{"id":"batch-000157","number":157,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-09-07T06:12:57.532Z","date_end":"2026-09-08T23:01:04.724Z","total_messages":480,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 157 (Sep 7, 2026 – Sep 8, 2026), 480 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants analyzed criminal proceedings, examining how fund tracing and financing channels affect fraud, money laundering, and RICO allegations. Debates emerged over whether farm leaders withheld loan funds, while contributors disputed the appropriateness of CVRA filings and 853(n) actions. Speakers also assessed witness credibility cited in Southern District document 415, page 141, and argued over rumors regarding an associate's detention. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Discussion on the Impact of Fund Tracing and Financing Channels on Fraud and Money Laundering Charges","description":"Participants analyze how fund tracing and transaction channels impact money laundering and fraud charges. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q6648a50abd37609f5014","q8596ba5bad6938ae4c7e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6648a50abd37609f5014","summary_en":"kir*** contends that this would trigger a judicial conflict over the legal nature of the funds. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8596ba5bad6938ae4c7e","summary_en":"kir*** argues that such a conflict would cause the prosecution's case to collapse. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Discussion on Farm Loan Fund Flows, Non-Prosecution Agreements, and Recovery Disputes","description":"Participants examine farm loan fund flows, non-prosecution agreements, and fund recovery disputes. 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Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Analysis of Prosecution Witness Credibility, Defense Performance, and Second Circuit Appeal Strategy","description":"Participants evaluate prosecution witness credibility, defense advocacy, and Second Circuit appeal strategies. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qd3afd9c0ffc9926e4c40","q80a366c04e5677c3e430","q8ff319ecbf4ead998af1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd3afd9c0ffc9926e4c40","summary_en":"kir*** notes that the observation concerning defense arguments is a valid point. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q80a366c04e5677c3e430","summary_en":"kir*** shares an external link discussing case developments and defense strategies. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8ff319ecbf4ead998af1","summary_en":"kir*** questions the use of prosecution witness Li Ya's testimony, citing Southern District document 415, page 141, where the witness admitted parental intimidation by the CCP. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Discussion on Himalaya Exchange Liability Attribution, RICO Charge Patterns, and Asset Segregation","description":"Participants dispute liability attribution for Himalaya Exchange and allegations of fund misappropriation. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q05635e4420e2218522af","q19e2c72f39916b8d87c2","q080c31815168954fa905"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q05635e4420e2218522af","summary_en":"ntp*** contends that funds from the Himalaya Exchange were misappropriated by Yu while the blame was placed on Guo. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q19e2c72f39916b8d87c2","summary_en":"ntp*** shares a broadcast link and asks if anyone recognizes the individual featured. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q080c31815168954fa905","summary_en":"reb*** notes that earlier group discussions had already clearly detailed the scrutiny surrounding Gair. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Disagreements over the Feasibility of Rights-Defense Lawsuits, CVRA Application, and Legal Risks","description":"Participants debate the procedural validity, CVRA applicability, and risks of independent victim actions. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q1bc1f23007e5da932944","q1d04cb81f532d1e70271","q3c01f9b9403331d38906"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1bc1f23007e5da932944","summary_en":"ken*** states that community members remain present even when they stay silent. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1d04cb81f532d1e70271","summary_en":"joh*** criticizes user him*** for promoting 853(n) while attacking the CVRA, arguing that exercising CVRA rights is an independent choice and observing that certain individuals did not invoke the CVRA in court. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3c01f9b9403331d38906","summary_en":"joh*** responds that they have not heard of the person in question. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Speculation Regarding Rumors of Key Individuals' Detention and Their Impact on Prosecution Evidence","description":"Participants discuss rumors regarding the detention of key individuals and speculate on evidentiary impacts. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q1eae466236d861cf1eeb","q0863bc20bd923fd8b80f","qf97b3b79dba22460ba38"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1eae466236d861cf1eeb","summary_en":"xia*** asks whether the individual known as Brother Luosi has been released. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0863bc20bd923fd8b80f","summary_en":"kir*** recounts that Brother Luosi's mother said a village party secretary informed them of the situation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf97b3b79dba22460ba38","summary_en":"may*** makes a colloquial remark alleging that Brother Luosi has died. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Dispute over the Authenticity of Court Filings and Service of Process","description":"Participants dispute account identities and the authenticity of court filings shared in the group. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4a2044d60191268b2a74","qbbe6a60a10834fa3eb47"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4a2044d60191268b2a74","summary_en":"kir*** asks user hah*** which primary account they are referring to. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qbbe6a60a10834fa3eb47","summary_en":"kir*** challenges user hah*** to prove that the account belongs to them. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Community Moderation Conflicts and Dispute over Framing Prompted by Detention Rumors","description":"Participants debate moderation policies and conflicting official characterizations following detention rumors. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qbae62f4cc52df9cde236","qf885df303b8942b1e9e9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qbae62f4cc52df9cde236","summary_en":"ken*** proposes establishing a group rule to remove members who repeatedly share personal identity information. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf885df303b8942b1e9e9","summary_en":"reb*** recounts that Langfang state security officials previously framed the matter as fraud rather than an offense against national security, arguing that a formal indictment remains unlikely unless officials overturn their previous stance. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"本次讨论主要围绕涉案法律诉讼及社群争议展开。多名讨论者探讨了资金追踪与出资渠道对洗钱、诈骗及RICO共谋等罪名成立的影响，并就农场借贷资金留存、不起诉协议及追偿范围产生分歧。关于诉讼进程，部分发言者深入评估一审抗辩记录、辩护律师表现及检方证人证言可信度，探讨二巡上诉的前景；同时就“自诉”行动可行性、CVRA程序适用及相关法律风险展开激烈辨析。此外，围绕关键涉案人员被拘留等外界传言，讨论者对其人身现状、政治背景及其对检方指控与证据链条的潜在冲击提出多种推测与对立观点。群内亦就法院材料提交与送达真实性、社群管理规则及言论定调等问题发生了直接争吵与立场对立。","guide":[{"title":"讨论资金追踪与出资渠道对诈骗及洗钱罪名的影响","message_ids":["q6648a50abd37609f5014","q8596ba5bad6938ae4c7e"]},{"title":"探讨农场借贷资金流向、不起诉协议及追偿争议","message_ids":["q2aa636205248287d7a7c","qa61d37c209ac00f9a27f","qd3dd1a41592e51978222"]},{"title":"分析检方证人证言可信度、辩护表现与二巡上诉策略","message_ids":["qd3afd9c0ffc9926e4c40","q80a366c04e5677c3e430","q8ff319ecbf4ead998af1"]},{"title":"围绕喜交所责任归属、RICO指控模式与资产隔离的讨论","message_ids":["q05635e4420e2218522af","q19e2c72f39916b8d87c2","q080c31815168954fa905"]},{"title":"就维权自诉可行性、CVRA适用及法律风险产生的意见分歧","message_ids":["q1bc1f23007e5da932944","q1d04cb81f532d1e70271","q3c01f9b9403331d38906"]},{"title":"关注相关涉案人员被拘传闻及其对指控证据影响的推测","message_ids":["q1eae466236d861cf1eeb","q0863bc20bd923fd8b80f","qf97b3b79dba22460ba38"]},{"title":"围绕法院材料提交与诉讼送达真实性的激烈争执","message_ids":["q4a2044d60191268b2a74","qbbe6a60a10834fa3eb47"]},{"title":"涉案传闻引发的社群定调冲突与管理追责争议","message_ids":["qbae62f4cc52df9cde236","qf885df303b8942b1e9e9"]}],"closed":false,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-09T08:39:44.286Z","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157/pages/3","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000157?page=3","page":3,"page_size":200,"total_pages":3,"has_more":false,"next_url":null,"prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000157?page=2","messages":[{"id":"q5e44a56307a74620ab87","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":401,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-08T05:32:04.316Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 这位负责拱火","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e44a56307a74620ab87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qb5c1359f0ae6eae84a67","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":402,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-08T05:34:43.614Z","text":"［用户 cin***］ 这位，也有级别，类似 ［用户 him***］\n可以直接命令 ［用户 may***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5c1359f0ae6eae84a67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qad4c2782f0c6026a8aa8","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":403,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-08T06:00:08.163Z","text":"这是，内讧了？\n什么项目🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad4c2782f0c6026a8aa8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qa0ffd2bed7768beab025","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":404,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T06:17:49.951Z","text":"还能这么玩","edited":false,"reply_to":"q88ef157944ac89273770","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0ffd2bed7768beab025","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88ef157944ac89273770","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q6f68f06f09e6808fbcf9","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":405,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-08T06:19:19.030Z","text":"我觉得 是他们知道 我会写毁灭性的信过去 他们出了mdc可能大概率拿不到信了 他们不知道我的信写了什么 所以防御性的这么说","edited":false,"reply_to":"qad4c2782f0c6026a8aa8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f68f06f09e6808fbcf9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad4c2782f0c6026a8aa8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf077e65ff09a0c54c4fd","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":406,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T06:23:25.970Z","text":"一个政庇就都拿捏住了， ［用户 pus***］ 说的没错，相当一部分是来蹭绿卡的，这个软肋被灭爆掐死了","edited":true,"reply_to":"qeae502466fd204d876e2","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf077e65ff09a0c54c4fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q12eac0bd8e6a65f99959","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":407,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-09-08T06:25:27.964Z","text":"郭会让律师出来说出联盟的非法行为？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f68f06f09e6808fbcf9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12eac0bd8e6a65f99959","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f68f06f09e6808fbcf9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q6e542bc1f55f5fb51edd","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":408,"speaker":"xia***","date":"2026-09-08T06:31:14.222Z","text":"螺丝哥出来了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e542bc1f55f5fb51edd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q22d755aa3ffdc6f855a1","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":409,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T06:38:02.180Z","text":"唉，看来要耍流氓到底了，既抓人还不按手续来，不想留任何证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8538655b5e85c65ccd73","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22d755aa3ffdc6f855a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8538655b5e85c65ccd73","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qfb475f84620751ca8377","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":410,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T06:39:27.873Z","text":"幕后的下棋人想做到滴水不漏","edited":false,"reply_to":"qff59a83d1a32ea383519","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb475f84620751ca8377","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff59a83d1a32ea383519","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q4e49cb633162a3d8b395","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":411,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-08T06:42:06.378Z","text":"郭没有律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q12eac0bd8e6a65f99959","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e49cb633162a3d8b395","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12eac0bd8e6a65f99959","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q6dab0d94dfa07a57758f","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":412,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-08T06:52:24.612Z","text":"这是给喜国剩下的4000网格员维稳\n万一郭真的说了啥，他们也说这是假的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f68f06f09e6808fbcf9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dab0d94dfa07a57758f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f68f06f09e6808fbcf9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q0dae26a3b8cdc1e9f39c","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":413,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-08T06:53:22.243Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6dab0d94dfa07a57758f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dae26a3b8cdc1e9f39c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dab0d94dfa07a57758f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q3e05ecae48ca0473319c","