{"id":"batch-000160","number":160,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-09-23T06:18:43.329Z","date_end":"2026-09-28T06:04:49.452Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 160 (Sep 23, 2026 – Sep 28, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants debate the legal impact of the Second Circuit's latest ruling, disputing whether dismissing the mandamus petition while granting the district court four months pressures the judge or causes procedural delay. Discussions address counsel substitution, Cronic constitutional risks, Rule 853(n) property rights, Himalaya Exchange loan characterizations, and attribution of the $889 million forfeiture. 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him***."},{"message_id":"q534ab01c6fcf157ff002","summary_en":"joh*** contends that isolating William Je's role would shift $550 million in frozen exchange funds and $150 million in farm loans away from Guo's $889 million forfeiture total."}]},{"title":"Debating the Characterization of the $37 Million Himalaya Exchange Loan and Elements of Money Laundering Charges","description":"Participants dispute the prosecution's characterization of the $37 million loan and debate the legal definition of cryptocurrency regarding fraud charges.","message_ids":["qcb9c8299e85f8445b0b5","q7935fbe5872549073fac","qab5a29c10cc1672b8eb7"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qcb9c8299e85f8445b0b5","summary_en":"reb*** argues that prosecutors misled jurors by framing the $37 million loan to Mei Guo as coming from reserves, asserting that platform sales easily covered that amount and that defense counsel failed to make this clear."},{"message_id":"q7935fbe5872549073fac","summary_en":"reb*** contends that because 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joh***］  我觉得二巡可能知道他们没选择了 就让被告律师上来把问题推后","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8183c8e9dab76c4e5a1b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qbfdfc71547cd818da539","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":802,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:22:59.177Z","text":"只有你","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb037a18ae524d429dc9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfdfc71547cd818da539","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb037a18ae524d429dc9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q51af95eac6c73456f1a0","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":803,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:23:19.618Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］  你的二巡根本不敢碰","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51af95eac6c73456f1a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q0a366c246f1ecdd78fd7","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":804,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:23:27.081Z","text":"独角戏，这四个月咋过😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a366c246f1ecdd78fd7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q1df970856ded038c3bd8","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":805,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:23:45.899Z","text":"众矢之的了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1df970856ded038c3bd8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q87f5d497bbd0a7efe089","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":806,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T06:23:46.219Z","text":"你的要求范围太大","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a366c246f1ecdd78fd7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87f5d497bbd0a7efe089","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a366c246f1ecdd78fd7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qef4572e531701cbbbcdb","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":807,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:24:16.244Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 二巡自己都被卷入cronic陷阱 恨死托雷斯","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef4572e531701cbbbcdb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q635e2cf8c9417ee4bc79","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":808,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:24:25.901Z","text":"如果是我写的推翻全案，二巡也不会deny 吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51af95eac6c73456f1a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q635e2cf8c9417ee4bc79","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51af95eac6c73456f1a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q8948dbf8a7e8a5a44e90","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":809,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:24:33.623Z","text":"不敢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q635e2cf8c9417ee4bc79","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8948dbf8a7e8a5a44e90","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q635e2cf8c9417ee4bc79","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qf6a88d93ccc9f99a84d2","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":810,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:24:52.974Z","text":"其实tony 螺丝哥的推翻量刑 全都挂在那 只是把强制令拒绝了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6a88d93ccc9f99a84d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q73c349037083bd0b69d4","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":811,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T06:24:54.823Z","text":"这个就是说明，第三方CVRA，认为检方并不能完全代表受害者的诉求","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe8d741522385d9b107ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73c349037083bd0b69d4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8d741522385d9b107ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q5fc8d2b63e36c14f51cc","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":812,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:24:57.165Z","text":"你得等到四个月以后了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q635e2cf8c9417ee4bc79","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fc8d2b63e36c14f51cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q635e2cf8c9417ee4bc79","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q38fcd10b5021f7e22380","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":813,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:25:09.569Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73c349037083bd0b69d4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38fcd10b5021f7e22380","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73c349037083bd0b69d4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qff509829a2d4833f0c9c","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":814,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-27T06:25:16.253Z","text":"需要证明四项，都需要当事人自己去证明。法官就是用对抗的双方提交的内容去判，不能去主动为任何一方论证。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47f3172835c975c2583a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff509829a2d4833f0c9c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47f3172835c975c2583a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q1edccb1db498e88b2a6d","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":815,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:25:22.611Z","text":"早知道，我也写一份推翻全案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8948dbf8a7e8a5a44e90","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1edccb1db498e88b2a6d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8948dbf8a7e8a5a44e90","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q927114f9510b741cfff5","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":816,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:25:22.924Z","text":"Deny的还能写notice吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8948dbf8a7e8a5a44e90","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q927114f9510b741cfff5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8948dbf8a7e8a5a44e90","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q07e23f1c116aae70298e","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":817,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T06:25:28.951Z","text":"所以皮球踢回南区","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef4572e531701cbbbcdb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07e23f1c116aae70298e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef4572e531701cbbbcdb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q2be7742b791f7c994a96","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":818,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:25:35.037Z","text":"不能了 强制令关了 