{"id":"batch-000144","number":144,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-08-09T00:51:46.984Z","date_end":"2026-08-12T00:21:33.568Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 144 (Aug 9, 2026 – Aug 12, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions begin with allegations of kidnapping and factional smear campaigns, progressing into disputes over social media materials and PACER docket records. Participants debate appellate procedural maneuvers, including whether Second Circuit mandates, motions to recall mandates, or vacate filings can facilitate overturning decisions, alongside evidentiary admissibility of audio recordings. Factional infighting deepens over internal moderation, while attention turns to asset forfeiture, bankruptcy coordination, and fund recovery priority regarding properties like Mahwah, amid divergent views on judicial systemic failure.","guide_en":[{"title":"Clashing Origin Narratives: Recurring Conflicts Over Kidnapping, Smears, and Attributed Connections","description":"Participants dispute initial relational claims and conflicting accusations surrounding alleged kidnappings and smear tactics.","message_ids":["q6aa36f17ee1543202af7","q91fa302b5bc2e6594af9","qf69ebd3ea5bf1a441401"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6aa36f17ee1543202af7","summary_en":"kir*** asks another participant if their account was the one associated with Luosi from the start."},{"message_id":"q91fa302b5bc2e6594af9","summary_en":"him*** contends that the situation mirrors the Alliance's tactic of alleged kidnapping."},{"message_id":"qf69ebd3ea5bf1a441401","summary_en":"kir*** questions whether claims by An Xiaodong alleging a kidnapping actually took place."}]},{"title":"Treating Social Media and Case Records as Evidence: Cross-Checking Posts and PACER Filings","description":"Participants debate the reliability of social media posts while cross-checking docket updates and stay denials on PACER.","message_ids":["q7b55bdca4502d2c76632","q9b66504a1b9823b7542d","q85b64ab53db80388c32c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7b55bdca4502d2c76632","summary_en":"roy*** shares a link to an external social media post on X."},{"message_id":"q9b66504a1b9823b7542d","summary_en":"ntp*** claims that among the renewed mandates, only those concerning Luosi and Tony were rejected."},{"message_id":"q85b64ab53db80388c32c","summary_en":"ntp*** states that their two stay requests were denied long ago and advises reviewing PACER."}]},{"title":"Controversy Over Mandates: Significance, Sponsorship, and Retrial Milestones","description":"Participants discuss the issuance of the mandate and the appropriate timing for filing motions to 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gone."},{"message_id":"qdc06bd682b0fcb99a91f","summary_en":"kir*** recounts coming to terms with having been defrauded."},{"message_id":"qdc2df016b31bf0da8868","summary_en":"hel*** recounts previously being a zealous follower and expresses regret over falling victim to deception."}]},{"title":"Core Controversies Over Forfeiture and Restitution: Mahwah, Taurus, Distribution Timing, and Asset Priority","description":"Participants debate the mechanics of asset forfeiture, bankruptcy oversight, and whether Luc holds priority over investor restitution.","message_ids":["q9f0ae064728de815e2fc","q4f36e318b96485395e97","q19314b1695346755b8a9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9f0ae064728de815e2fc","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that Luc manipulated property documentation across criminal and bankruptcy courts to obtain disposal rights over Mahwah."},{"message_id":"q4f36e318b96485395e97","summary_en":"hel*** questions whether Luc will obtain priority over seized assets to the detriment of investor recovery."},{"message_id":"q19314b1695346755b8a9","summary_en":"chu*** argues that formal government forfeiture is an essential legal condition for investors to recover their funds."}]},{"title":"The Role of Third-Party and Private Prosecutors: Standing to Overturn Convictions Versus Protecting Rights","description":"Participants debate whether third-party filings can overturn judicial rulings or merely serve to protect and document individual rights.","message_ids":["qce7670f9f53402bdc100","q6da2335684712219cd0e","qf0af68a4d71b339a90db"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qce7670f9f53402bdc100","summary_en":"him*** contends that while third-party private filings cannot overturn a verdict, they serve to protect personal legal rights."},{"message_id":"q6da2335684712219cd0e","summary_en":"him*** argues that pursuing private claims creates a record and presents evidence to safeguard individual rights."},{"message_id":"qf0af68a4d71b339a90db","summary_en":"kir*** agrees that these dual objectives do 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等是否真有用，以及上诉期限和第三方资格能否支撑翻案。与此同时群体内部的“联盟/阵营”化加重，出现控场、维稳、拉黑与标签化冲突，导致“继续对抗”与“尽快止损”并行。后段焦点由定性争论转向没收、财产回收、破产联动与资金回补路径，司法是否政治化、系统是否失灵也成为影响后续行动是否延续的关键分歧。","guide":[{"title":"起点叙事对撞：围绕“被绑架/抹黑”与关系指认反复冲突","message_ids":["q6aa36f17ee1543202af7","q91fa302b5bc2e6594af9","qf69ebd3ea5bf1a441401"]},{"title":"社媒与案件材料被当作证据：推文/链接与PACER反复校验","message_ids":["q7b55bdca4502d2c76632","q9b66504a1b9823b7542d","q85b64ab53db80388c32c"]},{"title":"“mandate”用途与走向争议：是否关键、谁推动、是否触发再审节点","message_ids":["q54a393d0756bc647d538","q8de85e2b12628a0c6fe4","q138e3ed3d6af98559fe8"]},{"title":"程序路线分歧：从二巡未入卷猜测到 recall mandate、vacate 的反复预期","message_ids":["q7bdb24f7081d7b7d9f37","qa235766be483a437ef03","q896e3fe03d32ee944d07"]},{"title":"证据可采性与真伪争议：录音是否 AI 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最坏打算是不没收","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa674574210b9257c51cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q249363f2c576a4922b70","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa674574210b9257c51cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q062fa86362fca2b37013","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":804,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T18:03:34.737Z","text":"最好是没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q062fa86362fca2b37013","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q76077328f3f902fa73f4","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":805,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-11T18:04:31.082Z","text":"和量刑是一个道理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76077328f3f902fa73f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q33f3bfe3278d302a4a7d","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":806,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-11T18:04:49.492Z","text":"300骨干还在奶托雷斯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33f3bfe3278d302a4a7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q58930dad447c5b375a44","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":807,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-11T18:05:30.235Z","text":"但这口毒奶，量刑时已经喝了一口\n要不要继续，看托雷斯的傻x程度了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58930dad447c5b375a44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q59383f6e26a38a07d1c0","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":808,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T18:05:39.555Z","text":"傳聞沒收了不是要優先給LUC嗎？那我們的錢不是要被搶光？還是好事？請指教","edited":false,"reply_to":"q062fa86362fca2b37013","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59383f6e26a38a07d1c0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q062fa86362fca2b37013","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q46d68bd1202245aba799","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":809,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T18:06:14.954Z","text":"luc 只是签了和检方mawah的协议 不是全部的 ？ [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q59383f6e26a38a07d1c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46d68bd1202245aba799","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59383f6e26a38a07d1c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qe92328114cc6ef43cb2f","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":810,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T18:06:47.124Z","text":"一旦没收 郭案法理上推翻 你们的钱就牺牲一下吧 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59383f6e26a38a07d1c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe92328114cc6ef43cb2f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59383f6e26a38a07d1c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q95a41b806d4fc14bd073","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":811,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-11T18:07:45.048Z","text":"目前只有Mahwah看到协议","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46d68bd1202245aba799","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95a41b806d4fc14bd073","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46d68bd1202245aba799","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q3ab2298c1e234d809f2e","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":812,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T18:07:59.377Z","text":"什麼叫犧牲一下？