{"id":"batch-000163","number":163,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-10-09T20:21:17.501Z","date_end":"2026-10-18T02:57:02.212Z","total_messages":1002,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 163 (Oct 9, 2026 – Oct 18, 2026), 1,002 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants dispute whether farm loans and settlement payments were included in the accounting, how funds moved, and whether trial evidence supports claims about control and ownership. They discuss investor recovery, forfeiture and appeals, including lawyer effectiveness and possible retrial. One participant challenges differing treatment of third-party motions in No. 26-1476 and 25-3046, associated with 1:23-cr-00118-AT. Others debate responsibility and share speculative AI interpretations of victim statements in ECF 477 and its attachments.","guide_en":[{"title":"Dispute over audio possession and handover","description":"kir*** relays him***’s claims about an audio recording and a deadline.","message_ids":["q421b2250feb09d8c455d","q1f2d90fdba5d29b601d4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q421b2250feb09d8c455d","summary_en":"kir*** relays him***’s claim that the recording is with someone on another team and not with the addressee."},{"message_id":"q1f2d90fdba5d29b601d4","summary_en":"kir*** relays him*** giving the addressee two days."}]},{"title":"Farm loans, settlement payments and accounting","description":"joh*** disputes how farm loans and settlement funds were accounted for.","message_ids":["q0503bccdafac923e0553","q4151f595a16140593c13","qbdba4f695417a8b91dc3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0503bccdafac923e0553","summary_en":"joh*** argues that farm loans and a settlement payment do not reconcile with the amounts discussed at trial."},{"message_id":"q4151f595a16140593c13","summary_en":"joh*** contends that Maywind’s settlement shows it operated independently of MOS LLC."},{"message_id":"qbdba4f695417a8b91dc3","summary_en":"joh*** argues that at least $4.55 million in farm loans was omitted from the $110 million total."}]},{"title":"Trial evidence, fund flows and disputed amounts","description":"reb*** and joh*** challenge interpretations of the evidence and financial amounts.","message_ids":["qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","q45003e285fa2a0b55a68","qe10e2392292b937475c4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","summary_en":"reb*** contends that testimony attributed others’ alleged misuse of farm investments to Guo’s fraudulent intent."},{"message_id":"q45003e285fa2a0b55a68","summary_en":"joh*** argues that funds allegedly withheld by Long Island and Zhang cannot be linked to Guo, undermining the overall G-series amount."},{"message_id":"qe10e2392292b937475c4","summary_en":"joh*** contends that appellate evidence concerning Zhang and Fair Fund refunds warrants prosecutors bringing him back."}]},{"title":"Third-party interests, forfeiture and investor recovery","description":"Participants discuss forfeitable interests and recovering invested money.","message_ids":["q49515f2eb0fb42594994","q2efbf208da00bbe8af63","q1cfd56968103e4360da5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q49515f2eb0fb42594994","summary_en":"reb*** argues that the funds were not Guo’s forfeitable interests and at most belonged to other actors."},{"message_id":"q2efbf208da00bbe8af63","summary_en":"hel*** says their goal is to recover the money they invested."},{"message_id":"q1cfd56968103e4360da5","summary_en":"kir*** contends that Section 853 disputes must be resolved before post-sentencing forfeiture."}]},{"title":"Bankruptcy settlement motives, objections and possible effects","description":"joh*** and kir*** discuss objections to the settlement and what it might resolve.","message_ids":["qeb7359ef915e772f2c38","qadea248ef1a7491099ec","q27de60f2491b1126e0e1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qeb7359ef915e772f2c38","summary_en":"joh*** describes objections from HEX users and Guo family companies, and speculates about the parties’ motives and court delay."},{"message_id":"qadea248ef1a7491099ec","summary_en":"kir*** asks whether the settlement might leave the nature of the funds unresolved."},{"message_id":"q27de60f2491b1126e0e1","summary_en":"joh*** argues that the settlement could help the Southern District address an earlier problem involving Mahwah."}]},{"title":"Appeal materials, effective assistance and a Cronic claim","description":"kir*** discusses jury materials, possible legal strategy and third-party claims.","message_ids":["q9af695ddce1ab24ada75","q457c306e82c3234e0b11","qe1efd77c9cc13850c43a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9af695ddce1ab24ada75","summary_en":"kir*** says Guo’s appellate lawyer found pages missing from the jury screening materials."},{"message_id":"q457c306e82c3234e0b11","summary_en":"kir*** speculates that counsel may pursue Cronic and ineffective-assistance claims."},{"message_id":"qe1efd77c9cc13850c43a","summary_en":"kir*** contends that avoiding the issue would acknowledge that third parties had reached the merits."}]},{"title":"Second Circuit third-party motions and clarification request","description":"Participants question the handling of third-party motions and describe a clarification request.","message_ids":["qa200870e964dc65e13a5","q8a0ea032829bbda1ae5b","q035f4b79d6dc05ca3fb5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa200870e964dc65e13a5","summary_en":"kir*** relays a chatbot’s claim that the Second Circuit created a tandem hearing for third parties in the case."},{"message_id":"q8a0ea032829bbda1ae5b","summary_en":"kir*** says Sarah seeks an explanation for different treatment of two groups’ motions."},{"message_id":"q035f4b79d6dc05ca3fb5","summary_en":"sar*** describes Docket Entry 32.1 in No. 26-1476, associated with 1:23-cr-00118-AT, as seeking clarification of treatment compared with 25-3046 and the scope of Dkt. 31."}]},{"title":"Private prosecution, motions to vacate and retrial prospects","description":"kir*** argues about the purpose of private prosecution and the implications of Cronic.","message_ids":["q296f404d19dcc7045c7c","qae50079949e7de9f1b60","q3a7f6074c6ad4c013abf"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q296f404d19dcc7045c7c","summary_en":"kir*** questions the value of private prosecution if it does not overturn the case."