的证据能用吗？中共啥样的假证据拿不出来，美国执法人员在中共审讯室外等碰上残酷逼迫的证据这样的荒唐事都能出来，爆这个料的人很关键不知道现在哪，要是能逃到美国站出来就好了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc81539947c21f3bb9a50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7854d7fb5302e7e2a1fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc81539947c21f3bb9a50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qaa274d862f053a058d3b","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":47,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-16T11:56:30.385Z","text":"法轮功也是小里小气，遮遮掩掩的不肯大量报道郭的事，须不知他们自己也逃 不脱，本来是一荣俱荣，一损俱损，应该要和郭联合团结的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc81539947c21f3bb9a50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa274d862f053a058d3b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc81539947c21f3bb9a50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q8b8864decc3663c2c381","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":48,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-16T12:00:58.462Z","text":"凯尔巴斯是检方证人？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86fa289cdab088e2fd41","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b8864decc3663c2c381","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86fa289cdab088e2fd41","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qde612f303be686decc5f","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":49,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-16T12:05:15.050Z","text":"这案子，二巡就已经走不下去了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7854d7fb5302e7e2a1fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde612f303be686decc5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7854d7fb5302e7e2a1fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qa1c46d371caf0d7231a0","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":50,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-07-16T12:09:33.599Z","text":"https://x.com/xiongying28346/status/2077155065379614898?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1c46d371caf0d7231a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q991f2b3b752fbbf9624e","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":51,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-16T12:23:34.209Z","text":"这个应该是629庭审记录； 那些去了庭审现场的，应该仔细看， 看翻译的中文有没有做手脚，是不是属实的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q404b4f4aa2b8bdd953fc","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q991f2b3b752fbbf9624e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qd825551362d3a45d44ea","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":52,"speaker":"she***","date":"2026-07-16T12:35:38.835Z","text":"班农呢？？？？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b8864decc3663c2c381","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd825551362d3a45d44ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b8864decc3663c2c381","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q0b776dbfa0b383d4f7c9","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":53,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-16T13:20:15.245Z","text":"赢麻了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b776dbfa0b383d4f7c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q597797ef7bc755383ebb","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":54,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-16T13:20:31.995Z","text":"今天有什么战绩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q597797ef7bc755383ebb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qe94ac33b9a570db5ef72","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":55,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-07-16T13:50:51.000Z","text":"螺丝哥跟他们不大一样  他最近不怎么谈翻案的事了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe94ac33b9a570db5ef72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q4e4c67d09780b1eb42d6","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":56,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-07-16T13:51:11.513Z","text":"他应该是明白了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e4c67d09780b1eb42d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q86e22ad8a54a1023b497","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":57,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-16T14:12:14.620Z","text":"他们已经赢了好几年了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86e22ad8a54a1023b497","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q450d72fad78cd679b082","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":58,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-07-16T14:16:14.910Z","text":"螺丝哥 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你从哪听来的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q450d72fad78cd679b082","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e1f96670a58ab387eb7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q450d72fad78cd679b082","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qccbded567f33d8b0138f","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":67,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-16T17:37:54.619Z","text":"今天赢到什么程度了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccbded567f33d8b0138f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q69f6515abd238000d454","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":68,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T17:50:29.181Z","text":"输光了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69f6515abd238000d454","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qf2168867d67e51db83fb","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":69,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T18:16:34.689Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/2077819139079758289?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2168867d67e51db83fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qb276a0ff9db0045479fc","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":70,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-16T18:22:53.289Z","text":"二巡是不是没把你们当回事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb276a0ff9db0045479fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qa6bd0618220ae785442c","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":71,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T18:23:07.379Z","text":"二巡把我们的卷宗都烧掉了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb276a0ff9db0045479fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6bd0618220ae785442c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb276a0ff9db0045479fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q0c531bdd4e987bad0782","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":72,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T18:23:25.257Z","text":"然后在那里画符诅咒托雷斯😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c531bdd4e987bad0782","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q682571bed10d8bc4aad9","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":73,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-16T18:23:27.296Z","text":"最高法再去碰碰运气","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q682571bed10d8bc4aad9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qc6263d9bbd2cb0cef5c0","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":74,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T18:27:13.688Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 