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螺丝哥我代表了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q61020828187e056434a6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6dbd81372e94836d367","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qeaff9a936ef2cc31e082","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":6,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-09T20:23:58.291Z","text":"其他语音我当然不公布","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaff9a936ef2cc31e082","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe0c7b32a85ee300cde3a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":7,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-09T20:36:28.157Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/2108657686954824065?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0c7b32a85ee300cde3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q85a935e1fbf78fc448f8","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":8,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-09T20:36:45.445Z","text":"［用户 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joh***］ 你有没有觉得螺丝哥其实是安小东的灾星","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e22b1ad6c967bd7bb9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb61d4f1ab448b3ef0b03","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":12,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T00:11:14.470Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 螺丝哥之前 安小东怎么说也是个被郭念过的大v 但自从自信过度想忽悠螺丝哥后，安小东节节败退 第三梯队凉凉 没收凉凉 螺丝哥识破安小东 群主也丢了 干啥啥不行","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb61d4f1ab448b3ef0b03","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q68763a8689b4a4a15dec","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":13,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T00:14:10.485Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 刘华强语录：给你机会，你不中啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68763a8689b4a4a15dec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q5eb744cd14acff305a23","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":14,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T00:15:21.181Z","text":"她 ［用户 him***］ 级别低于屁酱，屁酱低于安红","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5eb744cd14acff305a23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q84e53c42f3ae2809efdf","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":15,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T00:15:50.269Z","text":"Anthon 就是安红 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名字也像","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47fb5a42cafb07da217b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q59d4b31dde49aba656c9","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":18,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T00:16:17.298Z","text":"把t去掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59d4b31dde49aba656c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q29d0e93143ca8ec1585d","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":19,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T00:16:37.803Z","text":"之前不说，是要继续看看安小东的推文","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29d0e93143ca8ec1585d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qca192482941d6b540461","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":20,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T00:22:19.201Z","text":"魔女那边，转向靠拢qmay\n青藤那边，在树倒猢狲散\n安红接手老椅子，屁酱又回盖特，明摆着要第三梯队，可问题是，qmay直接投诚了，第三梯队就成了鸡肋，可有可无","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca192482941d6b540461","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd7b5a091578c83d8d7cc","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":21,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T00:26:56.251Z","text":"之前再自诉群，给联盟骨干们，挖了多大的坑，要她自己来填 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并且涉嫌违法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98f907142b02ee8d0a05","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2db68b4d095cd68c2fb3","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":40,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T01:13:32.331Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q98f907142b02ee8d0a05","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2db68b4d095cd68c2fb3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98f907142b02ee8d0a05","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe6132851cee0a844950f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":41,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:13:32.812Z","text":"检方是否有这个资格？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6132851cee0a844950f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qdc3dc63b299ffac5c045","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":42,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T01:13:47.952Z","text":"和解是郭进去以后","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc3dc63b299ffac5c045","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q80da1f8350c08fa2f53a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":43,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T01:14:03.746Z","text":"这个不在协议范围，协议只涵盖刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80da1f8350c08fa2f53a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb281248c82875e331f83","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":44,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T01:15:28.499Z","text":"有没有协议，书面的，口头的，也无所谓\n长岛和解的借贷855w，张闷的GTV2000人退款，都是刑事案涉案资金\n这些损失，已经都有二巡CVRA上去，这部分都要有人独立担责，因为和郭，扯不上关系\n郭不是受益人，不是指挥者，资金终端与郭家族无关，资金用途只有公司受益人知道，而且都是刑事案共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb281248c82875e331f83","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":45,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-10T01:19:31.782Z","text":"农场借贷进入maywind,以及其它各农场收款实体，在庭审里，政府是通过所谓内部行为人证词展现，人们听了郭的陈述后把钱转给农场，这个地方的问题是，这种忽悠方式，把演员们的对有信托责任的投资款的侵占，挪用，欺诈转移，嫁接成了郭的诈骗意图。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qec353f151ff3ab65d142","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec353f151ff3ab65d142","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe3c9197437b1c414846a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":46,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:19:58.462Z","text":"这是最麻烦的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3c9197437b1c414846a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc5cc17efedfcf2d005d5","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":47,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:20:14.974Z","text":"陪审团已经定罪了 这个东西 第三方拆不掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5cc17efedfcf2d005d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q5533be68d06b81ca9314","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":48,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T01:20:22.268Z","text":"单独拎出来maywind\n这部分钱，有没有算进去1.1亿，CVRA怎么解决，不然不能最终没收","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3c9197437b1c414846a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5533be68d06b81ca9314","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3c9197437b1c414846a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qadcf451887667b2beb9e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":49,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:22:05.518Z","text":"maywind 被贪污的钱 如果在没收和金钱判决里 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那需要把演员加回起诉书","edited":true,"reply_to":"q86043fe8e4004fc654c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75d89f503f1591c4a4ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86043fe8e4004fc654c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2f97201b06c8af9c090e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":71,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-10T01:36:59.540Z","text":"那是政府的问题，它们滥用不起诉权力，选择性起诉，到现在，庭审时，已经调查了三年，政府已经调查了5年，夏诉魏结案是在2024年，然后还搞不清楚演员们自己闷钱，叫做应当知道。