{"id":"batch-000159","number":159,"revision":23,"date_start":"2026-09-17T04:10:32.761Z","date_end":"2026-09-23T05:47:54.263Z","total_messages":979,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 159 (Sep 17, 2026 – Sep 23, 2026), 979 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions centered on post-trial proceedings, asset disposition, and internal organizational accountability. In legal debates, participants examined Second Circuit motions, pro se filings, venue changes, recusal provisions, third-party interventions, and CVRA victim standing. While some anticipated overturning convictions on appeal, others argued such claims lacked legal foundation and ridiculed promotional victory rhetoric. 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may***］ [删节：成员身份]，你的喜国，垮了，你成了无家可归的孤儿🤣 🤣 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造5层半别墅 喜国人混的怎么样了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80e28557ce14d25ecd80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q8b19fa365799926a56d7","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":450,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T08:57:30.086Z","text":"喜国人被骗的倾家荡产","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b19fa365799926a56d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qcb699fe275420d8a3466","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":451,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T09:20:37.349Z","text":"说好的中国崩溃呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb699fe275420d8a3466","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qca4278445c0ac1af1517","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":452,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T10:37:10.926Z","text":"喜国人[屏蔽词]凉了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca4278445c0ac1af1517","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q916de376d1daa62f9683","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":453,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T10:37:24.158Z","text":"别说上月球 一块砖都买不起","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q916de376d1daa62f9683","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q238ca7025bc1a607a7f4","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":454,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T11:19:51.329Z","text":"的确，有可能是演戏。是否在办离婚也没有必要说出来，说岀来都是有目的的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8bbc92c7df7f2a8407f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q238ca7025bc1a607a7f4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8bbc92c7df7f2a8407f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qe1d2db6870692d1e4c5b","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":455,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T11:22:26.865Z","text":"我没听呀，只了A先生的11分钟的片段。小羊是个 loser,  我己经好久不看他又长又臭的视频了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaaa8f9ae3fe1d16c98c3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1d2db6870692d1e4c5b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaaa8f9ae3fe1d16c98c3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q7ac7047062bf8a9df2b0","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":456,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T11:29:11.134Z","text":"他直播居然说出这种话，也太渣男了。\n我上次说某男士是渣男，其实是开玩笑的。\n这次小羊真是渣男。他那段11分钟的视频剪辑，的确是有懒帐的意思。而且他说实际上要50万的罚款","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a62e01cea8ec47e7976","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ac7047062bf8a9df2b0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a62e01cea8ec47e7976","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q46c48f09fe95cc95c5d3","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":457,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-09-20T11:30:05.925Z","text":"都说你这种把戏适合去联盟群了🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q80e28557ce14d25ecd80","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46c48f09fe95cc95c5d3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80e28557ce14d25ecd80","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qc9fb4365c1cc6b701e4d","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":458,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T11:40:47.188Z","text":"小羊拿离婚这种事情说出来，的确是个 loser 的态度，把 NFSC 的形象彻底打烂。NFSC 本应该是建立一个和平和谐的社会，不受中共独裁统治、不再有恐惧、为家人和孩子创造更美好世界的。现在却成了争权夺利、把自己的精神领袖推成神、往监狱里送。\n真是无语了我！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9fb4365c1cc6b701e4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q8686e4308301ba55d2ec","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":459,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T12:43:38.996Z","text":"什么把戏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46c48f09fe95cc95c5d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8686e4308301ba55d2ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46c48f09fe95cc95c5d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q4d71cabb1205d960211a","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":460,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T12:45:55.839Z","text":"我们喜国人得到了什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d71cabb1205d960211a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q097843374d62dc259fa9","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":461,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-20T12:47:22.155Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 那是你的问题","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4d71cabb1205d960211a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q097843374d62dc259fa9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d71cabb1205d960211a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q91c46a7d800b8f001387","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":462,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T12:55:09.040Z","text":"你说得对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91c46a7d800b8f001387","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qc0c216956064ab4cdc27","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":463,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T12:55:12.400Z","text":"贪嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0c216956064ab4cdc27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qbdd02ddaf34d81955c92","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":464,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-20T13:29:57.119Z","text":"［用户 