{"id":"batch-000157","number":157,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-09-07T06:12:57.532Z","date_end":"2026-09-08T23:01:04.724Z","total_messages":480,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 157 (Sep 7, 2026 – Sep 8, 2026), 480 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants analyzed criminal proceedings, examining how fund tracing and financing channels affect fraud, money laundering, and RICO allegations. Debates emerged over whether farm leaders withheld loan funds, while contributors disputed the appropriateness of CVRA filings and 853(n) actions. Speakers also assessed witness credibility cited in Southern District document 415, page 141, and argued over rumors regarding an associate's detention. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Discussion on the Impact of Fund Tracing and Financing Channels on Fraud and Money Laundering Charges","description":"Participants analyze how fund tracing and transaction channels impact money laundering and fraud charges. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q6648a50abd37609f5014","q8596ba5bad6938ae4c7e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6648a50abd37609f5014","summary_en":"kir*** contends that this would trigger a judicial conflict over the legal nature of the funds. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8596ba5bad6938ae4c7e","summary_en":"kir*** argues that such a conflict would cause the prosecution's case to collapse. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Discussion on Farm Loan Fund Flows, Non-Prosecution Agreements, and Recovery Disputes","description":"Participants examine farm loan fund flows, non-prosecution agreements, and fund recovery disputes. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2aa636205248287d7a7c","qa61d37c209ac00f9a27f","qd3dd1a41592e51978222"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2aa636205248287d7a7c","summary_en":"joh*** questions whether other farms concealed money from the alliance, noting that Wei allegedly withheld nearly 100 million at trial. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa61d37c209ac00f9a27f","summary_en":"joh*** contends that auditing bank records would reveal withheld funds, alleging that farm leaders committed collective perjury at trial while core operators posed as victims. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd3dd1a41592e51978222","summary_en":"joh*** describes how several witnesses and reporting parties invested via domestic US wires while in the United States, whereas transfer methods for mainland Chinese investors were not addressed at trial. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Analysis of Prosecution Witness Credibility, Defense Performance, and Second Circuit Appeal Strategy","description":"Participants evaluate prosecution witness credibility, defense advocacy, and Second Circuit appeal strategies. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qd3afd9c0ffc9926e4c40","q80a366c04e5677c3e430","q8ff319ecbf4ead998af1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd3afd9c0ffc9926e4c40","summary_en":"kir*** notes that the observation concerning defense arguments is a valid point. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q80a366c04e5677c3e430","summary_en":"kir*** shares an external link discussing case developments and defense strategies. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8ff319ecbf4ead998af1","summary_en":"kir*** questions the use of prosecution witness Li Ya's testimony, citing Southern District document 415, page 141, where the witness admitted parental intimidation by the CCP. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Discussion on Himalaya Exchange Liability Attribution, RICO Charge Patterns, and Asset Segregation","description":"Participants dispute liability attribution for Himalaya Exchange and allegations of fund misappropriation. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q05635e4420e2218522af","q19e2c72f39916b8d87c2","q080c31815168954fa905"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q05635e4420e2218522af","summary_en":"ntp*** contends that funds from the Himalaya Exchange were misappropriated by Yu while the blame was placed on Guo. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q19e2c72f39916b8d87c2","summary_en":"ntp*** shares a broadcast link and asks if anyone recognizes the individual featured. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q080c31815168954fa905","summary_en":"reb*** notes that earlier group discussions had already clearly detailed the scrutiny surrounding Gair. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Disagreements over the Feasibility of Rights-Defense Lawsuits, CVRA Application, and Legal Risks","description":"Participants debate the procedural validity, CVRA applicability, and risks of independent victim actions. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q1bc1f23007e5da932944","q1d04cb81f532d1e70271","q3c01f9b9403331d38906"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1bc1f23007e5da932944","summary_en":"ken*** states that community members remain present even when they stay silent. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1d04cb81f532d1e70271","summary_en":"joh*** criticizes user him*** for promoting 853(n) while attacking the CVRA, arguing that exercising CVRA rights is an independent choice and observing that certain individuals did not invoke the CVRA in court. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3c01f9b9403331d38906","summary_en":"joh*** responds that they have not heard of the person in question. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Speculation Regarding Rumors of Key Individuals' Detention and Their Impact on Prosecution Evidence","description":"Participants discuss rumors regarding the detention of key individuals and speculate on evidentiary impacts. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q1eae466236d861cf1eeb","q0863bc20bd923fd8b80f","qf97b3b79dba22460ba38"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1eae466236d861cf1eeb","summary_en":"xia*** asks whether the individual known as Brother Luosi has been released. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0863bc20bd923fd8b80f","summary_en":"kir*** recounts that Brother Luosi's mother said a village party secretary informed them of the situation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf97b3b79dba22460ba38","summary_en":"may*** makes a colloquial remark alleging that Brother Luosi has died. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Dispute over the Authenticity of Court Filings and Service of Process","description":"Participants dispute account identities and the authenticity of court filings shared in the group. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4a2044d60191268b2a74","qbbe6a60a10834fa3eb47"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4a2044d60191268b2a74","summary_en":"kir*** asks user hah*** which primary account they are referring to. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qbbe6a60a10834fa3eb47","summary_en":"kir*** challenges user hah*** to prove that the account belongs to them. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Community Moderation Conflicts and Dispute over Framing Prompted by Detention Rumors","description":"Participants debate moderation policies and conflicting official characterizations following detention rumors. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qbae62f4cc52df9cde236","qf885df303b8942b1e9e9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qbae62f4cc52df9cde236","summary_en":"ken*** proposes establishing a group rule to remove members who repeatedly share personal identity information. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf885df303b8942b1e9e9","summary_en":"reb*** recounts that Langfang state security officials previously framed the matter as fraud rather than an offense against national security, arguing that a formal indictment remains unlikely unless officials overturn their previous stance. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"本次讨论主要围绕涉案法律诉讼及社群争议展开。多名讨论者探讨了资金追踪与出资渠道对洗钱、诈骗及RICO共谋等罪名成立的影响，并就农场借贷资金留存、不起诉协议及追偿范围产生分歧。关于诉讼进程，部分发言者深入评估一审抗辩记录、辩护律师表现及检方证人证言可信度，探讨二巡上诉的前景；同时就“自诉”行动可行性、CVRA程序适用及相关法律风险展开激烈辨析。此外，围绕关键涉案人员被拘留等外界传言，讨论者对其人身现状、政治背景及其对检方指控与证据链条的潜在冲击提出多种推测与对立观点。群内亦就法院材料提交与送达真实性、社群管理规则及言论定调等问题发生了直接争吵与立场对立。","guide":[{"title":"讨论资金追踪与出资渠道对诈骗及洗钱罪名的影响","message_ids":["q6648a50abd37609f5014","q8596ba5bad6938ae4c7e"]},{"title":"探讨农场借贷资金流向、不起诉协议及追偿争议","message_ids":["q2aa636205248287d7a7c","qa61d37c209ac00f9a27f","qd3dd1a41592e51978222"]},{"title":"分析检方证人证言可信度、辩护表现与二巡上诉策略","message_ids":["qd3afd9c0ffc9926e4c40","q80a366c04e5677c3e430","q8ff319ecbf4ead998af1"]},{"title":"围绕喜交所责任归属、RICO指控模式与资产隔离的讨论","message_ids":["q05635e4420e2218522af","q19e2c72f39916b8d87c2","q080c31815168954fa905"]},{"title":"就维权自诉可行性、CVRA适用及法律风险产生的意见分歧","message_ids":["q1bc1f23007e5da932944","q1d04cb81f532d1e70271","q3c01f9b9403331d38906"]},{"title":"关注相关涉案人员被拘传闻及其对指控证据影响的推测","message_ids":["q1eae466236d861cf1eeb","q0863bc20bd923fd8b80f","qf97b3b79dba22460ba38"]},{"title":"围绕法院材料提交与诉讼送达真实性的激烈争执","message_ids":["q4a2044d60191268b2a74","qbbe6a60a10834fa3eb47"]},{"title":"涉案传闻引发的社群定调冲突与管理追责争议","message_ids":["qbae62f4cc52df9cde236","qf885df303b8942b1e9e9"]}],"closed":false,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-09T08:39:44.286Z","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000157","page":1,"page_size":200,"total_pages":3,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000157?page=2","prev_url":null,"messages":[{"id":"q6648a50abd37609f5014","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":1,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:12:57.532Z","text":"会导致资金性质司法冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6648a50abd37609f5014","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q8596ba5bad6938ae4c7e","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":2,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:13:12.162Z","text":"然后这案子就崩了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8596ba5bad6938ae4c7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qc62778a9ddfd1f0495d4","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":3,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:13:53.442Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  如果当时庭审细问trace 那么庭审就可以打到主权身份冲突","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc62778a9ddfd1f0495d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q9b8c4fb48a9e37bd222a","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":4,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T06:13:58.010Z","text":"是的\n而魏那边，还有和解不起诉，避免了她出现在庭审","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b8c4fb48a9e37bd222a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q4d0b7b43fd1f7dac60a1","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":5,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:14:15.234Z","text":"trace 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外贸公司","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbb4b6debd03506f6e5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q43859f4f3a794028b4df","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":8,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:15:21.677Z","text":"那这些所谓14亿损失 有多少是通过代持 混同 外贸公司","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43859f4f3a794028b4df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf16f8cd43a23d02ab5c0","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":9,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:15:30.685Z","text":"这些人是诈骗受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf16f8cd43a23d02ab5c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q2b01ef9d22a94d5c6cdb","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":10,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:15:50.041Z","text":"还是中共地下钱庄换汇受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b01ef9d22a94d5c6cdb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q74254b2bbab240d3d970","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":11,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:16:00.820Z","text":"还是黄牛诈骗受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74254b2bbab240d3d970","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qe5880070e4c354c31bd3","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":12,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:16:08.011Z","text":"还是外贸公司受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5880070e4c354c31bd3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q1658886c2bfc80352f56","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":13,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:16:17.334Z","text":"这下 连诈骗罪都会打穿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1658886c2bfc80352f56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q403fc5ce45dc9b579c1a","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":14,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:16:30.920Z","text":"这全都是tony打出来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q403fc5ce45dc9b579c1a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q6dfaa39f96f4add02d4a","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":15,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:16:40.497Z","text":"律师就他妈一个字 