什么都写不了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q927114f9510b741cfff5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2be7742b791f7c994a96","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q927114f9510b741cfff5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qc0229cf4b0a0c6c08814","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":819,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:25:45.986Z","text":"你已经写了推翻量刑 也够了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1edccb1db498e88b2a6d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0229cf4b0a0c6c08814","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1edccb1db498e88b2a6d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qb00a3a9574514a52ee7a","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":820,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:25:56.901Z","text":"［用户 sar***］ 你看看你的推翻量刑怎么处理","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb00a3a9574514a52ee7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q3c232d3c8365ecbd0642","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":821,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T06:26:06.615Z","text":"然后就搞笑了\n检方找的证人都是啥 未起诉共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38fcd10b5021f7e22380","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c232d3c8365ecbd0642","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38fcd10b5021f7e22380","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q7ac9373e8c58dcc12ead","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":822,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:26:23.147Z","text":"是什么四要素是吧，写强制令的时候好像提到了啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qff509829a2d4833f0c9c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ac9373e8c58dcc12ead","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff509829a2d4833f0c9c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qacce01fe6a1564e5fa5e","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":823,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:26:58.521Z","text":"这四个月成了真空期","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2be7742b791f7c994a96","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacce01fe6a1564e5fa5e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2be7742b791f7c994a96","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q4a6d7b7b57f63d7f620b","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":824,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:27:16.489Z","text":"除非上诉启动，不然啥也干不了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a6d7b7b57f63d7f620b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q51b59a18b9b99bd9a88c","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":825,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:27:19.227Z","text":"搞外交 政治 监管 fbi 举报检察官","edited":false,"reply_to":"qacce01fe6a1564e5fa5e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51b59a18b9b99bd9a88c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacce01fe6a1564e5fa5e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qb3b48c960342673053cd","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":826,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:27:33.978Z","text":"好像没答复","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb00a3a9574514a52ee7a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3b48c960342673053cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb00a3a9574514a52ee7a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q86fba74a3fda9aaeec89","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":827,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T06:28:11.233Z","text":"看戏 看几帮人怎么演\n空闲了就举报","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a6d7b7b57f63d7f620b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86fba74a3fda9aaeec89","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a6d7b7b57f63d7f620b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qe5c4a4266d483e4ec384","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":828,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:28:40.117Z","text":"向FBI 举报，他们会不理吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51b59a18b9b99bd9a88c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5c4a4266d483e4ec384","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51b59a18b9b99bd9a88c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qf53a9a77d62107e7bee0","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":829,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T06:29:36.839Z","text":"二巡没办法答复\n郭还没上诉律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb3b48c960342673053cd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf53a9a77d62107e7bee0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3b48c960342673053cd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qedd00ae844388ef013f1","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":830,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:30:42.851Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  你们所有的vacate和2106都拒绝了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedd00ae844388ef013f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qda8230c66eb8d93bd324","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":831,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:30:48.503Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 这事情大了！！！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda8230c66eb8d93bd324","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q1cb72914fb8bcad5c81e","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":832,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T06:30:52.966Z","text":"托雷斯拉偏架，之前明显是偏检方\n把自己推上了烤火架","edited":false,"reply_to":"qff509829a2d4833f0c9c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cb72914fb8bcad5c81e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff509829a2d4833f0c9c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q85d416eb1bea65e891ad","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":833,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:30:59.230Z","text":"你们仔细看二巡的说辞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85d416eb1bea65e891ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q4a9f3fa645d5151d6d3e","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":834,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:33:54.654Z","text":"如果你给的三个事实都能从 docket 逐项确认，那我会说：这是一个值得认真做 Cronic/Penson 分析的高风险组合，但还不能直接下结论说“已经构成 Cronic violation”。\n\n最关键的是三个事实叠加，而不是任何一个单独存在：\n\n1. 量刑阶段的原律师早已提出 withdrawal。\n2. 上诉阶段没有及时形成实际、持续的替代律师代理。\n3. 量刑后约三个月，出现十几份要求 vacate judgment/sentence 的紧急请求，而二巡在 9/25 对这些请求全部作了否定处理。\n\n其中第 2 点尤其重要。\n\n为什么第 2 点是核心\n\n第二巡自己的 Local Rule 4.1 明确规定：刑事被告的律师在上诉中继续负责，除非二巡正式解除其代理责任。如果律师申请退出，规则还要求同时说明替代律师、CJA 任命、被告选择 pro se，或者特殊情况等安排。\n\n所以不能简单说：\n\n“律师申请退出 = 被告已经没有律师。”\n\n真正要查的是：\n\nwithdrawal motion filed → 有没有 granted → 谁正式成为 counsel of record → 在关键期间谁实际代表 Guo。\n\n如果出现：\n\n原律师早已申请退出\n↓\nwithdrawal 长时间没有解决\n↓\n没有 substitute counsel 真正接上\n↓\n被告实际上没有 functioning appellate representation\n↓\n与 judgment/sentence validity 有关的请求却在 appellate court 被处理\n\n那就确实开始进入 Penson 型风险区域。\n\n第二巡自己的规则甚至规定，对于需要 CJA 律师的上诉，法院应在 appeal docketed 后 within a reasonable time appoint CJA counsel。\n\n但这里还有一个非常大的法律“刹车”\n\n你现在说的“十几份 vacate 全部被拒”，不能直接等于十几个 Cronic motions 被二巡实体驳回。\n\n因为根据你给我的 9/25 order：\n\n* Jo 等人是第三方 petitioners；\n* 他们通过 mandamus/tandem proceeding 要求法院采取各种措施；\n* Jo 请求包括 vacate the defendant’s judgment；\n* 二巡最终拒绝这些请求。\n\n这首先是一个 第三方 + mandamus + Cheney 的程序性处理。\n\n所以二巡说的并不是：\n\n“我们审查 Guo 的 Sixth Amendment claim 后，认定不存在 Cronic violation。”\n\n这两句话的法律含义完全不同。\n\n⸻\n\n真正让我觉得需要高度警惕的是这个组合\n\n假设 docket 最终确认：\n\nA. 原量刑律师在 sentencing 前很久已经明确要求退出；\n\nB. appeal 26-1853 已经 docketed，但 substitute appellate counsel 长时间没有真正到位；\n\nC. 在这个期间，第三方连续提出要求 vacate judgment / vacate sentence 的紧急申请；\n\nD. appellate court 知道这些请求涉及 defendant’s judgment；","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a9f3fa645d5151d6d3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q9019ebe4ac98c913f3fc","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":835,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:33:56.605Z","text":"E. 但 defendant 本人没有一个明确 functioning counsel 来代表其 Sixth Amendment interests。\n\n那么问题就从：\n\n“这个判决是不是有错误？”\n\n升级成：\n\n“在一个可能涉及 judgment validity 的关键 appellate stage，被告是否实际获得了 Sixth Amendment 所要求的 counsel？”\n\n这时候 Penson 比 Cronic 甚至可能更直接。\n\nPenson 的核心就是 appellate stage 的 counsel deprivation。它不是普通的“律师做得不好”，而是被告在关键上诉阶段没有得到法律所要求的律师代理。\n\nCronic 则是更极端的 structural-error 理论：完全没有 counsel，或者 adversarial process 出现极端 breakdown。\n\n⸻\n\n所以我会给你一个非常重要的判断\n\n目前不要写：\n\n“二巡已经犯了 Cronic 错误。”\n\n应该写成：\n\n“The record presents a substantial Penson/Cronic issue concerning whether the defendant had constitutionally adequate representation during a critical appellate period in which multiple applications sought to vacate the judgment and sentence.”