{"id":"batch-000154","number":154,"revision":3,"date_start":"2026-08-27T19:13:53.610Z","date_end":"2026-08-31T07:30:31.598Z","total_messages":981,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 154 (Aug 27, 2026 – Aug 31, 2026), 981 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Across Aug 27, 2026–Aug 31, 2026, batch-000154 discussions focused on G Club ownership using case 23-cr-118 materials, including Dkt.597 and Yvette Wang’s ECF 488, to challenge claims that all inflows were Guo-controlled. Participants debated whether bankruptcy outcomes and criminal forfeiture under §853(n) should diverge over G Club assets, and whether 858 claims justify treating those assets as personal. Disputes repeatedly returned to service, standing, and evidence reliability, while no unified finding emerged. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"New petition and accounting materials shifted property focus: clear separation of Guo, Haoran He, and G Club","description":"roy*** argues the newly surfaced filing reframed ownership questions by distinguishing Guo, Haoran He, and G Club, and the thread uses that distinction to structure later disputes over control. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q44475a3dc6d2810a6d94"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q44475a3dc6d2810a6d94","summary_en":"roy*** said a new sworn petition in 23-cr-118 (Dkt.597, Apr 4, 2025) by G Club Operations LLC separated role tiers and described the disputed funds as member payments, not Defendant/Guo personal assets, while citing Yvette Wang’s ECF 488 and a §853(c) relation-back framing. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"\"Member funds are not Guo’s personal assets\" versus the later 858 model, and whether this can support Guo’s direct control of all inflows remains disputed","description":"roy*** contends the member-funds claim narrows direct-control attribution, while others dispute extending that evidence into a full 858-style assertion that Guo controlled every inflow. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q44475a3dc6d2810a6d94","qcb60e9d3c1de684106e1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q44475a3dc6d2810a6d94","summary_en":"roy*** argued that the newly cited 23-cr-118 petition distinguished layered ownership and supported a reading that these funds were not automatically Defendant/Guo personal assets, making blanket boss-control assumptions contestable. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qcb60e9d3c1de684106e1","summary_en":"roy*** claimed a government-supplied chain links account-level actors (including Alex/Reyes, He, and Ziyang) with Guo mainly in strategic approval roles, and he argued that 858 cannot infer total personal control without account-by-account proof across every transaction bridge. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Control disputes were split into UBO, signature, and account-operations chains; Roy says Guo is a strategic influencer rather than a day-to-day operator","description":"roy*** argues direct indicators point to other controllers, while still claiming Guo’s role is primarily strategic influence, making the legal boundary between direct control and final influence the core dispute. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qcb60e9d3c1de684106e1","qb4abd3d5e20e33435e2d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qcb60e9d3c1de684106e1","summary_en":"roy*** said account and signed-control evidence shows specific chains of operational authority, and that treating those links as proof Guo controlled all gross inflows would require additional proof beyond the current documents. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qb4abd3d5e20e33435e2d","summary_en":"roy*** stated that direct financial-control records most strongly indicate HEX/Hamilton-level operators, while Guo is argued to be only an indirect, strategic influence; the unresolved issue is whether that amounts to personal ownership control. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether G Club is Guo’s alter ego and included in consolidation is contested, with restitution and forfeiture priorities still colliding","description":"him*** claims bankruptcy materials have not proved alter-ego status or comprehensive ownership by Guo, and participants dispute whether assets should go to Luc versus forfeiture or victim-remission channels. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qb3455f123a1daadac459","q3a662966aa0ea809d8df","q8c809be1c8cb9c08c2ef"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qb3455f123a1daadac459","summary_en":"him*** stated that bankruptcy proceedings have not established that the G series entities are Guo’s alter ego. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3a662966aa0ea809d8df","summary_en":"him*** argued that in bankruptcy, the judge identified only the estate called \"Mava Manor\" as tied to Guo and did not accept that all G Club property had been proven as Guo property. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8c809be1c8cb9c08c2ef","summary_en":"him*** said the current bankruptcy opposition motion targets Luc’s failure to prove all G Club assets belonged to Guo. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"In the criminal-bankruptcy overlap, whether Luc’s handling of G Club assets affects the §853(n) compensation route became a core split","description":"him*** disputes the priority question, asserting that if G Club assets are moved under Luc the criminal restitution path is harmed, while others imply bankruptcy actions can still intersect only through criminal-motion timing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q6d8710f1b0015f27ab97","q1d4a9784603735f7d3f2","qe8698ff45621f5652778"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6d8710f1b0015f27ab97","summary_en":"him*** claimed that where a §853(n) motion or remission request exists in criminal court, G Club assets remain relevant, and this necessarily entangles the bankruptcy court. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1d4a9784603735f7d3f2","summary_en":"him*** warned that if G Club assets are allocated to Luc, G Club members may be left without funds in criminal §853(n) proceedings. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qe8698ff45621f5652778","summary_en":"him*** argued that G Club should not distribute to Luc but instead route assets toward the criminal court and §853(n) claimants or remission beneficiaries. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Litigation shifted to service: whether subpoenas were issued, to whom, and whether substitute or public service is valid remains repeatedly disputed","description":"kir*** disputes procedural compliance by repeatedly contesting service facts and arguing that effective participation depends on proper, identifiable delivery. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf2e15a7d5ab2996b3612","q4b86b366940cb34a60a9","qfe921dddec69598f4584"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf2e15a7d5ab2996b3612","summary_en":"kir*** argued that the opposing side had not even issued a subpoena. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4b86b366940cb34a60a9","summary_en":"kir*** repeated the subpoena dispute, saying even after an appeal stage and multiple sanctions there was still no real response. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfe921dddec69598f4584","summary_en":"kir*** again challenged the opponent by asking directly where the subpoena was. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Dispute over claims targets and standing persisted over whether Zhang Yongbing and his firm were first to serve and who can represent the case","description":"Participants contend that unclear defendant identification and authority to speak undercut early motions, with recurring disputes over where the action was properly directed. