{"id":"batch-000163","number":163,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-10-09T20:21:17.501Z","date_end":"2026-10-18T02:57:02.212Z","total_messages":1002,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 163 (Oct 9, 2026 – Oct 18, 2026), 1,002 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants dispute whether farm loans and settlement payments were included in the accounting, how funds moved, and whether trial evidence supports claims about control and ownership. They discuss investor recovery, forfeiture and appeals, including lawyer effectiveness and possible retrial. One participant challenges differing treatment of third-party motions in No. 26-1476 and 25-3046, associated with 1:23-cr-00118-AT. 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amounts discussed at trial."},{"message_id":"q4151f595a16140593c13","summary_en":"joh*** contends that Maywind’s settlement shows it operated independently of MOS LLC."},{"message_id":"qbdba4f695417a8b91dc3","summary_en":"joh*** argues that at least $4.55 million in farm loans was omitted from the $110 million total."}]},{"title":"Trial evidence, fund flows and disputed amounts","description":"reb*** and joh*** challenge interpretations of the evidence and financial amounts.","message_ids":["qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","q45003e285fa2a0b55a68","qe10e2392292b937475c4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","summary_en":"reb*** contends that testimony attributed others’ alleged misuse of farm investments to Guo’s fraudulent intent."},{"message_id":"q45003e285fa2a0b55a68","summary_en":"joh*** argues that funds allegedly withheld by Long Island and Zhang cannot be linked to Guo, undermining the overall G-series amount."},{"message_id":"qe10e2392292b937475c4","summary_en":"joh*** contends that appellate evidence concerning Zhang and Fair Fund refunds warrants prosecutors bringing him back."}]},{"title":"Third-party interests, forfeiture and investor recovery","description":"Participants discuss forfeitable interests and recovering invested money.","message_ids":["q49515f2eb0fb42594994","q2efbf208da00bbe8af63","q1cfd56968103e4360da5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q49515f2eb0fb42594994","summary_en":"reb*** argues that the funds were not Guo’s forfeitable interests and at most belonged to other actors."},{"message_id":"q2efbf208da00bbe8af63","summary_en":"hel*** says their goal is to recover the money they invested."},{"message_id":"q1cfd56968103e4360da5","summary_en":"kir*** contends that Section 853 disputes must be resolved before post-sentencing forfeiture."}]},{"title":"Bankruptcy settlement motives, objections and possible effects","description":"joh*** and kir*** discuss objections to the settlement and what it might 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associated with 1:23-cr-00118-AT, as seeking clarification of treatment compared with 25-3046 and the scope of Dkt. 31."}]},{"title":"Private prosecution, motions to vacate and retrial prospects","description":"kir*** argues about the purpose of private prosecution and the implications of Cronic.","message_ids":["q296f404d19dcc7045c7c","qae50079949e7de9f1b60","q3a7f6074c6ad4c013abf"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q296f404d19dcc7045c7c","summary_en":"kir*** questions the value of private prosecution if it does not overturn the case."},{"message_id":"qae50079949e7de9f1b60","summary_en":"kir*** argues that private prosecution should seek to overturn the case rather than recover money."},{"message_id":"q3a7f6074c6ad4c013abf","summary_en":"kir*** contends that establishing a Cronic claim would overturn the entire case."}]},{"title":"Responsibility, organization and internal relationships","description":"Participants recall their experiences and dispute responsibility for the alliance’s 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cases."},{"message_id":"qd018965005ff69507550","summary_en":"kir*** describes Torres as treating the case as financial and not primarily considering national security or Chinese Communist Party infiltration."},{"message_id":"q0c4225fe1af43a34a426","summary_en":"joh*** says third parties directly requested Torres’s replacement."}]},{"title":"Victim statements, witness credibility and AI interpretation","description":"sar*** shares an AI interpretation of victim statements, while reb*** raises evidentiary concerns.","message_ids":["q5cf7796749f93c48563a","qe968082837b6cc68869a","qabdc383ea0b4ec042613"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5cf7796749f93c48563a","summary_en":"sar*** recounts accessing ECF 477 but not its attachments and shares an AI analysis of ECF 477-1 and 477-3 in 1:23-cr-00118-AT."},{"message_id":"qe968082837b6cc68869a","summary_en":"sar*** continues the AI analysis, including speculative claims about restricted attachments, submitters’ motives and Dkt 32.1 in 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sentencing."}]}],"summary":"讨论者围绕郭文贵案及相关诉讼提出不同看法：农场借贷和和解款是否计入总账、资金流向与涉案金额如何认定，以及庭审证据能否支持有关指挥关系和资金归属的主张，均有争议。投资者询问反对和解、提出第三方请求和追回款项的途径，其他人讨论没收、CVRA上诉与退款程序的关系。上诉方面，有人关注密封记录、陪审团材料和律师是否有效协助，并推测Cronic主张、撤销量刑动议、重审及重新起诉的可能性；也有人质疑二巡对不同第三方动议的处理。