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":414,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-08T06:54:55.610Z","text":"郭死不死，无所谓，但是只有他们，能代表郭，利用郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0dae26a3b8cdc1e9f39c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e05ecae48ca0473319c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dae26a3b8cdc1e9f39c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q335899a68df40cc8557a","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":415,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-08T06:55:45.902Z","text":"换梯队，换马甲，互骂，都是演戏，但是话语权不能脱离他们控制","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q335899a68df40cc8557a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q9004ae6ad8a63a178532","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":416,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-08T06:57:15.028Z","text":"政庇，拿法治基金的钱，这样300骨干都有把柄在联盟，必须依附而且听话","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf077e65ff09a0c54c4fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9004ae6ad8a63a178532","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf077e65ff09a0c54c4fd","r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him***］ 安小东，和屁酱第三梯队，似乎很乐意看到这个结果","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf2dafa8c85305bd6d5d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q717fca5de28a01fb66bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2dafa8c85305bd6d5d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf967315f51fadf779376","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":420,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-08T07:04:38.392Z","text":"难怪 ［用户 cin***］ 对 ［用户 him***］ 很不满","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf967315f51fadf779376","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q8f3dafd4006ec11f944f","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":421,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T07:06:12.360Z","text":"这么屁大个群，里面的事儿足够拍一部宫斗大剧了😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfc0abf595842aa6b4c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f3dafd4006ec11f944f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfc0abf595842aa6b4c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q5e4016ba0ae9cef90384","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":422,"speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-09-08T07:07:56.040Z","text":"你想象力比瑞恩差一点  瑞恩看看笔记本就知道 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就是被骗钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb8939dcfe634889691af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ab018ad436021e17d91","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8939dcfe634889691af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q91b50ef71df00ef11832","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":431,"speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-09-08T16:24:26.904Z","text":"瑞恩嘴里有真话吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91b50ef71df00ef11832","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf6bff63143faaaa58f93","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":432,"speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-09-08T16:24:39.791Z","text":"打了电话10天\n他这么龟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6bff63143faaaa58f93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qaf430c981e35f28f73c7","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":433,"speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-09-08T16:24:48.868Z","text":"哪里敢打电话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf430c981e35f28f73c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qaad5d62a5cfba319c611","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":434,"speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-09-08T16:24:57.291Z","text":"只会瞎编","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaad5d62a5cfba319c611","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q365153e4b58cd104fc57","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":435,"speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-09-08T16:25:39.315Z","text":"嘴里会有一句真话吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q365153e4b58cd104fc57","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qc6a89e290c4d755516a4","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":436,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-09-08T16:25:44.898Z","text":"政治路线和利益都是会变的，但是派系和人脉很难变\n\n陈云以前是极左的，但是他的徒弟朱镕基和王岐山都把自己包装成改革派，七哥也说过王岐山可左可右，就看局势和利益的需要。习一开始在浙江任职的时候肯定不可能是极左的。丁薛祥在上海干了这么久，如果按上海帮标准应该属于上海帮，但是他成了习最信任的人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q200fa18429fc8ac60c95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6a89e290c4d755516a4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q200fa18429fc8ac60c95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf97b3b79dba22460ba38","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":437,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-08T17:10:11.836Z","text":"螺丝哥投胎了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf97b3b79dba22460ba38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q2eb28fa65441581395ce","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":438,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T18:54:43.410Z","text":"螺丝哥是今年才开始在X上得瑟公开认罪的吗？我在x查最早的是4月15号的 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真关心就像我一样打电话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe84226bbee6aeea91ade","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q45e2c2ed44a1d2e51343","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":440,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-08T18:59:36.488Z","text":"喜国人虚伪的一批","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45e2c2ed44a1d2e51343","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qc3ccbebbbcbb0a5c7b0f","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":441,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T19:16:46.153Z","text":"明知道打不通还打，谁虚伪？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe84226bbee6aeea91ade","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3ccbebbbcbb0a5c7b0f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe84226bbee6aeea91ade","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q5cf1cd3dda8a98d22006","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":442,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T19:17:02.966Z","text":"演给谁看呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cf1cd3dda8a98d22006","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qba1ebf291b28dae4a982","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":443,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-09-08T20:23:25.152Z","text":"神經病！道德綁架？\n螺絲天天扯著大嗓子叫叫叫！\n自找的！\n憑什麼就必須關心他？