{"id":"batch-000158","number":158,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-09-11T05:44:37.259Z","date_end":"2026-09-17T04:09:31.308Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 158 (Sep 11, 2026 – Sep 17, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Community members discussed criminal and bankruptcy litigation involving Guo Wengui, weighing the Second Circuit appeal prospects against evidentiary limits and potential sentencing hearings. Participants debated whether the Second Circuit would reject Crime Victims' Rights Act claims regarding Rule 32 sentencing disputes or address alleged procedural errors. 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him."},{"message_id":"q94cde6107e9883e66c22","summary_en":"may*** contends that the Alliance could never have defrauded victims of their money without Guo."}]},{"title":"Discussions on Farm Leaders' Financial Dealings, Factional Conflicts, and Legal Risks","description":"Participants discuss conflicts between farm leaders and speculate on the motives behind newly issued tokens.","message_ids":["q54acae929c595863ee8d","q6c50dba6fe9ac3774739"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q54acae929c595863ee8d","summary_en":"joh*** argues that Qingteng risks criminal exposure by pressuring Changdao without possessing a non-prosecution agreement regarding withheld funds."},{"message_id":"q6c50dba6fe9ac3774739","summary_en":"joh*** contends that Qingteng issued Getter coin to launder previous funds and maintain the loyalty of core operators rather than merely soliciting money."}]},{"title":"Reflections on Financial Losses and Mutual Accusations Across Farm Factions","description":"Participants reflect on 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就是可能他们觉得时间不多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38e872a7dd4c195211ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q1da5f03afffc64c1a8a2","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":4,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T05:46:08.042Z","text":"所以检方他们与luc和解，给自己擦屁股啊，比如Mahwah，债权人登记\n再把300骨干卖掉，做假证都是未起诉共谋的锅","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8961cd8eaf3069ec8f72","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1da5f03afffc64c1a8a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8961cd8eaf3069ec8f72","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qe9b34e9fc3586ed5d1f0","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":5,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T05:47:50.313Z","text":"问题是，长岛先和解，保了自己，他有不起诉协议，留下其他农场主等着被起诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9b34e9fc3586ed5d1f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q54135b8e7765c1cb2d5f","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":6,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T05:48:09.056Z","text":"这也太不厚道了吧，不就是背叛🤣 \n就像你 ［用户 _ki***］你卖了 ［用户 cin***］ 吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54135b8e7765c1cb2d5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q7e1d0ca3b61a4e3ad170","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":7,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-11T05:49:07.385Z","text":"上面写信的这个人是不是联盟/郭先生电话口中的伪类？ 😂😂😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e1d0ca3b61a4e3ad170","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q66a0dd6acb77cbeb2315","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":8,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-11T05:49:44.754Z","text":"比伪类难对付一万倍。🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7e1d0ca3b61a4e3ad170","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66a0dd6acb77cbeb2315","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e1d0ca3b61a4e3ad170","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q2b050a7e65f0650b25be","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":9,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-11T05:50:04.374Z","text":"好像是联盟工作汇报（我看的简报）说不要里伪类 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b050a7e65f0650b25be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q9c473d1a0577bec32ae4","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":10,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-11T05:50:12.264Z","text":"新型绝杀伪类","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c473d1a0577bec32ae4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q14a8e3d9be7ddea59de9","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":11,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T05:52:50.952Z","text":"又说农场不能找理由，不退投资，这不就是长岛和解惹的祸，都知道了农场账户，并没有被冻结\n之前农场主都集体在撒谎，没想到被长岛卖了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b050a7e65f0650b25be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14a8e3d9be7ddea59de9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b050a7e65f0650b25be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q9186eebc457810955ae0","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":12,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-11T06:08:59.450Z","text":"联盟负责人咋不早说给战友退款事宜呢？ 就问他们一句话： 联盟的人， 给哪个普通投资人/战友干了/帮忙一件实事？\n\n他们连基本的信息都遮遮掩掩 不让真战友/投资人知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14a8e3d9be7ddea59de9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9186eebc457810955ae0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14a8e3d9be7ddea59de9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qba47b09e21d4f8b0681c","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":13,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T06:10:54.004Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 出了mdc 他们就拿不到信了😂","edited":true,"reply_to":"q7e1d0ca3b61a4e3ad170","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba47b09e21d4f8b0681c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e1d0ca3b61a4e3ad170","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qa593ae3ff5ead8fe3245","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":14,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-11T06:12:52.069Z","text":"好像是青藤有一期节目（最近的/我1.5倍速度看完 ）说郭先生的信件他们保管？？？ - 也可能我听错了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa593ae3ff5ead8fe3245","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q8ca448238990d9ddaf23","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":15,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T06:13:08.162Z","text":"300农场主骨干 都是他们圈子的“自己人”","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9186eebc457810955ae0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ca448238990d9ddaf23","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9186eebc457810955ae0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qfa3a24938b22f326ff1b","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":16,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T06:13:44.686Z","text":"他们有什么权力保管 这不违规嘛 检方登记受害人保管被告信件😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa593ae3ff5ead8fe3245","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa3a24938b22f326ff1b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa593ae3ff5ead8fe3245","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q62dcccb7e13de9be7561","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":17,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T06:13:57.383Z","text":"共同说资金被冻结，不给退投资\n没想到长岛这个二五仔，把他们卖了🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62dcccb7e13de9be7561","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q6658e8157fff8bf4d6e5","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":18,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-11T06:14:26.130Z","text":"盖特币发布， 老郭又给佳佳电话了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6658e8157fff8bf4d6e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qf45d3cf97183be9a98b7","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":19,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T06:14:39.995Z","text":"老郭各种电话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf45d3cf97183be9a98b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q8266de09d507d0045837","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":20,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T06:14:48.305Z","text":"不是还给六郎君电话了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8266de09d507d0045837","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q9661e7a8f7d6e2072952","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":21,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-11T06:15:58.614Z","text":"老郭这么多电话， 咋不聊聊他的案件呢 - 啥时候翻案 我好度假去。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9661e7a8f7d6e2072952","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q7cd81604f781e5148f2e","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":22,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T06:18:20.266Z","text":"AI打电话，多线操作","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8266de09d507d0045837","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cd81604f781e5148f2e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8266de09d507d0045837","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qbc91bb719bc75e4b6feb","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":23,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2026-09-11T06:19:13.719Z","text":"我以前的盖特币怎么没有了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc91bb719bc75e4b6feb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q91f57dda16aab5cba40c","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":24,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T06:21:08.014Z","text":"［用户 beg***］  哈哈 二巡没一个律师敢接案","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9661e7a8f7d6e2072952","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91f57dda16aab5cba40c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9661e7a8f7d6e2072952","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q1a4356e0472f7feb8a2b","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":25,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-11T06:22:32.202Z","text":"不是说（那个非赢利机构）他们有能力干吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a4356e0472f7feb8a2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q7df0e6a07d4234f24a68","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":26,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-11T06:22:49.337Z","text":"我的也没有了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbc91bb719bc75e4b6feb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7df0e6a07d4234f24a68","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc91bb719bc75e4b6feb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q9b6f6309eb7782ee282f","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":27,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T06:22:51.599Z","text":"然后到现在还没人接","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a4356e0472f7feb8a2b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b6f6309eb7782ee282f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a4356e0472f7feb8a2b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qa6c887ccdab934bacfee","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":28,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T06:23:01.283Z","text":"喜国人竟然不买币","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6c887ccdab934bacfee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qbdfdd0d297364ef6c4d2","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":29,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T06:23:15.218Z","text":"我估计那个主管瞎鸡吧吹牛 