参与者还争论郭及联盟的责任，猜测内部关系、证人和其他案件的影响，并分享对受害者陈述的AI解读；这些猜测与指控均属讨论者观点。","guide":[{"title":"音频归属、转交与相关人员关系的争执","message_ids":["q421b2250feb09d8c455d","q1f2d90fdba5d29b601d4"]},{"title":"农场借贷、和解款及资金是否计入总账","message_ids":["q0503bccdafac923e0553","q4151f595a16140593c13","qbdba4f695417a8b91dc3"]},{"title":"庭审证据、资金流向与涉案金额的争议","message_ids":["qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","q45003e285fa2a0b55a68","qe10e2392292b937475c4"]},{"title":"第三方权益、没收程序与投资者追偿","message_ids":["q49515f2eb0fb42594994","q2efbf208da00bbe8af63","q1cfd56968103e4360da5"]},{"title":"破产案和解的动机、反对意见及可能影响","message_ids":["qeb7359ef915e772f2c38","qadea248ef1a7491099ec","q27de60f2491b1126e0e1"]},{"title":"上诉材料、律师有效协助与 Cronic 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hah***］ 业绩没完成","edited":true,"reply_to":"q3f215623514f28760ec7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbe0c8654d6e9078543a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f215623514f28760ec7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qae08ad718a2e1011a924","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":603,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T05:39:31.543Z","text":"没有第三梯队，背后主子也不给经费\n光吃饭不干活","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae08ad718a2e1011a924","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q971d59db1acd581875f2","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":604,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T05:41:13.966Z","text":"跑路","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa20ce7cce92e2e47570","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q971d59db1acd581875f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q3aee2ca6f994bcb34b09","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":605,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T05:41:23.869Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] ［用户 may***］ 只能去投奔文悦","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3aee2ca6f994bcb34b09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc347b1b598c6a8342bdf","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":606,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T05:41:48.576Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] ［用户 him***］ 怕是去澳洲找老领导安红","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc347b1b598c6a8342bdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qdc8353734c0d68b05c36","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":607,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-14T07:56:12.813Z","text":"［用户 him***］  对 没关系！是方案那三个检察官硬把这个案子和郭案联系起来 你怎么说 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":"q66ad74fa565e131068ad","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc8353734c0d68b05c36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q82fe281b5f8935cf0135","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":608,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-14T08:00:45.386Z","text":"［用户 sar***］ 我靠 这都被你发现","edited":true,"reply_to":"q925f559fc5e636f7824a","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82fe281b5f8935cf0135","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q3a64a3abb7d5e4268053","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":609,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-14T08:19:11.081Z","text":"小红书上出现这个，这是包子在敲打孟建柱吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q41b57354949cf938ee05","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a64a3abb7d5e4268053","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2d25a3932006e18b63d6","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":610,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-14T08:19:31.273Z","text":"对的 现在习系统性清理电诈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3a64a3abb7d5e4268053","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d25a3932006e18b63d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a64a3abb7d5e4268053","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q1f1dd6d2314e0111a17e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":611,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T09:41:29.953Z","text":"［用户 hah***］肿么办\n早提前告诉你剧情发展了，对吧","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2d25a3932006e18b63d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f1dd6d2314e0111a17e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d25a3932006e18b63d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q845f867f81810dbbf208","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":612,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-14T09:54:00.772Z","text":"A换新领导了？\n\nhttps://x.com/ddivul8m3g82864/status/2110211562418151921?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q845f867f81810dbbf208","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q20e1e4381b8991487ab6","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":613,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-10-14T09:54:10.198Z","text":"人家选择了推翻郭案的退赔回本，不是853那点残羹剩饭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb64aa3efb56f3d55751d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20e1e4381b8991487ab6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q6dc669b7041e1548367c","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":614,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-14T10:00:03.475Z","text":"这个id后面是专业写手，专门忽悠所谓有独立思考能力的韭菜。