},{"message_id":"qae50079949e7de9f1b60","summary_en":"kir*** argues that private prosecution should seek to overturn the case rather than recover money."},{"message_id":"q3a7f6074c6ad4c013abf","summary_en":"kir*** contends that establishing a Cronic claim would overturn the entire case."}]},{"title":"Responsibility, organization and internal relationships","description":"Participants recall their experiences and dispute responsibility for the alliance’s activities.","message_ids":["q09bfd4b063f0225804dc","qaabae1b62e75337498b2","qd1de2184951101a4433a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q09bfd4b063f0225804dc","summary_en":"sar*** recalls being persuaded by Guo and the alliance’s question-and-answer sessions."},{"message_id":"qaabae1b62e75337498b2","summary_en":"hel*** blames Guo for bringing in people who harmed others."},{"message_id":"qd1de2184951101a4433a","summary_en":"kir*** argues that the alliance should dissolve if its continued operation only supports the prosecution’s narrative about victims."}]},{"title":"Other cases, the judge’s statements and possible connections","description":"kir*** and joh*** discuss alleged connections and the judge’s role.","message_ids":["qb3d65625c2d90c1cb65f","qd018965005ff69507550","q0c4225fe1af43a34a426"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qb3d65625c2d90c1cb65f","summary_en":"kir*** contends that three prosecutors linked unrelated matters when referring to Judge Torres’s prior cases."},{"message_id":"qd018965005ff69507550","summary_en":"kir*** describes Torres as treating the case as financial and not primarily considering national security or Chinese Communist Party infiltration."},{"message_id":"q0c4225fe1af43a34a426","summary_en":"joh*** says third parties directly requested Torres’s replacement."}]},{"title":"Victim statements, witness credibility and AI interpretation","description":"sar*** shares an AI interpretation of victim statements, while reb*** raises evidentiary concerns.","message_ids":["q5cf7796749f93c48563a","qe968082837b6cc68869a","qabdc383ea0b4ec042613"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5cf7796749f93c48563a","summary_en":"sar*** recounts accessing ECF 477 but not its attachments and shares an AI analysis of ECF 477-1 and 477-3 in 1:23-cr-00118-AT."},{"message_id":"qe968082837b6cc68869a","summary_en":"sar*** continues the AI analysis, including speculative claims about restricted attachments, submitters’ motives and Dkt 32.1 in 26-1476."},{"message_id":"qabdc383ea0b4ec042613","summary_en":"reb*** alleges new evidence, witness-credibility disclosure violations and unreliable loss calculations and sentencing."}]}],"summary":"讨论者围绕郭文贵案及相关诉讼提出不同看法：农场借贷和和解款是否计入总账、资金流向与涉案金额如何认定，以及庭审证据能否支持有关指挥关系和资金归属的主张，均有争议。投资者询问反对和解、提出第三方请求和追回款项的途径，其他人讨论没收、CVRA上诉与退款程序的关系。上诉方面，有人关注密封记录、陪审团材料和律师是否有效协助，并推测Cronic主张、撤销量刑动议、重审及重新起诉的可能性；也有人质疑二巡对不同第三方动议的处理。参与者还争论郭及联盟的责任，猜测内部关系、证人和其他案件的影响，并分享对受害者陈述的AI解读；这些猜测与指控均属讨论者观点。","guide":[{"title":"音频归属、转交与相关人员关系的争执","message_ids":["q421b2250feb09d8c455d","q1f2d90fdba5d29b601d4"]},{"title":"农场借贷、和解款及资金是否计入总账","message_ids":["q0503bccdafac923e0553","q4151f595a16140593c13","qbdba4f695417a8b91dc3"]},{"title":"庭审证据、资金流向与涉案金额的争议","message_ids":["qc7347776a5c07b926ddd","q45003e285fa2a0b55a68","qe10e2392292b937475c4"]},{"title":"第三方权益、没收程序与投资者追偿","message_ids":["q49515f2eb0fb42594994","q2efbf208da00bbe8af63","q1cfd56968103e4360da5"]},{"title":"破产案和解的动机、反对意见及可能影响","message_ids":["qeb7359ef915e772f2c38","qadea248ef1a7491099ec","q27de60f2491b1126e0e1"]},{"title":"上诉材料、律师有效协助与 Cronic 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roy***］ 现在已经不可能\n二巡有CVRA针对韩国哈恩的，投资证据，哈恩推上的草根代表联盟拿走现金的截图\n检方不可能再装瞎，这个影响涉案金额，金钱判决","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8f0ded3707e5726f583f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52305325193d9269b876","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f0ded3707e5726f583f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb57f28880cfeeed953cc","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":802,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T02:49:15.174Z","text":"只会多不会少\n对敲的，甚至没拿到投资合同的，都没法算","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc399d2fe90bd382438e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb57f28880cfeeed953cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc399d2fe90bd382438e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2d8813f8c9aceab9ebbf","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":803,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T02:49:29.426Z","text":"屁酱的，是另外一回事\n2022那会儿，她的法国农场已经被郭要求取消，她没机会闷更多，这是眼红那几个","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed8f7459e569d6e4b967","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d8813f8c9aceab9ebbf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed8f7459e569d6e4b967","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q02924ead1a105aff9eac","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":804,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T02:54:12.309Z","text":"哈哈 屁酱的底气 来源于： 我闷钱少 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d8813f8c9aceab9ebbf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02924ead1a105aff9eac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d8813f8c9aceab9ebbf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe1bf5a76e91360b06e46","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":805,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T02:58:07.561Z","text":"［用户 lon***］ 老王玩完儿\n难怪qmay要投诚\nhttps://x.com/threerights1/status/2110703544151994378?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1bf5a76e91360b06e46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q442794e06a0b45764d8f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":806,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T02:59:04.290Z","text":"屁酱是另外一个事\n更狗血","edited":false,"reply_to":"q02924ead1a105aff9eac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q442794e06a0b45764d8f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02924ead1a105aff9eac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2236e16fc27a53e0fab1","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":807,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-16T02:59:20.398Z","text":"如果就靠已经提交的几个，然后搭顺风车，结果就是提交的那部分被吐出来，没上法庭的，法官，政府，不会帮你争取。