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这事情要把南区的天给捅了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaf546c80d08ba14e421","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q865ccb6d3724d8ce878e","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":45,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T06:30:17.379Z","text":"这个 ［用户 cin***］ 以前和 Percy一起，法律专业","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q865ccb6d3724d8ce878e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qb033c432b32d9260ccea","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":46,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T06:30:28.093Z","text":"懂得这个事的影响","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb033c432b32d9260ccea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q0fa626b81f9217036f89","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":47,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T06:30:38.911Z","text":"安小东是法盲，以为肉身限制，就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fa626b81f9217036f89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q297231b0aa9c274be043","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":48,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T06:30:55.845Z","text":"对的 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脑残","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39c30c97717762cf7a75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qcb0eb79b08e7213a01e0","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":50,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T06:32:37.886Z","text":"二位级别应该差不多，半斤八两","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb0eb79b08e7213a01e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qcc916f7362946d08fad3","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":51,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-11T06:38:23.589Z","text":"不寄法宝实在涨不动啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6658e8157fff8bf4d6e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc916f7362946d08fad3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6658e8157fff8bf4d6e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qfb79f1c878a934931a98","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":52,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-11T06:38:38.092Z","text":"［用户 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ntp***］ 这个里面","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd1ec9086130ad51deadc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4803c73af980b837848","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1ec9086130ad51deadc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q03c735c2aa5949924fb8","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":60,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-11T08:03:06.444Z","text":"那个帖子链接有吗？哪也找不到了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14a8e3d9be7ddea59de9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03c735c2aa5949924fb8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14a8e3d9be7ddea59de9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qbf4f6dd7f34d97f8717b","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":61,"speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-09-11T09:45:11.720Z","text":"瑞恩就说 他是故意骗人的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf4f6dd7f34d97f8717b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qee0b896e6f54b6c07048","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":62,"speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-09-11T09:45:20.829Z","text":"虽然没人信他 他又高兴起来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee0b896e6f54b6c07048","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qe314c9b555c4b2e32c71","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":63,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T09:50:02.049Z","text":"他和郭文贵玩的那套一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe314c9b555c4b2e32c71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q5cf271d5a665f5aea49a","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":64,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T09:56:12.185Z","text":"你得等三十年 而且还是在他不第一时间被遣返的情况下 他才有一丁点儿可能重新谈谈当年的事 但讲真我认为根本不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c8aceb1e34978056392","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cf271d5a665f5aea49a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q2ade2d1b8030a883d145","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":65,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T09:56:57.689Z","text":"三十年后没有任何人会在随口谈起郭文贵事件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ade2d1b8030a883d145","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q898bf9dcea03dd31fe71","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":66,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-11T11:02:31.678Z","text":"它们这些自诉捅刀帮，和共产党一样，扣帽子，污蔑，没有依据的扯蛋，没有任何的信用，还有人跟着它们吃屎，这就有意思了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q474fbac8c0dc7c3abadd","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q898bf9dcea03dd31fe71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q6decdecd015ac06ca915","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":67,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T11:32:00.710Z","text":"差不多也还是能拿回一半多钱吧？