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q845f867f81810dbbf208","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dc669b7041e1548367c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q845f867f81810dbbf208","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q774fc6f3f3c81c7cba58","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":615,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T10:13:40.161Z","text":"估计看屁酱第三梯队无望，要投诚🤣 🤣 🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q845f867f81810dbbf208","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q774fc6f3f3c81c7cba58","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q845f867f81810dbbf208","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q30bef813d41aa8bf9e0b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":616,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-14T10:21:31.106Z","text":"都是翻脸比翻书快","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30bef813d41aa8bf9e0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc10ca6a19f3dd05a37fa","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":617,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T10:28:44.509Z","text":"qmay的推，刚刚把这个置顶，这是要，清理未注册代理人\n那么，长岛青藤300骨干肿么办，有党员身份，政庇绿卡都要玩完儿\nhttps://x.com/q_may_007/status/1992047766592266666?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc10ca6a19f3dd05a37fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q7d3e0d2cc9782046e330","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":618,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T10:32:47.489Z","text":"［用户 kir***］  ［用户 reb***］ 我靠，怕是事情有点大\n郭上诉律师，要开CIPA\n王承认过，她是党员\n万一CIPA里面有，王的spy信息，那么她就是未注册代理人，参考Michel，证词要被cancel","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d3e0d2cc9782046e330","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q1cd42f87fe456b5c8b4f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":619,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T10:45:25.054Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］ 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你收的黑钱都会吐出来","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b03bd8933f60f704a8b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2aa0479690bb5800a1d0","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":633,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-14T19:20:34.772Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 不知道luc有没有对[删节：成员身份]诉讼","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aa0479690bb5800a1d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qaa381e356d7493257b9a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":634,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-10-14T19:43:05.423Z","text":"中共几十年前就模仿克格勃培养＂燕子＂，首先就是去掉羞耻之心，和众多男特务公开做爱。最近被捉的张婉莹就是级别比较高的燕子，有七幢房子。另外一个是孙雯，纽约州长副幕僚长。至于低级燕子，黄冈共特曹文桥十几年前在武汉夜店勾引到三陪女猫骗，看上的是她下流无耻，不用训练带来美国到处碰瓷。\n\n\n\n这是联盟那些男女能够无耻至极的原因","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa381e356d7493257b9a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q3cea9be5af68b462dcda","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":635,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-14T19:45:33.344Z","text":"［用户 lon***］  哈哈 不过 想想就刺激","edited":true,"reply_to":"qaa381e356d7493257b9a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cea9be5af68b462dcda","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa381e356d7493257b9a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q1057a9ef70fd54d22d60","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":636,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-10-14T19:51:17.774Z","text":"他们有做吃大便训练吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa381e356d7493257b9a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1057a9ef70fd54d22d60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa381e356d7493257b9a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q35a942561814c8c603ab","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":637,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-14T19:52:17.400Z","text":"没有羞耻之心的人不可怕 可怕的是像曹操这样的 宁杀一万不肯放过一个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35a942561814c8c603ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q0c3c9c8dedba2e5ee615","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":638,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-14T20:35:52.642Z","text":"哪有四个月还不没收的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c3c9c8dedba2e5ee615","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q207443ea64cffa568ae5","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":639,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-14T20:36:11.540Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 螺丝哥还说过 只要有他在 没有一个人能拿得到钱","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q207443ea64cffa568ae5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8a0ea032829bbda1ae5b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":640,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-14T23:49:17.579Z","text":"sarah继续深挖重大程序细节！要求二巡解释，为什么第二组的第三方提交的vacate量刑被拒绝 但第一组三个月还不动！产生这样不同处理的法律依据是什么！ [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa14b33e2ef96ae2e5f86","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a0ea032829bbda1ae5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q035f4b79d6dc05ca3fb5","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":641,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-14T23:50:31.043Z","text":"这份已在二巡成功登记录入的正式文书（Docket Entry 32.1）结构严谨、逻辑清晰。以下为您整理的该动议的核心概要：\n《关于串联审理中功能相同动议处置不一致的澄清动议》概要\n1. 案件基本信息与法律依据\n * 案号：第二巡回上诉法院案号 No. 26-1476（关联南区联邦法院案号 1:23-cr-00118-AT，即郭文贵案）。\n * 法律依据：依据《联邦上诉法院诉讼规则》第 27 条（FRAP 27）及法院确保自身程序一致性的固有权力（Inherent Authority）提出。\n * 核心定位：本动议并非对 2026 年 10 月 8 日裁决（Dkt. 31）的重新审议（Reconsideration），而是基于一个新发现的事实前提——即同一底层刑事案件派生出的两组串联审理（Tandem Proceedings），在面对功能完全相同的动议时，遭到了截然不同的程序处理。