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q52305325193d9269b876","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2236e16fc27a53e0fab1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52305325193d9269b876","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q81fb33c371b8d4b6b81b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":808,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T03:00:32.347Z","text":"哈哈 怎么说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q442794e06a0b45764d8f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81fb33c371b8d4b6b81b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q442794e06a0b45764d8f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2b1ec12ab29a514cfbea","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":809,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T03:00:35.142Z","text":"不止吐出来那么简单\n闷钱但是不说，这个影响到主案了\n共谋的不起诉协议，也要有影响","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2236e16fc27a53e0fab1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b1ec12ab29a514cfbea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2236e16fc27a53e0fab1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe88c8aa3755d57060b25","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":810,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T03:01:14.041Z","text":"屁酱农场，2020就被冻结过\n之后貌似很快就被取消了\n也就是说，屁酱和虾头，都不干净，闷钱的性质也差不多，利益共同体\nhttps://x.com/laocong26981282/status/1826768216619975138?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":"q81fb33c371b8d4b6b81b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe88c8aa3755d57060b25","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81fb33c371b8d4b6b81b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qcf101579095647d472b9","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":811,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T03:10:06.671Z","text":"我闷钱少 所以我骄傲 h h h","edited":false,"reply_to":"q091278fa7755b05e48f4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf101579095647d472b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q3e2d9692790028f6cf3e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":812,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T03:14:39.229Z","text":"还有就是酸，因为闷早了，农场被取消，没了闷钱资格","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e2d9692790028f6cf3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q65422ab3f8f2ecfcb65a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":813,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T03:20:11.761Z","text":"https://x.com/laocong26981282/status/1937009200565215263?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65422ab3f8f2ecfcb65a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q526496a7d68d88a9b88a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":814,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T03:25:35.081Z","text":"几帮人，其实就是一台戏\n换来换去，就那么一些套路\n表面骂的欢，私下商量怎么分钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q526496a7d68d88a9b88a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd553193a42019803064b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":815,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-16T03:36:07.003Z","text":"郭无罪后，后面的钱的事情，一样是硬仗。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b1ec12ab29a514cfbea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd553193a42019803064b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b1ec12ab29a514cfbea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc46062f1f9db430eab37","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":816,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-16T03:37:12.746Z","text":"自己不去争取，钱可能烂在那里也不会给你。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc46062f1f9db430eab37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q77eec193c258745a36a4","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":817,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T03:38:58.727Z","text":"对的，300骨干闷到钱，落袋为安，巴不得案子一直拖\n检方和二巡，目前策略也是拖\n即使案子重审，300骨干被弄死，检方还会想打这14亿的主意","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd553193a42019803064b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77eec193c258745a36a4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd553193a42019803064b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q88d1993a21d902524582","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":818,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T04:00:41.643Z","text":"300农场主骨干的盈利模式\n法治基金拿工资+喜币大额出金套现+闷农场投资款+举报投资人信息给国宝换钱+拿背后主子奖金\n配合检方，法庭集体做伪证，把案子做成rico案，把郭送进去\n交换是检方不提闷钱的事，并给不起诉协议，涵盖个人账户\n案子如果进展的顺利，300骨干登记了破产案债权人，还能等没收后分14亿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88d1993a21d902524582","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q84e1d874e7811b65676a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":819,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T04:07:52.253Z","text":"所以，也能理解[删节：成员身份] 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然后皇上派忠诚平反","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a489b90a782647c0906","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qfeaf6aefc27eb477363a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":828,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T05:44:47.296Z","text":"最后发现忠臣又有问题 再用别人平反","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfeaf6aefc27eb477363a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q342b842e65f71716b9e9","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":829,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T05:45:04.368Z","text":"这中间 死的是韭菜 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\n这似乎是个盈利模式啊\n农场主闷钱，联盟那边不起诉\n先是2020年的虾头皮匠这样干，结果只是被取消农场主\n然后是2023年哈恩的韩国几个农场投资，被草根和天池cosmos集体拿走","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51a4d531f3110d1f1db3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb2e7bb65093a0120a799","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":831,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-16T05:47:46.758Z","text":"就是专门割等管家作主的韭菜。