就是給了LUC他們去瓜分？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe92328114cc6ef43cb2f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ab2298c1e234d809f2e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe92328114cc6ef43cb2f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q02dcd12ce83b8341173d","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":813,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T18:09:05.409Z","text":"对啊 为了革命 牺牲一些钱不是应该的嘛 🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ab2298c1e234d809f2e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02dcd12ce83b8341173d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ab2298c1e234d809f2e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qadce86f126aa8d9aeaab","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":814,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T18:09:30.944Z","text":"那只有gclub的钱U会被挥霍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q95a41b806d4fc14bd073","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadce86f126aa8d9aeaab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95a41b806d4fc14bd073","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qfa885ce8f31408c50928","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":815,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-08-11T18:10:08.068Z","text":"在里面犯罪的不仅被没收，还会被起诉。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q062fa86362fca2b37013","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa885ce8f31408c50928","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q062fa86362fca2b37013","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qe31e5229d4888b86ebd3","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":816,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T18:10:35.160Z","text":"那不行❌，必須拿回我的錢！如果只是象螺絲哥的一兩萬的話，我都不提了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q02dcd12ce83b8341173d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe31e5229d4888b86ebd3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02dcd12ce83b8341173d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q5f636c2ff3c337e49962","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":817,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T18:11:12.210Z","text":"你的官司赢了，卢克挥霍再多，也与你没有关系！你赢了，你百分之百拿回你的钱，郭文贵死监狱里，残渣剩饭其他人去分，行不行啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ab2298c1e234d809f2e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f636c2ff3c337e49962","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ab2298c1e234d809f2e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qd0bc8d7f85f75e7de1e2","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":818,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T18:12:57.857Z","text":"郭文貴如果連他自己都保護不了，自己連自己也救不出來的話，就是活該！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f636c2ff3c337e49962","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0bc8d7f85f75e7de1e2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f636c2ff3c337e49962","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q6ccdad351bd82ef885c6","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":819,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T18:13:36.365Z","text":"所以，郭文贵牢底坐穿，你拿回你的钱！是不是啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd0bc8d7f85f75e7de1e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ccdad351bd82ef885c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0bc8d7f85f75e7de1e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qb9386e6a1572731489a1","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":820,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T18:15:06.093Z","text":"之前群里天天在說，如果沒收之後的錢一定是先給LUC，投資者毛也分不到。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8a46d46a818359520775","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9386e6a1572731489a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qe0713c0cce9497b962b0","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":821,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T18:16:07.212Z","text":"我从来没有说过这样的话","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb9386e6a1572731489a1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0713c0cce9497b962b0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9386e6a1572731489a1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q6062c9c04e9f956f7cee","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":822,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T18:19:38.846Z","text":"郭文貴反正已經在牢里了，我當然希望優先保護自己的資產，沒毛病吧？\n把老郭幹進監獄，可不是我幹的事。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0713c0cce9497b962b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6062c9c04e9f956f7cee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0713c0cce9497b962b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q96751901dd979733cf38","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":823,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-08-11T18:22:36.936Z","text":"别幻想了。进这个群不是来保护你的财产的。进这个群就是来搅局的。\n吃一堑长一智。那一堑是己经吃进进肚子里的了，就看你还长不长一智。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6062c9c04e9f956f7cee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96751901dd979733cf38","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6062c9c04e9f956f7cee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q2ae16c8ad83734199d7e","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":824,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-08-11T18:24:07.691Z","text":"小心你想要回本钱的想法再次被联盟利用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6062c9c04e9f956f7cee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae16c8ad83734199d7e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6062c9c04e9f956f7cee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qb8e84622c47d24be8a8f","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":825,"speaker":"mrb***","date":"2026-08-11T18:24:26.796Z","text":"还有联盟吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8e84622c47d24be8a8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q37a35ba964fd558cf24a","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":826,"speaker":"mrb***","date":"2026-08-11T18:24:54.969Z","text":"这联盟还算之前联盟吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37a35ba964fd558cf24a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qfce391fe9a6fa60c4983","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":827,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-08-11T18:26:59.347Z","text":"什么大便联盟，就几个传销组织的诈骗犯？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q37a35ba964fd558cf24a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfce391fe9a6fa60c4983","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37a35ba964fd558cf24a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q372353b719c0427dfe5e","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":828,"speaker":"mrb***","date":"2026-08-11T18:27:23.869Z","text":"那不是么，无利不起早的家伙们","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfce391fe9a6fa60c4983","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q372353b719c0427dfe5e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfce391fe9a6fa60c4983","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q645071e0abda274beaab","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":829,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T18:27:43.713Z","text":"说这话你自己觉得逻辑上对吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6062c9c04e9f956f7cee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q645071e0abda274beaab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6062c9c04e9f956f7cee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q4e785fd3d2253b7b576d","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":830,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T18:27:51.472Z","text":"跟了老郭這麼多年，付出時間金錢，心太累，我不想繼續了。