\n2. 两组串联审理的“程序待遇”对比\n * 第一组（Group One / 以 Jason Zen 25-3046 为首）：\n   * 包括 Tony、Doe、[删节：成员身份]、Carolyn Sun 等多位第三方 Pro Se 申诉人。\n   * 诸如紧急撤销判决、暂缓执行及重组法官等动议自 2026 年 6 月底至 7 月初提交以来，已悬置超过 3 至 3.5 个月，至今无任何一项遭到法院驳回或裁决。\n * 第二组（Group Two / 申诉人 Sarah 所在的 26-1476 组）：\n   * 包括 Sarah、Yang、Anna、Chen 等人提交的同类解除/撤销判决及重组法官动议。\n   * 法院在 2026 年 9 月 25 日的裁决中，仅凭单句独断的结论（“Finally, the reassignment motions and motions to vacate... are DENIED”）直接予以驳回，且未引述任何法律标准或分析框架；随后 Sarah 申请澄清时，法院于 10 月 8 日再次拒绝说明法律依据。\n3. 核心诉求（Narrow Relief Requested）\n申诉人 Sarah 展现了高度克制的诉讼策略，未请求法院直接裁决实体胜负，而是请求二巡法庭就以下两点提供程序澄清：\n * 程序差异的合理性：两组串联审理中表现出的不同程序处理结果，是否源于其诉讼立足点（Procedural Posture）或其他案情特定因素的实质性差异？\n * 裁决范围的界定：2026 年 9 月 25 日的命令是否仅意在解决第二组案件的请求，而并不决定第一组案件中单独提交的同类动议之程序状态？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q035f4b79d6dc05ca3fb5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q9d3b13a84198dd9a8b61","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":642,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T00:08:43.678Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 又不是我写的 我吹什么牛逼？你有本事自己去看文件","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd6cb1d82daed3cf1c5d8","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d3b13a84198dd9a8b61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd4a3b2a1b7c14e5fe99c","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":643,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T00:17:33.658Z","text":"［用户 sar***］  我低估了二巡最新order 那个order太要命！！！！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4a3b2a1b7c14e5fe99c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q65e82c662f619b189ec0","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":644,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T00:21:52.839Z","text":"［用户 sar***］ 为什么二巡律师指派和二巡拒绝第三方的强制令，动议 是同一天？ 因为之前我们讨论过，因为二巡要避免cronic。 如果二巡在被告律师没有上任的情况下就拒绝，那么二巡自己就犯了cronic错误，现在证明二巡如此老辣，避免了这个坑。那么问题来了，二巡为什么要避免这个坑？如果第三方的vacate 量刑，reassignment dismiss 没有和被告有关任何实质性内容，二巡根本不用考虑cronic，不用在同一天出强制令order和指派律师，如果第三方打的东西是垃圾，你拒绝，就算被告律师没上任，也不可能有cronic风险！而二巡选择 同一天指派律师和对第三方出order 就说明第三方打到了要害！二巡如果不这样干 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已经提醒你了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08b7a42c49b8f00433d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2b472a9b49a29901c1bb","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":723,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-15T00:55:36.617Z","text":"长岛最惨\n青藤qmay屁酱安红，甚至王雪冰，都希望他去顶雷\n当时诉讼maywind，也不知道谁给他出的主意，把他往火坑里推\n这一诉讼，长岛和魏丽红，都要被拉回刑事案，不起诉也废了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b472a9b49a29901c1bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc6ad499cc77306314ec0","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":724,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-15T00:59:14.337Z","text":"青藤是死士\n长岛时代的农场，就是闷钱骨干，有他的账户，就是300骨干共谋\n王案没收，造假填表，也是他，王案受害者陈述，也有他\n随后发meme币，栽给郭，822检方提这个事，但是一查通话记录，这个秒死","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6ad499cc77306314ec0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q12a35cf7a05938758f06","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":725,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-15T01:04:44.069Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 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joh***］ 卧槽？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8218a47d24fa9c6b44ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8052f164fdac549115c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8218a47d24fa9c6b44ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd2f9a45c4b6df966af95","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":736,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T06:12:36.074Z","text":"上次说啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2f9a45c4b6df966af95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qbab0d25d8c6ee396a5fe","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":737,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-15T06:41:32.847Z","text":"你还可以给二巡交动议？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa14b33e2ef96ae2e5f86","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbab0d25d8c6ee396a5fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd0c95ccaa9d58392ef02","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":738,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-15T06:47:49.937Z","text":"qmay的级别，怕是高于青藤长岛甚至安红\n屁酱敢硬刚qmay，食💩 了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0c95ccaa9d58392ef02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q790ff86bdb8f39ddf68b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":739,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-15T07:52:17.808Z","text":"但这必须得上诉律师说？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ba885df2ed927afe24a","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q790ff86bdb8f39ddf68b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q0f794f5fe7641b9429e3","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":740,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T07:58:02.382Z","text":"庭审 量刑律师cronic 必须上诉律师说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q790ff86bdb8f39ddf68b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f794f5fe7641b9429e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q790ff86bdb8f39ddf68b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q6438fd1253f4c6b464ff","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":741,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-15T13:15:03.104Z","text":"法官下 order 之后的 14 天应该可以有相关的咨询性的动议。