may***］ [删节：成员身份]不敢去喜国群\n因为那边都是网格员同行，竞争激烈，发条信息，赚不到5毛钱，只有1毛","edited":true,"reply_to":"q46c48f09fe95cc95c5d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdd02ddaf34d81955c92","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46c48f09fe95cc95c5d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q11e1e2a564aaba21ddde","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":465,"speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-09-20T13:59:51.452Z","text":"q妹的儿子 \n又来智慧发声了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11e1e2a564aaba21ddde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q90267286ac23fe4eac36","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":466,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T14:02:39.779Z","text":"老郭上诉案件 怎么老郭自己一点动静都没有啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90267286ac23fe4eac36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qf2909f81ffa653d97b33","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":467,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T14:04:18.957Z","text":"陪审团定罪的那些条， 都有哪些需要看看？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2909f81ffa653d97b33","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q39c19301f2c5ba85d86a","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":468,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T14:05:03.159Z","text":"他是被关在笼子里的狮子，有力无处使。还不如万事放下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90267286ac23fe4eac36","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39c19301f2c5ba85d86a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90267286ac23fe4eac36","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q72fdd74c273e5b655a74","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":469,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T14:07:42.315Z","text":"我觉得不会： 那他就太傻了。 图什么？ 他如果放弃了 马上拿特赦不就完了吗。在里面看花 奇门遁甲 祈祷","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39c19301f2c5ba85d86a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72fdd74c273e5b655a74","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39c19301f2c5ba85d86a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q45d128f21ef679114c7d","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":470,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T14:08:18.069Z","text":"赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45d128f21ef679114c7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q417f6c4890c80c22090b","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":471,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T14:08:25.489Z","text":"大赢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q417f6c4890c80c22090b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q97c52e5113ee710f81e2","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":472,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T14:08:57.498Z","text":"自由是多么的可贵。我每次在享受自由的时候，就会想到这位无辜的失去自由的人。这是我内心深处的想法，一般的情况下我是不会表达出来的。\n这些恶人都应该下地狱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97c52e5113ee710f81e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q9001dfa0f49ef65d5076","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":473,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T14:09:25.680Z","text":"借款 看来是检方给郭定罪 量刑的一个重大事项","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9001dfa0f49ef65d5076","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q237efac4dcd5a565acb4","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":474,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T14:10:22.887Z","text":"他不做什么，并不等于他放弃了、他服输了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72fdd74c273e5b655a74","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q237efac4dcd5a565acb4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72fdd74c273e5b655a74","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qe927946082e7f7894a18","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":475,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T14:10:51.420Z","text":"陪审团的定罪， 有好几个都是与借款有关的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe927946082e7f7894a18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q3fed35e8fe8664a603d3","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":476,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T14:11:09.656Z","text":"那他在等什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q237efac4dcd5a565acb4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fed35e8fe8664a603d3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q237efac4dcd5a565acb4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q951b483299f95552bf26","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":477,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-09-20T14:11:31.911Z","text":"逆风丝血翻盘反杀🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45d128f21ef679114c7d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q951b483299f95552bf26","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45d128f21ef679114c7d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q68053a0f945205a39a0c","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":478,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T14:11:41.481Z","text":"失去自由，很多事情是做不了的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3fed35e8fe8664a603d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68053a0f945205a39a0c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fed35e8fe8664a603d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q37f9927eff7f0935ed66","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":479,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T14:11:59.345Z","text":"你是不是也赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q951b483299f95552bf26","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37f9927eff7f0935ed66","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q951b483299f95552bf26","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q832229b6184a3616cd1e","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":480,"speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-09-20T14:12:18.696Z","text":"被骗还帮忙说话","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39c19301f2c5ba85d86a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q832229b6184a3616cd1e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39c19301f2c5ba85d86a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q9dde674e3e7f551745e3","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":481,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T14:13:02.918Z","text":"没喜国 