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赢麻了","edited":true,"reply_to":"qc6263d9bbd2cb0cef5c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe056da3c20291198e7d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6263d9bbd2cb0cef5c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q317fdeeac43339435ae0","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":76,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T18:29:35.450Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 二巡 最高法 国会 全都被我们叫醒了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q317fdeeac43339435ae0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qba1917c0629188b7f336","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":77,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T18:29:43.023Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 赢麻了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba1917c0629188b7f336","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qf95a273a0d91f31a53a7","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":78,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-16T18:30:09.049Z","text":"是一切都是刚刚开始还是一切已经开始","edited":false,"reply_to":"q317fdeeac43339435ae0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf95a273a0d91f31a53a7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q317fdeeac43339435ae0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q8015494773e084d5eafe","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":79,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T18:30:19.119Z","text":"一切都结束了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf95a273a0d91f31a53a7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8015494773e084d5eafe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf95a273a0d91f31a53a7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qbaf8c29e0d0333e21155","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":80,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-16T18:30:27.901Z","text":"喜国人听了8年了 讲实话听腻了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbaf8c29e0d0333e21155","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qa01c21313a573ea3d81e","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":81,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T18:30:42.924Z","text":"结束了 喜国人就是炮灰","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbaf8c29e0d0333e21155","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa01c21313a573ea3d81e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbaf8c29e0d0333e21155","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q4a6684df9abc0a38969a","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":82,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-16T18:35:25.720Z","text":"都想当官 哪那么多位置","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a6684df9abc0a38969a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q6ce09c5ad88d32733b02","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":83,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T18:35:30.319Z","text":"瞎扯 凡是上动议的都有名","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce4b33550e84e19d4da3","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ce09c5ad88d32733b02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qfd76c56c1dfa67ca17f3","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":84,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-16T18:35:45.630Z","text":"美国律师天团？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd76c56c1dfa67ca17f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qc30d18d264a1e070ebc4","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":85,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T18:36:12.585Z","text":"郭骗13亿 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Moss↓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ec0a4289e4011724050","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q745f0482cc6e32aa1add","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":125,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-16T22:40:51.582Z","text":"记住了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q745f0482cc6e32aa1add","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q3484eae966546b4e268f","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":126,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-16T23:19:37.521Z","text":"这是，窝里斗？🤣 🤣 🤣 \n［用户 him***］ 质疑 ［用户 may***］ 🤣 🤣 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犯罪受害者权利法案，与检方协商的权利。谁行驶一下这个权利啊？联系检方，问问检方，如果托尼密封的卷宗是真的，对中国境内受害者意味着什么，对案件没程序收量刑程序等等案件所有程序有什么影响","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92cbd2ba78e26842d17b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qb4ffbf98eb2968f2b079","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":129,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-16T23:58:08.334Z","text":"安小东你的强制令欺诈法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70327830e3df6d7c4f80","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4ffbf98eb2968f2b079","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70327830e3df6d7c4f80","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q0ec6acdad2fda1866d04","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":130,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-16T23:58:52.405Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 文件房间，17c传票相关的事情捋了一遍","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ec6acdad2fda1866d04","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qb002e06b199aa66f7caf","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":131,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-17T00:07:02.244Z","text":"郭文贵直播时也说过很多回","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14ab7eaacf71c5afd867","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb002e06b199aa66f7caf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qf3614b92eec26b7034d3","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":132,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:13:09.996Z","text":"法庭上只有一个意见虎，后来辩方不是有几十个人提交了被抓捕的证据吗？检方肯定知道有人被抓捕。