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qaf91cc366b585b9e42f8","q41b9cbd084943c6c6988","qf367d058c62f30ee1495"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qaf91cc366b585b9e42f8","summary_en":"hah*** questioned whether the Southern District matter had any direct link to lawsuits against the chat group. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q41b9cbd084943c6c6988","summary_en":"kir*** disputed the thread by saying the complainant did not seem to know whom they were suing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf367d058c62f30ee1495","summary_en":"kir*** observed that when Tony and the forfeiture procedure were raised, participants claimed another user deflected by shifting the topic. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Refund and recovery routes were split: GTV/Farm loan/SEC possibilities and whether returns should go by original channel, after termination, or directly to personal accounts were all disputed","description":"wen*** and other participants dispute where refund entitlement lies, with one side requesting a direct return and another asking for the original payment route but lacking a clear recipient. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3a5e7cf64aca51709636","q122ff2c7ad97f8f92bb8","q0a70bf1d7cb3b055c1ad"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3a5e7cf64aca51709636","summary_en":"kir*** expressed uncertainty about the applicable refund mechanism. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q122ff2c7ad97f8f92bb8","summary_en":"wen*** stated a clear claim for a refund from the opposing parties. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0a70bf1d7cb3b055c1ad","summary_en":"wen*** said they wanted refunds through the original flow channel but did not know whom to contact. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Source reliability was disputed as social-media screenshots and reposts dominated, while parties lacked consistent standards for verification and admissibility","description":"ntp*** and spr*** argue that much evidence is social-media based and contend that authenticity, context, and evidentiary weight remain contested across the thread. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qfe8c476d98e660aa8751","q674d727973a1a7265bfa","qd8b12807d8ff2738ef7f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qfe8c476d98e660aa8751","summary_en":"ntp*** questioned whether two posted social updates were the same item, using them as a basis for evidence scrutiny. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q674d727973a1a7265bfa","summary_en":"ntp*** posted a social-media video reference as part of the evidence discussion. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd8b12807d8ff2738ef7f","summary_en":"spr*** posted another social-media reference in the same evidentiary context. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Identity and motive narratives expanded, with labeling around real names, leadership figures, and political motives crowding out core legal reasoning","description":"him***, kir***, and may*** contend that motive and identity narratives are being used to frame opponents, and the thread disputes these labels versus evidence-based analysis. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q74030c5ac317f08996e4","q72b0a259b65c065dae47","qfc75c3ce230b4ec374e8"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q74030c5ac317f08996e4","summary_en":"him*** claimed the broader case purpose was politically driven by characterizing it as an attempt to \"destroy Communists.\" Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q72b0a259b65c065dae47","summary_en":"kir*** insisted that further discussion should wait until official process documents, especially a subpoena, were actually produced. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfc75c3ce230b4ec374e8","summary_en":"may*** argued that despite incarceration, the relevant person still refused to admit responsibility. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Appeals and court boundaries remained disputed as CVRA, §853(n), Rule 32, and post-appeal procedural routes were repeatedly modeled","description":"joh*** and kir*** contend that sequencing claims (including CVRA and sovereignty framing) affect the path of forfeiture, while Rule 32 conflicts are treated as another unresolved procedural battleground. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9eb4672051da218728ba","qbe54280be02e100fb4a6","q4ec5789ceaaf20c44189"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9eb4672051da218728ba","summary_en":"joh*** argued that the S3 indictment set a staged framework that then advanced through witnesses and Wang’s plea-and-forfeiture posture. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qbe54280be02e100fb4a6","summary_en":"joh*** contended that Tony’s sovereign-conflict and CVRA-style self-assertion disrupted the chain on jurisdiction and forfeiture. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4ec5789ceaaf20c44189","summary_en":"kir*** disputed the legal posture by saying conviction and arrest were not conflicting, while Rule 32 was the point of conflict in the dispute. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论整体围绕郭与G Club相关财产归属展开，先从请愿材料、账户数字与账目线索建立“谁控钱、钱归谁”的框架；随后分化为能否据“层级化直接控制”将郭扩张为对全部inflow个人控制的定性。群内高度分裂于破产案与刑事案是否冲突、没收与受偿谁优先、以及是否应暂缓追缴。程序维度又持续放大：传票是否送达、送达对象与方式、应诉资格和时间节点（含异议期限）反复被拉到前沿。并行讨论还覆盖退款渠道、合同追责、起诉对象识别和身份标签化，外加社媒证据可信度争议。整体并未形成共识，更多呈现概率推断与叙事对抗并存的状态。","guide":[{"title":"新增请愿与账目材料推动财产归属重心：明确区分郭、Haoran He与G Club","message_ids":["q44475a3dc6d2810a6d94"]},{"title":"“会员资金非郭个人资产”与后续858模型口径并置，是否可推得郭对全部inflow直接控制仍有争议","message_ids":["q44475a3dc6d2810a6d94","qcb60e9d3c1de684106e1"]},{"title":"控制权争议被细分为UBO、签字和账户操作链，Roy提出郭为战略影响者而非日常操盘者","message_ids":["qcb60e9d3c1de684106e1","qb4abd3d5e20e33435e2d"]},{"title":"G Club是否为郭的alter ego并纳入并清范围争执不一，反对分配与没收关系持续对撞","message_ids":["qb3455f123a1daadac459","q3a662966aa0ea809d8df","q8c809be1c8cb9c08c2ef"]},{"title":"刑事与破产交叉中，luc处置或保留G 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问问里面的生活如何","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1b4102cce25624ce97b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q38c30ea7da68971bf56a","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":404,"speaker":"mon***","date":"2026-08-29T17:02:26.034Z","text":"郭先生 在里面生活很好。黑帮老大帮着提鞋。每个人都对爆料革命的历史非常清楚 鼓舞 敬佩。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38c30ea7da68971bf56a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q30017da95a4e7670c3cd","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":405,"speaker":"mon***","date":"2026-08-29T17:02:46.473Z","text":"回复你 敬爱的郭先生","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1b4102cce25624ce97b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30017da95a4e7670c3cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1b4102cce25624ce97b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q6bbe9d4f3e7cf1c894e1","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":406,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-29T17:56:59.295Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2093759713767018702?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bbe9d4f3e7cf1c894e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q65c19acbf46042f0747e","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":407,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-08-29T18:14:36.079Z","text":"螺丝哥本身够命苦了 现在刑事拘留了 以后找工作都难找 这就是喜国送给他的礼物","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65c19acbf46042f0747e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q3bfa9525e3ee56231f65","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":408,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-29T18:16:31.488Z","text":"https://x.com/huanghebian/status/2093715867989152235?