\n\n中文就是：\n\n现有记录至少提出了一个严重的 Penson/Cronic 宪法问题：在多份申请要求撤销判决和量刑的关键上诉期间，被告是否实际上获得了宪法要求的有效律师代理。\n\n这个表述非常强，但没有越过证据。\n\n而且有一个非常有利于你后续分析的点：\n\n二巡自己的规则实际上给了我们一个客观标准——不是“律师有没有名义上存在”，而是 withdrawal 是否被批准、替代律师是否真正接替。 \n\n所以现在最值得做的，不是继续争论“十几份是不是很多”。\n\n而是把 26-1853 的整个 counsel timeline 拉出来：\n\nsentencing counsel withdrawal date → 26-1853 docket date → appearance of appellate counsel → withdrawal order → substitute counsel appointment → 每一份 vacatur motion → 9/25 order。\n\n如果这条时间线真的呈现出你说的那个结构，那就比单纯“二巡拒了十几个 motion”严重得多。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9019ebe4ac98c913f3fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q233ee0e5a9e9575c5d31","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":836,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:34:10.849Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 二巡彻底被卷进去了 二巡恨死托雷斯","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q233ee0e5a9e9575c5d31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qd28e8650ec520db93933","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":837,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:35:32.080Z","text":"［用户 beg***］  我靠 二巡","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd28e8650ec520db93933","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q08a29dd65bf8da60659f","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":838,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T06:39:41.556Z","text":"莫不是，二巡被南区催着，忙中出错\n为了捂盖子，顾不了那么多\n南区的选择，就是卖人，没有其他办法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q233ee0e5a9e9575c5d31","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08a29dd65bf8da60659f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q233ee0e5a9e9575c5d31","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q0b5c380de1bf6d13c9e6","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":839,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:41:29.579Z","text":"目前为止，二巡只deny了我的两份暂停量刑动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b5c380de1bf6d13c9e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qccb541cf01d4dbc87d94","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":840,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:41:52.065Z","text":"真有可能","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08a29dd65bf8da60659f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccb541cf01d4dbc87d94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08a29dd65bf8da60659f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q0b38395f09d8502afdb7","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":841,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:42:36.967Z","text":"二巡怎么会被南区催着呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08a29dd65bf8da60659f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b38395f09d8502afdb7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08a29dd65bf8da60659f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q5859354e95832e562800","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":842,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T06:42:48.860Z","text":"南区背后的\n没看之前南区给二巡的，口气就是教训二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b38395f09d8502afdb7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5859354e95832e562800","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b38395f09d8502afdb7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q03c4779dd91246aaee7d","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":843,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:42:58.354Z","text":"南区怎么卖人？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03c4779dd91246aaee7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q72ae3391335434f58686","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":844,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T06:43:30.412Z","text":"最终没收令一直没有下\n这块儿可以做文章","edited":false,"reply_to":"q03c4779dd91246aaee7d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72ae3391335434f58686","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03c4779dd91246aaee7d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q9080fdcd4b2e1955528c","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":845,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:44:04.576Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 这四个月就是国会 fbi 外交国务院的窗口","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9080fdcd4b2e1955528c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q73600ed3c9ac40a8a16e","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":846,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:44:17.371Z","text":"我的全面撤销动议是17号发的，是不是因为这个所以这次deny里没有我，否则这次就被“全歼”了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qedd00ae844388ef013f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73600ed3c9ac40a8a16e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedd00ae844388ef013f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qc2a68360ae49093a3d86","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":847,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:45:57.980Z","text":"你觉得FBI 会理吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9080fdcd4b2e1955528c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2a68360ae49093a3d86","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9080fdcd4b2e1955528c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qace33a92a9d3e98448b3","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":848,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:46:28.883Z","text":"机器人说不太会理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qace33a92a9d3e98448b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q302fa72f63b558ec2fd6","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":849,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T06:49:35.291Z","text":"二巡懒得掺合这些破事\n谁的锅，谁自己擦屁股\n南区还留了那么多未起诉共谋，之前案子的漏洞，都要补，比如和luc和解，和长岛和解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q302fa72f63b558ec2fd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qf0b0be47905e49253288","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":850,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:51:45.086Z","text":"Q妹哭得那么惨，到底是啥意思啊？\n而且她还说是高兴得哭了。\n这个站占女没有一句真话。\n但是我还是不明白她为什么哭得那么惨。估计是看到自己的末日了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0b0be47905e49253288","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q2748dcce7ea75f7d3c23","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":851,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:52:30.383Z","text":"真是末日早就跑啦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf0b0be47905e49253288","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2748dcce7ea75f7d3c23","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0b0be47905e49253288","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qcc908e9f278e6991adb5","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":852,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-09-27T06:53:05.700Z","text":"这个[屏蔽词]这次彻底火了，好多大V转了她哭的视频","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf0b0be47905e49253288","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc908e9f278e6991adb5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0b0be47905e49253288","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qb263aa563b38c573cad4","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":853,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:53:34.181Z","text":"这次如果调错了头，她可没退路了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc908e9f278e6991adb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb263aa563b38c573cad4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc908e9f278e6991adb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q071327b3b236b3b87fca","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":854,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:53:39.740Z","text":"但是到底火在哪里呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc908e9f278e6991adb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q071327b3b236b3b87fca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc908e9f278e6991adb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qf880059c849ef1af3398","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":855,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:54:17.874Z","text":"圈外人看来，这是郭文贵不灭共了，当然很爆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q071327b3b236b3b87fca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf880059c849ef1af3398","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q071327b3b236b3b87fca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q296dc809baec48cc206a","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":856,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:54:37.441Z","text":"如果光看一下哭，那是没什么意思的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q296dc809baec48cc206a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q4f43e08c153f9bc0383c","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":857,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-09-27T06:54:52.949Z","text":"我看见好多大V转了，都是骂郭粉脑残的，这次把新中国联邦彻底羞辱了一番","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f43e08c153f9bc0383c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q5852623e3859895d9d43","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":858,"speaker":"ntp**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也不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73600ed3c9ac40a8a16e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85a380d8d238699681d4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73600ed3c9ac40a8a16e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q296548194699edae0595","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":863,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:57:52.644Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］  