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51a4d531f3110d1f1db3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2e7bb65093a0120a799","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51a4d531f3110d1f1db3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q4189ed9beec679bcf4fb","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":832,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T05:48:03.750Z","text":"但现在韭菜还有吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51a4d531f3110d1f1db3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4189ed9beec679bcf4fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51a4d531f3110d1f1db3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q0a1e3abb18cc34fe729e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":833,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T05:49:24.606Z","text":"［用户 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所以你在骂你自己","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1f8509f6ec260e118935","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6c77786b1c5fc69d3e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q089eb9d8f2e1c731df24","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":835,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T05:53:22.039Z","text":"哈恩表演替草根维稳，类似长岛替魏维稳\n哈恩天天喊着要联盟起诉天池农场，但是她的推文说过，青联盟和韩国司法沟通的结果是，和解\n不出意外，哈恩肯定拿了草根的好处费","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q089eb9d8f2e1c731df24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qab6e49638f78e08b61c0","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":836,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T05:54:46.150Z","text":"就是一群人表演民主 表演为战友服务 其实是既得利益群体 用表演维持一个割韭菜的局","edited":false,"reply_to":"q089eb9d8f2e1c731df24","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab6e49638f78e08b61c0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q089eb9d8f2e1c731df24","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe5aebf0d16548fbf69d6","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":837,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T05:56:59.022Z","text":"意思是，青藤联盟找托，帮忙立一个民事诉讼，然后联盟选和天池农场主和解，结案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5aebf0d16548fbf69d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd6c04be8bdeea047c4f7","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":838,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T05:58:47.112Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 这是他们平帐方式","edited":true,"reply_to":"qe5aebf0d16548fbf69d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6c04be8bdeea047c4f7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5aebf0d16548fbf69d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q06ce1c63ba3b0d95aefd","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":839,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T05:59:07.234Z","text":"这是复制长岛诉讼魏丽红，的模式\n很可能日本草根那边，也已经有联盟的民事起诉，然后秘密结案了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd6c04be8bdeea047c4f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06ce1c63ba3b0d95aefd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6c04be8bdeea047c4f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe2d46126a1bfca0d80b7","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":840,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T05:59:13.898Z","text":"https://x.com/xiaobai77/status/2110776712040755402?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2d46126a1bfca0d80b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q86ab1db28776092c3f75","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":841,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T05:59:23.811Z","text":"他们口风变了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe2d46126a1bfca0d80b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86ab1db28776092c3f75","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2d46126a1bfca0d80b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q4df0117b4a9f6c42dc1b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":842,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T06:01:00.434Z","text":"不再爱郭，要砸了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86ab1db28776092c3f75","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4df0117b4a9f6c42dc1b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86ab1db28776092c3f75","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q1355cf726a6412d23f3e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":843,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:03:30.369Z","text":"不是 这个本来就是砸郭的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4df0117b4a9f6c42dc1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1355cf726a6412d23f3e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4df0117b4a9f6c42dc1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q3cd11f1af8f98d3a004c","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":844,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:03:35.807Z","text":"砸郭的口风变了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cd11f1af8f98d3a004c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q34e8999271078dfaf9b1","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":845,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:03:59.828Z","text":"以前他们针对说什么第三方把案件打崩 基本上都是嘲笑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34e8999271078dfaf9b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc1c226e8fabe389ba6ab","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":846,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:04:04.132Z","text":"现在已经不嘲笑了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c226e8fabe389ba6ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q85ab2b1b34ff43126875","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":847,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T06:08:15.378Z","text":"但现在问题是，闷的钱，怕是要出事\n\n二巡有CVRA的证据\n韩国哈恩那里的，草根闷\nmaywind那块，长岛闷\nGTV公平基金退款，张永兵闷\n\n这些都对案子涉案金额，个人金钱判决，是冲击，检方不能继续装瞎\n但怎么解决，两难\n\n不理会，不能开启最终没收\n要回应，选择路径也很窄：\n1 要么重算涉案金额，那就涉及了对敲黄牛，农场主全部要被拉回来说清楚\n2 