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bfa9525e3ee56231f65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qdf6b46cb668794eacf3a","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":409,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-29T18:17:04.160Z","text":"你不是一直都没有工作？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q65c19acbf46042f0747e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf6b46cb668794eacf3a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65c19acbf46042f0747e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q54c96f8ef6867bfb0242","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":410,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-29T18:17:52.558Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2093765070400655780?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54c96f8ef6867bfb0242","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qdd8028b04ac1876de380","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":411,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-08-29T19:20:40.613Z","text":"赢麻了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd8028b04ac1876de380","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qd5497cd52236ecc6a357","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":412,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:17:52.783Z","text":"怎么只提gclub\n喜交所呢？你盖尔爹的6000人，在哪里？🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q33ef44d1c8c35b795208","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5497cd52236ecc6a357","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33ef44d1c8c35b795208","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qb3528af21c4e25c1230b","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":413,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:19:07.720Z","text":"意思不就是，不要去反对，没收喜交所的5亿嘛，对不对\n［用户 him***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3528af21c4e25c1230b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q39109b012a802988f595","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":414,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:25:43.815Z","text":"GClub会员费，和farm loan GTV HEX不一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39109b012a802988f595","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q9435f6171dae959bcefa","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":415,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:27:13.251Z","text":"会员费又不是信托投资，是让渡权益给club。 ［用户 him***］ 安小东的意思，无非是要破产庭出现，俱乐部会员与俱乐部声音不一致，这样luc可以说，gclub本质也是诈骗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9435f6171dae959bcefa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qcbd50dfc7d96e778d74e","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":416,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:28:25.634Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 又是借刀杀人嘛，对不对","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbd50dfc7d96e778d74e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q84bedb8eaf1943d89a0e","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":417,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:30:21.084Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/2093857203828805803?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84bedb8eaf1943d89a0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q898f495243f8838e3b3c","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":418,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:31:39.500Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 就是打这gclub会员费的主意嘛，目前GTv碰壁，扯皮。Farm loan是农场主们的郭。HEX是余的郭。这些都是安小东的爹，都碰不得，所以她装瞎","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q898f495243f8838e3b3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q63ebcfba75e54d8c41c0","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":419,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:32:32.842Z","text":"就是青帮代表的余派在破产案没话语权","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9435f6171dae959bcefa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63ebcfba75e54d8c41c0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9435f6171dae959bcefa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q26fff6f4cc166c2ee84c","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":420,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:34:45.697Z","text":"问题是，二位满脑子都是要钱，退钱，骗钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26fff6f4cc166c2ee84c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q3c4eba6877dbc232e6d8","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":421,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:35:13.365Z","text":"一个号称中立，一个号称路人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c4eba6877dbc232e6d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q351ded9d6b01cb6802aa","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":422,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:35:43.689Z","text":"那么急，不就是因为，没了没收，你们弄不到钱了嘛🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q351ded9d6b01cb6802aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q620c5766c64d869ab020","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":423,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:36:03.647Z","text":"从来都是闷声发大财，急着在这里催别人去要钱，说明案子的发展，已经脱离之前的设计","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q620c5766c64d869ab020","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qa0697df66d7dc872e946","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":424,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:40:42.218Z","text":"美联邦刑事司法史上，被告提出上诉时，检方确实无法直接把资产清算变现或分发掉。\n根据《美国联邦刑事诉讼规则》第 32.2(d) 条（Fed. R. Crim. P. 32.2(d)）以及大量的先例判例（如著名的庞氏骗局 Bernie Madoff 案、Enron 安然案以及各类大型 RICO 欺诈案），美联邦司法体系对上诉期间的没收资产有着非常成熟且严苛的“冻结与维持原状”机制。\n在历史上类似案例中，当被告上诉且存在第三方产权争议时，检方的没收程序会受到三个核心法律规则的绝对限制：\n一、 规则一：资产只能被“扣押（Preserve）”，绝对不能被“变卖发还（Distribute）”\n根据 Rule 32.2(d) Stay Pending Appeal 的规定：\n 暂缓执行（Stay）： 一旦被告提交上诉，地方法院或上诉法院通常会签发暂缓令。在这个阶段，检方虽然可以继续实物扣押资产（避免被告转移），但检方完全无权将资产清算拍卖、解冻充公、或通过 Remission 分发给受害者。\n 原因： 如果上诉法院（如二巡）最终撤销了定罪，或者认定检方的 Loss Amount（损失金额）计算有误，而资产已经被检方卖掉或发给了别人，这种损害是不可逆的（Irreparable Harm）。\n因此，历史上所有大型经济/庞氏骗局案在上诉结束前，资金都只能静止躺在司法部的托管账户（Seized Asset Deposit Fund）或由接收人（Receiver）冻结。\n二、 规则二：即使 853(n) 听证继续，第三方也拿不到钱（产权强制冻结）\nRule 32.2(d) 中有一条极其关键的硬性规定：如果法院在上诉期间作出了有利于第三方的裁决，法院可以修改没收令，但在上诉判决成为终局判决（Final）之前，不得将任何财产权益转移给第三方。”先例表现： 在历史上诸多大型多方诉讼案中，哪怕某些第三方投资人在地方法院的 853(n) 听证中打赢了检方、证明了这笔钱是自己的合法财产，法院也不能把钱退给第三方，除非被告以书面形式明确同意。\n 逻辑根基： 因为被告在二巡上诉时，可能同时在争夺这些公司的控制权或资金归属。在最高一级上诉做出终局裁决前，法律禁止检方或第三方对这笔财产进行最终的“产权切割”。\n三、 历史先例教训：检方强行没收导致“法庭翻盘”的惨痛教训\n在历史判例中，如果检方企图在上诉期间绕过辩方和第三方强行推进没收，往往会在上诉庭遭到极其严厉的驳回：\n1. United States v. Sheet Metal Workers 等先例：\n上诉法院曾明确指出，在刑事定罪尚未经过上诉审查（Pending Appeal）前，检方持有的仅仅是一个有瑕疵的、暂时的行政占有权。检方如果强行开启 Remission 试图“米已成舟”，上诉法院会直接签发紧急禁令（Emergency Injunction）强行叫停检方的一切行政程序。\n2. Bernie Madoff（麦道夫庞氏骗局案）：\n虽然麦道夫本人放弃了主要上诉，但在涉及大量追缴资金和第三方产权时，司法部（DOJ）和清算人（MVF / Trustee）用了整整数年时间来处理上诉和第三方产权诉讼。在所有相关诉讼和上诉彻底平息之前，没有任何一分钱被检方私自通过 Remission “一充了之”。\n总结\n历史上的所有同类案子都证明了一个铁律：上诉一日不结束，检方的没收就一日无法真正落地。\n检方目前只能对郭文贵案的涉案资产进行“看管和冻结”，在二巡上诉（26-1853）敲定终局判决、且 853(n) 司法产权裁决彻底完成之前，检方既无法把钱收进国库，也无法通过 Remission 私自把钱发走。这种“看得见、摸不到、分不掉”的程序性瘫痪，是美联邦刑事上诉制度为了保障宪法产权所设定的标准结果。