也还好 我之前以为只能拿回很少","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6decdecd015ac06ca915","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q022ee268343464607327","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":68,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T11:32:30.210Z","text":"反正钱一退 大部分人应该就不再关心这档子事儿了  除了那个傻缺战斗士这种","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q022ee268343464607327","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q342ca630330c87b16b4b","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":69,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T11:49:32.126Z","text":"你放心 哪怕一分不退 郭出新项目照样梭哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q022ee268343464607327","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q342ca630330c87b16b4b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q022ee268343464607327","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qd374bd4e789542edc82a","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":70,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T11:50:11.875Z","text":"这个钱不解决 郭已经没信用了 只有脑残还会再信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd374bd4e789542edc82a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q4392d58f4adea6ccc800","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":71,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T11:50:28.297Z","text":"一个人没了信用 讲什么都是放屁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4392d58f4adea6ccc800","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qdf666dec85746fc59422","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":72,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T11:50:39.303Z","text":"郭怎么可能本人再出来推新项目 三十年后的事了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf666dec85746fc59422","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q308e8b4fbb7fed714899","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":73,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T11:51:05.906Z","text":"郭这个人本事还是有的 他到时候能把这事说成上天的礼物","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q308e8b4fbb7fed714899","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qab2e4f632a5da8021c2e","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":74,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T11:51:22.525Z","text":"他那张嘴就是财富","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab2e4f632a5da8021c2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qbc7c608e8222ac7fe6d6","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":75,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T11:51:40.085Z","text":"中国十几亿人 总有傻子信的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc7c608e8222ac7fe6d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q4a70d832cf2ec11044d7","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":76,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T11:52:30.601Z","text":"首先年龄不行 80来岁出来讲今天这套 没人理的 那时候他也没有今天的资产傍身了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a70d832cf2ec11044d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qf3962e149d6e7d0a1f13","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":77,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T11:53:01.799Z","text":"其次 他会被遣返 继续坐牢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3962e149d6e7d0a1f13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qa7c66adfa9712f4affc2","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":78,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T12:18:32.689Z","text":"但反过来想想 这个整个闹剧里 输的就底儿吊的其实是郭文贵本人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7c66adfa9712f4affc2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q706ab52c2a9c53d37fa1","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":79,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T12:20:28.223Z","text":"从这个角度看 我觉得他本人得到了应有的报应","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q706ab52c2a9c53d37fa1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qbdfbdf9aaa15bea24a81","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":80,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T12:23:01.488Z","text":"喜国人从钱袋子和精神上已经彻底毁灭了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdfbdf9aaa15bea24a81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q44b3a92e2779e77b1a17","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":81,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T12:23:51.296Z","text":"老齐确实惨 没想到他痴信到这种程度","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44b3a92e2779e77b1a17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q638ec748683a3c2a904d","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":82,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T12:25:20.459Z","text":"他是真信自己傍着郭投资者这个身份在法庭上 就没人敢动他  他丁点儿不懂中国运作的实际逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q638ec748683a3c2a904d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qb6f6c5be7204c37612ed","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":83,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T12:25:44.347Z","text":"现在好了 如果没死的话 他出来不好找工作了刑事案不好应聘","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6f6c5be7204c37612ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q114255f933dc9ac08403","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":84,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T12:34:39.074Z","text":"刑事拘留在中国基本上废了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q114255f933dc9ac08403","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qc20ea4a276438de9f5f7","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":85,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T12:34:42.495Z","text":"没人要的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc20ea4a276438de9f5f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q4876cd3378c43b2e5854","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":86,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T12:35:20.125Z","text":"这就是郭送给他的人生","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4876cd3378c43b2e5854","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q5b25c6b55df0e3823cef","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":87,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-11T12:35:26.944Z","text":"谷底中的谷底","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b25c6b55df0e3823cef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qbbb0a5ee4ee512a65d1d","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":88,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-11T12:54:45.481Z","text":"假如不是自杀了 