{"id":"batch-000161","number":161,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-09-28T06:05:39.256Z","date_end":"2026-10-01T19:08:57.854Z","total_messages":803,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 161 (Sep 28, 2026 – Oct 1, 2026), 803 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants debate recent Second Circuit rulings denying motions to recuse the judge and vacate victim-related orders, while evaluating how a newly appointed CJA defense counsel impacts the appeal. Debates focus on ancillary proceedings, the scope and validity of forfeiture orders, bankruptcy settlements, and the $889 million money judgment calculation. 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哈恩是恩典农场主？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d5a3502cb6ee5df2df7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q5113f82e017a940dff7a","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":603,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-30T20:26:28.300Z","text":"嗯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5113f82e017a940dff7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q2944fa0f0683a998f090","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":604,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-30T20:26:41.915Z","text":"韩国换过好几波了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2944fa0f0683a998f090","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qbfd8cca95bc88f471203","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":605,"speaker":"ken***","date":"2026-09-30T20:34:54.348Z","text":"那是韩国喜韩农场主 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韩国恩典农场是同时存在的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfd8cca95bc88f471203","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q66c5eefe5642115f7600","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":606,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-09-30T22:40:12.927Z","text":"長島這些推文可以作為呈堂證據嗎？如果可以的話，案件必須發回重審。請檢方把各個農場主都傳喚來，把他們各自手中沒有交出的錢給上交出來！好還給受害者。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q95314c1ec0221d307217","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66c5eefe5642115f7600","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95314c1ec0221d307217","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q6c3b8e2b206363c7b584","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":607,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-09-30T22:49:04.124Z","text":"再加上哈恩這個前農場主的證據，案件走到現在就是突顯美國法律被一群壞蛋玩弄，簡直兒戲！一點也不嚴謹！草菅人命！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c3b8e2b206363c7b584","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q80dfb8f381d0e1302350","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":608,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-30T23:04:22.128Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2105433517551386933?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80dfb8f381d0e1302350","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qf531ceaed7abfbab2534","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":609,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-30T23:04:37.778Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 我有点理解抠逼霉的选择了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf531ceaed7abfbab2534","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q3413a629b7c234d14936","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":610,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-30T23:53:37.173Z","text":"毕竟有孩子，有顾虑","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf531ceaed7abfbab2534","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3413a629b7c234d14936","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf531ceaed7abfbab2534","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q69f09ccd18ba1d76575f","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":611,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-30T23:55:00.864Z","text":"不像AVA那种，啥都敢瞎BB","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69f09ccd18ba1d76575f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qb4c5bf3ad5b49592da85","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":612,"speaker":"mon***","date":"2026-10-01T00:38:53.654Z","text":"爆料革命的人个人信息 汇总一下。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q80dfb8f381d0e1302350","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4c5bf3ad5b49592da85","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80dfb8f381d0e1302350","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qf4b1be49aa21462ab62e","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":613,"speaker":"mon***","date":"2026-10-01T00:39:25.021Z","text":"Qmay 举报一个准","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4b1be49aa21462ab62e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q82cf7eafd9c98469f4f7","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":614,"speaker":"mon***","date":"2026-10-01T00:39:44.124Z","text":"还有三票 飞飞那一帮[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82cf7eafd9c98469f4f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q5d70455868a029d9af9d","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":615,"speaker":"mon***","date":"2026-10-01T00:39:56.062Z","text":"卡尔爱丽丝 夫妇","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d70455868a029d9af9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q16c6ed247b04251754c3","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":616,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T00:40:04.502Z","text":"飞飞没用 美国公民","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16c6ed247b04251754c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qb5fec0d215852836a95c","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":617,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T00:40:15.507Z","text":"三嫖娼早就跑路了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5fec0d215852836a95c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q1ea0b34e12c5ba50305c","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":618,"speaker":"mon***","date":"2026-10-01T00:40:30.027Z","text":"郭海是 加拿大人还是 