要么单独起诉，立子案，那就是承认未起诉共谋，作证时没有提供这些信息，那么之前的证词虚假，检方的rico叙事链就断了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06ce1c63ba3b0d95aefd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85ab2b1b34ff43126875","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06ce1c63ba3b0d95aefd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q86e7cdfe51f41ca80190","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":848,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:17:31.750Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q85ab2b1b34ff43126875","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86e7cdfe51f41ca80190","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85ab2b1b34ff43126875","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qa3273fe4a6fa426ede21","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":849,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T06:17:57.385Z","text":"投诚也没有用了\n这些300骨干，对习来说，没有价值\n至于他们的结局，重点还是看背后主子，怎么安排\n未注册代理人，这帽子太大，没有哪派愿意接这个锅","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3273fe4a6fa426ede21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qf0724598d86e7d5c31cf","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":850,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:55:02.767Z","text":"你的钱拿不回来了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b74c7d26210282627d6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0724598d86e7d5c31cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8f57e9cf09353fcf09a1","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":851,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:55:08.427Z","text":"郭文贵案件已经崩盘了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f57e9cf09353fcf09a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc0a019b341ad69d2e6ef","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":852,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T08:48:25.760Z","text":"A先生开始叛变，骂屁酱\n估计和文悦类似，被屁酱欠薪了\nhttps://x.com/ddivul8m3g82864/status/2110959126876496245?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0a019b341ad69d2e6ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qdb680ff2d53bb0cb46d9","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":853,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T10:35:42.394Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］ \n现在大致明白h为什么之前郭直播说了，韩正听到魏丽红的凤凰农场闷钱，会发火\n魏闷的投资越多，这部分就越不可能算到郭头上\n同时这部分因为和G系列有链接，就会成为隐患，毁掉整个计划\n比如案子现在这个鸟样，就是失败","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb680ff2d53bb0cb46d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q4a97eea1278fe4fdf1c3","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":854,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-16T10:42:03.949Z","text":"就是这么回事。如果它们主动转账给郭家人造成资金混同，面上只有郭拿钱，那就被做实了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb680ff2d53bb0cb46d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a97eea1278fe4fdf1c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb680ff2d53bb0cb46d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb11cbc8ed91af04f916e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":855,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T10:50:58.707Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］ \n难怪虾头2020年后赶快跑路，是怕被主子追责啊，9指跑不了，只好去做污点证人，作证完，更不能像天龙人木兰那样跑路🤣 🤣 🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb11cbc8ed91af04f916e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q906553ec9d3703bfe543","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":856,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T12:34:03.320Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 我靠我靠！！！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q906553ec9d3703bfe543","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q29de321f875dad4c1cbb","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":857,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T12:34:08.608Z","text":"https://x.com/currencyrevolu1/status/1860820291976651221?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29de321f875dad4c1cbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qa4875355f81cd96b80f8","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":858,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T13:31:11.480Z","text":"我操………………","edited":false,"reply_to":"q906553ec9d3703bfe543","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4875355f81cd96b80f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q906553ec9d3703bfe543","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qc9c7b6e85aab3d54d0c2","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":859,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T14:03:50.404Z","text":"哈恩 天池的cosmos 草根 都是一路人\n闷钱后，一部分自己留着，一部分给草根，和投资者说钱被联盟拿走\n事实是，草根闷掉没有给总部\n总部那边，再民事起诉一下，随后和解，然后钱就洗白，被他们分了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9c7b6e85aab3d54d0c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q7d8df841f4df44e42d5c","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":860,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T14:04:47.510Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 这个不是拱卒 但有可能是[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q906553ec9d3703bfe543","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d8df841f4df44e42d5c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q906553ec9d3703bfe543","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb56357f2b0ab2203c408","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":861,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-16T14:06:32.183Z","text":"拱卒？ Julia？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q29de321f875dad4c1cbb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb56357f2b0ab2203c408","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29de321f875dad4c1cbb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe684f89f248f3145b8ca","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":862,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T14:08:21.909Z","text":"这个里面说，她哥有投资100多万，拿旅游签入境美国","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7d8df841f4df44e42d5c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe684f89f248f3145b8ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d8df841f4df44e42d5c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q7fffb79eeca6a1e004d6","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":863,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T14:08:52.954Z","text":"不清楚是谁，但是编号靠前，应该是他们自己人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fffb79eeca6a1e004d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q95ded90c72e10671c859","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":864,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T14:17:14.044Z","text":"加拿大 法农 德农 账户都被冻结\n2020年的事，应该是涉及GTV投资\n这几个农场主，也是可以被拉进刑事案的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95ded90c72e10671c859","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qfffa5b21e610e505d6d3","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":865,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T14:34:41.201Z","text":"到了私人账户的投资款，基本都被闷掉了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfffa5b21e610e505d6d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q4ed13ca04a4a6ac9aab0","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":866,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-16T15:51:14.477Z","text":"你俩为啥这么激动呀？