那我真挺好奇他说了什么上升到刑事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbb0a5ee4ee512a65d1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q2151ecdc34a4dc4a6b99","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":89,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T13:25:34.982Z","text":"https://x.com/yunshuicha9521/status/2098323676898959733?s=46 这个人牢底坐穿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2151ecdc34a4dc4a6b99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q9a8e4769c1a83a7ddb79","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":90,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T13:26:00.422Z","text":"这个人可没有螺丝哥这种不要命的信徒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a8e4769c1a83a7ddb79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q6a91b8f9ddbe8e8675a8","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":91,"speaker":"002***","date":"2026-09-11T14:42:45.882Z","text":"螺丝哥还没出来吗？这下要变缝纫哥了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q85cbfef5a86f52bc30e6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a91b8f9ddbe8e8675a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qde1dfe37776200795819","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":92,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T15:04:02.777Z","text":"［用户 cin***］ 最怕螺丝哥被刑事拘留的就是你啊","edited":true,"reply_to":"qbbb0a5ee4ee512a65d1d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde1dfe37776200795819","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbb0a5ee4ee512a65d1d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q308dcace7e16117a597b","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":93,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T16:16:52.636Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 别急 你爹长岛马上会在下一个二巡文件里面出现","edited":true,"reply_to":"qbc8b94491ae8bac6f54b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q308dcace7e16117a597b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q47e8f1057d6e994f2ab7","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":94,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T16:26:47.429Z","text":"如果之前tony的是深水炸弹","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47e8f1057d6e994f2ab7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q36b655408bb0decdb440","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":95,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T16:27:02.061Z","text":"那这次就是生化武器","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36b655408bb0decdb440","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q163c5bc0846dcc611e80","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":96,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T16:27:59.730Z","text":"郭文贵律师的上任时间已经接近异常了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q163c5bc0846dcc611e80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qe8f0607cb0707e9b32e1","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":97,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-11T16:28:24.295Z","text":"这样最好 最好他再也别有律师 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能不能关心一下螺丝哥 打个电话也行啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q354764e3d3c87c27309c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08d1c2ff776998835e34","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q354764e3d3c87c27309c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qf30102f1218b841ad997","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":123,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-12T02:15:12.763Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2098596222110212180?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf30102f1218b841ad997","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q4331e386f2bae389b153","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":124,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-12T02:20:07.168Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 这里最希望螺丝哥出来的就是你 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听说，你每周在上海农场有直播？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba348871445c827f1f2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q9404c20c6c3efc592d2e","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":160,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-12T11:25:00.225Z","text":"等下这个群，都去盖特围观啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9404c20c6c3efc592d2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q26cefeee8c761bdb64b5","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":161,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-12T11:25:52.460Z","text":"［用户 cin***］ 大卫观星人，直播时看到下面留言，z同学/[删节：成员身份]的时候，不要紧张哟🤣 🤣 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给齐春宏家那个派出所打打问问他情况吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaa48cfc8caca3190d79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qd29a4011844d55cfe6db","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":166,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-12T12:45:14.373Z","text":"他到底是被押还是放了 没个准信儿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd29a4011844d55cfe6db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q79b139aad24aec8b0777","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":167,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-12T12:49:19.566Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 根据他的住址 派出所是河北留善寺派出所\n电话0317-5061273 \n有意愿的小家伙们不妨打打问问 如果早放了 那肯定自杀了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79b139aad24aec8b0777","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q221d3ddc8d08c8faf819","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":168,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-12T14:42:32.497Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ \n安小东在造谣，她意思是，Qmay用CVRA身份介入了刑事案，难不成，二巡有个匿名的，是Qmay?