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你有什么消息吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c5077d85600dd93d00e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qdd949601fef75a2e2c19","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":660,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T01:02:13.168Z","text":"暂时没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c5077d85600dd93d00e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd949601fef75a2e2c19","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c5077d85600dd93d00e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qb62f629bc1aeca5fdfe7","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":661,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:02:28.244Z","text":"哈恩那个事情如果是真的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb62f629bc1aeca5fdfe7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qe22c05ec4757ac81c7f3","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":662,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:02:40.163Z","text":"那郭案可以从鸡巴开始推翻了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe22c05ec4757ac81c7f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qc5f3776a2ba73b566d56","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":663,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T01:03:32.358Z","text":"让她自己和二巡说去\n反正871已经把她拉进来\n她可以选择，卖韩国其他农场，和草根","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb62f629bc1aeca5fdfe7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5f3776a2ba73b566d56","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb62f629bc1aeca5fdfe7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q553300fe9c12f8890d5d","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":664,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:04:07.363Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5f3776a2ba73b566d56","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q553300fe9c12f8890d5d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5f3776a2ba73b566d56","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q6ba5ad992d01e4725664","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":665,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T01:05:02.658Z","text":"不是有个收据吗，草根代表联盟，从哈恩那拿走现金\n不管如何，投资款被联盟代表拿走，有没有入账，那是联盟的事\n联盟委员会，农场主，都算是未起诉共谋\n草根是签字人，有871，他也要回刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ba5ad992d01e4725664","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q7b336f5c79fc5e807c49","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":666,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T01:07:37.224Z","text":"你拿的到钱吗 [屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b336f5c79fc5e807c49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q59cebcaa4e67f5ef10a9","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":667,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:08:15.134Z","text":"当时可能是长岛在忽悠农场主签协议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59cebcaa4e67f5ef10a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q43867822f8b383577a8f","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":668,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:09:38.312Z","text":"信息量巨大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43867822f8b383577a8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qa77b81577c3be40dd731","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":669,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:10:02.623Z","text":"现在就是不知道 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受害者协议 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🤣 🤣 \nhttps://x.com/wansheng_cheng/status/2105402014666555434?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q775e52c6a88adb0dc3ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q7bc0b7b72bfd25f55a2a","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":682,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T01:33:57.287Z","text":"挺好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bc0b7b72bfd25f55a2a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qfaa8a5e4139628c0bfcb","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":683,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T01:34:16.999Z","text":"自诉帮可以键盘祈福","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaa8a5e4139628c0bfcb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qbcab423bd7bf62c9d091","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":684,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T01:36:22.659Z","text":"意淫有啥意思","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcab423bd7bf62c9d091","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q0fb49ad130556afa43e0","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":685,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T01:36:30.955Z","text":"螺丝哥被关是事实","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fb49ad130556afa43e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qf73cbda24b7e40e8ed44","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":686,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T01:40:18.797Z","text":"这是之前长岛那个推的，截图，放在这，防他删帖","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf73cbda24b7e40e8ed44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q67c54cbe2c61f9fd6a2b","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":687,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T01:41:41.630Z","text":"下面部分，提到秘翻组，借贷也给了ACA 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法院都找错了","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd0ffae8cdc20432ed282","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f353b76e152bf7f873a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qbba3395b8bbcafc2a5d4","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":690,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-01T01:45:23.316Z","text":"最开始，借贷款项要给王雁平和于，后来就是放在联盟自己相关实体账户上，联盟自己的账户，庭审里显示的，是木兰在具体打理。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbba3395b8bbcafc2a5d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q7a2a7be530e1e9a6b289","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":691,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:45:48.353Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 你公示送达的程序是错的","edited":true,"reply_to":"qdfdbb11027f1fe1d7d54","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a2a7be530e1e9a6b289","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q83cdb1df74ba46cda5b6","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":692,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:45:58.708Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 你没有进due diligence","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83cdb1df74ba46cda5b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qa25bc873098708860cf4","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":693,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T01:46:04.670Z","text":"然后她把黑锅，甩给长岛，长岛再甩给郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbba3395b8bbcafc2a5d4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa25bc873098708860cf4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbba3395b8bbcafc2a5d4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q91c90450d576123d22f8","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":694,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:48:28.479Z","text":"说实话 从郭不控制联盟的角度 不太行 因为庭审有证据证明有些钱是郭让转的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbba3395b8bbcafc2a5d4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91c90450d576123d22f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbba3395b8bbcafc2a5d4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qa15ccb027eea258f8137","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":695,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-01T01:49:12.056Z","text":"于的那部分可以用法律要件不足打掉，联盟的那部分可以用它们独立诈骗打掉，转到王雁平那里的，它认罪了，说它知道boss在犯罪。其它内部行为人，可以用政府在证人可信度材料披露违规干掉，但王雁平这个，如果不把资金隔离的证据拿出来，还真不好翻。