trace","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dfaa39f96f4add02d4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q76f43740407b2b7ff07b","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":16,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:16:42.350Z","text":"一笔带过","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76f43740407b2b7ff07b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qa0a66a0285c725697620","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":17,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:17:09.831Z","text":"诈骗崩了 洗钱就不成立","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0a66a0285c725697620","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q5879d8ba242437083cef","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":18,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:17:13.746Z","text":"然后rico就不成立","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5879d8ba242437083cef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q04efad54a376cba9755d","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":19,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:17:40.801Z","text":"所以 他们把中国投资拦在外面  看来是必须的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04efad54a376cba9755d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q2aa636205248287d7a7c","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":20,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T06:18:07.086Z","text":"还有一个问题，就是如果魏上了庭审，她的农场闷钱，快1亿，不给联盟账户\n那么其他农场，是不是也有这个问题，其他人又闷了多少钱，没有给到联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aa636205248287d7a7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q62eaf9370453a35d4eb1","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":21,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T06:18:24.348Z","text":"各个农场都有收款账户，又没有冻结","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62eaf9370453a35d4eb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q3fdd668c1bd43aa9bedd","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":22,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:18:26.611Z","text":"他们闷钱这个检方管不了吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2aa636205248287d7a7c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fdd668c1bd43aa9bedd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aa636205248287d7a7c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qc897f0b4f7ec031f40f8","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":23,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T06:19:59.147Z","text":"farm 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hel***］ 的合同，有长岛签字，如果去了二巡，检方就要解释了吧","edited":true,"reply_to":"q46820b28fe5478c07214","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51159beb58556a0073c5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46820b28fe5478c07214","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf8193075a44a3b1952fd","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":29,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T06:25:52.915Z","text":"长岛说资金冻结，不给人退投资，这就是撒谎","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8193075a44a3b1952fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q71e30a87ae582d37d410","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":30,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-07T06:26:40.346Z","text":"应该要求联盟出示收款记录汇款记录，但辩方律师从来不提","edited":false,"reply_to":"q301dc133380bac5e71cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71e30a87ae582d37d410","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q301dc133380bac5e71cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q23ee7cc9aec4e24fb2c0","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":31,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:27:09.030Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8193075a44a3b1952fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23ee7cc9aec4e24fb2c0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8193075a44a3b1952fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q38ac2e914aa0493046f5","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":32,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:28:01.818Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 如果短屌说资金被冻结 撒谎 然后有人因为这个报案了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38ac2e914aa0493046f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qeb8d6f039c4bf271152b","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":33,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T06:28:34.791Z","text":"起诉不起诉，追不追缴，是政府权力，但是得交待，判给郭的那1.1亿农场借贷，在哪里，没收清单上没有体现。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46820b28fe5478c07214","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb8d6f039c4bf271152b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46820b28fe5478c07214","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qfcef8e8d5b45385a4fbd","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":34,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T06:29:43.185Z","text":"顺着这个，魏那边和长岛和解的事，也可以拆掉farm loan项目，郭指挥一切的指控\n各个独立运作的农场，账目，负责人，都要被拉回来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38ac2e914aa0493046f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcef8e8d5b45385a4fbd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38ac2e914aa0493046f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qd3afd9c0ffc9926e4c40","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":35,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:30:07.189Z","text":"这确实是个点啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfcef8e8d5b45385a4fbd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3afd9c0ffc9926e4c40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcef8e8d5b45385a4fbd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q6723c554bc71c087911e","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":36,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T06:30:43.246Z","text":"这个点，也就是他们和检方签协议的点\n郭指挥，他们听命令\n李娅的证词，不就是这些内容","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3afd9c0ffc9926e4c40","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6723c554bc71c087911e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3afd9c0ffc9926e4c40","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qedaf1a0f37d4178268e5","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":37,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:32:12.330Z","text":"操 李亚亲口承认父母被威胁 这种证词也能信","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6723c554bc71c087911e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedaf1a0f37d4178268e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6723c554bc71c087911e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qc0a03460745b7c7d029d","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":38,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T06:33:00.670Z","text":"夏与魏的民事案子，不在刑事案， ［用户 spr***］ 之前说的，要投资者去民事起诉魏，不就是这个意思","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0a03460745b7c7d029d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q84db144132604dbca253","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":39,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T06:33:37.831Z","text":"就是陪审团信了。