{"id":"batch-000141","number":141,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-07-29T20:08:32.152Z","date_end":"2026-08-02T17:37:07.251Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 141 (Jul 29, 2026 – Aug 2, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants dispute whether procedural defects can be remedied and underlying facts redetermined, focusing on Second Circuit deadlines, Form B filings, counsel representation, and appellate record boundaries. Debates persist over asset control and forfeiture, questioning whether membership dues benefited Guo personally or if criminal forfeiture, bankruptcy estates, and third-party rights coexist. Accusations of artificial intelligence fabrication and selective disclosure cloud evidentiary materials, while political conspiracies divide participants seeking fund recovery without reaching consensus.","guide_en":[{"title":"Procedural Thresholds and Appellate Timing: Form B, Counsel Deadlines, and Unrepresented Appeals","description":"Participants dispute whether representation deadlines and lack of counsel jeopardize the appeal.","message_ids":["qf7514932c97871996e92","qfb267dd421054fb8397b","q4bb6e036343b21d1b496"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf7514932c97871996e92","summary_en":"him*** asks whether Guo will be able to secure legal counsel before Aug 10, 2026."},{"message_id":"qfb267dd421054fb8397b","summary_en":"ntp*** questions whether the Second Circuit would invalidate proceedings solely due to a third party or if it must wait for appellate counsel to weigh in."},{"message_id":"q4bb6e036343b21d1b496","summary_en":"ntp*** queries whether filing an appeal must precede hiring an 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3500 材料施加如此重大的限制，见美国 诉 Trump 案，\nNo. 23 Cr.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c0c8c7a4cc37f5670d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q04468aa38fc91ac781b4","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":604,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-01T15:23:15.489Z","text":"班农的尾巴露出来了\n\nhttps://x.com/bannons_warroom/status/2083309600204271644?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04468aa38fc91ac781b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qb835e3ea545e5a6358b7","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":605,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-01T15:41:14.300Z","text":"他拿了老共的钱10万吧，后来就不和他直播了，说他非常便宜","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb835e3ea545e5a6358b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q1c15b24a748b951dcf12","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":606,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-01T16:02:15.047Z","text":"政客都是利益至上，没一个靠谱的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c15b24a748b951dcf12","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q097fda7f85d1bc514e7b","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":607,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-08-01T17:22:35.542Z","text":"所以说郭文贵看人不准","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q097fda7f85d1bc514e7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q3a92e11527f74f668a08","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":608,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-08-01T17:22:52.150Z","text":"看看人家刘邦 多会用人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a92e11527f74f668a08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qe07057b6e170b8135801","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":609,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-08-01T17:26:52.685Z","text":"喜国人天天站在道德制高点上 什么政客利益至上 中国十几亿人 哪个不利益至上 你不给人家利益 人家凭什么冒风险帮你剿匪 你他妈第一天做人啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe07057b6e170b8135801","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q38eab59e9863ede4bcb1","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":610,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-08-01T17:28:49.943Z","text":"喜国投资者哪个不利益至上 郭总统不忽悠你说喜币会上月球 你会投吗 笑死 装什么逼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38eab59e9863ede4bcb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q83ce2691ee6d6ae172e1","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":611,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-01T19:00:51.016Z","text":"没那么严重： 班农100%是灭共的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q04468aa38fc91ac781b4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83ce2691ee6d6ae172e1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04468aa38fc91ac781b4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q52fb87b752860fa70e9d","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":612,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-01T19:01:57.918Z","text":"这个应该是上海帮宣誓对盖特的控制什么的。没有班农 就没有现在的盖特","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52fb87b752860fa70e9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q5780f27ac711ca452a9a","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":613,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-01T19:48:58.102Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/2083641114570207698?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5780f27ac711ca452a9a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q7080e5e00fba1c8b8674","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":614,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-01T20:02:21.450Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2083644430335328419?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7080e5e00fba1c8b8674","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q125d9e5d55fcf1fb995b","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":615,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-01T20:10:37.551Z","text":"敌人跟咱们一样，但他太不挑拣了点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q83ce2691ee6d6ae172e1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q125d9e5d55fcf1fb995b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83ce2691ee6d6ae172e1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qa8715c2d88ea82643819","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":616,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-01T20:10:50.864Z","text":"https://x.com/365Crh/status/2083471406948614538?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8715c2d88ea82643819","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qd920e7245802511f4ada","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":617,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-01T21:11:06.247Z","text":"看看人家法轮功，多少人被抓，多少人死，年龄等等，被抓呼吁营救等等，至少还能看到。唯独爆料革命，全部黑箱操作！谁投资郭文贵被抓了，一个也不能验证！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd920e7245802511f4ada","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q31de8fdf098887f7161a","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":618,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-01T21:40:12.634Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2083669065722372101?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31de8fdf098887f7161a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qe5e76f9c13c5a7a22a82","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":619,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-01T22:08:13.917Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2083676131228873072?