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe84226bbee6aeea91ade","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba1ebf291b28dae4a982","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe84226bbee6aeea91ade","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q2203b5dd51b45c81865c","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":444,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-09-08T21:17:21.926Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 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就行了 其他的 不用","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe08f38d6a4d503f7273e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ddbf81ded6cc0013f5a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe08f38d6a4d503f7273e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q59b71e2212f84895c2e2","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":463,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-08T21:55:43.633Z","text":"我保证检方一个字都不敢提","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5259822e544883007646","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59b71e2212f84895c2e2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5259822e544883007646","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q7c8350880349cfed3d8d","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":464,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-09-08T21:58:08.880Z","text":"这样能不能让检方以证人身份传他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c8350880349cfed3d8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qaa55fd4614f6cd118aa5","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":465,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-09-08T21:58:48.712Z","text":"他不是检方认定的受害人吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa55fd4614f6cd118aa5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qb20929fb6e2e6e854f28","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":466,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T22:03:08.513Z","text":"好在螺丝自己多次在视频里说自己没有任何案底","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb20929fb6e2e6e854f28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qd4a71d0e17a00bc7ab89","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":467,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T22:03:20.028Z","text":"那抓他只能是因为投资的事了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4a71d0e17a00bc7ab89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf7448f01a54a0f8900fb","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":468,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T22:04:00.986Z","text":"老黄到现在也没做直播谈这个事，有点奇怪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7448f01a54a0f8900fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qaf3120de5533445da1f4","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":469,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T22:04:22.364Z","text":"螺丝可是他的大话题啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf3120de5533445da1f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q63bd071ef2293d209015","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":470,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T22:05:28.941Z","text":"是我们提了以后，检方会以没有证据为由否认","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59b71e2212f84895c2e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63bd071ef2293d209015","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59b71e2212f84895c2e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qf76a4c8018bd170ae23e","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":471,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-08T22:08:46.008Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］  检方不敢","edited":true,"reply_to":"q63bd071ef2293d209015","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf76a4c8018bd170ae23e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63bd071ef2293d209015","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qd4ced176008151760dd0","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":472,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-08T22:09:03.746Z","text":"检方绝不想卷入这种事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4ced176008151760dd0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"qedf3063185f51759b67b","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":473,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T22:17:47.826Z","text":"Q不敢直播了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e25670046d29681b8e5","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedf3063185f51759b67b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q9fd00a554d82fe3d4b41","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":474,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T22:18:10.575Z","text":"装没听见？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf76a4c8018bd170ae23e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fd00a554d82fe3d4b41","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf76a4c8018bd170ae23e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q7f0eb588b796c51e4201","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":475,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-08T22:43:15.752Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 对的","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9fd00a554d82fe3d4b41","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f0eb588b796c51e4201","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fd00a554d82fe3d4b41","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q9bb0ea0334373dcd331b","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":476,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-08T22:43:42.532Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 检方说 螺丝哥没证据 那律师说的1000多个喝茶 多少个报假案是不是真的？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bb0ea0334373dcd331b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q54534060b58a47530ced","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":477,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-08T22:43:58.769Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 检方只要回复 他就陷入困境","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54534060b58a47530ced","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q9d1d18db0d5a32c8c9ec","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":478,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-08T22:52:15.036Z","text":"这说的螺丝哥吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d1d18db0d5a32c8c9ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q91280597dfe74034aa88","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":479,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-08T22:56:29.355Z","text":"今天联盟的节目要听一次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91280597dfe74034aa88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"},{"id":"q9ac5e485f7d19699d00f","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":480,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-08T23:01:04.724Z","text":"直接说不要给他写信就完了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ac5e485f7d19699d00f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000156","next_batch_id":null}