只想好好過自己的小日子。\n\n只想忘掉這些糟心的人，忘掉這些糟心的事。\n\n離開聯盟後感覺外面處處是好人，在騙子窩里這麼久，太累啦！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qda75f77ddc07cbd1563f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e785fd3d2253b7b576d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q70759753f7addf7aa5bc","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":831,"speaker":"mrb***","date":"2026-08-11T18:28:42.947Z","text":"真的太累了，每天还要迎合哪些所谓站在道德立场上的累赘。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e785fd3d2253b7b576d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70759753f7addf7aa5bc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e785fd3d2253b7b576d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qf3bbd2a2520ec25454e3","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":832,"speaker":"mrb***","date":"2026-08-11T18:29:17.455Z","text":"配合它们的表演，有时候觉得它们都可以进军好莱坞了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3bbd2a2520ec25454e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qc7a05f258e5c9360a5b4","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":833,"speaker":"mrb***","date":"2026-08-11T18:29:26.697Z","text":"一个个的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7a05f258e5c9360a5b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q9de5a2833fcbcea865b6","batch_id":"batch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贵是诈骗犯！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42a252b738247af4ad58","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q458d701babe5786d91b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42a252b738247af4ad58","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qeed139db6587902fd163","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":845,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T18:40:37.944Z","text":"目前程序上郭文貴不是已經被定罪量刑了嗎？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7abf1888e5a5e252ec1a","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeed139db6587902fd163","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q7c6c5542aec902336e00","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":846,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T18:41:42.928Z","text":"郭文贵可以上诉！\n\n你的钱，不能退！因为郭文贵上诉。因为第三方纠纷！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeed139db6587902fd163","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c6c5542aec902336e00","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeed139db6587902fd163","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q88ad40d3109877be601b","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":847,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T18:48:42.930Z","text":"SBF案子，那些债权人，拿回自己的钱，是高兴啊？还是后悔啊？通过法庭合法拿回了百分之一百零几的钱。比你853n拿回百分之百还多几个点。但是，如果没有刑事案件破产案，他们赚的更多！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88ad40d3109877be601b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qa7cd34763544155ca714","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":848,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-08-11T18:50:50.080Z","text":"跟着伪联盟诈骗犯继续犯罪就是[屏蔽词]，他们发行诈骗币的时候很多人不是已经禁告别再被骗了。看紧自己的钱包。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q73fd0370e3d9a8882290","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7cd34763544155ca714","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q039ec3f453780c41872f","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":849,"speaker":"mrb***","date":"2026-08-11T18:55:37.015Z","text":"那还好，我没有被骗过一分钱，很多人都是我点醒它们的，我的钱包也是保管好的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7cd34763544155ca714","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q039ec3f453780c41872f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7cd34763544155ca714","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q05368983fc1f59fe7243","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":850,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T18:58:24.051Z","text":"我一直在說害怕托雷斯推進沒收程序！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05368983fc1f59fe7243","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q19314b1695346755b8a9","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":851,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T18:59:29.743Z","text":"你没有搞清楚一个前提，不没收，你就百分之百不能合法拿回你的钱！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b539123249db6cf6cd2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19314b1695346755b8a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q43aac4e8ba4915d3e098","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":852,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-08-11T18:59:56.891Z","text":"那就好，别再被骗了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q039ec3f453780c41872f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43aac4e8ba4915d3e098","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q039ec3f453780c41872f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q954aed319a15bcc6c466","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":853,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T19:02:36.611Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]你还没有搞清楚啊？\n推进没收程序，你才能拿回你的钱！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q954aed319a15bcc6c466","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qb13e8c6c740b7f5662fa","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":854,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T19:05:26.897Z","text":"你别万一！你要钱，就必须推没收！\n不没收，谁都别拿钱！\n你一边要钱，一边反对法庭把钱退给你！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb13e8c6c740b7f5662fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q12e735480b67f91fd069","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":855,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T19:07:28.144Z","text":"卢克抢不到你的钱！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12e735480b67f91fd069","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qce7938b469dfc73e53aa","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":856,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T19:07:30.515Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]卢克与你的钱，没有任何关系！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce7938b469dfc73e53aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q2bc09a3ea95ec56a12d7","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":857,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T19:08:53.834Z","text":"推进没收，与你的钱没有关系！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bc09a3ea95ec56a12d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q9390cb9485a35d773876","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":858,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T19:11:15.872Z","text":"你根本不是[删节：成员身份],你就是受害者！","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4776581a4cdb8e903e29","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9390cb9485a35d773876","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q99d7f803d8d435eec0b1","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":859,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T19:12:11.114Z","text":"天天说卢克拿走所有钱的是Q那个人！我从来没有说过。那个Q,也没有自诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd4f4b62e339dfb6c20cd","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99d7f803d8d435eec0b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qb4c671d67a4a21e1474b","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":860,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-08-11T19:13:10.463Z","text":"还在討论没收问提，钱不是已经被美国政府没收啦，接下来是自已问美国政府要。还不明白啊！😇","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4c671d67a4a21e1474b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q4bf3f06ce08d1c867317","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":861,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T19:13:13.083Z","text":"對！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99d7f803d8d435eec0b1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bf3f06ce08d1c867317","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99d7f803d8d435eec0b1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q0ca6b14b5d23f41395a8","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":862,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T19:15:08.959Z","text":"現在是凍結狀態，之前開展過沒收令，後來又停了。這次量刑後不知道會不會強推沒收。