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q75d89f503f1591c4a4ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f97201b06c8af9c090e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75d89f503f1591c4a4ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q9aee753ab4d7b8b1aef5","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":72,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T01:39:56.719Z","text":"这个是检方装瞎","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2f97201b06c8af9c090e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aee753ab4d7b8b1aef5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f97201b06c8af9c090e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q935cd7ea5c1a58730700","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":73,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-10T01:41:34.201Z","text":"政府会说演员独立诈骗并不完全排斥郭指挥它们诈骗，两者可以并存。但是政府的证明过程中的证人可信度披露违规，以及共谋者陈述的裁量错误，把对应的证据排除，结果会不一样。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q935cd7ea5c1a58730700","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q0fc7f659aa5b50287155","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":74,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T01:41:34.266Z","text":"几个人本就是co-conspirator，长岛闷的855w，张闷的2000人退款，足够把他们再拉回来刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q75d89f503f1591c4a4ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fc7f659aa5b50287155","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75d89f503f1591c4a4ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q59a93aa7de9b1ea00975","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":75,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T01:42:25.029Z","text":"独立诈骗，那正好，现在二巡的材料都有，这些不解决，影响郭案王案的财产处理，不能没收\n想案子继续走下去，那就把共谋拉回来，独立的子案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q935cd7ea5c1a58730700","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59a93aa7de9b1ea00975","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q935cd7ea5c1a58730700","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q80a53410f0d3ad0296a6","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":76,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T01:45:47.762Z","text":"子案这部分，在主案已经量刑定罪的情况下，长岛等要独立担责\n单独起诉后，他们在主案的协议，自动失效，不管口头还是书面，都无所谓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80a53410f0d3ad0296a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qa23205e9c58768f0cfbc","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":77,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-10T01:46:50.184Z","text":"改起诉书即可，在演员们非法套现出金的证据出来后，于建明有哪些罪，这些演员都有。它们在各个项目上可没有少吹牛逼，它们吹牛逼的目的就是为了让更多的韭菜进来他们好闷更多的钱，妥妥的诈骗。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59a93aa7de9b1ea00975","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa23205e9c58768f0cfbc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59a93aa7de9b1ea00975","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q5b42eeff477218e22d92","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":78,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:50:28.951Z","text":"谁说没有人骂？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b42eeff477218e22d92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd24f1975503626f29f16","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":79,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:50:33.796Z","text":"郭文贵诈骗犯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd24f1975503626f29f16","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qec51c949febacbae845b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":80,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:50:53.081Z","text":"马上骗到你的钱了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcbfda184966077432978","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messag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懂吗","edited":true,"reply_to":"q071b1b985ded31dd3e53","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dd4c465a02137be154e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q1d850aa6d47955887fed","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":83,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:54:27.084Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］  你有本事 写一个？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d850aa6d47955887fed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qf4e31a03db3a89e42a65","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":84,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:55:53.569Z","text":"关键不是什么破法院","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4e31a03db3a89e42a65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qfe094a2215e734f46e16","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":85,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:55:58.766Z","text":"是你妈联邦上诉法院","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe094a2215e734f46e16","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q1f32ed58dfb104c9b18f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":86,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:56:54.987Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］ 用855w拉长岛，公平基金拉张，拉这几个回刑事案\n一是这部分，他们要独立担责\n二是如果子案重新起诉，主案的不起诉协议，失效\n主案要被拆开，这个是重点","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f32ed58dfb104c9b18f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q97910f736845ba37cf69","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":87,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:57:18.416Z","text":"长岛知道你是谁就行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ccf4959005d3f9c24da","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97910f736845ba37cf69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qfc4b0a997d586732a062","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":88,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T01:57:37.574Z","text":"主案拆开，那么就不存在没收整个G系列的选项，几个项目，实际负责人，受益人，300骨干农场主，都要回来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f32ed58dfb104c9b18f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc4b0a997d586732a062","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f32ed58dfb104c9b18f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q1d8c9df94f1083872cbc","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":89,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:57:38.504Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］  你卖长岛 现在人尽皆知","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d8c9df94f1083872cbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q589db6cb2ef43b03e83c","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":90,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:57:47.090Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 