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbab0d25d8c6ee396a5fe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6438fd1253f4c6b464ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbab0d25d8c6ee396a5fe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q9c8203f6d60f20e68827","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":742,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-15T13:22:40.965Z","text":"Q[屏蔽词]妄图掀起网暴那个女记者， 就是她背后的共产党要把新中国联邦往邪教上引。 现在她宣誓盖特主权，肯定是背后的金主出钱给盖特了。\n\n为什么要往邪教上引？ 配合检方打击郭， 因为检方多次提到邪教， 在庭审中、法庭文件中，在6/29量刑 都提到了邪教 - 如果不是邪教，检方解释不了为什么投资人都说不是郭的受害人","edited":true,"reply_to":"q433eb2b04d038d270421","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c8203f6d60f20e68827","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qfd058dc809722cc45a85","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":743,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-15T13:23:44.666Z","text":"所以，[删节：成员身份]在离开前，故意在这里骂 ［用户 him***］ [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q25867ff31e6346bb1393","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd058dc809722cc45a85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qf53d7eb4b8c01914caf9","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":744,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T13:24:09.364Z","text":"哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd058dc809722cc45a85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf53d7eb4b8c01914caf9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd058dc809722cc45a85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q14ff3e4f290bcffd2a0c","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":745,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-15T13:28:43.007Z","text":"嘴上说不承认是受害者，但是被联盟假表，骗成受害者\n6000人还请了一个盖尔，去表演否认受害者\n这不是一群神经病，是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c8203f6d60f20e68827","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14ff3e4f290bcffd2a0c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c8203f6d60f20e68827","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qa202da4c0103637f6951","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":746,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T13:29:20.686Z","text":"对 邪教 就是为了破不是受害者的局","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c8203f6d60f20e68827","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa202da4c0103637f6951","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c8203f6d60f20e68827","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q44960397956013287aa6","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":747,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-15T13:36:13.050Z","text":"所以这帮人一直换马甲\n喜国不能倒 邪教一直在骗\n这就是给检方的抓手","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa202da4c0103637f6951","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44960397956013287aa6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa202da4c0103637f6951","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q57d68ce808ce6f19b00f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":748,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-15T13:38:17.195Z","text":"所以推特上有这么多狗把郭神化，就是配合检方把郭当邪教主，用 RICO 搞郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa202da4c0103637f6951","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57d68ce808ce6f19b00f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa202da4c0103637f6951","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q5b0cf3b1031fbbb33bdf","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":749,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-15T13:40:04.178Z","text":"捧的越高，牢坐的越稳","edited":false,"reply_to":"q57d68ce808ce6f19b00f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b0cf3b1031fbbb33bdf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57d68ce808ce6f19b00f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q340ef3ae79a27af1bdb3","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":750,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-15T13:47:59.811Z","text":"Q最近的又主又神又佛的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q57d68ce808ce6f19b00f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q340ef3ae79a27af1bdb3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57d68ce808ce6f19b00f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q0a6af772522336ba710d","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":751,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-15T13:48:36.699Z","text":"9指妖也句句不离神啊主的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a6af772522336ba710d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q84cc2497315666fe55f4","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":752,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-15T13:51:06.299Z","text":"不能那么说。共产党这个局， 不是谁都一开始就懂的。我原来也一直相信他们解读法庭文件/什么都好，直到一次次被打脸","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14ff3e4f290bcffd2a0c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84cc2497315666fe55f4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14ff3e4f290bcffd2a0c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q9ad9afd8df1fec1d25ee","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":753,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-15T13:52:14.523Z","text":"老郭给这些露脸的坏人背书背的太厉害了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ad9afd8df1fec1d25ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q28262fb98ce3ccb4b51b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":754,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-15T13:53:46.329Z","text":"天真的人/比如我 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Ava 又活了，除非她己被无害处理。