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e2d8acf385b6984c241","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3614b92eec26b7034d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q87cb35908dacfe7b8ca5","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":133,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:13:34.843Z","text":"现在法庭上各方对被抓捕这些人都装看不见","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87cb35908dacfe7b8ca5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q396557845d1d87662439","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":134,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:20:29.845Z","text":"Bao chu 428页二巡文件，把联盟的可能造假的证据捋了一遍，包括郭美的众筹 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q396557845d1d87662439","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q78efefe8a32e81bf928f","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":135,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T00:21:35.181Z","text":"这是他潜伏这么多年的最终目的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3577b93f6b55673c4200","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78efefe8a32e81bf928f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q2e3d3200b88d6a1f0fee","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":136,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-17T00:25:07.751Z","text":"我阅读了这份文件的前几十页（共428页），它实际上不是一份普通的上诉状，而是一个由多个紧急动议（Emergency Motions）+补充证据（Supplemental Evidence）+大量附件组成的证据包，于2026年7月14日向美国第二巡回上诉法院（Second Circuit）提交。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e3d3200b88d6a1f0fee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q3c0b67352de8e7411f78","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":137,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-17T00:25:37.428Z","text":"作者提出：\n\n（1）人在欧洲\n\n文件称：\n\n* 自己属于 IFP（贫困诉讼）\n* 身在欧洲\n* 无法承担数百页材料国际邮寄费用\n\n因此要求：\n\nFRAP 2 暂停 FRAP 25(c)(1)(D) 的书面同意要求。\n\n意思就是：\n\n“不要要求我必须取得美国政府同意才能电子送达。”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c0b67352de8e7411f78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q4b803f07e5b5b6d225f1","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":138,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-17T00:26:00.346Z","text":"文件进一步称：\n\n德国和奥地利通信受到干扰，\n\n国际邮寄长期丢失，\n\n所以纸质送达已经客观不能完成","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b803f07e5b5b6d225f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q96175628d5ceb5b5309d","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":139,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-17T00:26:33.494Z","text":"作者提出：\n\n2026年7月13日\n\nGETTR出现了郭美的新帖子。\n\n随后：\n\nGoFundMe上线。\n\n然后：\n\n38分钟内筹得38万多美元。\n\n文件认为：\n\n这不是正常募捐。\n\n而是：\n\n资金池（Fund Pooling）。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96175628d5ceb5b5309d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q0257a799dd5bdf0f39fc","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":140,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-17T00:26:55.744Z","text":"四、核心证据\n\n作者统计了：\n\n100笔付款。\n\n得出三个数字：\n\n①\n\n38分钟\n\n完成全部筹款。\n\n②\n\n77%\n\n匿名。\n\n③\n\n95%以上金额\n\n来自匿名账户。 bao chu二巡文件.pdf\n\n因此作者推论：\n\n这是提前安排好的资金。\n\n不是自然募捐。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0257a799dd5bdf0f39fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q07cfc595190905e9b3ec","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":141,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:27:44.530Z","text":"Bao chu这人在欧洲，她申请了ecf。动议我没仔细看，就看到郭美众筹的部分。还有一些其他乱七八糟的证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b803f07e5b5b6d225f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07cfc595190905e9b3ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b803f07e5b5b6d225f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qc985f799eccb8663fdb4","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":142,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-17T00:27:47.610Z","text":"六、Identity Theft（身份盗用）\n\n这是全文最大的理论之一。\n\n作者认为：\n\n郭美账号：\n\n不是郭美本人。\n\n而是：\n\n从2023年开始，\n\n一直有人：\n\n冒充郭美。\n\n文件引用：\n\n以前提交法院的BOP电话记录：\n\n郭美电话权限直到：\n\n2023年8月29日\n\n才被激活。 bao chu二巡文件.pdf\n\n于是作者认为：\n\n2023年5月至8月大量：\n\n“爸爸告诉我……”\n\n这些帖子：\n\n时间上不可能。\n\n因此：\n\n属于身份盗用。\n\n⸻\n\n七、继续实施Wire Fraud\n\n文件进一步认为：\n\n2026年7月13日：\n\n同一个身份\n\n再次出现。\n\n这说明：\n\n身份盗用一直持续。\n\n于是推导：\n\n如果：\n\n同一个身份\n\n继续募款，\n\n则：\n\n属于持续实施：\n\n18 U.S.C. §1343 Wire Fraud。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc985f799eccb8663fdb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q7c119c969f9b18392f52","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":143,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-17T00:28:20.151Z","text":"八、检方的问题\n\n文件进一步提出：\n\n政府一直把：\n\n青藤联盟\n\n作为：\n\nCVRA受害人组织。\n\n作者认为：\n\n实际上：\n\n这些人：\n\n帮助制作：\n\nRemission申请。\n\n帮助：\n\n组织索赔。\n\n帮助：\n\n大量提交受害人名单。\n\n因此：\n\n政府事实上依赖了一个：\n\n仍在继续犯罪的组织。 bao chu二巡文件.pdf","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c119c969f9b18392f52","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qd1c29251025cbc7c77eb","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":144,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-07-17T00:29:07.634Z","text":"整体评价：\n\n* 这份材料更像是一份紧急补充证据包（Emergency Supplemental Evidence Package），试图利用2026年7月13日的新事件，说服第二巡回法院关注案件之外发生的后续事实，并据此要求进一步调查检方披露义务和案件基础，而不仅仅是针对原审法律错误进行传统上诉。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1c29251025cbc7c77eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q24a164713717c8517c2e","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":145,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:29:34.372Z","text":"这人好像不只打青藤，他是所有联盟的人都打，还打郭美，也打Victor律师，nick","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c119c969f9b18392f52","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24a164713717c8517c2e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c119c969f9b18392f52","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q3c593b240e3b12b6a5cc","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":146,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:30:05.028Z","text":"盖尔, gavenman他现在好像也打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c593b240e3b12b6a5cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q3c749a7d6d62e2fe86f2","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":147,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:32:18.632Z","text":"428页包含了他之前的所有动议吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b65f8e02853a2aa0ad1","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c749a7d6d62e2fe86f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q6526f9836c059ddc1869","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":148,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:32:36.424Z","text":"这人搞了很多证据，但是真假不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6526f9836c059ddc1869","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q90a4b97c11d84a8e5a89","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":149,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T00:33:00.787Z","text":"别你妈装了 你这是欺诈法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6526f9836c059ddc1869","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90a4b97c11d84a8e5a89","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6526f9836c059ddc1869","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qa23e05c505beacb85996","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":150,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-17T00:34:04.465Z","text":"这个人感觉很特别，二巡程序要求那么繁琐。