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4c671d67a4a21e1474b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ca6b14b5d23f41395a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4c671d67a4a21e1474b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q76cc1f1bf1ff441e2f0c","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":863,"speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-08-11T19:18:36.867Z","text":"你别跟我来这套，你在墙内不跟你计较，至于我的钱必须由我来决定。你怎样我管不着。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d267ca62a3a6dd65cc3","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76cc1f1bf1ff441e2f0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q3260fa1002ee8386edb2","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":864,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T19:19:20.691Z","text":"托雷斯不推进没收，这个案件就永远无法结束！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60377b536d04d896ba63","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3260fa1002ee8386edb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qdb21d1438e6b12a95d5a","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":865,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T19:19:29.428Z","text":"你怎么证明那一笔钱是你的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60377b536d04d896ba63","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb21d1438e6b12a95d5a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q55f682e65c52dc6df115","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":866,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T19:21:21.600Z","text":"你纯属胡扯蛋。没收推进，你就去说话就行！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60a745ccd86bbd3d3a2d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55f682e65c52dc6df115","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q633d5d21497e7084965c","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":867,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T19:29:26.918Z","text":"案子翻了还能没收？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe92328114cc6ef43cb2f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q633d5d21497e7084965c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe92328114cc6ef43cb2f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q25b7708ed291c729a40f","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":868,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:29:44.955Z","text":"法律论证上翻了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q633d5d21497e7084965c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b7708ed291c729a40f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q633d5d21497e7084965c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qba808a2cd25398c1dd7f","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":869,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T19:30:07.918Z","text":"论证有毛用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q25b7708ed291c729a40f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba808a2cd25398c1dd7f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b7708ed291c729a40f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q30c36fca054a182bd096","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":870,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T19:30:30.366Z","text":"起码人得恢复自由，既然无罪为什么还能没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30c36fca054a182bd096","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qa5a7e963a9097ea8919c","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":871,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:30:51.919Z","text":"现在就连第三方都还没论证到彻底推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":"qba808a2cd25398c1dd7f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5a7e963a9097ea8919c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba808a2cd25398c1dd7f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q3217accc46e58d8c89c0","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":872,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-08-11T19:31:55.203Z","text":"什么叫跟老郭这么多年？\n你爱跟不跟。\n好像他欠了你什么似的。他收了你一分钱吗？找收了你钱的人算帐去。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e785fd3d2253b7b576d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3217accc46e58d8c89c0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e785fd3d2253b7b576d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qcc917bcea960330d0ae8","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":873,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T19:42:27.938Z","text":"要回钱是绝大部分人参与自诉的重要源动力，但到法庭纯粹要钱不提程序问题，不帮老郭说话，那就等同于催法庭开没收，而不是阻止法庭没收。只有找出程序问题才能让没收进行不下去，让老郭无罪，他出来才可能退钱。我这理解有毛病吗？ [删节：隐私信息]  [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q76d22e8c281aa011cb83","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc917bcea960330d0ae8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qf348dd5c816b59376a32","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":874,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T19:44:19.120Z","text":"要钱是853 n 身份的门票。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf348dd5c816b59376a32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qeb054b4edd48a6a8e9a0","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":875,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:45:08.512Z","text":"说的对。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc917bcea960330d0ae8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb054b4edd48a6a8e9a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc917bcea960330d0ae8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q41bfa22a661ca0289c10","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":876,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T19:45:12.515Z","text":"853只能提钱的问题，但是可以以要钱的名义挑程序的毛病，我当初就这么搞的。当时都认为受害者是坑郭，都不想用受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf348dd5c816b59376a32","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41bfa22a661ca0289c10","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf348dd5c816b59376a32","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q203a112f9909ff2b746a","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":877,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:45:39.643Z","text":"用要钱的名义进去 然后提程序问题 反向污染所有程序","edited":false,"reply_to":"q41bfa22a661ca0289c10","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q203a112f9909ff2b746a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41bfa22a661ca0289c10","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qca041e46a6953ae6129c","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":878,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:45:55.485Z","text":"所以受害者进去干这个是最好的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q41bfa22a661ca0289c10","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca041e46a6953ae6129c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41bfa22a661ca0289c10","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q1063f323afb76a667ab3","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":879,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:46:20.155Z","text":"等于说我们是植入程序的病毒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1063f323afb76a667ab3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q049d553fad7d75daf717","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":880,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:46:46.486Z","text":"病毒 你得伪装 