🤣 🤣 🤣 \n安小东 ［用户 him***］ 把Qmay也卖了吗？\nhttps://x.com/anxiaodong777/status/2098701200036085941?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q221d3ddc8d08c8faf819","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q9428df5ff62204eeec08","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":169,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-09-12T14:50:31.024Z","text":"你们真的很可怜  我打心眼里同情你们  别好不容易拿回一半投资  再继续赔时间精力 甚至可能被这里别有用心的骗   交了自诉 等拿回钱 赶紧脱离所有喜国相关圈 好好做人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9428df5ff62204eeec08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qd02024c02f0cf8e97a1e","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":170,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-12T15:55:45.676Z","text":"你们这群自诉捅刀帮，比黄河边还不行，至少黄河边是真灭爆，而你们这群[屏蔽词]，专业污蔑，扣帽子。真它娘的[屏蔽词]。自诉捅刀帮的比乱轮彪还差劲","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd02024c02f0cf8e97a1e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q9a693faa5011b0f13471","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":171,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2026-09-12T16:09:24.086Z","text":"［用户 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给我下跪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q133808520dcf597ff717","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q18d6bfd47427d8a8f577","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":177,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-12T17:45:06.200Z","text":"看人家多聪明 比我更早知道郭文贵 人家就不投","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18d6bfd47427d8a8f577","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q1643ba95267fada199fd","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":178,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-12T17:47:29.725Z","text":"喜国人的致富梦[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1643ba95267fada199fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q1708d5252e845d3649b6","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":179,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-12T17:48:54.872Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 下周我让你看看什么叫article III 裁量权边界","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1708d5252e845d3649b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q01d49761211963a39b3a","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":180,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-12T18:35:10.247Z","text":"这帮人没有把柄在🐦手里？罗伊直播开骂\n\nhttps://x.com/dDiVul8m3g82864/status/2098649880831094898/video/1?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01d49761211963a39b3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q5313a938d8877756fe0e","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":181,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-09-12T18:35:54.426Z","text":"这一轮达到正式通知阈值，而且需要修正上一轮的一处结论强度。我已经拿到 2024年7月9日 Leanne Li 的完整庭审逐字记录。核完以后，上一轮我说“Guo本人直接介入要求Je开放审计、Je仍明确拒绝”这句话，作为已经进入jury record的事实说得过强了。\n\n真正进入陪审团记录、可以★★★★★固定的是下面这条较窄但仍然很有价值的事实链：\n\nGuo亲自派Li去HEX检查财务 → Li的指定联系人就是William Je → Je不给她任何账目 → Li回酒店后报告了此事，但法院阻止她复述相关谈话 → 随后建立了Guo、Je、Li和HEX员工Kathy四人的聊天群，而且群里有活动 → Li第二天再次去HEX → 仍然拿不到任何财务记录。\n\n原始trial record现在已经钉死\n\n23-cr-118，2024年7月9日 Trial Tr. 5667–5670。\n\nLi在direct明确说，是 “Mr. Miles”让她去伦敦，目的地是Himalaya Exchange。\n\n下一页她说得更具体：她要检查HEX的financial documents/statements，包括：\n\nbank statements、cash flow、balance sheet、income statement、work chart；\n\n而她被指定的联系人就是：\n\nWilliam Je。\n\n当她开始说“Mr. Miles—”解释为什么被派去查账时，Torres立即制止，提醒不能复述别人说的话。\n\n随后Li亲自去伦敦HEX办公室，见了Je。问她：\n\n是否获得任何HEX文件？\n\n她回答：\n\n“No.”\n\n当Defense继续问她被拒绝后是否向别人报告，Government提出objection，Torres又明确说：\n\n“You know what hearsay is … I don’t want you to elicit it.” \n\n真正关键的是下一页。Li确认她整个伦敦期间都没看到HEX账目；但随后建立了一个四人chat group：\n\nWilliam Je + Mr. Miles + Kathy（HEX员工）+ Leanne Li。\n\nDefense还特意对她说：\n\n“do not disclose the contents”\n\n只允许她证明群是active的。第二天她再次前往HEX，仍然没有获得任何financial records。\n\n而Government自己的cross把这两个核心事实确认得更加干净。检察官问：\n\n“it was Miles Guo who directed you to review the finances of the Himalaya Exchange, right?”\n\nLi：\n\n“Correct.”\n\n接着：\n\n“William Je sent you away the first day, right?”\n\nLi：\n\n“Correct.” \n\n所以这部分不是Defense单方面描述：Government自己在cross确认Guo下达了review HEX finances的任务，也确认Je第一天把Li打发走了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5313a938d8877756fe0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q0e8c4285d27aaad0bc7e","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":182,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-09-12T18:40:14.437Z","text":"下一步现在高度集中：一定要找那个四人chat原件\n\n这是目前最高价值的原始记录。\n\n要找的是 Guo + William Je + Leanne Li + Kathy 那个2022年伦敦期间的聊天群导出、截图、手机取证或Defense exhibit。\n\n只要找到内容，结论就可能发生明显升级或降级：\n\n如果里面是：\n\nGuo明确要求Je立即开放账目 → Je明确拒绝/拖延 → 最终仍不执行\n\n那么上一轮的“enforceability stress test”会重新升到 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control形成有意义的反证组合；但在找到四人chat原件以前，不能把它升级成Je明确抗命Guo。