所以我说，就算证人没有撒谎，正常的陪审团也不会认为有罪。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qedaf1a0f37d4178268e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84db144132604dbca253","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedaf1a0f37d4178268e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q198b00daab9314e3e4a6","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":40,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:34:16.725Z","text":"这种都是违规的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q84db144132604dbca253","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q198b00daab9314e3e4a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84db144132604dbca253","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q3a58dfd99789e23c5d36","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":41,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T06:34:47.563Z","text":"郭说了好几次，魏和夏那里还有钱，要拿回刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a58dfd99789e23c5d36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qc9e361f82947e74dcafe","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":42,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T06:35:08.742Z","text":"这两个被拉回来，其他农场主，都要回来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9e361f82947e74dcafe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q140645fb0d094210e3ba","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":43,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T06:35:10.857Z","text":"好像当时律师没留记录。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q198b00daab9314e3e4a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q140645fb0d094210e3ba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q198b00daab9314e3e4a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q8c07678dea596d383387","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":44,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:35:26.054Z","text":"李亚亲口说的 tony写了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q140645fb0d094210e3ba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c07678dea596d383387","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q140645fb0d094210e3ba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qccac1f57d204f1172c83","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":45,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T06:36:24.771Z","text":"律师当时要提出排除证词，如果不提出并留记录，上诉时就不能再说这个事。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c07678dea596d383387","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccac1f57d204f1172c83","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c07678dea596d383387","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q37796874d33f03666545","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":46,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T06:36:53.597Z","text":"提出托雷斯驳回，是法官的事。不提，是律师的问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37796874d33f03666545","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q475a71a52a8041186d71","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":47,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:37:07.121Z","text":"律师没提？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q475a71a52a8041186d71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q9fee86b0c352b829fd1b","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":48,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:37:09.209Z","text":"你确定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fee86b0c352b829fd1b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qabca9e06f5c84612114b","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":49,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:37:10.397Z","text":"？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabca9e06f5c84612114b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qd5f08318d0575e0e5666","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":50,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:37:46.993Z","text":"但律师不提不代表上诉就不能提了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5f08318d0575e0e5666","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qfc804616216e7e54e9dd","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":51,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T06:37:51.093Z","text":"我只记得在易建虎那里，说了这个事。但不是在盘问李亚时。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9fee86b0c352b829fd1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc804616216e7e54e9dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fee86b0c352b829fd1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf887879eba5bfbd7a502","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":52,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T06:40:20.408Z","text":"打无效辩护可以说这个点，如果要说法官的问题，这里就应该要求排除，不能后面主张排除证词。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5f08318d0575e0e5666","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf887879eba5bfbd7a502","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5f08318d0575e0e5666","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q119391a84d7334a1205e","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":53,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:40:39.534Z","text":"这个交给上诉律师吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf887879eba5bfbd7a502","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q119391a84d7334a1205e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf887879eba5bfbd7a502","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qb5aea3380ef3c28f38d0","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":54,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:40:54.851Z","text":"但受害者可以用螺丝哥去排除李亚的所有证词","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5aea3380ef3c28f38d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q8e0bba15b7cc1a991869","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":55,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-09-07T06:45:34.445Z","text":"短屌會因此而破了不起訴協議🤭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf42da3f9e190a3d026d8","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discu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那么所有南区的证词命令都要撤销","edited":false,"reply_to":"qabe9bc0c67f2b999e0b3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1594ee6d793031206953","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabe9bc0c67f2b999e0b3