你就是要掩盖这个","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1f32ed58dfb104c9b18f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q589db6cb2ef43b03e83c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f32ed58dfb104c9b18f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q3f1b9d7da8cd16d4f10b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":91,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T01:59:12.044Z","text":"那就简单了\n长岛与maywind/aeon和解的455+400w\n张永兵闷的2000人GTV退款","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc4b0a997d586732a062","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f1b9d7da8cd16d4f10b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc4b0a997d586732a062","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe9b28e64ce6d27d1bbfc","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":92,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T01:59:12.910Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 你别挣扎了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9b28e64ce6d27d1bbfc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q747d0bca4f56a576e53f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":93,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T02:01:05.892Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 我认为 如果上诉律师聪明 就应该用这几个点打aic","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfc4b0a997d586732a062","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q747d0bca4f56a576e53f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc4b0a997d586732a062","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q39bf704fdf81771d2148","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":94,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T02:01:30.643Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 哈恩 草根 唐平\n都要被拉回来\n证据都在二巡了，可以串起来","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39bf704fdf81771d2148","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q0077b2b32230fb62d60c","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":95,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T02:02:10.500Z","text":"第三方这几个月，继续堆证据嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":"q747d0bca4f56a576e53f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0077b2b32230fb62d60c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q747d0bca4f56a576e53f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qfa8b7a5d9f8fef968cdd","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":96,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T02:02:30.678Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 堆不了了 只有四个月后","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0077b2b32230fb62d60c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa8b7a5d9f8fef968cdd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0077b2b32230fb62d60c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8fcbb2d944419470ed99","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":97,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T02:02:59.596Z","text":"renew 把material放上去","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa8b7a5d9f8fef968cdd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fcbb2d944419470ed99","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa8b7a5d9f8fef968cdd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8365ee37bc97a3319ef5","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":98,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T02:03:08.818Z","text":"到时候一起串","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8365ee37bc97a3319ef5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd602ee7b0994b81a2752","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":99,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T02:03:28.900Z","text":"看谁先撑不住","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd602ee7b0994b81a2752","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8d564404aeefda3c3278","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":100,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T02:03:44.459Z","text":"检方还是300骨干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d564404aeefda3c3278","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q5291e5fa15e8cf5d1dc9","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":101,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-10T02:06:32.665Z","text":"最终没收令没下，已经量刑，量刑后renew 之前应该依然可以保存记录，难道量刑后的规则跟量刑前不一样？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa8b7a5d9f8fef968cdd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5291e5fa15e8cf5d1dc9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa8b7a5d9f8fef968cdd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q018877283dd7dfa6a551","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":102,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T02:15:21.669Z","text":"盖尔，6000人，就是个笑话\n本就是喜交所相关的律师，跑去代理喜交所的受害者\nHamilton的律师，又是余的律师，代理喜交所大额的受害者，更是笑话","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47041671f3a9b734eb1c","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q018877283dd7dfa6a551","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q67c614c775b110fa0d8a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":103,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T02:20:28.497Z","text":"南区检方，给自己留了足够的余地，一个是未起诉共谋，一个是最终没收清单\n南区全身而退，锅不就是300骨干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67c614c775b110fa0d8a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q7a879b6848d15bb9c6cb","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":104,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T03:43:42.868Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］ \nfarm loan这块，MOS.LLC自己的455w+代理的400w，也可以把魏，拉回刑事案","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a879b6848d15bb9c6cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc2faed4da42938334245","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":105,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T03:45:07.983Z","text":"CVRA拉长岛，是他的虚假代理，共谋身份，没权利代理投资者，索要投资，造成损失","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2faed4da42938334245","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2a40ee38b5642da28589","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":106,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T03:47:43.051Z","text":"这855w部分钱，长岛从G service/Aeon收回813W，庭审意思是855-maywind-G-service/Aeon，最后返回813到长岛的MOS","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a40ee38b5642da28589","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2b064fbde14aa6f4aa5a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":107,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T03:49:26.277Z","text":"民事和解，证实farm loan有855流进maywind，同时这部分并没有进入到1.1亿的总帐","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b064fbde14aa6f4aa5a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc62d6a8d79f2f6124245","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":108,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-10T03:52:41.279Z","text":"夏诉魏里的法官的意思是mos只能代表自己讨债，它只能要455万，另外那两个地方的钱是从maywind 转过去的钱，从G service/Aeon拿的钱视同从maywind 拿钱，所以maywind 不再需要拿钱给夏，法官还在困惑，夏为什么可以拿超过455万。