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa15ccb027eea258f8137","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q5a191d266be9aaba15aa","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":696,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:49:43.239Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 报纸出来你一定要发给我 这是托雷斯泄露受害人隐私导致联盟余孽司法报复的最佳证据","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9d1937fc679f259d71bd","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a191d266be9aaba15aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qcd52ee237af27768f6d7","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":697,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:50:12.395Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  真的地址不去serve 去公示送达 这就是自诉人被司法武器化的铁证","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd52ee237af27768f6d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q6b80794f03372eeb7c3a","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":698,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T01:50:55.531Z","text":"青藤骂木兰的时候，基本是把底裤都扒掉了\n还把木兰公司，闷钱的事，都说了\nhttps://x.com/panshirock77/status/2040963045887762615?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b80794f03372eeb7c3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q07e8998cc8ee01cbdaa9","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":699,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:51:14.075Z","text":"就是托雷斯泄露的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q33d6b0ce9c279847fc3b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07e8998cc8ee01cbdaa9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q0e5dddcb383678f5bc63","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":700,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-01T01:53:10.758Z","text":"郭控制联盟，到郭用联盟干坏事，不能简单划等号，政府需要完成证明，如果根本就没有这部分要件，就算陪审团定罪了，还是可以推翻。陪审团只判断事实问题，不判断也没能力判断法律问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91c90450d576123d22f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e5dddcb383678f5bc63","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91c90450d576123d22f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qfe72c46d88a931ce8171","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":701,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:54:03.669Z","text":"法律上可以 但这个角度扯不清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e5dddcb383678f5bc63","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe72c46d88a931ce8171","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e5dddcb383678f5bc63","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qf55e727a2f3dfcb03371","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":702,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:54:32.007Z","text":"郭对联盟的号召力是客观存在的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf55e727a2f3dfcb03371","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q0986755992496611377b","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":703,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T01:54:34.525Z","text":"或者这样说，农场借贷，出问题的环节，是于收钱后不给+农场主不退","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e5dddcb383678f5bc63","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0986755992496611377b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e5dddcb383678f5bc63","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qc27f5c85ff9f4e0ccd5d","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":704,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:55:01.061Z","text":"坏就坏在有些钱 汇款 也是郭的意思","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0986755992496611377b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc27f5c85ff9f4e0ccd5d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0986755992496611377b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q754c7e9156eb1d7c148d","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":705,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:55:06.467Z","text":"这个角度扯不清楚的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q754c7e9156eb1d7c148d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q7152e172d751a1c0696d","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":706,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:57:40.310Z","text":"他现在在缅甸一样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q052178f30c502aca4fa6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7152e172d751a1c0696d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q921b8cec6ebac39dd126","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":707,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:59:04.927Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 你是个[屏蔽词] 新闻出来干什么？ 给我们用在郭案翻案？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q289af30f7967f48d4e42","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q921b8cec6ebac39dd126","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qe5ab38908bdd02e4a933","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":708,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T01:59:31.157Z","text":"既然抓螺丝哥 就不会露出半点声音","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5ab38908bdd02e4a933","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q62896224a1244548a43d","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":709,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T02:00:23.008Z","text":"你不是说螺丝哥不会被抓吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe5ab38908bdd02e4a933","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62896224a1244548a43d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5ab38908bdd02e4a933","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q19e4c0e2619a256acde1","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":710,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T02:00:30.169Z","text":"共匪不是害怕螺丝哥吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19e4c0e2619a256acde1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q6b418bd5aa6f0efbe3a9","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":711,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T02:00:32.216Z","text":"借贷，最后成诈骗，出问题环节，讲道理，应该是没有按时给利息吧？