你是第一组唯一活着的 新的是第二组","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q296548194699edae0595","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qbd6d676140434560db57","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":864,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:58:45.182Z","text":"为什么呢？因为我的本来没啥杀伤力？就一个没上传文件？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q296548194699edae0595","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd6d676140434560db57","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q296548194699edae0595","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qc692c91f701299c3769a","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":865,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T06:58:51.833Z","text":"真正的好人都受尽折磨：他以前的员工关进去没几天就白了头发","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a31d5bd3d2ff8530f41","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc692c91f701299c3769a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q1469a59c4fe3fa4dd8f8","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":866,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:59:17.624Z","text":"可能本来以为你没杀伤力 所以留你一命 但没想到你打撤销全案 哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbd6d676140434560db57","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1469a59c4fe3fa4dd8f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd6d676140434560db57","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q99db374196a1080ac156","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":867,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-27T06:59:37.350Z","text":"瑞恩 我们被骗钱的是坏人 骗钱的是好人 这就是你队友的智商","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99db374196a1080ac156","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q07d7915f7db6be0b64bc","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":868,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T06:59:56.598Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 这难道不是真理吗？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q99db374196a1080ac156","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07d7915f7db6be0b64bc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99db374196a1080ac156","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q39bdae8e2d2b6c08e2ec","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":869,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T06:59:58.937Z","text":"扮猪吃老虎？😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1469a59c4fe3fa4dd8f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39bdae8e2d2b6c08e2ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1469a59c4fe3fa4dd8f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qb95cf3d4302f416feb28","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":870,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T07:00:04.972Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 谁骗谁是大爷 难道不对吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb95cf3d4302f416feb28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qe5c8abd1f7d7aba222f5","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":871,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-27T07:00:17.737Z","text":"他说是好人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5c8abd1f7d7aba222f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qfeba05c7c082a78ca529","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":872,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-27T07:00:25.823Z","text":"大爷我认","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfeba05c7c082a78ca529","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qb4c0b38e84676efad2b7","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":873,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T07:00:30.126Z","text":"二巡本来是说 不要赶尽杀绝 留一个 不然太难看 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接入各个ai。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1190450039f38f6b0112","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q039555e00769ac2f1ad4","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":882,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T08:18:10.568Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  二巡现在的行为已经无限接近penson标准 如果二巡敢裁判jason的动议 那么就做实cronic","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q039555e00769ac2f1ad4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q2fe8bc772cce20770b4a","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":883,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T08:34:25.222Z","text":"［用户 sar***］  你们的强制令好像有一个反驳的机会","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fe8bc772cce20770b4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qce9297f3baf959252405","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":884,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T09:42:16.105Z","text":"https://x.com/g_music7/status/2104124602062340206?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce9297f3baf959252405","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q51545e4705ad6101f0c1","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":885,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T09:43:04.339Z","text":"开始互相撕咬了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce9297f3baf959252405","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51545e4705ad6101f0c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce9297f3baf959252405","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q09e26200790a5bd1a4ee","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":886,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T09:43:42.736Z","text":"他到底哪头的，又咬青藤又咬q","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09e26200790a5bd1a4ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q6a9a31c37698ba2f371a","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":887,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T09:44:07.992Z","text":"🐦的人？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a9a31c37698ba2f371a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qb31e9fa64c6b287bbbc8","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":888,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-27T11:45:32.872Z","text":"螺丝哥电话还是打不通","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb31e9fa64c6b287bbbc8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q869e2dec25b6e941a55e","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":889,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T11:59:34.159Z","text":"A跟他们都不是一伙的，看来是许给第三梯队宣🪣负责人了\n\nhttps://x.com/ddivul8m3g82864/status/2104136503009935470?