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a40ee38b5642da28589","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc62d6a8d79f2f6124245","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a40ee38b5642da28589","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q29f1fe910ef12c67820e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":109,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T03:54:27.610Z","text":"对的，这意思就是，maywind承认，至少闷了farm loan MOS农场的455w\n最后还了总额813w，不用管他们怎么解释","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc62d6a8d79f2f6124245","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29f1fe910ef12c67820e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc62d6a8d79f2f6124245","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qbdba4f695417a8b91dc3","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":110,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T03:56:05.320Z","text":"问题是，这部分的farm loan，至少455W，不在1.1亿里，庭审意思是，7700w通过ACA capital入账，3300w其他渠道入账\n和解，就是说maywind承认，至少MOS 的455w farm loan，被闷了，没有入账","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdba4f695417a8b91dc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q078793615fc62c09e492","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":111,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T03:59:46.987Z","text":"其他人委托给长岛的400w，长岛没有代理权，但他没有披露\nhelen的二巡，有长岛签字的借贷合同，那么这部分钱，被maywind闷，没有入总帐，这部分损失，需要maywind单独担责","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q078793615fc62c09e492","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qcf9ae8037f935f7dff5d","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":112,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-10T04:01:44.291Z","text":"2020年或者是2022年 夏诉9指， 早于刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b064fbde14aa6f4aa5a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf9ae8037f935f7dff5d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b064fbde14aa6f4aa5a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q87a696407d58dd77d0a1","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":113,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-10T04:02:25.008Z","text":"但是夏2024 没对法官说这件事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87a696407d58dd77d0a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qf53c4398f17e20848349","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":114,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T04:02:27.593Z","text":"无所谓，从刑事案起诉书开始，长岛就没有代理权了\n没有披露，是长岛的事","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf9ae8037f935f7dff5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf53c4398f17e20848349","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf9ae8037f935f7dff5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc588da53c4aaa0eb83e0","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":115,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T04:03:19.413Z","text":"helen的借贷合同，是直接走长岛的MOS，还是？我不太确定","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf9ae8037f935f7dff5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc588da53c4aaa0eb83e0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf9ae8037f935f7dff5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q4a550a962f43788dd9d6","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":116,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-10T04:03:36.388Z","text":"不清楚她的合同","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a550a962f43788dd9d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qa50aca5549d436fcfbf1","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":117,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T04:04:16.811Z","text":"倒也无所谓，反正涉及了这和解的455+400","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed9f17104f7ce04b0e5d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa50aca5549d436fcfbf1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q090059a2385833f755c1","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":118,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-10T04:04:39.820Z","text":"我的凤凰借款， 与9指 ， 后来与英国的事儿上见 签了几次合同","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q090059a2385833f755c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q02b68f91613634c78f25","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":119,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T04:05:13.533Z","text":"可以啊，继续堆\n肯定有用的，后面还要拉英国大卫","edited":false,"reply_to":"q090059a2385833f755c1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02b68f91613634c78f25","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q090059a2385833f755c1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qa4fa2cee38fbf2bdf561","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":120,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T04:06:57.685Z","text":"不管怎么样，helen的farm loan投资，肯定是进了maywind，后来又通过G-service/Aeon返回了MOS.LLC，她没有收到钱，CVRA","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa50aca5549d436fcfbf1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4fa2cee38fbf2bdf561","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa50aca5549d436fcfbf1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q06e88cba811b8f7ffdc9","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":121,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T04:07:28.698Z","text":"重点是，这部分资金，没有入账检方的1.1亿\n或者说，这笔投资，flow显示，一直游离在刑事案以外\n858量刑后，这笔farm loan投资，一定是算进G系列涉案资产\n那么，检方要么更改郭的量刑总金额，要么开单独子案，co-conspirator是长岛，maywind的Chen，还有G-service的魏\n［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06e88cba811b8f7ffdc9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q95fa9cc12874fff9372a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":122,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T04:53:47.503Z","text":"如果金钱判决都错了 那就搞笑了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06e88cba811b8f7ffdc9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95fa9cc12874fff9372a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06e88cba811b8f7ffdc9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q9fb007eabac1131e4999","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":123,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T04:54:07.788Z","text":"虽然金钱判决的计算方式已经被tony打爆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fb007eabac1131e4999","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q05ff0549e0053e6302b4","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":124,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T04:54:42.065Z","text":"但长岛这个属于技术性错误","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05ff0549e0053e6302b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q469357d88aaf4fdb1141","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":125,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T04:54:45.695Z","text":"更不应该","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q469357d88aaf4fdb1141","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q613f4c31cce051902610","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":126,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T05:38:26.404Z","text":"作为maywind控制人，魏丽红是未起诉共谋\nfarm 