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q351ded9d6b01cb6802aa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0697df66d7dc872e946","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q351ded9d6b01cb6802aa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q6c144451fc323cfaca8a","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":425,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:43:22.947Z","text":"300骨干的刑事案14亿没收大肥肉，没了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0697df66d7dc872e946","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c144451fc323cfaca8a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0697df66d7dc872e946","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qe7939ceb36adddbb820e","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":426,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:44:17.954Z","text":"luc也不会把他追到的钱，分给300骨干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7939ceb36adddbb820e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q747d7afbeaf35343ebd0","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":427,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:44:27.421Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 检方还是有硬冲的权利，就和托雷斯量刑一样。 但是现在郭案这个情况 即使检方全部开启remission 到时候更大概率全部被推翻","edited":true,"reply_to":"q6c144451fc323cfaca8a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q747d7afbeaf35343ebd0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c144451fc323cfaca8a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q09856084776ba6641d19","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":428,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:45:08.311Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 检方冲没收 瑞恩等人的强制令就可以复活","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09856084776ba6641d19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q1b69fdcf1f1332c61815","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":429,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:45:31.561Z","text":"并且郭案在二巡上诉，这个情况 检方更不可能开启没收。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b69fdcf1f1332c61815","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qe69035888f0bb13ecc96","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":430,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:46:09.881Z","text":"最终没收难产，300骨干估计嗅到了一点问题，发现自己被主子骗了🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q747d7afbeaf35343ebd0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe69035888f0bb13ecc96","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q747d7afbeaf35343ebd0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qd2256b174462abc6933f","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":431,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:46:35.402Z","text":"检方现在唯一死的不那么惨的办法 就是拖 等到郭律师上任 用司法内部解决检方的没收的程序问题  不把刀子给第三方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2256b174462abc6933f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qe25394559ebea14c1317","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":432,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:47:20.608Z","text":"但郭律师我看现在没人敢接这个案子 9月份了还不上任 就说明没人敢接 那么检方就尴尬了 郭律师不上任 没收就一直拖下去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe25394559ebea14c1317","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q8a852517c26eb0f85f5e","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":433,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:48:23.033Z","text":"总之就是 检方还是可以硬冲 但是现在硬冲没收 风险比托雷斯硬冲量刑还要大一万倍 托雷斯硬冲量刑是什么后果大家都看到了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a852517c26eb0f85f5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q733f48b6ce52f98b271c","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":434,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:49:51.101Z","text":"这个早看出来了，检方是要拖到上诉律师就位，再弄最终没收的事","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd2256b174462abc6933f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q733f48b6ce52f98b271c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2256b174462abc6933f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q86c99ac6f45da16680f8","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":435,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-30T00:49:58.612Z","text":"现在政府的处理方式，是用不追缴的方式，让投资者财产被luc占有，破产程序那边，如果曼宁批准了和解，它们是不是就可以分那1.7亿中还没被luc挥霍完的部分？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86c99ac6f45da16680f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q769b75ef70db79b74ebf","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":436,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:50:17.191Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86c99ac6f45da16680f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q769b75ef70db79b74ebf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86c99ac6f45da16680f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qd5d9f314a33c5e01da49","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":437,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:50:22.018Z","text":"但是你别忘了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86c99ac6f45da16680f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5d9f314a33c5e01da49","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86c99ac6f45da16680f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q74df37b38207856dc8ba","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":438,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:50:29.962Z","text":"gclub 他们可以上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74df37b38207856dc8ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qac01dd6206750134fc22","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":439,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:50:35.808Z","text":"所以gclub郭家人，在那边","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86c99ac6f45da16680f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac01dd6206750134fc22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86c99ac6f45da16680f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q31136812af612a1b2c2b","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":440,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:50:40.900Z","text":"别忘了 他们也有强制令呦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31136812af612a1b2c2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q29603ebb155fcdf1313d","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":441,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:50:54.316Z","text":"别忘了康州破产庭的上级也是二巡哦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29603ebb155fcdf1313d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q7f8c4e77acfcd664a7f7","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":442,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:50:58.096Z","text":"在刑事案，gclub郭家人不能发声","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f8c4e77acfcd664a7f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q06254e61e9aac6b571aa","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":443,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:51:23.050Z","text":"何浩然 郭强 你们的[屏蔽词]律师不会写强制令的话就来找我吧 哈哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06254e61e9aac6b571aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q3a078c84faf67e3825dd","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":444,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:51:46.404Z","text":"我甚至感觉，郭家人看到刑事案这边，被自诉闹成这样，挺好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a078c84faf67e3825dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qc4b366cf911d49fbac5e","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":445,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:52:00.508Z","text":"那当然好了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3a078c84faf67e3825dd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4b366cf911d49fbac5e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a078c84faf67e3825dd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qbc205d8ef07db91e0e79","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":446,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:52:05.756Z","text":"那么破产案，gclub郭家族的公司，完全可以复刻模式","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc205d8ef07db91e0e79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q6fcb8969e781901ed9bc","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":447,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:52:12.140Z","text":"对呦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbc205d8ef07db91e0e79","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fcb8969e781901ed9bc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc205d8ef07db91e0e79","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qd8a6a7df687f532988c2","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":448,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:52:49.501Z","text":"郭强的BVI没有输alter