这个 ECF 477 【ECF477-1 （104页）、477-3（167页）】文件不是早就存在吗，虽然我也是第一次看到？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa4875355f81cd96b80f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ed13ca04a4a6ac9aab0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4875355f81cd96b80f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8506734447f773da0a00","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":867,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-16T16:27:43.172Z","text":"https://youtu.be/LkKP0tJXJF4?si=0DjH6vPTQZ-apDCD","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8506734447f773da0a00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe7afeb6c182dcb4ec1d0","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":868,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T16:28:45.608Z","text":"没 不激动了 不是拱卒","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ed13ca04a4a6ac9aab0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7afeb6c182dcb4ec1d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ed13ca04a4a6ac9aab0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q5f9e6889923e6a18098f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":869,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T16:32:15.484Z","text":"［用户 spr***］  你的意思是 郭就算无罪也要赔偿 这一点 你发了那么多东西 总算说对了一次 但是不是郭赔偿 是联盟农场","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8506734447f773da0a00","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f9e6889923e6a18098f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8506734447f773da0a00","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q20582d47ec3ff4a0233d","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":870,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-16T16:58:12.825Z","text":"原来早就被曝光了，为啥我现在才知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q906553ec9d3703bfe543","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20582d47ec3ff4a0233d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q906553ec9d3703bfe543","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q5cf7796749f93c48563a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":871,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-16T17:00:42.921Z","text":"哦！\n但是经过研究，我倒是体会到了一点新鲜东西：\n我进了Court Listener, 公众只能打开 477的主文，这是检方的量刑文件，而其它所有的附件都看不到。推特上的几张截图的确是重要情报。我和机器人的对话如下：\n我：先帮我解读一下这个ECF477的主文，这是我刚出court-listener 下载的。而其它的副件下载不了。部分其它的副作是有人放在X上，我存下来的。这些附件中的477-1 和477-3 作者都是口口声声挺郭的，据说是长岛当联盟主席期间组织的126个去检方登记的受害者，在郭被关押前后他们在公众眼里都是挺郭的。他们的这些法庭文件大家都看不到，除个别之外，他们表面上还在继续挺郭。\n\n机器人：\n\n这份 ECF 477（底层刑事案件 SDNY 1:23-cr-00118-AT 卷宗）及其相关附件，是检方在 2024 年 11 月 22 日 为准备郭文贵（Miles Guo）和王雁平（Yvette Wang）的量刑（Sentencing）而向 Analisa Torres 法官提交的重磅法律文书。\n结合您提供的 5 页主文 PDF 和 4 张附件截图，为您全面解读这份文书的核心内容，并深度剖析其背后的程序暗流：\n一、 ECF 477 主文核心解读：检方如何利用受害者陈述要求重判？\nECF 477 是纽约南区联邦检察官办公室（AUSA Ryan Finkel 等）提交的受害者影响陈述（Victim Impact Statements）汇总信函。检方将收集到的 126 份受害者陈述 作为“附件 A（Exhibit A）”呈递给法庭，借此向法官施压要求给予被告最严厉、最长年限的监禁刑罚。\n主文从以下四个维度系统阐述了郭文贵及王雁平罪行的严重性：\n * 巨大的经济毁灭（Financial Harm）：\n   * 126 份陈述展示了受害者倾家荡产的惨状：有人被迫卖掉唯一的住房（如陈述 1、11、107），有人全家流落街头依赖社会救济（陈述 6），有人耗尽了父母的养老金（如陈述 32、111），还有人的子女被迫中断学业（如陈述 65、103）。\n   * 数据统计：126 人中有 23 人损失超过 10 万美元，7 人损失超过 50 万美元，6 人损失超过 100 万美元。\n * 极度的心理创伤与自杀倾向（Pain, Hardship & Suicidal Thoughts）：\n   * 检方特别向法官强调，郭文贵团体的洗脑（Brainwashing）和诈骗造成了家庭破裂、严重抑郁及信仰崩塌。\n   * 检方引述陈述 59 和 85 指出，多位受害者因绝望而多次产生自杀念头，这与出庭证人木兰（Ya Li）此前在庭审中承认的自杀倾向高度吻合。\n * 持续的骚扰与报复威胁（Threats & Intimidation）：\n   * 检方指出，即便在庭审结束甚至郭文贵被押期间，郭的追随者仍持续对受害者实施网络暴力、身份信息曝光（Doxxing）及人身威胁。有证人甚至被迫带着全家搬家躲避（陈述 2、3、108）。\n * 对中国海外民主运动的制度性破坏（Broader Harms）：\n   * 检方罕见地引述受害者信函（如陈述 26、53）向法庭指出：郭和王打着“灭共、追求民主法治”的政治旗号行骗，彻底摧毁了海外华人群体之间的信任，客观上严重伤害了真正的民主运动。\n二、 附件截图（477-1 & 477-3）披露的极度反常现象\n结合您提供的几张附件截图，其内部揭示的真实信息令人惊叹，完全印证了您提到的“表面挺郭、暗中向检方提交受害者陈述（VIS）”的双面现象：\n * 附件 477-3（第 12 页/共 167 页）：\n   * 陈述人身份：陈述人明确写道：“我是[姓名遮蔽]，中国联邦[遮蔽]农场主，[遮蔽]德国纽伦堡正义农场的主人，也是铁血集团的成员。”\n   * 内容：信中承认自己曾是这个“诈骗组织的管理人员之一”，深感悔恨，并称郭文贵利用“消灭中共”的理想对追随者实施信仰控制和金融诈骗。\n * 附件 477-3（第 21 页/共 167 页）：\n   * 陈述人身份：陈述人写道：“我是[姓名遮蔽]，联盟指派于2023年9月至2024年10月担任韩国正岛农场的‘代理主人’，并于2024年8月至9月成为‘铁血集团成员’。”\n   * 内容：指控郭文贵、王雁平、余建明（William Je）为犯罪团伙，称自己个人损失超过 10 万美元。\n * 附件 477-3（第 3 页/共 167 页）：\n   * 陈述人身份：发送给检方 Wendy Olsen 的邮件，陈述人自称为“日本樱花农场”成员、Discord 成员，并称在长岛哥的建议下于 2024 年 8 月 3 日加入铁血集团，后于 8 月下旬宣布","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe7afeb6c182dcb4ec1d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cf7796749f93c48563a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7afeb6c182dcb4ec1d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe968082837b6cc68869a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":872,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-16T17:00:48.105Z","text":"退出。\n * 附件 477-1（第 64 页/共 104 页）：\n   * 内容：陈述人强烈要求法官给王雁平顶格判处 10 年监禁。信中透露其哥哥受骗卖房带全家靠旅游签证来美并申请政治庇护，投入近 150 万美元。\n\n三、 为什么公共视野看不到这些文件？这背后的法理与战略意味\n您提到的“公众看不到这些文件，除个别外表面还在继续挺郭”，在美式刑事诉讼中揭示了非常深刻的幕后逻辑：\n * 为什么 CourtListener 下载不了附件？\n   * 如 ECF 477 首页脚注 1 所示：检方对公开版的受害者陈述（VIS）进行了大量 PII 隐私遮蔽（Redaction），同时将未遮蔽的完整版本提交给法庭进行封存（Filed Under Seal）。\n   * PACER / CourtListener 系统中，这类包含受害者敏感信息及检方与受害者直接通信的附件，通常被系统设定了高度的查看权限（Restricted / Sealed），普通公众无法直接点击下载，只有被泄露或特定渠道才能流出。\n * “表面挺郭、暗中砸郭”的双重生存博弈\n   * 这些曾经的农场主、铁血集团核心成员，在 2023–2024 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是多么关键——只有死死咬住程序正义，才能防止这帮内部早已烂透、私下暗盘交易的各方将第三方受害者的法定权益彻底抹杀！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe968082837b6cc68869a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qa49b7edc2fcc4ebd5db0","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":873,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-16T18:40:13.837Z","text":"https://x.com/sarahzh67248600/status/2111164163259056632?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa49b7edc2fcc4ebd5db0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb46aabbc0e34b61016d1","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":874,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T18:40:49.354Z","text":"https://x.com/tiandao7777/status/2025961916544225404?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb46aabbc0e34b61016d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q709d349531c91210cc94","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":875,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T18:53:13.949Z","text":"这些[屏蔽词]一直演，目的是堆cult\nhttps://x.com/ddivul8m3g82864/status/2111111810573304140?