\n庭审检方，可能耍心机，把ACA capital说成是郭家族公司，借贷进了这里，又出去到了郭家人公司，用于消费\n［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"qc27f5c85ff9f4e0ccd5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b418bd5aa6f0efbe3a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc27f5c85ff9f4e0ccd5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q50ef6c055d7d90a7744a","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":712,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:01:31.905Z","text":"他自己说的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q62896224a1244548a43d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ef6c055d7d90a7744a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62896224a1244548a43d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q9e1aa7ddb570a5a69214","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":713,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T02:02:11.250Z","text":"他已经不是被抓不被抓的问题了 他这辈子完了 工作找不到","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50ef6c055d7d90a7744a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e1aa7ddb570a5a69214","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ef6c055d7d90a7744a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qb06a103ee595b50f75f4","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":714,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T02:02:40.457Z","text":"这就是你们的喜国信仰","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb06a103ee595b50f75f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qf9639b35d7d74c698a3a","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":715,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T02:03:13.239Z","text":"被骗钱 骗感情 连人生都给你毁了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9639b35d7d74c698a3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q1b0efc6daaba6dcab4c3","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":716,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:03:16.662Z","text":"不是 庭审有录音 我记得是证明了郭让转钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b418bd5aa6f0efbe3a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b0efc6daaba6dcab4c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b418bd5aa6f0efbe3a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q45ffb15baf618c9e1d0e","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":717,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T02:04:18.374Z","text":"转ACA capital 下游才是洗钱诈骗\nACA上游的事，和犯罪无关","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1b0efc6daaba6dcab4c3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45ffb15baf618c9e1d0e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b0efc6daaba6dcab4c3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q61d6cf62475ca2ac1997","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":718,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:04:41.778Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 螺丝哥这条人命是himam背的","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf9639b35d7d74c698a3a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61d6cf62475ca2ac1997","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9639b35d7d74c698a3a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qed158914cee5876b4d90","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":719,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:05:06.988Z","text":"对的 所以郭是boss","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45ffb15baf618c9e1d0e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed158914cee5876b4d90","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45ffb15baf618c9e1d0e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q8198694cf10e0e03957f","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":720,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-01T02:08:29.779Z","text":"在法律上，要证明同时性故意，就是要证明，郭在让人们参与农场借贷时，就没打算给利息以及可能的替代回报，比如gtv股票。后面没有给钱或者其它回报安排，作为一种间接证据（证明诈骗意图只能间接证明），是属于比较弱的证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b418bd5aa6f0efbe3a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8198694cf10e0e03957f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b418bd5aa6f0efbe3a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qf95efe4d95cf53431ade","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":721,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T02:09:31.771Z","text":"我就是这个意思，下游ACA capital不给利息，是他余建民的事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8198694cf10e0e03957f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf95efe4d95cf53431ade","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8198694cf10e0e03957f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q851cccce000d6916327f","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":722,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:10:06.971Z","text":"但坏在他们证明了rico","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf95efe4d95cf53431ade","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q851cccce000d6916327f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf95efe4d95cf53431ade","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q2dc0b4b5d79b6fe5f6a8","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":723,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:10:12.568Z","text":"所以下游全都是郭的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dc0b4b5d79b6fe5f6a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q55e5b9c0e0c6069e5d6b","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":724,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-01T02:10:14.728Z","text":"证明意图的证据，通常需要被告的录音，录音里有怎么造假，怎么应付执法检查的内容，这类证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55e5b9c0e0c6069e5d6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q5eebe5199cbc04013844","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":725,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T02:12:06.582Z","text":"借贷这个事，检方在ACA capital归属上做手脚\n同时在其他项目，弄了rico","edited":false,"reply_to":"q851cccce000d6916327f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5eebe5199cbc04013844","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q851cccce000d6916327f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q588748620988de62c999","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":726,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-01T02:12:21.567Z","text":"不给利益，在合同里是农场联盟的事。在rico下，就是郭的问题，但政府证据如果只是事后没兑现，通常不足以证明同时性故意，要证明一开始就没打算兑现。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf95efe4d95cf53431ade","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q588748620988de62c999","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf95efe4d95cf53431ade","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qd1031f7b10532ad3c4e6","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":727,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:12:27.900Z","text":"是的 其实主要就是rico","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5eebe5199cbc04013844","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1031f7b10532ad3c4e6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5eebe5199cbc04013844","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q2dbaf9eba1d4f824f833","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":728,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:12:35.639Z","text":"没rico 