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e8c4285d27aaad0bc7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q21ef8eb5dd20561c6bbf","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":183,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-12T18:54:25.727Z","text":"赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21ef8eb5dd20561c6bbf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q43df16b0ca632c9d3a67","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":184,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-09-12T19:50:59.137Z","text":"螺丝哥和瑞恩不是一伙的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7d0f7a5a4732db8bfef","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43df16b0ca632c9d3a67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q2ba113b8e026e153194a","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":185,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-12T19:51:25.917Z","text":"［用户 him***］  螺丝哥被抓了 现在你来代表","edited":true,"reply_to":"q43df16b0ca632c9d3a67","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ba113b8e026e153194a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43df16b0ca632c9d3a67","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q28e04d237576af0608f7","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":186,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-09-12T19:52:35.012Z","text":"你觉得瑞恩关心螺丝哥吗？我怎么没看出来啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08d1c2ff776998835e34","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28e04d237576af0608f7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08d1c2ff776998835e34","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q9ab09253175c10a2e775","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":187,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-09-12T20:00:06.370Z","text":"派出所不会告诉陌生人的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfaa48cfc8caca3190d79","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ab09253175c10a2e775","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaa48cfc8caca3190d79","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qf8611a8ebe91cc156335","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":188,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-09-12T20:21:17.453Z","text":"这案子就是不正常，但是庭审已经输了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e8c4285d27aaad0bc7e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8611a8ebe91cc156335","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e8c4285d27aaad0bc7e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q29645f6e6e6a31f2e886","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":189,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-09-12T20:21:34.845Z","text":"郭是被陪审团判的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29645f6e6e6a31f2e886","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q039776de85a42878b9a6","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":190,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-09-12T20:22:21.821Z","text":"翻案需要法官同意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q039776de85a42878b9a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q9d94053659a8d13918e6","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":191,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-09-12T21:21:03.752Z","text":"英喜农场云隐（Lee Chu）在英国皇家法院诉余建民夫妇，\n索赔金额980万美元，\n要求冻结余在英国的资产，\n余在2023年9月应诉并提出撤销索赔动议。\n\n1/23 （）宣判：\n 余撤销索赔的申请被驳回\n针对容綪廷的索赔未被驳回\n对余下达了资产冻结和资产披露令\n余暂停诉讼的申请被拒绝\n允许索赔细节进行修订","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d94053659a8d13918e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q2248c98dfa7744f81c5f","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":192,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-09-12T21:39:36.035Z","text":"1月23日判决结果，最准确地说是：\n\n* Je要求strike out原告索赔的申请被驳回；\n* Sin Ting Rong要求strike out针对她的部分索赔，也被驳回；\n* Je的jurisdiction challenge被驳回；\n* Sin Ting Rong的jurisdiction challenge也被驳回；\n* 不准stay，英国诉讼继续；\n* 法院对Je作出worldwide freezing order + asset disclosure order；\n* 但法院没有对其妻Sin Ting Rong作出冻结/资产披露令。 \n\n这一点要特别纠正你原来的概括：“对余夫妇都下达资产冻结令”是不准确的。冻结和资产披露令只针对Je；对妻子的冻结申请失败。 法院认为针对妻子只能证明一个相对有限的tracing claim，而且没有充分证明她本人存在资产转移风险。\n\n另一个需要修正的是“允许索赔细节进行修订”。1月23日这个判决并没有最终批准全部修订。法院的意思是：拟议修订不会改变它拒绝strike out和决定冻结Je的结论；但正式的amendment application可以作为后续单独争议继续处理。 法院只是给了directions，让修订申请另行审理。\n\n这个英国判决对我们现在的 Je/HEX/ACA/Hamilton实际控制研究很有价值，而且有几处非常值得固定。\n\n英国法院在处理冻结令时并没有把Je只当成“郭的名义代理人”。法院说，现阶段材料足以支持针对Je的 good arguable case，并特别提到：对Farm Loan Programme，原告对Je的指控包括其处理资金流；法院认为针对Je存在一个足够成立的cause of action。\n\n更重要的是，英国法院还专门引用了我们前面已经反复追到的那笔 约$46m：法院认为，存在一个明显试图取得尚未被扣押的约$46m资金的行为，最初被称为“不具名客户”，后来发现那个客户实际上就是Je本人。法院把这个事实作为存在真实资产转移风险的重要理由之一。\n\n这和我们之前从美国 ECF716-5里看到的Je亲自推动约$46m redemption，几乎是同一条事实链。也就是说，现在不只是美国FBI宣誓书说Je直接控制和推动交易，英国高等法院2024年在独立民事程序里也把这一事实当成冻结Je资产的重要依据之一。\n\n另外，判决中还出现了一个对“妻子是不是Je的代持/执行人”很重要的反证。法院虽然承认有约 $3m据称流向Sin Ting Rong，但同时明确说：\n\n没有证据证明她按照Je的指令行事，也没有证据证明她参与资产转移。\n\n因此法院拒绝对她作Chabra型冻结令。\n\n这个细节对我们“谁是真正控制者”的主线其实很有价值，因为英国法院做的是逐人、逐资产、逐风险分析：\n\nJe： 有直接角色、直接资金控制、$46m行为、境外居留、真实资产转移风险 → 冻结。\n妻子： 即使收到过资金，也没有足够证据证明听Je指令或会协助资产转移 → 不冻结。\n\n这正好说明：英国法院并没有采用“家庭关系/关联身份 → 自动控制归属”的推定。\n\n所以，这个案子值得正式加入我们的control matrix。当前最值得固定的结论是：\n\n英国高院 [2024] EWHC 90 (Ch) 独立确认了一个很有分量的中间层事实：Je并非只是郭案中的paper owner或被动financial conduit。至少在民事冻结令阶段，法院认为已有足够证据支持Je在资金流、约$46m redemption和复杂诈骗资金结构中发挥实质角色，并据此对Je作全球冻结和资产披露令；与此同时，法院拒绝仅因妻子收款/婚姻关系就把同样的控制和转移风险归给她。\n\n这对我们现在审计 ECF858“Guo controls all entities/assets” 非常有用，因为它又多了一份外国法院的独立司法记录，显示Je在自己的资产和资金处置上具有真实、可执行的直接控制。\n\n如果你愿意，我下一步可以继续把这份英国判决里所有涉及Je实际控制、$46m、Hamilton、Himalaya Exchange、Farm Loan、妻子资产和London/Hong Kong房产的关键段落全部抽出来，做成一张“英国判决—美国ECF716/858对照表”。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d94053659a8d13918e6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2248c98dfa7744f81c5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d94053659a8d13918e6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qabc9803130d1f13c1b82","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":193,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-09-12T21:41:46.496Z","text":"这份英国判决和 ECF716-5 最值得对齐的是那笔约 $46m。英国法院明确记录：美国起诉材料称Je试图把尚未扣押的HEX相关资金转到自己控制的UAE账户；Je和一名HEX高管先称是匿名客户赎回，后来的材料却显示实际客户是Je或其公司。法院还特别说，这一事实由Je一方提交的WhatsApp和证据得到支持。