{"id":"batch-000164","number":164,"revision":3,"date_start":"2026-10-18T02:57:41.764Z","date_end":"2026-10-22T02:52:08.267Z","total_messages":1022,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 164 (Oct 18, 2026 – Oct 22, 2026), 1,022 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants debated registration with prosecutors, criminal forfeiture, third-party standing and whether investors could challenge the underlying case. Some invoked United States v. Cronic (466 U.S. 648) to question the defense, while others discussed lawyers and a reported Second Circuit denial. They disputed or speculated about VOG, Maywind, Medical Supply and farm-loan funds, and recounted refund and recovery experiences. 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loans featured in the indictment and sentencing but says their whereabouts are unknown."},{"message_id":"qb1112de9f4c1550207fc","summary_en":"joh*** alleges Maywind retained and refunded at least $4.55 million in loans omitted from a prosecution flowchart."}]},{"title":"Fair Fund Refunds, Authorization and Recovery","description":"Participants recount refund and representation experiences and dispute responsibilities.","message_ids":["q40175e86a9531fbc968c","qd8b92d7c39a8bb86c576","q2242dd251f621d6a6bad"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q40175e86a9531fbc968c","summary_en":"tia*** recalls sending money to Wei, applying for a refund and receiving a Fair Fund HID."},{"message_id":"qd8b92d7c39a8bb86c576","summary_en":"tia*** recalls appointing Zhang Yongbing and later canceling by phone."},{"message_id":"q2242dd251f621d6a6bad","summary_en":"joh*** argues Zhang should disclose his role and relinquish refund authority."}]},{"title":"Civil and Criminal Proceedings and Investor 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LLC","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa43e2d3355359ab3c7d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f4df7c7092c7d59b97d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa43e2d3355359ab3c7d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q6bf7b32a986f52b74379","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":202,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T14:51:13.879Z","text":"［用户 beg***］  不仅单伟健不给 检方都不会给","edited":true,"reply_to":"q71ccfb671345d9afac10","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bf7b32a986f52b74379","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71ccfb671345d9afac10","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q080183ff8e0e492ccab7","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":203,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T14:56:10.024Z","text":"因为现在郭案已量刑，借贷有罪\n借贷，进了medical supply的，无论用CVRA还是853n，都可以\n可以质疑检方，统计借贷的总涉案金额时候，有没有把medical 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supply的借贷投资者，要求魏回应，你的投资去了哪里","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d24c33bfeaa0334dc49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q9f4eda11cadfa2ef2662","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":205,"speaker":"tia***","date":"2026-10-18T15:01:14.829Z","text":"有张合同的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2242dd251f621d6a6bad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f4eda11cadfa2ef2662","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2242dd251f621d6a6bad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q91a4a51b67f17b7adc85","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":206,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T15:01:44.738Z","text":"1）起诉书里肯定包括农场借款\n\n2）给陪审团展示郭罪行的时候肯定也有借款\n\n3） 给郭量刑时，农场借款也包括在內\n\n4）没收了多少？不知道\n\n\n除了300骨干， 借款投资人都在等郭案后返回钱， 但是钱在哪里都不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91a4a51b67f17b7adc85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qa6c998f9dcf01663921f","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":207,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T15:03:53.785Z","text":"管他什么，只要是合同，就往自诉上传，证据堆积多了，一起更有用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9f4eda11cadfa2ef2662","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6c998f9dcf01663921f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f4eda11cadfa2ef2662","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q29bb03dc17bafe12a0b8","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":208,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T15:05:13.753Z","text":"是这个意思\n那么作为投资者，就是要问，去medical supply的借款，目前在哪？\nCVRA质疑，检方一开始就没有把这部分，算进总涉案金额里，因为起诉书和最初没收清单，都没有supply公司","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91a4a51b67f17b7adc85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29bb03dc17bafe12a0b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91a4a51b67f17b7adc85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q176be07a99d83fd395e7","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":209,"speaker":"tia***","date":"2026-10-18T15:05:43.657Z","text":"喔","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6c998f9dcf01663921f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q176be07a99d83fd395e7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6c998f9dcf01663921f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q3ce9551c4f5bea50c803","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":210,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T16:01:40.670Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  郭律师说 loss为负 但如果把闷钱的这些东西加进去 loss就多了 但这些loss是他们直接负责的 所以整个loss amount不对 量刑要重算","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ce9551c4f5bea50c803","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd021e04da9214765fc23","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":211,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-18T16:32:31.669Z","text":"民事和刑事是可以同时走的，民事收回投资快还是刑事快？为什么要抄远路？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91a4a51b67f17b7adc85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd021e04da9214765fc23","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91a4a51b67f17b7adc85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q00d98e529278acdc37e9","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":212,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T17:11:37.585Z","text":"你还想着回本 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用cronic让所有一切重来","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11b91d85f5961ddd6695","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc6a6bb333b38cd1369a5","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":229,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T19:47:27.420Z","text":"简单说就是，可能300共谋闷的钱，远超14亿，而且不在账面上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6a6bb333b38cd1369a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qa41332bb546c97fecb14","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":230,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T19:47:45.090Z","text":"这个打rico","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6a6bb333b38cd1369a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa41332bb546c97fecb14","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6a6bb333b38cd1369a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf6f5d0a181d6826a5062","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":231,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T19:47:58.095Z","text":"检方和共谋达成协议，都不提这些","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6f5d0a181d6826a5062","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q6c4ce53a1927c3d4c9f1","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":232,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T19:48:32.765Z","text":"但是目前二巡，这些underneath的部分，已经有了，检方没有理由再装瞎","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c4ce53a1927c3d4c9f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qbb2234b31e318b4600ab","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":233,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T19:49:36.533Z","text":"量刑，最终没收，都走不下去，检方的路，就是卖300骨干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb2234b31e318b4600ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf819ea6f609531e3690e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":234,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T19:57:21.956Z","text":"屁酱虾头哈恩草根，还有长岛，青，这两届\n300骨干一直在里面，也没有换人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf819ea6f609531e3690e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q0f6d6856f025564120bb","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":235,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T19:58:53.351Z","text":"想跑，怕主子不答应，因为好端端的案子，被他们闷钱，给毁了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f6d6856f025564120bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q6bdc5c51f9b9c616b35c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":236,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T19:59:28.189Z","text":"投诚，没人理，因为没有价值","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bdc5c51f9b9c616b35c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd0458f21f4badc1a428d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":237,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T20:05:17.497Z","text":"［用户 