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q709d349531c91210cc94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qf543126a3255c3d3739d","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":876,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T18:55:20.571Z","text":"https://x.com/tiandao7777/status/2110987239547154486?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb46aabbc0e34b61016d1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf543126a3255c3d3739d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb46aabbc0e34b61016d1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qec53b89d53def6a59534","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":877,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T18:59:27.085Z","text":"唐平一首五万","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec53b89d53def6a59534","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb5237d798e6dd0d7c00a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":878,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T19:02:25.485Z","text":"［用户 him***］ ［用户 may***］ 不止是失业，是没命\n［用户 hah***］ 这位不就被卖猪仔了嘛","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5237d798e6dd0d7c00a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q9f6b6162a58ce5d2d325","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":879,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-16T19:13:55.841Z","text":"所有这些人没有老郭 屁都不是。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qec53b89d53def6a59534","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f6b6162a58ce5d2d325","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec53b89d53def6a59534","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q8994a5d8a2ec7fa2aff9","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":880,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T19:15:10.178Z","text":"唐平五流音乐人 唱功太拉胯 她唱歌不是跑调 而是比跑调更离谱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8994a5d8a2ec7fa2aff9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2e266a324ed212233a79","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":881,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T19:16:13.338Z","text":"唐平唱所有歌","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e266a324ed212233a79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q2edc10aa707b699edd0a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":882,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T19:16:26.500Z","text":"从头到尾 比调高半个音","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2edc10aa707b699edd0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q40fa3a0f7fd0588ff613","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":883,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T19:16:31.891Z","text":"我不知道她是怎么做到的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40fa3a0f7fd0588ff613","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe18a5aaa72b6e352ad0a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":884,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T19:16:55.163Z","text":"这个比跑调难一万倍 就是从头到尾 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不要你的命","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5d8f81cf3cdfde189f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q243979488a9110ceaebb","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":941,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-17T07:08:34.129Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 你以为 螺丝哥被问询的时候 不会问到你这个喜国人天天剿匪？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q243979488a9110ceaebb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q0607ad3cdf447478c237","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":942,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-17T07:09:44.167Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 哦 所以你自己承认 你那几天消失 就是被抓了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q756fc3cc59c36dee1c38","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0607ad3cdf447478c237","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q62d29686c7fea6e62477","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":943,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-17T07:12:31.058Z","text":"［用户 may***］  我在哪里上班你他妈自己不会去托雷斯南区法庭文件看？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62d29686c7fea6e62477","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q5557406d89b9c8f48c6d","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":944,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-17T07:16:36.135Z","text":"现在又hai si螺丝哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5557406d89b9c8f48c6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qe238a252619107faf94a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":945,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-17T07:25:12.169Z","text":"不懂。大师说话比圣经还难懂，需要专业牧师来解读","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd1de2184951101a4433a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe238a252619107faf94a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1de2184951101a4433a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q283c2d70e6a29f4a833a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":946,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-17T07:25:48.973Z","text":"行话就是 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_ki***］  你们自己不信 不看 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him***］ 螺丝哥就是翻案的","edited":true,"reply_to":"q55b6fe9afd6092850e85","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf829d238b85cc571dc87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qcf7e4731aaedd4a5ca72","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":978,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T00:55:28.181Z","text":"［用户 him***］ [删节：成员身份]说 你[删节：成员身份]要给他安一个密谋罪 所以他从小群退出来了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5d4f7363eee0a594e14e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf7e4731aaedd4a5ca72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qba9b8d1e980a49ee8115","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":979,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:23:10.602Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  ［用户 beg***］  你们853n的强制令上去实在是逆天","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba9b8d1e980a49ee8115","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q1cfd56968103e4360da5","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":980,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:23:32.397Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 你想想看 量刑后没收 没收之前 必须解决853纠纷","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cfd56968103e4360da5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q3058e2f79865c44a155f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":981,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:24:02.098Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 如何解决？