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qe41d0cdbefd257a01e59","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":65,"speaker":"xia***","date":"2026-09-07T06:51:59.669Z","text":"还在拘留所吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe41d0cdbefd257a01e59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q40e4dad242617a3da0eb","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":66,"speaker":"xia***","date":"2026-09-07T06:52:03.380Z","text":"什么情况","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40e4dad242617a3da0eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qdf56574195e0f7ce42a1","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":67,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:52:10.815Z","text":"还在拘留","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe41d0cdbefd257a01e59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf56574195e0f7ce42a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe41d0cdbefd257a01e59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q211e5560aef11fee0976","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":68,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T06:52:43.414Z","text":"那是当然。到这个程度，正常的法官会怎么想就不用怀疑了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1594ee6d793031206953","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q211e5560aef11fee0976","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1594ee6d793031206953","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q3f3ca4f73e2627fe9f00","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":69,"speaker":"xia***","date":"2026-09-07T06:52:47.078Z","text":"螺丝哥自己倒霉了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f3ca4f73e2627fe9f00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf041a57ea047277ba51d","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":70,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T06:52:47.594Z","text":"陪审团不会相信 父母被弄死的情况下 李亚还能说真话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf041a57ea047277ba51d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf3f93d4ae4c9b3c57c76","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":71,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T06:55:19.051Z","text":"喜交所这个地方，涉及到于和演员们非法出金的问题，没有相关记录在庭审里。中共对它们的保护真是无微不至。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3f93d4ae4c9b3c57c76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qaa84a2c72b315eb6b573","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":72,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T06:58:30.722Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 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们都看明白了、它们开始罢工、不干活了，各自找退路去弄被瑞恩敲诈的一百万大洋呀。保命要紧呀😂\n[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b864ab6f7af622a19c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q78e95274feacd5916ac0","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":111,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-07T11:47:36.369Z","text":"而正常的案件讨论却很活跃","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78e95274feacd5916ac0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qee27674bfcb44d5a8e7d","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":112,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T12:06:51.044Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 这些自诉捅刀帮还有一个特点，当你发法律言论时，谈论关于验证的话题，这些自诉捅刀帮的成员会用其他的信息刷屏，把可以验证的信息定上去，让你无法验证。这是我和这群打交道1-2年的经验所得","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee27674bfcb44d5a8e7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q84404f78421a2147fb79","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":113,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T12:07:24.853Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 它们这群[屏蔽词]，最怕你去验证了。因为一验证，它们的谎言就被揭穿。要拖你入坑的计划就会破产，就无法害郭先生，让你可以拿回你的钱。它们的目的是害郭先生，让你拿不回钱，影响你未来入境美国或者绿卡，甚至会坐牢。这是自诉捅刀帮最恶毒的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84404f78421a2147fb79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q59e3304b7716238fa76a","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":114,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T12:17:44.854Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 这些自诉操妈贼，被一些农场主骗的钱，都没有办法要回，都没办法自诉起诉它们，你怎么相信它们自诉可以救郭先生呢。自己的事都没办法解决，你还相信它们能挽救地球。一个拉屎都没办法正常的人，只能自己消化自己拉的屎，你相信它拉的屎可以挽救地球的农作物？它家的农作物都没办法用上它的屎，你相信它能救地球的生物？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59e3304b7716238fa76a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qc510abd0806b1d736500","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":115,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T12:20:34.365Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 自身利益受损却无能为力，却幻想能去左右一场高级别的联邦司法审判","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc510abd0806b1d736500","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qbae62f4cc52df9cde236","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":116,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:33:57.231Z","text":"这个群 能不能立个群规，把经常 发 [删节：成员身份] 的[屏蔽词]给踢出去？\n\n偶尔发几个 [删节：成员身份] 的除外","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbae62f4cc52df9cde236","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf53ff5b60cc72d8c51ef","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":117,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T12:36:01.215Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 最近韩国骗钱的[屏蔽词]出境率很高，不要以为你们不接诉状就没办法了。很快的，民事下面就是刑事，你知道我也知道。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf53ff5b60cc72d8c51ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q5f3121491dd41449b2e9","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":118,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T12:38:21.676Z","text":"你很有意思啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbae62f4cc52df9cde236","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f3121491dd41449b2e9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbae62f4cc52df9cde236","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf8bfab9c5f4388a6cc3d","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":119,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T12:39:14.136Z","text":"不少熟人。很多跑不了的，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8bfab9c5f4388a6cc3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qbb5fc32e03495e3c7260","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":120,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:41:12.860Z","text":"谁跑了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb5fc32e03495e3c7260","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q1bc1f23007e5da932944","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":121,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:41:38.675Z","text":"大家都一直在，只是不说话而已！