ego","edited":false,"reply_to":"q194ed173f8dfc07b06b6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8a6a7df687f532988c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qdfcded6a86ba9ccd41a6","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":449,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:53:01.481Z","text":"郭美输掉，因为律师[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfcded6a86ba9ccd41a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q8b20345470ca8dfb828d","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":450,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:53:40.336Z","text":"现在没了郭美的小作文，因为破产案郭美和gclub都在里面","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b20345470ca8dfb828d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q9ee1e2ea265e2fc6967d","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":451,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:53:58.396Z","text":"再编，就说不过去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ee1e2ea265e2fc6967d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qae0fc5cf453801d49b3f","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":452,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:54:09.863Z","text":"小作文不是被 [删节：隐私信息] 搞的吗😆","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8b20345470ca8dfb828d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae0fc5cf453801d49b3f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b20345470ca8dfb828d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qb161a76bd345197a09b7","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":453,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:55:45.834Z","text":"300骨干可能才发现，政府和luc和解，然后破产案luc追他们的钱，他们还得拿出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb161a76bd345197a09b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q39a268e5eba803bbae16","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":454,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:56:07.390Z","text":"而刑事案没收的，他们破产案债权人，又暂时拿不到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39a268e5eba803bbae16","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qfc012f951fd5a85ab785","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":455,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:56:19.345Z","text":"这不是，亏死🤣 🤣 🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc012f951fd5a85ab785","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q5acc0edc40a8ce817fc3","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":456,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:56:33.485Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  我现在算是明白了 联盟韭菜为什么这么行动一致","edited":true,"reply_to":"q39a268e5eba803bbae16","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5acc0edc40a8ce817fc3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39a268e5eba803bbae16","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q7033cd3d90282883f25a","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":457,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:56:42.323Z","text":"钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5acc0edc40a8ce817fc3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7033cd3d90282883f25a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5acc0edc40a8ce817fc3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q80ae68056051f1c1e98e","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":458,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:56:44.850Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  都是被忽悠了可以拿没收款","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80ae68056051f1c1e98e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qec9db7f89770d4196c0f","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":459,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:56:46.561Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec9db7f89770d4196c0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q7077d6d877958e4ebb2f","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":460,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:56:52.599Z","text":"而且是被骗 被忽悠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7077d6d877958e4ebb2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q9c899e20a9aef08ffa8c","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":461,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:57:01.294Z","text":"现在他们才发现不对了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c899e20a9aef08ffa8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q2eb56d9821562d4e8c49","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":462,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:57:17.146Z","text":"螺丝哥早就说了 没人可以拿钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eb56d9821562d4e8c49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q70986dc39ab649af10a6","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":463,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:57:40.071Z","text":"没人信啊🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2eb56d9821562d4e8c49","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70986dc39ab649af10a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eb56d9821562d4e8c49","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q48819fdbf8916f2a217a","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":464,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T00:57:55.259Z","text":"螺丝哥还是牛逼","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70986dc39ab649af10a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48819fdbf8916f2a217a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70986dc39ab649af10a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q97a6269daddced187885","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":465,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-30T00:59:33.735Z","text":"像破产法庭这种解决只解决民事的地方，财产处置有些随意性，但一旦财产涉及到刑事，美国宪法早就把你扣死了，只要有任何一方的问题没有解决，都不能动。