\n\n所以这条可以正式升级为：\n\n“$46m redemption不是单纯的Government narrative；至少在英国高院的interim freezing record中，Je自己的材料也被认为支持他亲自参与该赎回，并且这一事实被法院用于认定真实资产转移风险。”\n\n这对 ECF858 的价值很直接。ECF858把郭概括成“Boss controlling all entities/assets”；但现在跨两个司法体系的记录都在告诉我们：Je至少在HEX/Hamilton/ACA一侧具有真实、可执行、交易级别的资金控制。 这并不否认Guo可能有更高层的间接控制；但它意味着“Guo是Boss”不能替代对Je direct dominion如何上溯到Guo personal control的证明。\n\n英国判决还给了一个很漂亮的反向参照：法院面对Sin Ting Rong时，没有因为她是Je妻子、也没有因为约$3m曾流向她，就自动认定她存在同样的资产控制风险。相反，法院明确要求针对她本人有solid evidence，并说没有证据显示她按Je指令行动或参与转移，所以不冻结。\n\n这非常适合放进我们现在的“归责精度”框架：\n\n关联关系、婚姻关系、公司关系、共谋关系，都不能自动替代针对具体人、具体资产、具体行为的独立证据。\n\n当然，英国冻结令不是最终merits judgment。法院的门槛是 good arguable case + real risk of dissipation，不是刑事定罪，也不是最终认定Je确实实施了所有被诉欺诈。 所以这份英国判决最安全的用途是证明英国法院认为Je的直接资金角色和资产转移风险有足够证据值得冻结，而不是说英国法院已经最终判Je诈骗成立。\n\n还有一个后续：2024年3月1日出了同案的costs judgment，[2024] EWHC 455 (Ch)，说明1月23日判决后案件继续推进。\n\n如果把它纳入我们现在的control matrix，我会这样打分：Je direct financial/asset control：★★★★½—★★★★★；证明Guo没有上层控制：★★☆☆☆；削弱“所有Je资产自动=Guo资产”的宽泛推定：★★★★☆；对ECF858逐账户/逐交易审计的价值：★★★★½。\n\n下一步最值得做的，是继续找这案子的后续实体判决、amendment order、最终freezing order文本和asset disclosure范围，尤其看英国法院后来有没有拿到Je披露的具体资产、公司、银行账户清单。那会比1月23日这个interim judgment更有杀伤力，因为它可能直接告诉我们Je本人申报了哪些资产和控制关系。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabc9803130d1f13c1b82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q42a263db93aa497aa345","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":194,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-09-12T21:44:18.481Z","text":"如果这类材料后来没有公开，我们也已经得到一个很稳的新结论：\n\n英国高院不是简单复制美国起诉书。它专门指出，$46m这件事已经被Je自己一方的WhatsApp和证据实质支持；而对其妻则坚持“没有具体instruction/dissipation evidence就不冻结”。这两点放在一起，对我们审计美国案件里direct Je control → automatic Guo control这种推理跨度非常有用。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42a263db93aa497aa345","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qad28d30b2504fe2d5afb","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":195,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-12T22:06:13.579Z","text":"lee chu 好像就是Julia","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad28d30b2504fe2d5afb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"q65fb97110cb6fd6dd0c0","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":196,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-12T22:11:18.582Z","text":"［用户 roy***］  ［用户 ton***］  需要帮忙 帮忙找一下，所有南区托雷斯和跨国镇压有关的order？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65fb97110cb6fd6dd0c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qefb10b7c9dc8802808b1","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":197,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-09-12T22:13:26.019Z","text":"可以，我来帮你把这个范围系统地找全。先给你一个目前已经能确认的“托雷斯本人作出的、与CCP targeting / 中国警方接触 / 胁迫性虚假投诉 / 跨国镇压证据边界直接相关”的核心清单；另外把“只是相关，但不是Torres关于跨国镇压本身的order”的文件分开，避免混在一起。\n\n目前最重要的第一号文件是 Dkt. 319，2024年5月2日，Torres的pretrial motions in limine order。这是整个“跨国镇压证据”主线的核心裁定。它至少处理了几类直接相关问题：Government想限制CCP targeting证据，但Torres没有整体排除；她明确承认，证明Guo及相关人员遭受CCP targeting的客观证据可能支持非犯罪解释，使辩方叙事超出“mere paranoia”。同时，Government要求排除“victims与中国警方一般接触”的Motion 15也被DENIED。公开判决摘要明确显示：Government Motion 15——“preclude general evidence of contact between the Chinese police and victims”——被拒绝。\n\n而且319不能被误读成“Torres全面压制CCP证据”。恰恰相反，Torres写过：即使相关证据存在403风险，她拒绝 broadly exclude CCP-related evidence，因为这类证据可能证明Guo对CCP targeting的恐惧具有客观基础。\n\n所以如果别人问“南区Torres关于跨国镇压最重要的order是哪一个”，319一定排第一。\n\n第二类不是单独一份“CCP order”，而是trial中关于中国警方胁迫、虚假投诉、能不能从一个人外推到其他投资人的裁定。这里最关键的是 Yi/Jianhu Yi的证词处理。我们前面已经核过：Yi关于被中国警方逼迫向FBI提交虚假金融诈骗投诉的证据实际进入了trial；其中相关投诉作为Defense Exhibit 60704入证，Government没有反对。真正的限制是：Torres不允许辩方从Yi一个人的经历直接推断其他complainants都一样受到胁迫，理由是当时没有其他complainants的证据。这个不是319本身，而是trial transcript中的口头evidentiary ruling。所以如果你们要“所有order”，要把它单独列入“oral rulings/transcript rulings”，不能只查ECF书面orders。\n\n第三个值得列的是 Dkt. 452相关的trial-stage ruling / charge discussion。你刚才上传的Jason材料引用了Torres的原话：\n\n“I don’t agree that you can generalize and speculate based on the testimony in this case, and so I adhere to my decision.”\n\n也就是说，法院明确拒绝把Yi的个人胁迫经历一般化到整个投资人群体。这条很重要，因为它后来和Dkt.843里更大规模的量刑proffer形成了明显时间差：trial时是“没有其他complainants的证据”，量刑前Defense却称已经有大量投资人报告被讯问、被迫认罪/保证、被迫虚假投诉。你当前文件也正是这样引用Dkt.843：Defense称收到1254份支持者陈述，其中99人报告被讯问、31人报告被迫做认罪/保证/被诈骗承认，6人报告被迫提交虚假投诉，26人报告被逮捕/起诉。 Jason%20.pdf.pdf\n\n所以452对应的trial ruling，应列为第二梯队核心材料。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q65fb97110cb6fd6dd0c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefb10b7c9dc8802808b1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65fb97110cb6fd6dd0c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qd085e761bca10292b670","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":198,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-09-12T22:14:16.098Z","text":"先从Torres本人关于CCP targeting、中国警方接触、虚假投诉/胁迫证据边界的orders开始，再单独列量刑和第三方参与相关orders。已确认最核心的是Dkt.319（2024-05-02），另外还有trial中Yi/false FBI complaint的口头裁定、Dkt.452相关“不能从一个证人外推全部投资人”的裁定，以及量刑阶段需要重点核Dkt.860/6-29 sentencing transcript是否处理Dkt.843的大规模coercion proffer。596、858/859属于程序/下游影响，会分开列，不和核心证据裁定混在一起。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd085e761bca10292b670","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qd2997ba0a16043d964ea","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":199,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-12T23:35:03.695Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  我又重新推演了一遍 这案子可能郭文贵不会有二巡律师了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2997ba0a16043d964ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"},{"id":"qa626621ed9143405eabd","batch_id":"batch-000158","seq":200,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-12T23:35:12.758Z","text":"自诉人打到终局","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa626621ed9143405eabd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000158"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000157","next_batch_id":"batch-000159"}