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所以扯这些我觉得没用","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67458d680cab56080cd5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q2647a9519e6eaf371533","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":733,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:18:47.411Z","text":"这个战场是检方和托雷斯的主场","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2647a9519e6eaf371533","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q14239b5aa1a1367b4041","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":734,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:21:05.338Z","text":"当然都是假的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c4242cd620b7af7a2b9","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14239b5aa1a1367b4041","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qfeb13035e8fa84a3eccd","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":735,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:21:25.570Z","text":"ps痕迹都这么明显了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfeb13035e8fa84a3eccd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q549e4c192543642b8b20","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":736,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T02:21:35.461Z","text":"托雷斯不让提中共，可检方找农场主做污点证人，还通过中共","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q549e4c192543642b8b20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q7d49deede5bd09b751aa","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":737,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:22:30.912Z","text":"真正不让提中共的是不让提中共和检方合作","edited":false,"reply_to":"q549e4c192543642b8b20","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d49deede5bd09b751aa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q549e4c192543642b8b20","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q293e46912e4aa6a90943","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":738,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:22:43.297Z","text":"托雷斯同意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q293e46912e4aa6a90943","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qffb37257484acfd9cb68","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":739,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:22:58.322Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 这就是为什么哈恩的推闯了大祸了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffb37257484acfd9cb68","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q1ff1de9a300d852fe5a4","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":740,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T02:23:27.799Z","text":"意见虎 是报假案的事 找受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"qffb37257484acfd9cb68","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ff1de9a300d852fe5a4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffb37257484acfd9cb68","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q5c8ae0d89d4b4bfbf67a","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":741,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:23:37.546Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  检方不让提中共和检方合作 是庭审前的动议 如果哈恩说的是真的 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托雷斯居然还grant","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c8ae0d89d4b4bfbf67a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b6ba64cd4ba12d623d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c8ae0d89d4b4bfbf67a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q6bd4fb7da0de8d5f0671","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":746,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:30:01.633Z","text":"托雷斯说 辩方没想这么说 所以grant","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b6ba64cd4ba12d623d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bd4fb7da0de8d5f0671","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b6ba64cd4ba12d623d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qd954aadd3b03bff28e2a","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":747,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:32:27.013Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 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对案件是毁灭性的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf72d98ebd975acf5f444","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qbbca2d586a41f29df289","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":749,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T02:33:52.769Z","text":"检方弄到证人，证人又有被胁迫\n证词真假存疑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbca2d586a41f29df289","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q903c916af1d13c639949","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":750,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:34:00.013Z","text":"就是这个意思","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbbca2d586a41f29df289","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q903c916af1d13c639949","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbca2d586a41f29df289","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q78147468dfb8def5f753","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":751,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:34:18.082Z","text":"如果真是被ccp胁迫 那还把检方的motion给废了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78147468dfb8def5f753","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qd7944ad579f4e7de89e0","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":752,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:34:23.458Z","text":"然后托雷斯裁决错误","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7944ad579f4e7de89e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q2eda60ea169d7a200f54","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":753,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:34:34.799Z","text":"因为没有做实事finding","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eda60ea169d7a200f54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qb8dd2c15dcdb1fcf80cd","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":754,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:35:11.033Z","text":"检方和中共有没有勾结 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问题是长岛没有不起诉协议","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc63e35c537ecacf59d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q795d3f08234fd5db52de","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":792,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T16:30:17.600Z","text":"怎么长岛去威胁别人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q795d3f08234fd5db52de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q7f133b686ae985e3d512","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":793,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T16:31:18.787Z","text":"你七哥和联盟关系好着呢 你为什么针对联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":"q709b2019f97ca036d5be","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f133b686ae985e3d512","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"q51660b41ebd1125d32c2","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":794,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-10-01T16:32:42.891Z","text":"你和七哥作对？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51660b41ebd1125d32c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161"},{"id":"qd932d0599cbc5c8a6726","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":795,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T16:32:55.917Z","text":"盖尔的6000人授权填表\n联盟共谋，鼓动参与\n检方也质疑过，这6000人哪里冒出来的 \n［用户 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