就是853n一份一份裁决 法官看看你是不是无辜第三方","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3058e2f79865c44a155f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q253a87f22c6031f1dc6e","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":982,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:25:19.861Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 但是现在问题是 好几个853去了二巡 甚至打了recusal2106 vacate dismiss  如果托雷斯裁决这些853 你要裁决的是在二巡已经有程序的第三方，你托雷斯不管怎么裁决 都是在干扰二巡司法程序。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q253a87f22c6031f1dc6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q30cc7df00f6771e9afcd","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":983,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:27:12.172Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 托雷斯如果拒绝你们这些853 说你们不是第三方，那问题来了，你们在二巡都论证了 你整个量刑都不合法 甚至定罪也不合法 法官偏见继续在位也不合法 二巡虽然还没承认 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那又是在僭越，和二巡产生司法冲突，这就是逼二巡回答853利益受损从而挑战终局的法律依据是什么","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9eb22505c8a693de8975","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q12c3dd656eb6dcb828d7","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":988,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:34:07.174Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 根据以上推理 没收已经不可能了 南区 检方 估计已经放弃郭案了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12c3dd656eb6dcb828d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q1e143fe25bbbc74bf19d","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":989,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:43:59.471Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］  幻想是你的黑洞 没收程序崩了四个月 你看看哪个案子崩四个月的","edited":true,"reply_to":"q56ffdbea9098e8123031","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e143fe25bbbc74bf19d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qd83653a8dc3a999f7752","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":990,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:44:58.834Z","text":"我从来没说过老郭会撤案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaf744d90588d468887ab","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd83653a8dc3a999f7752","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q92c0db87bc774596a77a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":991,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:46:04.346Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］  没收已经崩盘 接下去就是量刑 定罪","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92c0db87bc774596a77a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qdf30fdf1d75409aae3fb","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":992,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:46:50.091Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］  你自己要查啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf30fdf1d75409aae3fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q9946789bf98ad410c67a","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":993,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:48:36.025Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］  量刑是哪一天？ 现在是几月几号？美国司法历史上有没有拖这么久的？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9946789bf98ad410c67a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qed59321687b31737dc0b","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":994,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:48:57.186Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］  你幻想可以 不承认也没关系 你这个喜国人的投资肯定要不回来了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed59321687b31737dc0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qad7843e74cc17bbb6152","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":995,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:49:06.693Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 没收？ 做你的白日梦去吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad7843e74cc17bbb6152","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q41f1b49661a95fbae51f","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":996,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:52:27.928Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 你这个喜国人投几百万 骗谁？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8438f48b8853c9550ce7","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41f1b49661a95fbae51f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q60b08be5c9710f2c7568","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":997,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:52:39.647Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 你没投资是你的幻想","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60b08be5c9710f2c7568","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"qb4cf404a74a415808151","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":998,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:54:05.389Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 辛普森杀人犯都无罪释放","edited":true,"reply_to":"qafac3f018063476ccc39","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4cf404a74a415808151","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q41fbd5ac385c00c8dfaa","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":999,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:54:29.167Z","text":"被骗子骗了就可以骗更多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q541b91c1e55a9a1aaa06","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41fbd5ac385c00c8dfaa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"},{"id":"q0709e27a05f9d3f6fc13","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":1000,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T02:55:24.585Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 而这一天都是因为老郭的骗局","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0709e27a05f9d3f6fc13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000162","next_batch_id":"batch-000164"}