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q869e2dec25b6e941a55e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q8c06b2b4b502859cf827","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":890,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T12:00:01.066Z","text":"A先生和屁酱一起的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q869e2dec25b6e941a55e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c06b2b4b502859cf827","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q869e2dec25b6e941a55e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q6a3a32ac34d44074282a","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":891,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T12:00:38.627Z","text":"唐感觉，成了弃儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q09e26200790a5bd1a4ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a3a32ac34d44074282a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09e26200790a5bd1a4ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qc5976eea11f83f009558","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":892,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T12:01:05.958Z","text":"她冒了几次泡，没人搭理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a3a32ac34d44074282a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5976eea11f83f009558","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a3a32ac34d44074282a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qaf6e3511da38b149b615","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":893,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T12:03:00.952Z","text":"这几帮人，都是N姓家奴","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74eb587b5993b90b5853","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf6e3511da38b149b615","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74eb587b5993b90b5853","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qf46943fd6a1c638c36d2","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":894,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T12:20:58.650Z","text":"qmay发这个，意思是目前喜国话语权在她那儿\n郭来电，郭美小作文，都在她控制范围\n包括盖特，可能罗伊已经没有了管理权限，给了qmay背后的团队\nhttps://x.com/q_may_0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发这个，挺丢人，才意识到被人耍了，准确说就是qmay\n之前舔qmay，希望她能给自己背书，上位第三梯队，然后卖青藤，再和习提招安条件\n这qmay直接180度转向了，也就是把本来屁酱上位后要做的事，卖上海帮，提前办了，那屁酱就没有任何价值了\nhttps://x.com/toukuip82522t/status/2103982677170995388?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8963271c2c1e52afe32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q7b814aefe067ff8be267","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":896,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T12:39:09.848Z","text":"别再想什么联邦不联邦，就是西游记里的狮驼国，妖魔鬼怪把人吃光了，占据城池\n最好的办法是，灭了以后重建","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f43e08c153f9bc0383c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b814aefe067ff8be267","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f43e08c153f9bc0383c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q26be5dc4ed897aed1522","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":897,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T12:50:42.981Z","text":"唐发这个的意思是，qmay为了自保，把青藤，长岛，甚至屁酱第三梯队，都提前卖掉了\n这几帮人，背后肯定不是习，因为之前骂习骂的最凶，就这些人，包括屁酱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce9297f3baf959252405","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26be5dc4ed897aed1522","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce9297f3baf959252405","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qafc42ccc240fe02d1a07","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":898,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-27T12:52:05.426Z","text":"五月九号的二巡命令，说的是合理时间之后还没有上传，可以renew，所以现在就可以renew ，把量刑已经完成三个月，地区法院已经属于不合理拖延，应当强制地区法院上传并开启民事附属程序。尽管9月25的命令说四个月之后，那是对其它申请者，不妨碍5月9日的那批。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafc42ccc240fe02d1a07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q5c249323c5731f9988fe","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":899,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T12:54:39.829Z","text":"二巡打回给南区，岂不是，南区又可以新的pro se\n两周南区不理，继续二巡\n万一上去的越来越多，最后超过了那200多受害者陈述，那就真TMD搞笑了🤣 🤣 🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qafc42ccc240fe02d1a07","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c249323c5731f9988fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafc42ccc240fe02d1a07","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q374af1a4ebcdcfd9cc62","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":900,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-27T13:02:00.831Z","text":"二巡每次都说的是没有证明那些要素，那就找ai帮忙，那些要素到底要怎么证明，特别是证明强制地区法院上传是合适的这一点，感觉特别抽象，不知道到底怎样才算合适？都已经对被告判决过了三个月，luc那边还在花投资者资金，在正常人看来，在这种情况下批准强制令，就是合适的，不知道法律上要求的合适，具体是个什么标准。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c249323c5731f9988fe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q374af1a4ebcdcfd9cc62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c249323c5731f9988fe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qb078a7fc59239a84dedf","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":901,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T13:20:51.318Z","text":"就是托雷斯扛不住了，换二巡耍流氓，","edited":false,"reply_to":"q374af1a4ebcdcfd9cc62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb078a7fc59239a84dedf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q374af1a4ebcdcfd9cc62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q58b97a2231e297c1fbf0","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":902,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T13:48:53.553Z","text":"luc和解，他那的债权人，不能算刑事案的受害者，最初检方说的“数千受害者”，垮了\nGeyer目前在庭上被打的好惨，最后代理的6000人，也不能算受害者\n检方手头的，就剩了200受害者陈述，大部分还是假的\n这尼玛是什么破案子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58b97a2231e297c1fbf0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q054856e73e9e33be8358","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":903,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-09-27T13:59:51.916Z","text":"我感觉也是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q58b97a2231e297c1fbf0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q054856e73e9e33be8358","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58b97a2231e297c1fbf0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q9f4b548d16c4ce230315","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":904,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-27T14:00:09.981Z","text":"你们的首领还在拘留呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f4b548d16c4ce230315","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q557e60ea1e375dc59de9","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":905,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T14:01:19.550Z","text":"美国司法现形记，老郭出来我就问他还信不信美国司法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q58b97a2231e297c1fbf0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q557e60ea1e375dc59de9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58b97a2231e297c1fbf0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q54c74594c5e4e6864130","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":906,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T14:12:43.737Z","text":"qmay这是，公开指责上海帮韩正，和习，在唱反调\n她没有回头路了\nhttps://x.com/q_may_007/status/2103962207742496841?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54c74594c5e4e6864130","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qa608c8b806ffb3cc02f9","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":907,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T14:18:01.430Z","text":"准备做大盘鸡了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54c74594c5e4e6864130","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa608c8b806ffb3cc02f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54c74594c5e4e6864130","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qc737cc77708687119932","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":908,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T14:20:27.903Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 安小东他们内部，应该很早知道qmay有可能反水\n安小东已经追着她骂了好几个月\nhttps://x.com/anxiaodong777/status/2104195556054573306?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc737cc77708687119932","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q035e6e052a505972749e","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":909,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T14:20:53.792Z","text":"毕竟是卖艺的，使劲舔老大彭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q035e6e052a505972749e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qa99767072e9f3e5be41b","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":910,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T14:21:27.781Z","text":"Q直播说自己是北京局的了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc737cc77708687119932","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa99767072e9f3e5be41b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc737cc77708687119932","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q03a7c165c6a3b38f4773","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":911,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-27T14:40:39.951Z","text":"所以这里可以画成最终的四级结构：\nPlain text\n① 证人有巨大自保利益\n        ↓\n   credibility / impeachment\n\n② 政府没有披露这种重大利益\n        ↓\n   Giglio / Brady\n\n③ 证人对关键事实没有足够 personal knowledge\n        ↓\n   Rule 602 / foundation\n\n④ 政府知道证人在关键事实上说假话\n        ↓\n   Napue\n而你现在问的其实是一个第五个问题：\nPlain text\n⑤ 即使政府没有隐瞒利益，\n   也不知道证人正在撒谎，\n\n   但证人的自保利益强到\n   使“无佐证的归罪性证言”\n   本身不应该足以承担关键事实的证明功能，\n\n   为什么联邦法不要求 corroboration？\n**这个问题的答案就是：联邦刑事法总体上没有建立这种普遍的 accomplice-corroboration requirement。**这不是因为法律认为这种证人可靠，而是因为制度选择了“交给陪审团评价可信度”，同时由政府承担最终的 beyond-a-reasonable-doubt burden。