才能进去感染","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q049d553fad7d75daf717","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q6825ba315816b8d4820a","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":881,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:46:53.443Z","text":"要钱就是你的伪装","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6825ba315816b8d4820a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qc098a1efdbfb0471862e","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":882,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T19:47:21.912Z","text":"853n與受害者同時引用會怎樣呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc098a1efdbfb0471862e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qa273e253d688b4097bd9","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":883,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T19:48:14.220Z","text":"我的ai说853和受害者不冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc098a1efdbfb0471862e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa273e253d688b4097bd9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc098a1efdbfb0471862e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qe368271570c406752cdb","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":884,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:48:15.033Z","text":"引用得当不会怎么样","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc098a1efdbfb0471862e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe368271570c406752cdb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc098a1efdbfb0471862e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qf0af68a4d71b339a90db","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":885,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:48:26.089Z","text":"某一个角度确实不冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa273e253d688b4097bd9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0af68a4d71b339a90db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa273e253d688b4097bd9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q815d97a627bab53858ee","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":886,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T19:48:42.589Z","text":"我的AI也是這樣說的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa273e253d688b4097bd9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q815d97a627bab53858ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa273e253d688b4097bd9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q1705e40acddf1a1bb60a","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":887,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:48:57.568Z","text":"853要钱 受害者打程序问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1705e40acddf1a1bb60a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qdbd815081b66f844c8bd","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":888,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T19:49:08.883Z","text":"我的强制令就提到了我是853同时我引用3771要求享受受害者的合法权力，照样也给我立案了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbd815081b66f844c8bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q6d27962d1b0e9e069e50","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":889,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:49:18.085Z","text":"这是可以的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d27962d1b0e9e069e50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q4d3225b44a8ed8d4c108","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":890,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T19:49:31.069Z","text":"我的也一樣。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdbd815081b66f844c8bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d3225b44a8ed8d4c108","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbd815081b66f844c8bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qa9a00d0f4aa36205ebc7","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":891,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T19:49:54.639Z","text":"二巡也没话说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d3225b44a8ed8d4c108","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9a00d0f4aa36205ebc7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d3225b44a8ed8d4c108","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qf496a2113519d97acbbc","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":892,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T19:50:24.170Z","text":"但是案子目前阶段，一切以程序不正义为目标，因为二巡就是管这个的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf496a2113519d97acbbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q261b8438db308af911f8","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":893,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T19:50:36.103Z","text":"二巡也立了案。沒說什麼。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa9a00d0f4aa36205ebc7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q261b8438db308af911f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9a00d0f4aa36205ebc7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q76fba92a1c45013340df","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":894,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T19:52:09.962Z","text":"包括没收本身就建立在不健全的程序上，受害者认定，诈骗金额确认，主权冲突，问题数不过来，本身就是一个严重的程序不正义","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76fba92a1c45013340df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q65ca34fdbf6fc3ed84bf","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":895,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T19:52:56.938Z","text":"要是开没收，就是最大的程序违规，二巡应该立刻叫停","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65ca34fdbf6fc3ed84bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q664c27a54c9d12a24b55","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":896,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:57:23.983Z","text":"开没收 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这个案子法律上就必须推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe63e8ed7c6de036191b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q891a7d091c2c4f11df77","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":898,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:58:34.559Z","text":"第三方就可以推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q891a7d091c2c4f11df77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qe37d61ba2cf9d1c8f871","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":899,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:58:41.632Z","text":"还等你主律师来干什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe37d61ba2cf9d1c8f871","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q701ff55b32d5ea3635bd","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":900,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T19:59:08.388Z","text":"法律允许你可以推翻的时候因为律师不到位 无限拖延？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q701ff55b32d5ea3635bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q758110cedd7a98f49832","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":901,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:05:52.645Z","text":"我有两次和郭对话的经历后，彻底明白了当时的农场经营管理人员全是海外的特务。没有特务身份或者特务身份太低都不可能让你作农场管理人员，比如我知道某东南亚地区一代一路项目人，申请农场都说不够格。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q758110cedd7a98f49832","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qa06cf4ab5d1c89ce3196","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":902,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T20:07:24.951Z","text":"詐騙金額不詳實，還有鳳凰農場九指、夏其東手上的錢的去向不明，請求開聽證會讓他們倆來作證。所以，反對現在開啓沒收！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q76fba92a1c45013340df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa06cf4ab5d1c89ce3196","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76fba92a1c45013340df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q2b7b2389966e2acb3889","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":903,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:09:05.798Z","text":"我在2019年的时候 通过他们的行为就知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q758110cedd7a98f49832","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b7b2389966e2acb3889","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q758110cedd7a98f49832","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qd7df92ba2303d3afd424","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":904,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:09:12.001Z","text":"投资者拿不回钱的原因是检方和luc共谋，通过没收把钱瓜分完了，然后污蔑老郭诈骗投资者。这个逻辑你得搞清楚。现在第三方折腾包括老郭上诉就是因为这个。你要是那么想，那你纯粹是来掺沙子的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42a252b738247af4ad58","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7df92ba2303d3afd424","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42a252b738247af4ad58","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q393c5eb4aec14280857a","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":905,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T20:11:25.619Z","text":"摻什麼沙子，我生氣發發牢騷，不行嗎？\n自訴人都有自己的獨立思想，誰也別想左右誰。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd7df92ba2303d3afd424","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q393c5eb4aec14280857a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7df92ba2303d3afd424","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q17d59dd403021a971fae","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":906,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-08-11T20:12:21.760Z","text":"这个群谁都不欠谁的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q393c5eb4aec14280857a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17d59dd403021a971fae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q393c5eb4aec14280857a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qf0d18f24449c99b8df5f","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":907,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:12:50.842Z","text":"反正给你解释清楚了，翻案才是最大概率能拿回钱的路径，你怎么想我也管不着","edited":false,"reply_to":"q393c5eb4aec14280857a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0d18f24449c99b8df5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q393c5eb4aec14280857a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q31fea6afdf83c4873a2f","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":908,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T20:13:27.893Z","text":"你們太聰明啦，我如果早醒早知是這樣，肯定不會投錢，滅共可以，一分不投。