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bc1f23007e5da932944","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q8b0e54c0b8a2127df394","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":122,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:42:40.020Z","text":"谁骗你钱 就找谁去啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b0e54c0b8a2127df394","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q7d300504926ae078b83e","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":123,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:42:47.441Z","text":"没人拦你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d300504926ae078b83e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q2bc14dd440a6b85ce2eb","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":124,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T12:44:00.435Z","text":"知道都知道，躲避诉状是没有用的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bc14dd440a6b85ce2eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qe3f9c553c8608ea49ac9","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":125,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:44:28.732Z","text":"整天在群里骂骂咧咧的也没有用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3f9c553c8608ea49ac9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qe5d78fc2d7dffcdc4e21","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":126,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:45:10.534Z","text":"把汇款单保存好，总有一天要用到的！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5d78fc2d7dffcdc4e21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q088878ce2c7fd82a5315","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":127,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:49:50.148Z","text":"有能力写自诉的就写自诉，不会写自诉的也没人逼迫你写。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q088878ce2c7fd82a5315","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q6ff23ef727c5c3bdb222","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":128,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-07T12:50:13.148Z","text":"写自诉的已经死了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ff23ef727c5c3bdb222","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q1395ab089ab7727d912e","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":129,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:50:50.054Z","text":"虽死犹荣！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1395ab089ab7727d912e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q5af6d5433e9dd0543e5b","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":130,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:50:54.934Z","text":"怕啥？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5af6d5433e9dd0543e5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q8fec20d1140e6faddbda","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":131,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:51:39.750Z","text":"起码人家名字已经登上了美国司法部、二巡！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fec20d1140e6faddbda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q22041b6946db7c2ec4ff","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":132,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:58:27.398Z","text":"你 这不是在挑战全群吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22041b6946db7c2ec4ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf4da5746bf6c53026829","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":133,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-07T12:59:13.132Z","text":"荣在哪里","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1395ab089ab7727d912e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4da5746bf6c53026829","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1395ab089ab7727d912e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q35520b2dbe875be8e5fa","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":134,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T12:59:40.063Z","text":"这都不知道？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35520b2dbe875be8e5fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q4f2ceee2311d561a425f","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":135,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-07T12:59:44.097Z","text":"钱被骗光 工作没了 光荣在哪里","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f2ceee2311d561a425f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q026d099b17c9df1712fd","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":136,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-07T13:00:03.123Z","text":"我有个椅子朋友被国企开除 你告诉我 哪里光荣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q026d099b17c9df1712fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q7bc758885e041ed8f262","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":137,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-07T13:00:22.633Z","text":"信仰光荣？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bc758885e041ed8f262","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q07328b34d0fdd2968381","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":138,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-07T13:01:31.752Z","text":"国企 不就是共产党的企业吗？\n被国企开除，不就是证明G系列是灭共的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07328b34d0fdd2968381","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q54abeb656190b881ee5d","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":139,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T13:11:25.969Z","text":"［用户 hel***］你们虽然砸郭，但还是有些底线。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54abeb656190b881ee5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q8881a7ef14dc04a72ea3","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":140,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-09-07T13:13:12.656Z","text":"本人不挺也不砸，只是卑微地希望可以拿回自己的血漢錢。\n\n想挺想砸的都請便！\n\n留在這群里至少不用擔心被騙錢，\n不用擔心被人打成偽類踢出群\n組。\n各位可以自由表達自己的想法。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54abeb656190b881ee5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8881a7ef14dc04a72ea3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54abeb656190b881ee5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q3a61bf1778174540f5fe","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":141,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T13:15:08.580Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] \n自诉捅刀帮的[屏蔽词]们还有一个宣传的口号：\n\n起码人家名字已经登上了美国司法部、二巡。\n\n我认为是：\n\n现在[屏蔽词]把吃上了屎当成炫耀的资本，真[屏蔽词]奇葩。\n\n这相当于说，它终于不是处男了，\n\n哪里管是强奸母猪还是母狗。反正就是不是处男了。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a61bf1778174540f5fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q7f8fc61997adb60fd178","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":142,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T13:18:59.678Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 我相信你可以拿回来的。