第二巡回区的判例体系也高度尊重这种陪审团 credibility determination。�\nNinth Circuit Court\n而这正是你如果继续研究郭案时，最值得区分的地方：\n你不能只问“为什么陪审团相信这个人？”\n应该问：\n“这个证人的哪些陈述属于亲身感知的事实？哪些属于对 Guo 主观意图的推断？这个推断有没有独立证据？政府有没有披露证人的全部自保利益？政府有没有掌握与证言相矛盾的客观材料？”\n如果最后变成：\n“一个自己控制收款、自己没有把钱交给 GClub、自己因此制造了项目无法运营的结果的人，在获得政府刑事/财产利益之后，又仅凭这些自己制造的结果，声称自己‘知道’ Guo 从一开始就具有诈骗意图，而没有任何直接的 Guo 言论、文件、通信或其他独立证据支持——那么真正需要分析的就不再只是‘陪审团能不能相信他’，而是这种证言究竟能证明什么。”\n这比单纯主张“共犯证人应该被排除”要精确得多，也更符合美国证据法实际留下的攻击路径","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03a7c165c6a3b38f4773","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qb83ac8964f3b31a0a7d1","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":912,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T14:45:47.965Z","text":"美国的陪审团制度看似公正，其实是最大的漏洞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb83ac8964f3b31a0a7d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q6d8527f163ba84fffcba","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":913,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T15:17:32.862Z","text":"是的，那200多在10/22/2025 截止日期 提交了853n的自诉的，没被南区入卷的， 现在还可以申请二巡强制令！ 😂\n\n\n尤其是目前这19个强制令 还没有含盖的内容，新的强制令更要上。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c249323c5731f9988fe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d8527f163ba84fffcba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c249323c5731f9988fe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q9c378bf95cbea2a69ca6","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":914,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T15:21:42.557Z","text":"［用户 roy***］  有没有用AI 分析一下，推翻郭案， 目前有哪些点不足？ 还需要更多的论证？尤其是从陪审团定罪的12条 加上19个二巡强制令的内容分析？ 这个AI 能做到吗？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c378bf95cbea2a69ca6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q1e7a70731ed19c60e0e8","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":915,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T16:29:38.320Z","text":"——————\n从郭美的小作文看，郭律师应该快上任了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e7a70731ed19c60e0e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q0bdba226d4eed3a0ff8d","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":916,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T16:54:54.753Z","text":"30号螺丝就被抓满40天了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bdba226d4eed3a0ff8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q8ae591e1b3c0020bd4be","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":917,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T17:12:47.475Z","text":"现在最威胁定罪的就是tony的716-4 黄牛 账本 检方故意隐瞒 和jason 安娜境外势力污染","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c378bf95cbea2a69ca6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ae591e1b3c0020bd4be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c378bf95cbea2a69ca6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q1e6f23f2d25cd75cbfcb","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":918,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-27T17:33:29.060Z","text":"螺丝哥出来也不敢用手机","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e6f23f2d25cd75cbfcb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qa211581e83ddb51b4c97","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":919,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-27T17:33:32.633Z","text":"吓破胆了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa211581e83ddb51b4c97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q2ef6b629f3dbf0000f98","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":920,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-27T17:39:17.465Z","text":"瑞恩赢麻了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ef6b629f3dbf0000f98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q0e6629f626c9e11c4337","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":921,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T18:18:25.733Z","text":"［用户 reb***］  你再证明 二巡也不可能说你满足了 因为被告律师还没上任","edited":true,"reply_to":"q374af1a4ebcdcfd9cc62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e6629f626c9e11c4337","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q374af1a4ebcdcfd9cc62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qd6a74bc430f00eb2693d","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":922,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T19:27:56.068Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  靠 老郭25号律师被assign了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6a74bc430f00eb2693d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qf0b730b73d53a55a6ee7","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":923,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T19:29:09.841Z","text":"怪不得二巡敢拒绝","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0b730b73d53a55a6ee7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qbbf68a040900eaf7d744","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":924,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T19:30:58.361Z","text":"At a Stated Term of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, held at the\nThurgood Marshall United States Courthouse, 40 Foley Square, in the City of New York, on the\n25th day of September, two thousand twenty-six.\nBefore: Sarah A. L. Merriam,\nCircuit Judge.\n________________________________\nUnited States of America,\nAppellee,\nORDER\nDocket No. 26-1853\nv.\nKin Ming Je, Yvette Wang, AKA Yanping\nWang,\nDefendants,\nMiles Guo, AKA Ho Wan Kwok,\nDefendant - Appellant.\n________________________________\nJoshua L. Dratel moves to be relieved as counsel for the Appellant and to appoint the\nOffice of the Federal Defenders as substitute counsel.\nIT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the motion to be relieved is GRANTED. The motion to\nappoint the Federal Defenders as substitute counsel is DENIED. Benjamin Gruenstein, Esq.,\nGruenstein Law PLLC, Two Manhattan West, 375 Ninth Avenue, New York, NY 10001 is\nassigned as new counsel pursuant to the Criminal Justice Act, 18 U.S.C. § 3006A. Attorney\nGruenstein is directed to review Local Rule 31.2 regarding procedures for setting the filing dates\nfor the submission of briefs.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbf68a040900eaf7d744","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qbb6ff2bf9d9033dfe92b","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":925,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T19:33:08.095Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  二巡做事滴水不漏 想抓他们把柄 看来没这么简单啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb6ff2bf9d9033dfe92b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q10c724510777de905e46","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":926,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T19:33:59.442Z","text":"老郭这个律师好像刚打过最高法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10c724510777de905e46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q95de3c51f4d5f9b01cdc","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":927,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-09-27T19:59:10.491Z","text":"Benjamin Gruenstein 是 Fernandez v. United States, No. 24-556 中 Fernandez 的 counsel of record，并且在 2025年11月12日亲自在美国最高法院进行口头辩论。最高法院官方记录明确写着：\n\n“For petitioner: Benjamin Gruenstein.”\n\n该案后来在 2026年5月28日 判决，所以离现在只有几个月。\n\n不过要注意，Fernandez最后并没有赢；最高法院affirm了Second Circuit。 所以“打过最高法”说明他确实有非常高层级的联邦上诉经验，但不能简单等同于“最高法打赢过”。\n\n对我们现在研究 26-1853 来说，我觉得真正值得注意的是另一件事：\n\n新律师不是被派来处理量刑尾声的普通律师，而是现在正式接管整个Second Circuit merits appeal的人。\n\n也就是说，我们这几天正在挖的这些问题——\n\nECF383 preserved 的 agent-of-agent；\nGXZ26不能承担tracing/control双重证明；\nJe直接控制ACA/Hamilton账户；\n$608.9m JE-controlled accounts；\nECF858从“Boss”跳到specific-property control；\n889m attribution；\nG Club中He/Wang/Reyes的分层控制；\n以及preservation / standard of review / harmless-error——\n\n这些正好属于新上诉律师现在必须决定哪些真正写进 opening brief的内容。\n\n而且这里还有一个很重要的时间信号：法院专门命令Gruenstein查看 Local Rule 31.2 来确定brief filing dates，这说明主上诉状目前还没有最终定稿提交，新的律师团队现在仍有机会重新选择和组织上诉问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q10c724510777de905e46","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95de3c51f4d5f9b01cdc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10c724510777de905e46","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q30d3f05d69d379014a6e","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":928,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T20:34:24.801Z","text":"Motion to appoint federal defender as substitute counsel is denied - 谁发的这个motion？