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5e76f9c13c5a7a22a82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q90064f63ce8859c903f9","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":620,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-01T23:36:00.402Z","text":"我也造谣一下。\n\n郭文贵经常给我打电话，但是，因为我的手机喇叭坏了，我接不到。小郭子是不是会非常失望啊？等开了工资买一个喇叭管用的老年机，不能让郭文贵总是打电话找不到我啊！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90064f63ce8859c903f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qea550617b882cda5e559","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":621,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-02T01:45:56.311Z","text":"最近群里聊案件的少了。\n\n应该是大局已定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea550617b882cda5e559","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q57a7d3ba8c9caf4817cd","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":622,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-02T01:46:16.761Z","text":"大局是？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57a7d3ba8c9caf4817cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q3056c9f63af67066a17a","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":623,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T01:46:32.614Z","text":"郭案必翻","edited":false,"reply_to":"q57a7d3ba8c9caf4817cd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3056c9f63af67066a17a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.co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在郭案的角色扑朔迷离！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd44d27fc6100f44a414a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdecae6f34eea0a75ae57","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd44d27fc6100f44a414a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q2cd5781ed9e3c3ee182c","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":628,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T01:58:14.291Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  如果托雷斯最近那个order 解封的是gavenman的那几百人的seal的文件给检方 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Instructions？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a58c0bc2c12d3c2cc87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qfaacfa58de4abe00d315","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":631,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T02:01:20.357Z","text":"我盲猜 是不是余想彻底和郭切割 把罪名都给郭，他和王变成英雄？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaacfa58de4abe00d315","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qa6122e04d15dbe298223","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":632,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T02:01:29.810Z","text":"860？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a58c0bc2c12d3c2cc87","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6122e04d15dbe298223","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a58c0bc2c12d3c2cc87","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q0f5690505050fca9da43","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":633,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-02T02:02:14.422Z","text":"最终陪审团指示，怎么会是860?当然不是啦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6122e04d15dbe298223","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f5690505050fca9da43","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6122e04d15dbe298223","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q3a3e0a8244a94fd097c1","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":634,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-02T02:02:57.371Z","text":"有这个可能","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfaacfa58de4abe00d315","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a3e0a8244a94fd097c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaacfa58de4abe00d315","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qb9e5499f829905e787de","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":635,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T02:03:06.820Z","text":"哦 那个有的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f5690505050fca9da43","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9e5499f829905e787de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f5690505050fca9da43","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qd98c56b35811521fd898","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":636,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T02:03:12.356Z","text":"忘了几号","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd98c56b35811521fd898","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qa54a77eb4df0de13ed73","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":637,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-02T02:05:25.187Z","text":"余也有律师啊。那么郭被诬陷从ACA CAPITAL 拿钱给郭妻 郭强， 他为什么不提供原始账本： ACA 是在2016年成立， 早于G系列投资，为什么不提供往来账目呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa54a77eb4df0de13ed73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q837ee59a153897498f63","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":638,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-02T02:18:26.805Z","text":"没有一个文件号是专门的最终陪审团指示，一个一个查没看到，可能是混在庭审纪录里？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb9e5499f829905e787de","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q837ee59a153897498f63","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9e5499f829905e787de","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q5676d29f260e9f963f5f","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":639,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-02T02:20:57.284Z","text":"余没出庭，好像也没有什么缺席审判什么的，也没有缺席宣判什么的，不知道是怎么回事，难怪有个陪审员觉得好奇搜索余","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa54a77eb4df0de13ed73","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5676d29f260e9f963f5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa54a77eb4df0de13ed73","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qfb3b03adef2fd2f07161","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":640,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T02:25:25.190Z","text":"我查了机器人 把被告和853一起代理 就是一种集中管控的方式","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb3b03adef2fd2f07161","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q9569de0f6c5397c159e2","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":641,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-02T02:28:16.785Z","text":"？ 谁集中管控？ 背后黑手？\n\n这个案子 检方自己说他们背后有好几个律师事务所给他们干活\n\n为什么需要这么多的人呢？造假案不容易啊！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfb3b03adef2fd2f07161","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9569de0f6c5397c159e2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb3b03adef2fd2f07161","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q8c7ba783001b557d3cff","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":642,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T02:29:31.946Z","text":"gavenman 代理余的文件在733后 所以 我猜 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我们的分析就很容易","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35d13f484e5aa2db2548","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qc2bbafbe39ca92a8f586","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":657,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T02:50:08.190Z","text":"如果不是这原因 我看不出gavenman 代理余有什么 好处","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70a380c13495989ace5c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2bbafbe39ca92a8f586","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70a380c13495989ace5c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q3d1b117af786b165c338","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":658,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-02T02:56:12.854Z","text":"是奇怪啊。