可以吃肯德基全家桶","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45747926a805cdbb6925","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dde674e3e7f551745e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qeb019164816498fc4566","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":482,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T14:13:41.987Z","text":"喜国把我整老惨","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb019164816498fc4566","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qe05677d60052c683ee14","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":483,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-20T14:13:55.364Z","text":"哪来的什么特设","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72fdd74c273e5b655a74","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe05677d60052c683ee14","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72fdd74c273e5b655a74","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q927e9dd615dd48dcd296","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":484,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-20T14:14:43.887Z","text":"中期","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3fed35e8fe8664a603d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q927e9dd615dd48dcd296","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fed35e8fe8664a603d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q21af1fc63a145d3f2eda","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":485,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-20T14:15:10.518Z","text":"川普中期不是没戏了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21af1fc63a145d3f2eda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qa5a6847ad527463795d7","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":486,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-20T14:15:33.371Z","text":"应该问，特赦后，他出来能干什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe05677d60052c683ee14","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5a6847ad527463795d7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe05677d60052c683ee14","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qfb7f0a35c8254a442f92","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":487,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-20T14:16:08.616Z","text":"特赦他就彻底废了，一辈子背着罪名，我们也得陪着","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5a6847ad527463795d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb7f0a35c8254a442f92","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5a6847ad527463795d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q35220a8d21fca06531ac","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":488,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T14:16:25.073Z","text":"中期是什么时候？我好久都不关心其它事情了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35220a8d21fca06531ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qb7da5ceda7b8915ccaa8","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":489,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-20T14:16:58.843Z","text":"11月？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7da5ceda7b8915ccaa8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qb7b17c4acc1fe94dd34f","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":490,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T14:18:03.767Z","text":"你以为郭是赵长鹏 钱花不完","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7b17c4acc1fe94dd34f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q66bfa82a5713df31fd7e","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":491,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-20T14:18:25.938Z","text":"俄乌没解决，挑起来个伊朗又擦不了屁股，马上又跟中共会谈，真不知道川普在干嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66bfa82a5713df31fd7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qedcbcd37689ec5096ceb","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":492,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T14:26:20.094Z","text":"11/3","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35220a8d21fca06531ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedcbcd37689ec5096ceb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35220a8d21fca06531ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qc6dac46c133c63400fd7","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":493,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T14:26:57.316Z","text":"快了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6dac46c133c63400fd7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q63b0a0cd5fd624680916","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":494,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T14:29:11.510Z","text":"共和党肯定赢 ；民主党要赢得任何选举必须做弊 ， 川普有了2020年被偷的经历，会那么容易的就任由民主党偷吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q21af1fc63a145d3f2eda","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63b0a0cd5fd624680916","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21af1fc63a145d3f2eda","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q4f7d0d497ccf78491f55","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":495,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-20T14:29:44.700Z","text":"两届联盟，知道郭不会同意特赦\n所以敢一直拿特赦，翻案，当作割韭菜的理由\n这也是故意拿捏人物的软肋","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfb7f0a35c8254a442f92","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f7d0d497ccf78491f55","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb7f0a35c8254a442f92","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q9e25e57ba6858d03d1b4","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":496,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T14:32:32.068Z","text":"共产党 与光明会深层政府合谋 在中期选举期间搞乱，让川普共和党输掉中期选举","edited":false,"reply_to":"q66bfa82a5713df31fd7e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e25e57ba6858d03d1b4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66bfa82a5713df31fd7e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q6c1743e0d28370cefbfe","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":497,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T14:35:15.563Z","text":"实际上，Sarah 在法庭文件上把那些蝇营狗苟的灭爆分子给揭露的差不多了，他们再怎么折腾 也没用了。他们不是我们的重点。