我现在起诉的[屏蔽词]们，是四处逃，不敢接诉状。我通过合法的调查机构调查到，对方为了躲诉状，搬家多次，还用它儿子的名义买了很多房产，还有其他一些信息，这些大概率是被骗的款项。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8881a7ef14dc04a72ea3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f8fc61997adb60fd178","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8881a7ef14dc04a72ea3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q05635e4420e2218522af","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":143,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-07T13:20:59.349Z","text":"喜交所不就是余挪用，锅扣郭头上吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q187b19d56e395bf60417","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05635e4420e2218522af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q187b19d56e395bf60417","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q2a98b8290df7ad8e5325","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":144,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T13:23:27.061Z","text":"rico模式下，小弟犯罪就是老大犯罪。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05635e4420e2218522af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a98b8290df7ad8e5325","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05635e4420e2218522af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q578c985b6fa9b1b7f1cf","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":145,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-07T13:25:05.446Z","text":"Rico一招就把老郭办了，他天天说朱利安尼，自己没防着这一手吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a98b8290df7ad8e5325","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q578c985b6fa9b1b7f1cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a98b8290df7ad8e5325","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qab03ae2c7007309cbd9a","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":146,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T13:26:10.613Z","text":"资产隔离。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q578c985b6fa9b1b7f1cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab03ae2c7007309cbd9a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q578c985b6fa9b1b7f1cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qa96bda67469a0e268be1","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":147,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-07T13:28:24.226Z","text":"显然是没隔离成功啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab03ae2c7007309cbd9a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa96bda67469a0e268be1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab03ae2c7007309cbd9a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q41a568cd784149e6a755","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":148,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T13:29:18.935Z","text":"没成功，被告不会说luc应该作证。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa96bda67469a0e268be1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41a568cd784149e6a755","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa96bda67469a0e268be1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q4a2044d60191268b2a74","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":149,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:29:21.122Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 哪个大号？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q570f539bbd5fe781a0ad","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a2044d60191268b2a74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qbbe6a60a10834fa3eb47","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":150,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:30:46.318Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 你怎么证明这个是我的大号？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4defee178eeebc2d901d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbe6a60a10834fa3eb47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qd6d27dec0f13594af202","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":151,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T13:31:08.015Z","text":"你在南区法院上，你自个提交的材料","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6d27dec0f13594af202","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q42dd00833e52e14d5159","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":152,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:31:10.240Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 你说这个大号在南区法院被认证过 哪个文件？ 你找出来","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42dd00833e52e14d5159","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q52cdbd987cab837c7316","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":153,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:31:30.697Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  我从来没提交过任何文件","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd6d27dec0f13594af202","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52cdbd987cab837c7316","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6d27dec0f13594af202","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qbf99462ba5a8d3158d37","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":154,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T13:31:43.492Z","text":"我知道就好，因为这个号，我知道在南区法院，你提交的材料是有的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf99462ba5a8d3158d37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qae839c0caa56a7632f10","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":155,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T13:31:59.594Z","text":"这个是省去，我司法公证的费用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae839c0caa56a7632f10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q2063c4a1b60965392ead","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":156,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T13:32:09.470Z","text":"虽然钱不需要太多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2063c4a1b60965392ead","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q3b17a75a56ef13ad3aa9","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":157,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:32:13.587Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  我从来没有提交过","edited":true,"reply_to":"qbf99462ba5a8d3158d37","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b17a75a56ef13ad3aa9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf99462ba5a8d3158d37","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q9271d8d59112285972f1","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":158,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:32:46.710Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 你说我提交了 