那么多的律师 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[删节：成员身份]  \n\nhttps://x.com/testurheart/status/2072406394121191845?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f3bdc6b35af3613dd38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q7e6dd039efd4f1d2c26b","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":678,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T07:56:14.705Z","text":"没","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f3bdc6b35af3613dd38","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e6dd039efd4f1d2c26b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f3bdc6b35af3613dd38","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q3a6f9c40f3f49db2d7f8","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":679,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-02T07:57:57.783Z","text":"老郭的上诉律师也没动静","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a6f9c40f3f49db2d7f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q402090189115016ce4f2","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":680,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T07:58:30.027Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2083824681413742775?s=46 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是媒体好像","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q716d177be87f133b7cf1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q891ac1a43480c1c2bd7c","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":771,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-02T08:54:45.262Z","text":"但那是量刑前","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q891ac1a43480c1c2bd7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q17215d3fe5ef9090f768","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":772,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T08:54:50.875Z","text":"那也一样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q891ac1a43480c1c2bd7c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17215d3fe5ef9090f768","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q891ac1a43480c1c2bd7c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q2762adebfa6e76703082","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":773,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T08:55:02.630Z","text":"只要你reocord在","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2762adebfa6e76703082","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q5d78a924489b69f75cba","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":774,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-02T08:55:09.061Z","text":"量刑后还能翻案的，还没有吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d78a924489b69f75cba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q6960455a51cdff54e4c5","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":775,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T08:55:16.292Z","text":"当然有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d78a924489b69f75cba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6960455a51cdff54e4c5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d78a924489b69f75cba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q2c01da8ef896b186be79","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":776,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T08:55:27.673Z","text":"这就取决于你第三方record有没有打进去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c01da8ef896b186be79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q2be9135d0c51f29b12e9","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":777,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-02T08:55:34.493Z","text":"郭案 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喜国分红了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff3bad61d5963318a9a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q5b0f00d45625c11316d1","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":792,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-02T10:48:14.759Z","text":"老黄也开始说班农","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b0f00d45625c11316d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q525f5475367cfa6bd963","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":793,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-02T10:48:29.861Z","text":"说班农认为老郭出不来了，转而跟蛇妖握手言和","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q525f5475367cfa6bd963","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q6562a647a3f400a5491b","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":794,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-02T10:51:35.308Z","text":"粪青还会参与战斗室吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6562a647a3f400a5491b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qbfd948440d3f7b328502","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":795,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-02T10:53:16.382Z","text":"参与就跟老郭冲突，不参与就丢掉了班农那的话语权","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfd948440d3f7b328502","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q7d9e57d846651bfa789e","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":796,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-02T10:58:19.000Z","text":"老黄又说蛇妖捏造新冠证据，总之只要对我党不利的都要批","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d9e57d846651bfa789e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q5ec1358508f38ce55388","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":797,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-02T11:22:49.372Z","text":"老黄说有人看到苍天去量刑现场了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ec1358508f38ce55388","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"qff95ae5ddcb3d28b60c9","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":798,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-02T11:26:55.988Z","text":"苍天那天确实去了当时有人拍照发X的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5ec1358508f38ce55388","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff95ae5ddcb3d28b60c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ec1358508f38ce55388","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q76b558e6166dda0c86c5","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":799,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-02T11:27:30.233Z","text":"所以苍天走了灭爆发个通知就拉倒了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qff95ae5ddcb3d28b60c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76b558e6166dda0c86c5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff95ae5ddcb3d28b60c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"},{"id":"q22e0a0a8deb35d4331c8","batch_id":"batch-000141","seq":800,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-02T11:36:44.905Z","text":"苍天是什么时候蹦出来的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22e0a0a8deb35d4331c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000141"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000140","next_batch_id":"batch-000142"}