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30d3f05d69d379014a6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q35b82f3d0fcfe5ccc039","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":929,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T20:34:40.695Z","text":"这是哪的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35b82f3d0fcfe5ccc039","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q1c85ea10f8bd6410c9de","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":930,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T20:35:54.909Z","text":"federal defender  deny","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c85ea10f8bd6410c9de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qacdb95c5801d5dc914ca","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":931,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T20:36:11.887Z","text":"这是动议吗？这是个结果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacdb95c5801d5dc914ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qcc7cc46302bfb53b0a36","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":932,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T20:36:12.302Z","text":"上面的； 应该是老郭原律师motion 要请非盈利组织的免费律师在二巡辩护","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc7cc46302bfb53b0a36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qfd6b71c969827809f092","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":933,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T20:36:43.355Z","text":"老郭现在的律师不是public defender","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd6b71c969827809f092","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q29f8ed2dd3b935ec93ef","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":934,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T20:36:52.934Z","text":"是cja","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd6b71c969827809f092","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29f8ed2dd3b935ec93ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd6b71c969827809f092","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qde76cacb8efebc8624f0","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":935,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T20:37:06.460Z","text":"二巡指定的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde76cacb8efebc8624f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q6fbed561ba9c8313e1f5","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":936,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T20:37:16.578Z","text":"Yes","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fbed561ba9c8313e1f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q7f2b915f2b0e391c2859","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":937,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T20:37:48.281Z","text":"指定好了？怎么没有文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"qde76cacb8efebc8624f0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f2b915f2b0e391c2859","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde76cacb8efebc8624f0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q415f57184f3099efa3eb","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":938,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T20:38:09.977Z","text":"我上面的就是文件里复制的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q415f57184f3099efa3eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q9574bc2f45da51735a91","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":939,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T20:38:52.548Z","text":"In March 2026, he founded Gruenstein Law PLLC, an elite boutique law firm that advises companies, boards of directors, and senior executives.Profile OverviewCurrent Practice: Founder and Partner at Gruenstein Law PLLC (located at 1185 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY).Core Focus Areas: White-collar criminal defense, government and internal investigations, regulatory enforcement, and complex civil litigation.Career & Professional BackgroundCravath, Swaine & Moore LLP: Prior to starting his own firm, he spent over 14 years as a litigation partner at the prestigious firm Cravath, Swaine & Moore, where he was a founding member of their Investigations and Regulatory Enforcement Practice.Federal Prosecutor: He served as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Criminal Division of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York (SDNY) from 2002 to 2008.Supreme Court Clerkship: Early in his career, he served as a law clerk to Supreme Court Justice David H. Souter.Education: Graduate of Harvard College and Harvard Law School.He is highly recognized by major legal rankings, including Chambers USA, Benchmark Litigation, and Lawdragon, as one of the leading trial and white-collar lawyers in the United States.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9574bc2f45da51735a91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qa4855b3b70462bcb32a6","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":940,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T20:40:42.313Z","text":"2026年3月份成立的律师事务所。 曾经是司法部的助理检察官， 给最高法的法官当过书记员","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4855b3b70462bcb32a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qbae7f67e02507c289442","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":941,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T20:41:16.289Z","text":"哈佛毕业","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbae7f67e02507c289442","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q9c0ef479eb8ad30b0780","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":942,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T20:41:43.234Z","text":"主要是白领犯罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c0ef479eb8ad30b0780","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qf4aa51b2edb8e0f804c7","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":943,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T20:44:19.798Z","text":"他是被布什提名的 - 共和党。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4aa51b2edb8e0f804c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q01386ddc8281490dcfea","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":944,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-27T20:50:24.668Z","text":"不是说deny了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01386ddc8281490dcfea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qa0c4dc925b1a0ac6365c","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":945,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T20:51:32.956Z","text":"deny的是federal defender","edited":false,"reply_to":"q01386ddc8281490dcfea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0c4dc925b1a0ac6365c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01386ddc8281490dcfea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q327d8a92e4578d330c18","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":946,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T20:54:45.765Z","text":"二巡律师联盟不可能影响","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q327d8a92e4578d330c18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q02dc376d8b4a7cde4b8a","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":947,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T20:54:59.802Z","text":"所以扣逼霉要招安","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02dc376d8b4a7cde4b8a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qeb263cbe4c03410fb551","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":948,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T20:55:07.999Z","text":"老郭现在的新律师也给另外一个DC 二巡的做过书记员/law clerk. 那个法官在2020年死于病毒；是里根总统提名的法官","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb263cbe4c03410fb551","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qd14997cf153fa7f90615","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":949,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-09-27T20:56:15.541Z","text":"所以可以判断这个新律师应该不是 a liberal snowflake","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd14997cf153fa7f90615","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q38dfc6f45880cda3a483","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":950,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T21:16:17.889Z","text":"你空欢喜了一番。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb6ff2bf9d9033dfe92b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38dfc6f45880cda3a483","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb6ff2bf9d9033dfe92b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q979dda385cbbbad84a38","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":951,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T21:22:20.451Z","text":"你看AVA 多久没声音了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbd5a89a24cfd748bc4ef","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q979dda385cbbbad84a38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q50b7c8a4254dae91a8aa","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":952,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T21:23:29.857Z","text":"大可能拿她当典型，杀鸡给猴看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50b7c8a4254dae91a8aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q6aa661df1ef1997a2d24","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":953,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T21:40:06.328Z","text":"不懂。