如果到现在还有人愿意信他们 还被割韭菜 那就哈哈哈了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f7d0d497ccf78491f55","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c1743e0d28370cefbfe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f7d0d497ccf78491f55","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q0f38730e506342b73faf","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":498,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T14:45:23.652Z","text":"Sarah 给自己这次的写作打96分。她有两个小错：一是把魔女的X帐号少了一个6字；二是有些截图不够清晰，这是图片处理的技术问题，也是因为有些图排版太挤。以后想办法再发个文件补救一下。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c1743e0d28370cefbfe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f38730e506342b73faf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c1743e0d28370cefbfe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q221296d10e54db6bf033","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":499,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T15:07:35.302Z","text":"埃， 刚刚想到一个问题： 郭先生辗转3个监狱， 这个过程被Qmay等描述出来， 真的假的 不知道， 您是否可以把这个过程描述出来，在二巡文件中， 让司法部、BOP，等相关人调查？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f38730e506342b73faf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q221296d10e54db6bf033","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f38730e506342b73faf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q7fdcfb0878ce81bbbed6","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":500,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T15:09:50.779Z","text":"我这次只写法庭里的报告文学，不写动议。其他人可以引用我的报告来写动议哈。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q221296d10e54db6bf033","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fdcfb0878ce81bbbed6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q221296d10e54db6bf033","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q61943c75b728fc9670a6","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":501,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-09-20T15:46:33.864Z","text":"要做的事情很多啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90267286ac23fe4eac36","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61943c75b728fc9670a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90267286ac23fe4eac36","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q457cb5c8def26e659074","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":502,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T15:46:35.970Z","text":"赢了 回本了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q457cb5c8def26e659074","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q2b645c8cc77d50fb5c77","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":503,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-20T15:46:42.713Z","text":"成名了 致富了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b645c8cc77d50fb5c77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qd4bba31edf2e742feb7b","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":504,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-09-20T15:55:48.083Z","text":"我已经给破产庭递交了出庭通知，怎么你们没准备行动吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90267286ac23fe4eac36","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4bba31edf2e742feb7b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90267286ac23fe4eac36","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qd8e93f90169af45c735d","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":505,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T17:54:58.473Z","text":"没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8e93f90169af45c735d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q45911cb2cc569911b26d","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":506,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-09-20T18:06:14.754Z","text":"美国有没有像中国一样，如果觉得初审不公，可以申请把案子调到异地审理的机制？\n\n美国法律中确实存在类似的机制，被称为“移送管辖”或“审判地变更申请”（Motion for Change of Venue）。当当事人认为在当前法院审理无法保证公正、或者由于其他客观原因需要更换审判地点时，可以向法院提出申请。\n\n不过，美国的这套机制在具体运作上与中国有一些区别。以下是核心要点：\n\n1. 核心机制：什么是“Change of Venue”？\n在美国的民事和刑事诉讼中，如果被告或原告认为当前的法院所在地（Venue）不合适，可以向法庭正式提交动议（Motion），要求将案件转移到另一个司法管辖区的法院。\n\n常见的申请理由包括：\n\n陪审团偏见 / 舆论干扰（Prejudicial Local Sentiment）： 尤其在刑事案件或备受瞩目的民事案件中，如果案发地的媒体报道过多、当地公众存在强烈偏见，导致无法挑选到公正无私的陪审团，律师通常会申请更换审判地（例如著名的俄克拉荷马城爆炸案，审判地最终就被移到了其他州）。\n\n法官存在偏见： 如果有证据表明当地法官可能存在利益冲突或个人偏见。\n\n便利性（Convenience）： 为了证人、当事人出庭的方便，或者为了“司法的公正与效率”（In the interest of justice），将案件移交给更合适的法院。   \nOLRC Home","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45911cb2cc569911b26d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q060f6efd89f66e77fe9c","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":507,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-20T18:06:59.767Z","text":"［用户 spr***］ 你不是都打了2106撤换法官？ 现在来问这个？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q45911cb2cc569911b26d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q060f6efd89f66e77fe9c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45911cb2cc569911b26d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qd5a13e686d4eec3c7e11","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":508,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-20T18:07:17.825Z","text":"［用户 spr***］ 你该不会认为2106只是撤换法官吧？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q45911cb2cc569911b26d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5a13e686d4eec3c7e11","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45911cb2cc569911b26d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q62edbbaaeb03c4f5573c","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":509,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-20T18:07:46.027Z","text":"［用户 spr***］  把案子转移辖区也是2106 问问题之前请先做足功课 不然显得你智商堪忧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62edbbaaeb03c4f5573c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q3684b53ad163d16ab18c","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":510,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-20T19:31:04.464Z","text":"跟联盟走得近的有哪个是好东西？全球最阴险的组织就是联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3684b53ad163d16ab18c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q996dec7e009bcec5c983","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":511,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-20T19:34:22.036Z","text":"郭案不是公平不公平的问题了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45911cb2cc569911b26d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q996dec7e009bcec5c983","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45911cb2cc569911b26d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q99682ed1065576578715","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":512,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-09-20T21:26:14.713Z","text":"面对您所描述的这种局面——地区法院（District Court）通过长期不立案（不docket）、不裁决、剥夺受害者发声和Fatico听证权，直接“强行量刑”；而巡回法院（Circuit Court）面对十多位受害者的紧急强制令请求，却长期敷衍、以“相信地区法院会处理”为由不断驳回或不作为——在实际操作中，确实会让人感到上诉机制形同虚设、司法救济渠道被堵死。