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97a6269daddced187885","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qd25368cb14140927520e","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":466,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T00:59:50.273Z","text":"300法盲啊\n幻想的很美好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97a6269daddced187885","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd25368cb14140927520e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97a6269daddced187885","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qbc5acbd6253a0940e0d1","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":467,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T01:00:19.749Z","text":"破产案现在也不敢乱来 曼宁太鸡贼了 一个禁止令包不包括债权人股东登记干扰司法 都他妈和luc扯皮好几年","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97a6269daddced187885","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc5acbd6253a0940e0d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97a6269daddced187885","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q6bd1b345e21528fa1c36","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":468,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T01:00:58.587Z","text":"螺丝哥毁了他们的一切 哦 不是螺丝哥 是小羊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd25368cb14140927520e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bd1b345e21528fa1c36","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd25368cb14140927520e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q07728f72711f156588c7","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":469,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T01:01:54.381Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]估计对他也很愤怒","edited":true,"reply_to":"q545d112cebc0a9b7a53d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07728f72711f156588c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qa56f4667cefb98d02800","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":470,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2026-08-30T01:02:58.529Z","text":"GTV(vog)没在没收里应该可以退还了吧，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa56f4667cefb98d02800","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q3a5e7cf64aca51709636","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":471,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T01:03:20.239Z","text":"不太清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa56f4667cefb98d02800","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a5e7cf64aca51709636","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa56f4667cefb98d02800","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q6908cfb9868770df7090","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":472,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T01:03:27.676Z","text":"好像还是卡住","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6908cfb9868770df7090","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q9791f3daede4a507262c","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":473,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T01:03:59.727Z","text":"luc正在追的，不就是300骨干拿的法治基金的钱，这帮人得吐出来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97a6269daddced187885","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9791f3daede4a507262c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97a6269daddced187885","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q8383c11da65ab594abaa","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":474,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T01:04:40.889Z","text":"郭的最终没收令还没出","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa56f4667cefb98d02800","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8383c11da65ab594abaa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa56f4667cefb98d02800","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q96ca392e82c0c3e19146","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":475,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T01:04:57.443Z","text":"王案 GTV在没收范围","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96ca392e82c0c3e19146","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qe2a2308abdc7ad921827","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":476,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T01:05:42.774Z","text":"量刑后出了一个修改的 是修改的什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q96ca392e82c0c3e19146","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2a2308abdc7ad921827","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96ca392e82c0c3e19146","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q395c266decb46da8d131","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":477,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2026-08-30T01:08:32.511Z","text":"张勇兵代理退款的sec没在没收里吧，不是踢除了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q395c266decb46da8d131","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qe40573aec43a8d6ba375","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":478,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2026-08-30T01:11:19.120Z","text":"SEC的退款在不在没收里？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe40573aec43a8d6ba375","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qcc88b2efb9eca6393322","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":479,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2026-08-30T01:15:53.011Z","text":"好像青帮说过sec退款的事，要审核等着","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc88b2efb9eca6393322","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q7315190ec9a85fd9bef6","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":480,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2026-08-30T01:16:13.995Z","text":"公平基金","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7315190ec9a85fd9bef6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qe181e4a9f7f27b1968cb","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":481,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T01:20:54.230Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc88b2efb9eca6393322","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe181e4a9f7f27b1968cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc88b2efb9eca6393322","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q8da5c549e9d567da8f50","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":482,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T01:21:00.761Z","text":"不在","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe40573aec43a8d6ba375","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8da5c549e9d567da8f50","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe40573aec43a8d6ba375","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q878a9c48a1bc1772bf0f","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":483,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T01:22:11.478Z","text":"增加了没收追缴的账户 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缅甸也可以发传票啊！！","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1aea03c8a3ae705e44fd","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2319840bd4df4915c387","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q6f982295a311f38b6ee5","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":518,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T04:09:10.158Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 缅甸没有快递吗！！ 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瑞恩大人是神一样的人物","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6983c4b97887f8ef5a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qa257f2732a427b4b121c","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":533,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T04:15:19.435Z","text":"你还处理瑞恩 笑死人了 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天天等着别人喂到你嘴边？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e234cfc04ae22578b77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q7ec5b0235f88fff161af","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":538,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-08-30T04:16:55.757Z","text":"我知道它们也在看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ec5b0235f88fff161af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qe27a824c4e78d5be3a33","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":539,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T04:17:02.524Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  你自己找啊","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5e5c70027534072fdf98","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe27a824c4e78d5be3a33","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q805ffaa4d68d2a22e647","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":540,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T04:17:44.932Z","text":"［用户 wen***］  解除张永兵合同\n\n[删节：隐私信息]\n写明：姓名 + Fair Fund Claim ID + 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我公民😂","edited":true,"reply_to":"q42a0f3ad279a715920de","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca262f985cd4cf5e3f3d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42a0f3ad279a715920de","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q346038ded69e44b1599f","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":543,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T04:31:18.851Z","text":"［用户 wen***］ 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number，是这个吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0463e237e43227d188af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q86c7c50af6196cfc2fa8","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":552,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-30T05:00:48.457Z","text":"我实际上很困惑，为何会出现一些人一旦让张永兵帮忙接收退款后，再找sec退款然后退不了，那时刑事案还没开始。