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b7b2389966e2acb3889","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31fea6afdf83c4873a2f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b7b2389966e2acb3889","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q5d3cba6af2c4f4ceb211","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":909,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:13:43.391Z","text":"老郭翻不了案，钱肯定被luc们抢光了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d3cba6af2c4f4ceb211","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q1a20c89fbd774e958bed","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":910,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T20:15:45.789Z","text":"有說你欠嗎？我非常感謝各位在自訴路上的幫助，不然沒法寫好自訴。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17d59dd403021a971fae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a20c89fbd774e958bed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17d59dd403021a971fae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qcdd21469f756423f63b4","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":911,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:20:41.811Z","text":"担心钱正常，但是如果托雷斯要强没收，谁也没辙，只能继续上诉，就跟强行量刑一样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70842b7ead99941905bd","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdd21469f756423f63b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q03f4b714174e097f21b7","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":912,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:21:56.082Z","text":"只能用法律手段去打，好在美国法律给了投资人做独立第三方的权力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03f4b714174e097f21b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qcdfec709f3218df1b40d","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":913,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:25:21.988Z","text":"你还没适应这个群里的氛围，这个群里不讲道德，只讲事实和证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfeda3b9e3544fe9ac49b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https: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n說的是無辜的第三方，\n我們可能嚴格講並不適用，只能算作跟隨者投資者，被害者。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0c761d1eb0428051d46c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45a9f68dbe60c625e1ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c761d1eb0428051d46c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q0a614913233d23071338","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":917,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:31:07.451Z","text":"他意思就是你要么推翻案子，让老郭退你钱，要么就等着法庭没收，司法部给你退点零钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q897dc274306d1d4f0178","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a614913233d23071338","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q4f6f43442e30756dd4a0","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":918,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:32:01.315Z","text":"那就引用cvra，反正是上动议的机会","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45a9f68dbe60c625e1ce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f6f43442e30756dd4a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45a9f68dbe60c625e1ce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q3afbec72c975ff78d367","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":919,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:32:23.635Z","text":"她在消耗你们的精力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a614913233d23071338","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3afbec72c975ff78d367","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a614913233d23071338","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qa1e4360dd4dfdd10b989","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":920,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:32:43.362Z","text":"［用户 lon***］ 既然你对郭的战略有很早的理解 那么你觉得 蒋干战略是否达到老郭的预期？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1e4360dd4dfdd10b989","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qdef4291cffef5031eeaa","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":921,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:32:59.938Z","text":"八千人大会，都没听说过，是哪年的事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1bfaae0e07a206706eda","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdef4291cffef5031eeaa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qc78ae940d395ee3110ee","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":922,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:33:15.993Z","text":"超过了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc78ae940d395ee3110ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q66bc793b82eb3f03d00f","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":923,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:33:28.635Z","text":"哦？怎么说","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc78ae940d395ee3110ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66bc793b82eb3f03d00f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc78ae940d395ee3110ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q848da33fce70861ce2e5","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":924,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:33:33.294Z","text":"VOG的时代","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdef4291cffef5031eeaa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q848da33fce70861ce2e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdef4291cffef5031eeaa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q595a4b5cd517cb10e182","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":925,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:33:34.453Z","text":"随便，我从羊群里过来的人，还是比较有耐心的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f5ec3ad3795f317e3ec","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q595a4b5cd517cb10e182","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qe9f68a99dc292d2b7312","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":926,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:34:01.195Z","text":"我是18年底听直播，19年才知道有vog","edited":false,"reply_to":"q848da33fce70861ce2e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9f68a99dc292d2b7312","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q848da33fce70861ce2e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q6584ed9d536b74c1d608","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":927,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:34:24.212Z","text":"已经把共产党订在了美国的司法里了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q66bc793b82eb3f03d00f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6584ed9d536b74c1d608","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66bc793b82eb3f03d00f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qe1ec86ee82f2a70034f3","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":928,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:34:43.822Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  这个理解一致","edited":true,"reply_to":"q6584ed9d536b74c1d608","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1ec86ee82f2a70034f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6584ed9d536b74c1d608","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q06418b083eb6032c82fc","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":929,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:34:57.230Z","text":"周瑜没打过蒋干？