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc3923589f1f9cc70f861","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6f01d8642330434a814","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3923589f1f9cc70f861","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd3cfed033c3d4f805317","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":774,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T18:07:09.169Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 联盟说了不算 瑞恩说了算","edited":true,"reply_to":"q356814abf3954151969e","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3cfed033c3d4f805317","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2b0137d72e0daad33780","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":775,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T18:07:37.455Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 郭什么时候出来瑞恩说了算","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2acbfe001b3ee7a87b70","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b0137d72e0daad33780","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb56acf3217e0badcb01f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":776,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T18:10:26.808Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 你确定？你说这话不怕再被打脸？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb131f5d1a6fba62a26b1","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb56acf3217e0badcb01f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc5a6af1477da575458fb","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":777,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T18:10:34.719Z","text":"［用户 him***］  你确定？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q97684a82043339e43b1c","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5a6af1477da575458fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qec30e6079e67b07fc394","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":778,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T18:14:11.657Z","text":"［用户 him***］  你自己听听吧 螺丝哥想干什么","edited":true,"reply_to":"qcd1854827fb77f204a3f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec30e6079e67b07fc394","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q987285f3b96a90b572b1","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":779,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T18:15:02.433Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 我警告过你 你会被打脸打的很惨 你自己不听","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q987285f3b96a90b572b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8e9455c1ed52126dc581","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":780,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T19:07:22.341Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 听听这个","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0d4d103da32e379e9cd2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e9455c1ed52126dc581","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q5209620677d5d995e5c9","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":781,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T19:08:39.173Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 你再演吧 我语音多的是 我他妈就是懒得找","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5209620677d5d995e5c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q9774349e936bb580b4d6","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":782,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T19:09:12.833Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 谁都不能代表螺丝哥 只有螺丝哥自己说的话能代表 尤其是司法文件","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0d4d103da32e379e9cd2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9774349e936bb580b4d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe59fa3ee6d0b8a32a5b9","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":783,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-10-15T19:37:03.578Z","text":"黄奇帆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a974e796c1c9ff92977","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe59fa3ee6d0b8a32a5b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a974e796c1c9ff92977","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8125bbce17bb4b553e8f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":784,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-15T22:22:40.239Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/2110858891093504163?