在官网上按着指引做就行了，指引没明确就打电话问具体怎么操作，有普通话服务。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86c7c50af6196cfc2fa8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q5300dbde40afb421fc94","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":553,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T05:01:03.345Z","text":"是的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0463e237e43227d188af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5300dbde40afb421fc94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0463e237e43227d188af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qbbe55d5d1829a787ff02","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":554,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-30T05:01:24.503Z","text":"唉，太久了，都记不清了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5300dbde40afb421fc94","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbe55d5d1829a787ff02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5300dbde40afb421fc94","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q8b462114f1f422f3ff61","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":555,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T05:01:31.316Z","text":"张在流程做了骚操作","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86c7c50af6196cfc2fa8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b462114f1f422f3ff61","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86c7c50af6196cfc2fa8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q226608f73e233eea60ef","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":556,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-30T05:02:57.204Z","text":"退款为什么分成了几批，原来告诉我第二批，后来又成了第三批","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86c7c50af6196cfc2fa8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q226608f73e233eea60ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86c7c50af6196cfc2fa8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qcfba3950dd2d766c0f9f","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":557,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T05:13:11.453Z","text":"是不是张合同写的，先退给他律所账户，然后客户再找他要\n客户签了合同，公平基金会先把钱给张","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b462114f1f422f3ff61","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfba3950dd2d766c0f9f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b462114f1f422f3ff61","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qa6c1b40253540d095568","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":558,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-30T05:15:46.631Z","text":"據說：SEC已經把錢給了張永兵手上。\n你們當時找張永兵作代理律師時，是誰推給你們的？是聯盟嗎？\n目前應該是找張要，寫郵件或打電話給張的律師樓，如果張不肯給的話，直接起訴張。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86c7c50af6196cfc2fa8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6c1b40253540d095568","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86c7c50af6196cfc2fa8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qd8aa41b9a6a3666fdb88","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":559,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T05:18:07.898Z","text":"张主要闷墙内委托投资者的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6c1b40253540d095568","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8aa41b9a6a3666fdb88","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6c1b40253540d095568","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q5643058755657960cdc6","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":560,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T05:18:36.489Z","text":"不会吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6c1b40253540d095568","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5643058755657960cdc6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6c1b40253540d095568","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qcf62c9657d5b2aee8470","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":561,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T05:18:45.578Z","text":"这些人，一没有美元账户，二可能会被威胁，个人信息泄漏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitec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他不回复 或者否认 那就是欺诈； 不回复也是欺诈 constructive fraud.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0639ee64104dfb3072b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qa94f4e3556e4f040e9f3","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":571,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-30T05:25:24.657Z","text":"聽說一些自己收款的退款幾年前已經收到款了。是幾年前！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb53a3372de051e9da00c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa94f4e3556e4f040e9f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb53a3372de051e9da00c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qa1ce6f5dfc12fd1d4f70","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":572,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-30T05:26:33.482Z","text":"是的，就是詐欺，律師的身份更嚴重，知法犯法！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0639ee64104dfb3072b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1ce6f5dfc12fd1d4f70","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0639ee64104dfb3072b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qf4cb41b0c359576b46a7","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":573,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-30T05:26:49.142Z","text":"所以， 那些与张勇兵签了合同的， 你们第一件事就是要问他： 钱在不在他那里？ 他如果拒绝回复， 你们要看看他是不是违法合同？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4cb41b0c359576b46a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q903662a084066aec58b2","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":574,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-30T05:27:56.938Z","text":"因为他拒绝旅行他的律师职责， 你们有权解除合同； 可能免于支付那个1%。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q903662a084066aec58b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qb2aa7d89231ac1c8cb9b","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":575,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-30T05:28:39.485Z","text":"现在还不确定是他贪污了还是他骚操作","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4cb41b0c359576b46a7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2aa7d89231ac1c8cb9b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4cb41b0c359576b46a7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q264ebfb12fc945ddf935","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":576,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-30T05:28:55.667Z","text":"如今發生這麼多事，讓大家這麼痛苦的經歷，如果當初老郭不發起詐騙投資的話⋯⋯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q264ebfb12fc945ddf935","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q9a04e63ce41726d48e2b","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":577,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-30T05:30:07.150Z","text":"另外， 如果钱在他账上， 他没有及时的把钱给你们， 他也没有违背合同责任？ 