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc78ae940d395ee3110ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06418b083eb6032c82fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc78ae940d395ee3110ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qbc1cfdae79522a7af5de","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":930,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:35:25.282Z","text":"共产党也知道他在干什么 就把他弄到根本出不来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3dc503a916e94a9db7a4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc1cfdae79522a7af5de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q052748b515c378338d38","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":931,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:35:27.340Z","text":"应该是正在钉吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6584ed9d536b74c1d608","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q052748b515c378338d38","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6584ed9d536b74c1d608","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qd370b80f39d3fb15b37a","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":932,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:35:37.774Z","text":"博弈都是动态的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd370b80f39d3fb15b37a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qa8f1befd48c16cafee50","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":933,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T20:35:47.477Z","text":"我聽過九指那次關於寫遺書的會議。每次都有人說沙拉姐偉大，沙拉姐每次都說給你們自由⋯⋯🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdef4291cffef5031eeaa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8f1befd48c16cafee50","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdef4291cffef5031eeaa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qcce960fae2b8c28415e4","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":934,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:35:55.707Z","text":"它不敢抓人说明它知道老郭要干啥了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcce960fae2b8c28415e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qdae1d280b943abeaba2b","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":935,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:36:22.098Z","text":"以前抓的人 他们也收不回去了 迟早爆雷","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcce960fae2b8c28415e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdae1d280b943abeaba2b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcce960fae2b8c28415e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qda14ef31e61af6ec2bf3","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":936,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:36:25.868Z","text":"他是想感化他们，结果将干都是死士🤣为钱的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06418b083eb6032c82fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda14ef31e61af6ec2bf3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06418b083eb6032c82fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q43b0640bc39f3e6f8ee7","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":937,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:36:57.322Z","text":"我认为郭的爆料革命现在来说 是失败的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qda14ef31e61af6ec2bf3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43b0640bc39f3e6f8ee7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda14ef31e61af6ec2bf3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q1cee310cb1fdecef993e","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":938,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:37:08.647Z","text":"因为联盟农场 一个人都没有被他转化的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cee310cb1fdecef993e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q8ca8a84c5621da2408ed","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":939,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:37:18.175Z","text":"已经完成了，宣判那一刻起","edited":false,"reply_to":"q052748b515c378338d38","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ca8a84c5621da2408ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q052748b515c378338d38","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qf024d1c0d82110a0ea7e","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":940,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:37:28.974Z","text":"郭如果能把长岛这些人转换一个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf024d1c0d82110a0ea7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q0e493ae6e4509f8369d4","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":941,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:37:35.835Z","text":"那就是成功","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e493ae6e4509f8369d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q8cbb74ab4b3027a56918","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":942,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:38:12.692Z","text":"他现在希望他们转污点证人，我猜的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cbb74ab4b3027a56918","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q358674284f37b974e62e","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":943,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:38:19.871Z","text":"宣判算是打开一道缝吧，那会螺丝都还没开悟呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ca8a84c5621da2408ed","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q358674284f37b974e62e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ca8a84c5621da2408ed","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q94115c534fa37216be3a","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":944,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:38:57.156Z","text":"第三方上去后 他们所有退路全部没了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8cbb74ab4b3027a56918","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94115c534fa37216be3a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cbb74ab4b3027a56918","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qc16a3f1bb0011eb91dca","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":945,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:39:01.218Z","text":"事实再次验证了党性超过了人性","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e493ae6e4509f8369d4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc16a3f1bb0011eb91dca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e493ae6e4509f8369d4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qb3ffa9a8a9063900a148","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":946,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:39:07.122Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc16a3f1bb0011eb91dca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3ffa9a8a9063900a148","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc16a3f1bb0011eb91dca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qba7b80cf41dfaf21b779","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":947,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:39:25.439Z","text":"那一刻永远的订下了，任何人想去掉都不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba7b80cf41dfaf21b779","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q85c2a699af42cfe08974","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":948,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:39:41.255Z","text":"第三方可不是老郭这么仁慈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85c2a699af42cfe08974","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q7c08af5ee05e07dfc678","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":949,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:40:13.050Z","text":"这点我认同，我觉得应该在这个春节前后开始","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaf3f54819f8df4f9ec21","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c08af5ee05e07dfc678","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q02afeec3da0338d89e56","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":950,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T20:41:35.820Z","text":"你不是還要留下[删节：隐私信息]嗎？