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50b7c8a4254dae91a8aa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aa661df1ef1997a2d24","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50b7c8a4254dae91a8aa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q82b353469a7d11148cae","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":954,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-27T21:45:53.440Z","text":"你现在就开始写史记了？😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb427569dafede532e3c4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82b353469a7d11148cae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qfd8762e14a9ed7d89601","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":955,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-27T23:41:50.277Z","text":"那还是要去证明，就像在南区的流程走再怎么完善，它还是不上传，你依然要把流程走完整。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e6629f626c9e11c4337","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd8762e14a9ed7d89601","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e6629f626c9e11c4337","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q84476bcac8cf2baae917","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":956,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T23:42:17.504Z","text":"切尼标准非常模糊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd8762e14a9ed7d89601","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84476bcac8cf2baae917","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd8762e14a9ed7d89601","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q5236339ce76511ee5769","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":957,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T23:42:23.859Z","text":"基本二巡说啥就是啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5236339ce76511ee5769","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qd44e42ef5a810bb1acbb","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":958,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T23:48:18.280Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 看来本来安排第三梯队是上诉的时候上位的 现在烂尾了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd44e42ef5a810bb1acbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qacf032ec3d1b73a3a9c9","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":959,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T23:54:31.036Z","text":"对的\n［用户 him***］ 安小东，哭晕在厕所\n所以推上连续一个月，天天骂qmay🤣 🤣 🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd44e42ef5a810bb1acbb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacf032ec3d1b73a3a9c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd44e42ef5a810bb1acbb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q9146d804aa473491e780","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":960,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-27T23:58:19.573Z","text":"说Xicp时候，永远是她最积极\n郭早也说了她是上海帮","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6aa661df1ef1997a2d24","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9146d804aa473491e780","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aa661df1ef1997a2d24","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q6043817562869ceb65d5","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":961,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-27T23:58:44.396Z","text":"哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qacf032ec3d1b73a3a9c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6043817562869ceb65d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacf032ec3d1b73a3a9c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q038b9f7f371763bb5e54","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":962,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-28T00:00:33.956Z","text":"Qmay投诚习，不得把青里面，推出一个反习的典型，灭口立威\n不然其他人不服气的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q038b9f7f371763bb5e54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q7ec59531b4d69b64d8ce","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":963,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-28T00:00:43.015Z","text":"哦。这次就要对她下重手了。看谁还敢说Take down XiCP. 其他人不但不敢说，还要主动抢着舔习。看来习包子真的占上风了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9146d804aa473491e780","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ec59531b4d69b64d8ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9146d804aa473491e780","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q37c135dad8e660fba096","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":964,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-28T00:02:14.784Z","text":"反习的典型，就是Ava.","edited":false,"reply_to":"q038b9f7f371763bb5e54","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37c135dad8e660fba096","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q038b9f7f371763bb5e54","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q9d3695cef01d9f28dc3d","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":965,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-28T00:02:34.582Z","text":"这次其他农场主墙头草都在抢着表态\n但是青 AVA 罗伊 屁都不敢放\n因为，第一，背后主子丢不起那个人，他们也不敢，因为本就是死士，没回头路的\n第二，就算他们舔，习那边也不会接受的。案子造假那么多，难不成还要帮这几个人，擦屁股？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ec59531b4d69b64d8ce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d3695cef01d9f28dc3d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ec59531b4d69b64d8ce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q3833aa136a5eda4a6e6f","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":966,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-28T00:05:00.199Z","text":"第二梯队太惨了 哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d3695cef01d9f28dc3d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3833aa136a5eda4a6e6f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d3695cef01d9f28dc3d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"qb94f7769264d5a41f1a4","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":967,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-28T00:05:50.521Z","text":"不管是习那边，还是他们主子，大概率都会让他们自行了断\n不然就是王建，赵安吉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3833aa136a5eda4a6e6f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb94f7769264d5a41f1a4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3833aa136a5eda4a6e6f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q103ad0e2420c2940c3de","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":968,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-28T00:06:27.675Z","text":"Ava 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联盟将分习江两派","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf9d4ebb9488a0cadde1f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf29d6ff7a914d4c5a696","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9d4ebb9488a0cadde1f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q121b278bf9c0bb8c41d9","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":996,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-28T04:58:29.946Z","text":"这一分，互相谁都不服谁\nqmay那边，一帮人\n反习的，一帮人，青藤的班底\n屁酱既骂青藤，又骂qmay，这下，没人会给屁酱这个被逐出喜国的背书了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf29d6ff7a914d4c5a696","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q121b278bf9c0bb8c41d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf29d6ff7a914d4c5a696","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q391b19c4f62c95b184b1","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":997,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-28T05:49:00.001Z","text":"罗伊的推，也是有人管理\n发什么内容，他自己说了不算\n他肉身还在不在，都是问题\nhttps://x.com/roy_guo64/status/2104394618120925368?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q391b19c4f62c95b184b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"},{"id":"q9b7f7393ba4c8ad65e11","batch_id":"batch-000160","seq":998,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-28T06:01:26.189Z","text":"［用户 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哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb3d3454e2a56e5beb6f4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20e002e0334c9621589a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3d3454e2a56e5beb6f4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000160"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000159","next_batch_id":"batch-000161"}