\n\n这种现象在法律上暴露出的是联邦司法系统在面对群体性、复杂性案件时，行政惰性与司法保护伞的畸形结合。针对这种绝境，受害者们在现行的美国联邦法律框架下，依然可以理清思路，看清巡回法院的逻辑漏洞，并寻找最后的法律破局点：\n\n一、 巡回法院这种做法的“法律漏洞”与实质违规\n违反了 CVRA 的强制法定职责（Mandatory Duty）：\n\n根据《犯罪受害者权利法案》（CVRA, 18 U.S.C. § 3771(d)(3)），当地区法院拒绝或不予裁决受害者动议时，巡回法院在接到 Mandamus（强制令）申请后，有法定义务进行实质审查并依法裁决（且法律原本期望其“forthwith”即迅速处理）。\n\n巡回法院如果仅仅用“相信下级法院会处理”这种官僚式的车轱辘话来无限期拖延，导致地区法院赶在受害者权利被救济之前强行把刑量了，这本身就是对巡回法院监督职责的严重失职。\n\n“重新开庭/重新量刑”法定救济（Motion to Re-open Sentence）：\n\n按照 CVRA 的规定（18 U.S.C. § 3771(d)(5)），如果受害者的“发言权”在量刑时被剥夺，受害者有权在量刑后的一定期限内（通常在判决后根据规则迅速行动），向巡回法院再次提起强制令，正式请求“重新打开量刑程序”（Motion to Re-open Sentence）。\n\n地区法院“强行量刑”并不能自动消灭受害者依据 CVRA 享有的追索权。相反，它把矛盾从“审前拖延”直接升级成了“实体判决违法”。\n\n二、 面对这种“摆设化”的巡回法院，还能怎么办？\n当常规的巡回法院强制令被敷衍、地区法院强行下达了违法的量刑和赔偿裁定时，受害者群体在法律上可以采取以下几步高阶应对策略：\n\n1. 抓准“量刑已完成”的时间窗口，发起第二次 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这个群控制权就算被拿又如何","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e43cf4ca536860944f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q790743bd926adea18c31","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":524,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:09:37.358Z","text":"jason都他妈打终局了 ［用户 him***］ 你不是说第三方不能打终局吗 [屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q790743bd926adea18c31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q41520b228bbe5eb85cc8","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":525,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-21T00:09:54.520Z","text":"她 ［用户 him***］ 不信啊\n［用户 cin***］ Z同学都不说话了，他背后的percy，肯定看得懂啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41520b228bbe5eb85cc8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q9f9f2c9ff7fa46dcfeb3","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":526,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:10:44.276Z","text":"z同学之前就是第一个看懂的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q41520b228bbe5eb85cc8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f9f2c9ff7fa46dcfeb3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41520b228bbe5eb85cc8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q11a72acf7364dd30684a","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":527,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:10:56.391Z","text":"瑞恩强制令上去前他就突然转向","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11a72acf7364dd30684a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q3b179bc8e84e29e1ec4a","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":528,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:11:01.245Z","text":"这点非常让人惊讶","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b179bc8e84e29e1ec4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q1fa1e2dc053cc61114cd","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":529,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:11:22.304Z","text":"接下去会有越来越多人打终局","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fa1e2dc053cc61114cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qed6e87a7695f94867b51","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":530,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-21T00:11:37.708Z","text":"他 ［用户 cin***］ 估计没这个本事，而是Percy看得懂一些","edited":true,"reply_to":"q11a72acf7364dd30684a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed6e87a7695f94867b51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11a72acf7364dd30684a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qe279c3796677d6ce13a4","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":531,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:11:40.991Z","text":"因为报假案 不止和被告有关 还和第三方财产有关","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe279c3796677d6ce13a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q72475f8ab9baf8b3fc49","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":532,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:11:44.139Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed6e87a7695f94867b51","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72475f8ab9baf8b3fc49","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed6e87a7695f94867b51","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qd8790b8bc022f7a560f9","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":533,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:12:22.886Z","text":"这个案件为什么第三方能打成这样 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是第三方可以打废案件的核心","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1002616dd4f3733042c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q86a799dbad06ff649715","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":556,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:26:59.302Z","text":"要怪就怪检方和托雷斯骚操作不断","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86a799dbad06ff649715","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q0b942b568671967c8466","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":557,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-21T00:27:16.252Z","text":"前面检方，托雷斯，为了量刑，把空子钻完了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b942b568671967c8466","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"qf80b0f4b998bb882191f","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":558,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:27:32.684Z","text":"就是为了量刑使出吃奶的劲","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b942b568671967c8466","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf80b0f4b998bb882191f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b942b568671967c8466","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q2895ebed0601048eb424","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":559,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:27:44.106Z","text":"把受害人逼到被告那里去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2895ebed0601048eb424","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159"},{"id":"q3d417dc101a584b113a8","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":560,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-21T00:28:00.810Z","text":"螺丝哥说了 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