在ta这里，说自己ifp就ifp，说不用邮寄就不用邮寄。然后还给上传了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa23e05c505beacb85996","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qf4644fb99cf38e94fb52","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":151,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:34:26.924Z","text":"他申请了，但是好像二巡还没批准","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa23e05c505beacb85996","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4644fb99cf38e94fb52","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa23e05c505beacb85996","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qe50917ed7c0262ec3ffb","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":152,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-17T00:36:04.401Z","text":"没批准就不应该上传文件。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4644fb99cf38e94fb52","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe50917ed7c0262ec3ffb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4644fb99cf38e94fb52","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q94785765c2a38ecb3185","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":153,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:36:12.433Z","text":"他在二巡发了很多动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94785765c2a38ecb3185","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q4ffc165e4c8635880caa","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":154,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:36:45.538Z","text":"似乎二巡没批准也可以上传","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe50917ed7c0262ec3ffb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ffc165e4c8635880caa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe50917ed7c0262ec3ffb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qd81a678c77d5bbfc7750","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":155,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:37:06.174Z","text":"可能因为他在欧洲","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd81a678c77d5bbfc7750","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q3fb16f33729221cbc240","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":156,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:37:23.552Z","text":"二巡考虑到他沟通不是很方便","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fb16f33729221cbc240","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q57689805748508492964","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":157,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-17T00:38:40.308Z","text":"为何其它很多人，还是寄了支票，都不给立案。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ffc165e4c8635880caa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57689805748508492964","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ffc165e4c8635880caa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q4b28e6f15f618d6d3437","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":158,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:38:47.010Z","text":"这人“阴谋论”式的风格有点像猪贝贝，但是他证据方面收集的很齐全，比猪贝贝要强","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b28e6f15f618d6d3437","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q3824124f70897afc8dee","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":159,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:39:51.398Z","text":"我觉得二巡也是有选择性的立案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q57689805748508492964","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3824124f70897afc8dee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57689805748508492964","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q3c81612bedb2fce0ae93","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":160,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:40:13.715Z","text":"至少你提出的问题要新颖","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c81612bedb2fce0ae93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q3a7782a68f6f5bbfe50c","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":161,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T00:40:13.849Z","text":"这个人就是 [删节：隐私信息][删节：成员身份] 他背后有洋爹盖尔","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa23e05c505beacb85996","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a7782a68f6f5bbfe50c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa23e05c505beacb85996","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q4f43db55d73e5716197c","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":162,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:40:26.777Z","text":"以前是这样，现在不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f43db55d73e5716197c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q893ef810e8afbec20792","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":163,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:40:34.868Z","text":"现在二巡好像容易多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q893ef810e8afbec20792","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qeeb9465dad340f829143","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":164,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-17T00:41:49.768Z","text":"不是什么新颖，就是玄学。可能跟自己遇到的书记员有关，值班法官等因素有关。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c81612bedb2fce0ae93","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeeb9465dad340f829143","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c81612bedb2fce0ae93","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q67ab211341990c8b3982","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":165,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T00:42:24.590Z","text":"这个破处 鲍处 就是安小东就是 ［用户 him***］  他爹是盖尔 当然是南区vip ［用户 reb***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"qeeb9465dad340f829143","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67ab211341990c8b3982","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeeb9465dad340f829143","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q35ba5be1d022489bcf23","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":166,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-17T00:42:37.907Z","text":"但现在baochu的这个有待，让我觉得不是玄学那么简单。