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但是我总感觉会牵扯到别的程序","edited":true,"reply_to":"q613f4c31cce051902610","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6df8997b6a3ebbd7a00b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q613f4c31cce051902610","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q5ac34a203c83ef61b0ba","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":128,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T07:02:01.292Z","text":"反正王 郭的最终没收，垮了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6df8997b6a3ebbd7a00b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ac34a203c83ef61b0ba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6df8997b6a3ebbd7a00b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q680e65e94aeaae858811","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":129,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T07:02:14.309Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 你要担责啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q680e65e94aeaae858811","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd99d035d15f7ceb3e458","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":130,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-10T07:56:05.429Z","text":"联盟，农场之间有法律关系吗？老郭跟这些组织没有任何法律关系吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd99d035d15f7ceb3e458","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q35850655770046026c69","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":131,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-10T08:06:19.482Z","text":"本来没有，通过刑事程序确立了rico的法律关系。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd99d035d15f7ceb3e458","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35850655770046026c69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd99d035d15f7ceb3e458","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8216f7c1aafb9f57cff1","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":132,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-10T08:12:23.516Z","text":"有没有可能最后老郭出来了，但钱还是诈骗资金，继续没收？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q49515f2eb0fb42594994","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8216f7c1aafb9f57cff1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49515f2eb0fb42594994","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q29ec4a3c60c08ad6982e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":133,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-10T08:13:24.064Z","text":"是这样。只是责任人换了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8216f7c1aafb9f57cff1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29ec4a3c60c08ad6982e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8216f7c1aafb9f57cff1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd2f2340a5a7782cbd4fd","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":134,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-10T08:13:58.297Z","text":"所以，钱还是拿不回来？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q29ec4a3c60c08ad6982e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2f2340a5a7782cbd4fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29ec4a3c60c08ad6982e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qfed65d5479536ed6be6b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":135,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-10T08:15:11.435Z","text":"会回来一部分，因为破产案也会翻转。然后看政府愿意去追回多少。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd2f2340a5a7782cbd4fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfed65d5479536ed6be6b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2f2340a5a7782cbd4fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q3a54716a40ac5cb8d594","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":136,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-10T08:15:43.396Z","text":"但时间会很漫长。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a54716a40ac5cb8d594","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q20a321ca43c8b26e3faf","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":137,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-10T08:17:23.529Z","text":"靠政府态度吗？是看骗子们剩下多少钱还有他们愿不愿意退钱换减刑吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfed65d5479536ed6be6b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20a321ca43c8b26e3faf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfed65d5479536ed6be6b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q4382b7339d7dbfaade42","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":138,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-10T08:18:05.140Z","text":"另外，检方冻结资产给投资人造成损失，这笔账怎么算","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4382b7339d7dbfaade42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q68d09c99e8d822374586","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":139,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-10T08:29:05.183Z","text":"可以找诈骗犯强制赔偿。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4382b7339d7dbfaade42","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68d09c99e8d822374586","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4382b7339d7dbfaade42","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech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spr***］ 858已经量刑，借贷都在涉案资金，长岛吞813w，要被拉回刑事案，还把魏连累了，案子只能增加起诉人，然后重申","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9d11214f99f399ce6d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2cffceb4ee2c5b4f6b62","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":149,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-10T15:59:01.960Z","text":"真的？ 哪里的信息？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ffdb1d08594e8f2d5bd","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cffceb4ee2c5b4f6b62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qfe6abe01bfc78ab7e183","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":150,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-10T16:01:38.149Z","text":"有小道消息，但没书面证据\n［用户 spr***］ 当然，你肯定不认","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2cffceb4ee2c5b4f6b62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe6abe01bfc78ab7e183","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cffceb4ee2c5b4f6b62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q81dc6bf2e890551d3902","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":151,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-10T16:46:06.811Z","text":"逻辑判断就能得出这个结论 ［用户 beg***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfe6abe01bfc78ab7e183","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81dc6bf2e890551d3902","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe6abe01bfc78ab7e183","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qfb64c531061bf2e8fb33","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":152,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-10T17:01:37.749Z","text":"联盟，农场主们当被告啊，但钱还是那些钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qedf98bddaaf911766269","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb64c531061bf2e8fb33","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedf98bddaaf911766269","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qbcb005afb1c0160034af","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":153,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-10T18:39:06.760Z","text":"共产党老谋深算 - 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