你找出来","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9271d8d59112285972f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q4a36b1f14da331749413","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":159,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:34:14.839Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  没有提交就是没有提交 怕[屏蔽词]啊 你意淫总该有个限度吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a36b1f14da331749413","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q19751e6b26910fac465a","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":160,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:37:36.971Z","text":"你都说你是意淫了 根本没有人会回你 你所谓法律程序都是假的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q09defc408caa57e8fac2","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19751e6b26910fac465a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qd3118c5997d18849dd79","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":161,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T13:40:07.553Z","text":"怂包就怂包，可能这两个月，我会先将对一些人的诉状送达的公示发出来","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd9e70082368cf37c1ad8","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3118c5997d18849dd79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q32b87000617b5fc91e00","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":162,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T13:40:18.656Z","text":"到时候，你来验证一下，是不是真的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32b87000617b5fc91e00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qa07010bd4c73aefdff7b","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":163,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:41:16.956Z","text":"你也都说了是可能","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3118c5997d18849dd79","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa07010bd4c73aefdff7b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3118c5997d18849dd79","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q83837db42a0ad1ca7d80","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":164,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:41:22.213Z","text":"可能 就是永远不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83837db42a0ad1ca7d80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qa60805415e7248740b50","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":165,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T13:42:00.264Z","text":"法官又不听我的话，我不知道法官的公示送达，是什么时候批下来的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa07010bd4c73aefdff7b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa60805415e7248740b50","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa07010bd4c73aefdff7b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf133a09d6ff6a5de9938","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":166,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:42:17.783Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 放屁 你之前还说法官是你买的","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa60805415e7248740b50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf133a09d6ff6a5de9938","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa60805415e7248740b50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qe3c2ace751e021bd7ca6","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":167,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-07T13:43:11.118Z","text":"我可没有说过这个话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3c2ace751e021bd7ca6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q715e40e2f025327498cf","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":168,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:43:18.002Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  你之前说了 法官是你花钱买的","edited":true,"reply_to":"q10ad64203029345c5267","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q715e40e2f025327498cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q7457b9c1a79a5645cf5b","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":169,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:43:57.920Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 你还嘲笑群里不懂的人 不懂法官可以花钱买","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7457b9c1a79a5645cf5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf23fd0fdc16a0d103b28","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":170,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T13:54:55.921Z","text":"在缅甸水牢 对时间感受确实不那么敏感 理解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf23fd0fdc16a0d103b28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q1d04cb81f532d1e70271","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":171,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T14:14:56.563Z","text":"这个[屏蔽词]安小东 ［用户 him***］ ，和CVRA算是杠上了\n左手在这个群，推销853n，右手在推，天天骂CVRA\n演的累不累 ，大家都审美疲劳了\nCVRA是权利，用不用，是第三方自己的事\n问题关键是，青藤和AVa，并没有在庭上用CVRA啊\n［用户 him***］ 法盲🤣 🤣 🤣 \nhttps://x.com/anxiaodong777/status/2096942274789687365?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d04cb81f532d1e70271","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q3f566632033eac97fc65","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":172,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-09-07T14:29:20.603Z","text":"你们不要对骂演戏刷屏了。所有农场主的信息都是公开的，你起诉谁了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0af8f83b4e16ec5045eb","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f566632033eac97fc65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qc51527f8ba78be4e3dce","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":173,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-09-07T14:30:28.367Z","text":"你们不都是自己人？就不要天天起诉起诉啦，好不好？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc51527f8ba78be4e3dce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q27d049bbe5937ba19bae","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":174,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T14:30:58.125Z","text":"农场主被起诉 ［用户 him***］ 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anthon团队看来阶级分明","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q914751186145a25e25a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qb224ac6165346a975a70","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":199,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-09-07T14:51:02.100Z","text":"盖尔如果真的是为郭说话的，他为什么不提债权人登记？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q62ea6e00c331809e442f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb224ac6165346a975a70","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62ea6e00c331809e442f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q0b56fcdecedbe17f135a","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":200,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-07T14:51:42.963Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 你是个[屏蔽词] 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