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35ba5be1d022489bcf23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qc6453ab2f1a36663b82e","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":167,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T00:43:17.823Z","text":"他洋爹盖尔教他怎么申请","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35ba5be1d022489bcf23","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6453ab2f1a36663b82e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35ba5be1d022489bcf23","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qc2a500d30171a5045c70","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":168,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:44:46.600Z","text":"能写428页，二巡都看傻了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35ba5be1d022489bcf23","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2a500d30171a5045c70","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35ba5be1d022489bcf23","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q584e5016f238b6dde4f0","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":169,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T00:45:15.867Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]浪费司法资源 欺诈法庭 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qc2a500d30171a5045c70","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q584e5016f238b6dde4f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2a500d30171a5045c70","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q47072d19764bdb4e950c","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":170,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-17T00:45:40.840Z","text":"合理推测，是为了给法庭多一些滥诉自诉人，让自诉人滥诉化。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47072d19764bdb4e950c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q72232f03140aaf87e3b1","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":171,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T00:45:53.932Z","text":"而且他欺诈法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47072d19764bdb4e950c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72232f03140aaf87e3b1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47072d19764bdb4e950c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q3ff35306426d57fd8f8e","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":172,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:46:03.725Z","text":"自诉人是不是滥诉，不好确定啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47072d19764bdb4e950c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ff35306426d57fd8f8e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47072d19764bdb4e950c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q62fd5c8515a262676134","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":173,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:46:15.393Z","text":"法官还说螺丝哥也是滥诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62fd5c8515a262676134","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q0a4d7bbf0fa24f659ca1","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":174,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:46:39.253Z","text":"二巡既然立案了，就说明他们不觉得是滥诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a4d7bbf0fa24f659ca1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qb63a7173c15567b2946b","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":175,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T00:46:39.622Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 你浪费司法资源 欺诈法庭 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb63a7173c15567b2946b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q17f57fc2c07f583bdb96","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":176,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-17T00:47:10.645Z","text":"螺丝哥在二巡证明自己没有滥诉，这个让在证明它自己在滥诉。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q62fd5c8515a262676134","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17f57fc2c07f583bdb96","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62fd5c8515a262676134","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qa24315c58306d44069ec","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":177,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T00:47:22.821Z","text":"观察仔细","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17f57fc2c07f583bdb96","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa24315c58306d44069ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17f57fc2c07f583bdb96","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qb5c5a2f5f156148a0dca","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":178,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-17T00:47:42.585Z","text":"可以理解为固定滥诉证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a4d7bbf0fa24f659ca1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5c5a2f5f156148a0dca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a4d7bbf0fa24f659ca1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qbbf08dc0b6a94b9f0251","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":179,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:47:47.790Z","text":"二巡如果上传了，还说他滥诉，那二巡就有问题了。二巡如果觉得他是滥诉，明明可以不上传的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17f57fc2c07f583bdb96","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbf08dc0b6a94b9f0251","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17f57fc2c07f583bdb96","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q90c0bb4ebe0206a5c8b9","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":180,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T00:48:23.072Z","text":"安小东你他妈真是法盲 螺丝哥不也是先上传 再被打为烂诉？ ［用户 reb***］ 你看看这个安小东多[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qbbf08dc0b6a94b9f0251","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90c0bb4ebe0206a5c8b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbf08dc0b6a94b9f0251","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qf21b43d32d8b68d972cd","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":181,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-17T00:49:03.877Z","text":"不。你不可能不上传滥诉的证据，就裁决当事人在滥诉。