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q897aec655a5ed2f15dca","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02afeec3da0338d89e56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qd4a488c2a1af43e4253e","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":951,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:42:04.013Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]和[删节：隐私信息] 那不是一个级别的😆","edited":true,"reply_to":"q02afeec3da0338d89e56","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4a488c2a1af43e4253e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02afeec3da0338d89e56","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q83b0ab09b12e5da27938","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":952,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:43:13.007Z","text":"老郭给够机会了 现在屠刀在第三方手上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46af0695cb3a1218fe13","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83b0ab09b12e5da27938","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qc75528506d4176c2ae84","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":953,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:43:20.647Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc75528506d4176c2ae84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q64d0031b340141bfeff0","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":954,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:43:24.451Z","text":"第三方不会有任何仁慈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64d0031b340141bfeff0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qc24bcce54cc5d7b1a541","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":955,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:43:50.907Z","text":"给了好几次机会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc24bcce54cc5d7b1a541","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q327b7306091019369b5d","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":956,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T20:44:14.170Z","text":"现在是第三方抢走了老郭手上的屠刀","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc24bcce54cc5d7b1a541","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q327b7306091019369b5d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc24bcce54cc5d7b1a541","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q1c24b0b26b7b93d4afb1","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":957,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T20:44:24.866Z","text":"没毛病","edited":false,"reply_to":"q76d975b5e8cc5adcac70","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c24b0b26b7b93d4afb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qa7fcef9b5265ec0f0d72","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":958,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:45:33.657Z","text":"我知道的人在欧洲目前无儿无女，这事结束了，他们都会帮忙解决问题的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7fcef9b5265ec0f0d72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qa2795ad87525e1a7e22d","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":959,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-11T20:47:51.421Z","text":"那老郭还一直在让大家投资，那些畜牲谁会相信，还不是信了老郭，他把普通人支持他的人也一起带入深渊，钱都被特务搞走他自己也进了监狱，他钓鱼把信他的无辜的人都搞惨了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q758110cedd7a98f49832","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2795ad87525e1a7e22d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q758110cedd7a98f49832","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q104fb1aee5643422034a","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":960,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T20:48:56.369Z","text":"吳徵、沈南朋、單偉建都還沒有被抓，哪里到哪兒呀！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q104fb1aee5643422034a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q7307fcf977183079821e","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":961,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T20:49:40.253Z","text":"有空多看看风神榜、还有天道，看明白点就不会问这个问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa2795ad87525e1a7e22d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7307fcf977183079821e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2795ad87525e1a7e22d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q9a1b37264aafe13b59a6","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":962,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T20:50:27.457Z","text":"我認同，所以才生他的氣。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa2795ad87525e1a7e22d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a1b37264aafe13b59a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2795ad87525e1a7e22d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qf6450c8958b76b00d8e9","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":963,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-11T20:51:22.292Z","text":"請稍微解讀解讀嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7307fcf977183079821e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeite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n 身份的门票。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabb2b1783ef7066dbd92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q69ba283f75364b8ddc67","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":969,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T21:51:40.449Z","text":"https://x.com/thetruth30342/status/2086931866154602813?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69ba283f75364b8ddc67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q500870feebaaceb7c4e9","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":970,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T21:52:50.700Z","text":"看人家法轮功，谁被迫害被抓，记载的清清楚楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q500870feebaaceb7c4e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q1428d8b9d02541840e5d","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":971,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-11T22:09:02.789Z","text":"716前我几乎一无所知，连被踢的资格都没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q37eddf1cf1e41cbd271c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1428d8b9d02541840e5d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37eddf1cf1e41cbd271c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qeb47a718502272e40ccd","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":972,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T22:35:35.198Z","text":"爆料革命有没有被抓的，有。之前在美国小李手上就应该有三个人，草根应该也知道两个，其它的不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q69ba283f75364b8ddc67","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb47a718502272e40ccd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69ba283f75364b8ddc67","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q9abd941cebf5604ff7e7","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":973,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-11T22:42:51.958Z","text":"https://x.com/chenchenfox9/status/2087296836373496299?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9abd941cebf5604ff7e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q5fab3f1c9f7d43dcf415","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":974,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-11T22:49:55.153Z","text":"被抓的人，只在各种听说里面","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb47a718502272e40ccd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fab3f1c9f7d43dcf415","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb47a718502272e40ccd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q9097525d06157316e949","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":975,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-08-11T22:56:53.216Z","text":"我只听过一个人女的，她本人被抓三年，可惜她不信我🤣🤣要不到任何证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9097525d06157316e949","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q77f610d423d66208db18","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":976,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-11T23:44:44.877Z","text":"联盟和盖尔都是天天说卢克拿钱多，说卢克要把所有钱都花了，有用吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99d7f803d8d435eec0b1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77f610d423d66208db18","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99d7f803d8d435eec0b1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qd3cfdf1c08c2b057b43e","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":977,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-11T23:46:12.490Z","text":"这案子想分钱还早呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3cfdf1c08c2b057b43e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"qa52cb916ce20b0b2bcd0","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":978,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-11T23:46:54.294Z","text":"案子不搞清楚，有人敢分钱有人敢拿钱啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa52cb916ce20b0b2bcd0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144"},{"id":"q212a17e9f8516bcf194b","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":979,"speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-08-11T23:49:08.638Z","text":"請問各位前賢我的853n到現在南區都沒有docked，它會拿什麼做藉口不docked","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attach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