你们也可能免于支付那1%","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a04e63ce41726d48e2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qd83c197be8da70623b73","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":578,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-30T05:30:18.192Z","text":"在315之前，张肯定是用了什么操作把人拖住了，315之后，就跟夏其东一样说资金已经被冻结。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd83c197be8da70623b73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qd26b9635a37038ae2f74","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":579,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T05:32:28.392Z","text":"青联盟直播，关于公平基金，说的是委托律师正在核实，然后退款","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9a04e63ce41726d48e2b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd26b9635a37038ae2f74","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a04e63ce41726d48e2b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qe3cea6228070a66d04f4","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":580,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T05:32:46.362Z","text":"这意思就是，钱在张那里","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3cea6228070a66d04f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qb8d22467a76e9497b1ce","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":581,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T05:32:59.436Z","text":"如果在sec，不用这么说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8d22467a76e9497b1ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q0746f3c7d85f1f6d6107","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":582,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-30T05:33:01.123Z","text":"如果骚操作， 那他的问题就更严重了。这些人的合同是要还钱， 委托他给检方干什么事了吗？ 他有什么权利 或者法律上的东西， 必须要按照检方的要求扣押钱？ 或者检方有这个法令吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2aa7d89231ac1c8cb9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0746f3c7d85f1f6d6107","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2aa7d89231ac1c8cb9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q18787b32993f3d2a34a9","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":583,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-30T05:33:09.346Z","text":"什麼時候的直播？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3cea6228070a66d04f4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18787b32993f3d2a34a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3cea6228070a66d04f4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q73a057713754c044e253","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":584,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-30T05:34:28.843Z","text":"他光说不行； 拿证据来。\n\n另外， 钱在他的账上 是不是有收益？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd83c197be8da70623b73","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73a057713754c044e253","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd83c197be8da70623b73","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q96b15b960f0b89ce800f","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":585,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-30T05:34:55.944Z","text":"委托联盟的是不是没有填这个索赔证明表，都是张处理的？我一点印象都没有 [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96b15b960f0b89ce800f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q37cb535d9ff6b0d2a7f2","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":586,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-30T05:35:45.616Z","text":"利息就別想了，能拿回本金你就要謝謝自己的祖先了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73a057713754c044e253","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37cb535d9ff6b0d2a7f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73a057713754c044e253","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qf661dffd20b45f45a111","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":587,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-30T05:36:04.702Z","text":"个人账户的没经过张，他控制不了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa94f4e3556e4f040e9f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf661dffd20b45f45a111","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa94f4e3556e4f040e9f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q79b4fe4c6b2a7b268e1b","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":588,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-08-30T05:36:08.852Z","text":"这个局非常狠，其实目的就是把很多人逼走","edited":false,"reply_to":"q264ebfb12fc945ddf935","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79b4fe4c6b2a7b268e1b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q264ebfb12fc945ddf935","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q7c47e830268e2c93cef3","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":589,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-30T05:37:27.572Z","text":"那为什么公平基金还说还没退完？难道张能影响公平基金？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3cea6228070a66d04f4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c47e830268e2c93cef3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3cea6228070a66d04f4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q5c7242b6106243d45488","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":590,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-30T05:38:01.418Z","text":"我记得当时联盟让提交了很多证明材料","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2dbc4e35e884084043ac","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c7242b6106243d45488","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q672535c5d2c155b52ba6","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":591,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-30T05:38:09.254Z","text":"既没有委托张，又没有个人申请\n这部分没法算，怕是需要核实确认","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c47e830268e2c93cef3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q672535c5d2c155b52ba6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c47e830268e2c93cef3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qb99678cc60d5fda909c7","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":592,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-30T05:38:13.182Z","text":"315后，理论上，不管在张还是在公平基金那里的，都不能动。张那一部分，luc不知道追到没有。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73a057713754c044e253","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb99678cc60d5fda909c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73a057713754c044e253","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"q0887238fdaa4fdfe9e9a","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":593,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-30T05:38:14.883Z","text":"如果不是為了拿回投資款，早他媽遠離NFSC這個[屏蔽词]群體⋯⋯\n\n何用他逼？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q79b4fe4c6b2a7b268e1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0887238fdaa4fdfe9e9a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79b4fe4c6b2a7b268e1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qfed9575d89debc9ce15b","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":594,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-30T05:38:43.090Z","text":"没明白","edited":false,"reply_to":"q672535c5d2c155b52ba6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfed9575d89debc9ce15b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q672535c5d2c155b52ba6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154"},{"id":"qa07625fe80054cfc2628","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":595,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-30T05:40:07.682Z","text":"直接打電話去公平基金那兒問，找在美國的朋友幫忙打。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfed9575d89debc9ce15b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussion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