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbbf08dc0b6a94b9f0251","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf21b43d32d8b68d972cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbf08dc0b6a94b9f0251","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q1011b613a5d2e9386e19","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":182,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:49:36.045Z","text":"那就看看以后二巡会不会说他是滥诉呗，至少目前二巡还没有说他是滥诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf21b43d32d8b68d972cd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1011b613a5d2e9386e19","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf21b43d32d8b68d972cd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qc1c5dc0d8e5624eaf04c","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":183,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:53:31.780Z","text":"现在这个bao chu说郭美是假的，如果以后证明郭美真的众筹，他不就被打脸吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c5dc0d8e5624eaf04c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q7129e490cd60b4ad02c7","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":184,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:53:54.005Z","text":"郭美众筹是真是假，问一下郭美的律师不就知道了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7129e490cd60b4ad02c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q20edea9ab40f33d68ecb","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":185,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T00:54:02.443Z","text":"猜有什么用？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20edea9ab40f33d68ecb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q552381efb5e5590296ad","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":186,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T01:02:44.494Z","text":"猜 没用 你安小东是直接骗 ［用户 him***］  你的exhibi 6呢？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q20edea9ab40f33d68ecb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q552381efb5e5590296ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20edea9ab40f33d68ecb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qe3d4bf9412a502d4eedc","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":187,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-17T01:11:32.229Z","text":"請問有沒有郭美的律師的聯絡方式？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1c5dc0d8e5624eaf04c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3d4bf9412a502d4eedc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c5dc0d8e5624eaf04c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q78160169c19dd743c078","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":188,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T01:14:02.611Z","text":"去破产案的动议里找一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3d4bf9412a502d4eedc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78160169c19dd743c078","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3d4bf9412a502d4eedc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q526ee305992fb09be5a9","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":189,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T01:14:44.627Z","text":"如果问郭美是不是真的众筹，她律师应该会回答","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q526ee305992fb09be5a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q2d38dc7086c1f0bd59a2","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":190,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T01:15:27.178Z","text":"https://www.youtube.com/live/9jjHi2O5fBw?is=xjvRGRzowwzeskJY","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d38dc7086c1f0bd59a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q9f35084aeabdccc4080c","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":191,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T01:18:41.387Z","text":"中共操控美国选举！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f35084aeabdccc4080c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qbecec0fcad50d3cc337e","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":192,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-17T01:29:21.124Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/2077928568840188150?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbecec0fcad50d3cc337e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q158a9d82e742734f85ca","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":193,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-17T01:54:20.121Z","text":"郭先生好几年前预言的这一天，果真到来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q158a9d82e742734f85ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q57f89e3ee2851fde8c6e","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":194,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-17T01:57:15.867Z","text":"目测街头针对个体的“排华”事件也会接踵而至，请身在海外的同胞，务必多多注意❗️\n一旦发生对个体“排华”抵制、谩骂等现象，将不仅仅只在美国发生，会蔓延至全球各国。\n各国政府官方也会出针对中国人相应的严控措施。\n（参考当年美国的“排日”之严厉。）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57f89e3ee2851fde8c6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q729113578edbea58dd07","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":195,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T02:10:47.103Z","text":"排华还不至于，排华之前会先把CCP灭掉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q57f89e3ee2851fde8c6e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q729113578edbea58dd07","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57f89e3ee2851fde8c6e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q35fda49218be16e7f796","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":196,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T02:11:00.148Z","text":"或者中国人自己就把CCP灭掉了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35fda49218be16e7f796","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qbb16b6dfb06e48ba027b","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":197,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-17T02:42:22.624Z","text":"川普在说中共窃取了2.2亿个选民资料，这些资料再结合字节跳动的算法，对美国想怎么玩就怎么玩，而另一方面，川普却还在想着跟中国就抖音谈交易，不断给抖音延期，本来都已经被禁了，应该保持被禁的这个状态，再跟中共扯，他却不断主动给中共延期。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb16b6dfb06e48ba027b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qa5a377234a0ad8791a38","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":198,"speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-17T02:48:47.142Z","text":"洋抖Tik Tok卖给Oracle ，Ellison 的太太是Jolin zhu ，唉，一言难尽……","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5a377234a0ad8791a38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"qf231aefa024413427627","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":199,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-07-17T02:51:03.126Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming64/status/2077826620853833974? 这个淘喵保险都不买实在不应该，其实很多给开伊维菌素的非主流诊所也可以用保险的，就是oon，也比没有强","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf231aefa024413427627","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"},{"id":"q48dc252111459f93fe28","batch_id":"batch-000136","seq":200,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-17T02:52:48.777Z","text":"你好像很希望排华？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q09d8e3d9909f34a42353","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48dc252111459f93fe28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000136"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000135","next_batch_id":"batch-000137"}