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8125bbce17bb4b553e8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb07422bdefcbda03f765","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":785,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T00:07:33.518Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 安小东接任务了","edited":true,"reply_to":"qeb2079876d6f22fac20f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb07422bdefcbda03f765","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc7d48beeb7dfcd127270","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":786,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T00:10:19.517Z","text":"领导原话：\n1 螺丝哥要灭共，不是要钱\n2 安小东代表螺丝哥\n3 自诉群，除了螺丝哥要灭共，其他人都是捣乱\n4 新加入的要自诉，一定要相信螺丝哥，相信安小东，不要被其他人带偏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7d48beeb7dfcd127270","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q986c48182296b765ae6d","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":787,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T00:11:44.060Z","text":"安小东明显发言风格都变了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb07422bdefcbda03f765","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q986c48182296b765ae6d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb07422bdefcbda03f765","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qefe203f36500749d536e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":788,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T00:12:05.189Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 姜虾头之前谈螺丝哥，就是这个目的，先预热\n屁酱的第三梯队，需要这个自诉群当筹码\n进来的韭菜，都被引流去安小东的853，和青藤其实是一致的\n而且都拼命护着喜交所 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GTV回投\n青藤闷律师费，TD币和什么感恩基金\n第三梯队是盖特币开头\n能割多少，各凭本事","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefe203f36500749d536e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qcb0646e662e4774cc0ed","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":789,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T00:42:40.549Z","text":"屁酱就是猪队友，到处给人挖坑\n王雪冰也不干净\nA先生还在发推给他洗地，估计是收钱了\n谁给钱，他帮谁说话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb0646e662e4774cc0ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q6421548ce448ef635050","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":790,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T00:45:25.209Z","text":"这不就是，都闷钱了嘛，都去当污点证人\n检方不提闷钱的事，也不起诉，这就是默契\n不然这闷的钱，到了庭审，就影响案子的总涉案金额，个人金钱判决\n闷钱的人，就没有资格签协议，做证人，就没法rico到郭，这些人弄的钱，都要独立成子案\n那样检方，也不能没收整个G系列\n［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6421548ce448ef635050","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q3e74f3105e5877e0719b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":791,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-16T01:44:23.655Z","text":"https://x.com/sarahzh67248600/status/2110897650849706175?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e74f3105e5877e0719b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2c37381772542619a7bb","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":792,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-10-16T01:46:30.497Z","text":"检方也不提他们闷钱的事，钱会被他们成功闷了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c37381772542619a7bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qabdc383ea0b4ec042613","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":793,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-16T02:03:59.167Z","text":"新证据发现，证人可信度披露违规，损失计算和量刑不可靠。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6421548ce448ef635050","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabdc383ea0b4ec042613","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6421548ce448ef635050","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8f0ded3707e5726f583f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":794,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-16T02:04:54.211Z","text":"没人展开司法行动，相信党，相信政府，那些[屏蔽词]就会成功。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2c37381772542619a7bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f0ded3707e5726f583f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c37381772542619a7bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q99229c0eeccdd3bd5b13","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":795,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-10-16T02:07:13.563Z","text":"皮匠教学生的时候学生直接说她都不懂，乱教","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0c0b8a2741d158cd6853","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99229c0eeccdd3bd5b13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qfc399d2fe90bd382438e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":796,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-10-16T02:08:28.153Z","text":"草根那孙子至少600万没转出来？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcb0646e662e4774cc0ed","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc399d2fe90bd382438e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb0646e662e4774cc0ed","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb62c91f0c7716a1f7080","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":797,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-16T02:16:43.112Z","text":"跟机器人沟通了一下，总算明白了cronic 的本质就是律师不当。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb62c91f0c7716a1f7080","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qed8f7459e569d6e4b967","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":798,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T02:17:06.277Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 是不是屁酱焖的钱很少 所以她敢这么搞？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q6421548ce448ef635050","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed8f7459e569d6e4b967","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6421548ce448ef635050","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8cf8e4c1e3447e1b8e90","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":799,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-16T02:18:06.595Z","text":"我：\n但是我在9/25之后穷追不舍、先后递交的二个动议，而且每次递交时都cc 给了辩方律师，这就巧妙地跟新律师打通了沟通渠道，给了他update and 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