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说 不能有exhibit - 图片； 放在正文里的图片也不行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4caf70f2e419723c7ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd33e78438fa192d8654e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":242,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-18T21:37:29.721Z","text":"魏把一部分农场借贷退给了VOG","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5966332b140d190bc677","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd33e78438fa192d8654e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5966332b140d190bc677","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q98a164f926aa9072e56b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":243,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T21:40:08.556Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 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bank要打印15份","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda9af0ea72d7c172ec38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qa4d2d77230e1cca19c01","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":251,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:04:18.450Z","text":"［用户 spr***］ 你自己去查一下你自己写了啥 机器人写的东西你自己就不检查","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4d2d77230e1cca19c01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qdd6e1eaa7c6a6a57fee7","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":252,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-18T23:10:39.102Z","text":"没有金刚钻，不缆瓷器活。\n不懂没关系，但是千万不可不懂装懂。\n郭总是教导我们，只讲自己懂的东西。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd6e1eaa7c6a6a57fee7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q98e143cc939521e3a586","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":253,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T23:16:28.974Z","text":"Ryan Bai, 25-2726\nJason Zen, 25-3046\n[删节：成员身份], 26-77\nTony, 26-361 \nDoe, 26-364\nCaroline Sun, 26-441\nDX, 26-563\nMia Wang, 26-1072 \nAnonymous 26-1129\nDoe, 26-1178 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一个安小东","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9bb96469d4855a4fbeb0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4fe4e0b2439250c026","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bb96469d4855a4fbeb0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q70c3a6f3131592a16e5f","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":256,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T23:18:02.845Z","text":"据说26-563最牛X。它的打法 直接用二巡的方式打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70c3a6f3131592a16e5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf225af213e03637f7057","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":257,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:18:17.109Z","text":"26-563 到底是谁啊 哪位大神 [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q70c3a6f3131592a16e5f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf225af213e03637f7057","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70c3a6f3131592a16e5f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qea3b196a1078d284af14","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":258,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:18:37.554Z","text":"好像就这些","edited":false,"reply_to":"q98e143cc939521e3a586","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea3b196a1078d284af14","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98e143cc939521e3a586","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q591b9cd0b448025efaba","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":259,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:21:08.609Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 实际上卡洛琳孙也打的不错 但少了些创造力 😄","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q591b9cd0b448025efaba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1ee78f0746e695845e8c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":260,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T23:29:21.546Z","text":"今天X 推送了安小东的推特， 我没发现有问题啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee4fe4e0b2439250c026","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ee78f0746e695845e8c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4fe4e0b2439250c026","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qbdd957e1059e188c78a6","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":261,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T23:29:34.658Z","text":"都是打假联盟的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdd957e1059e188c78a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf93a1cdf213ddbab19dc","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":262,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:29:50.548Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1ee78f0746e695845e8c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf93a1cdf213ddbab19dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ee78f0746e695845e8c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q02e30bc024e9c5d04917","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":263,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T23:29:58.208Z","text":"啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02e30bc024e9c5d04917","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc3fda873bcfaa5749abe","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":264,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:30:02.079Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 安小东推特狂打自诉帮","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3fda873bcfaa5749abe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe924a51520eb56867d70","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":265,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T23:30:10.665Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe924a51520eb56867d70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q09460b63240af7ab1227","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":266,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:30:14.453Z","text":"［用户 him***］  自己又变成bao chu 参与自诉","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09460b63240af7ab1227","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qdc73af460c8608fdd376","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":267,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:30:26.252Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc73af460c8608fdd376","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q71a8d862bffefa1147f5","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":268,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:30:32.370Z","text":"安小东 属于anthon团队","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71a8d862bffefa1147f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1cbfcbc97f818fe42be3","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":269,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-18T23:43:04.768Z","text":"从7月份到现在，这个群一直都在说[删节：成员身份]。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q02e30bc024e9c5d04917","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cbfcbc97f818fe42be3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02e30bc024e9c5d04917","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q49876cac8e6ca044dd5b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":270,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-18T23:45:25.826Z","text":"凡是这些截图，最好是包括日期。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82ac6e57fe7e4ca826ba","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49876cac8e6ca044dd5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qdf01e59edb4211f6a775","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":271,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-18T23:51:58.257Z","text":"给你这张，有SARA图像，我挖到的比你们的炸裂得多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82ac6e57fe7e4ca826ba","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf01e59edb4211f6a775","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q81117c457fcb121091bc","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":272,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:54:30.761Z","text":"［用户 spr***］  操 一个公开群的消息 需要挖？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qdf01e59edb4211f6a775","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81117c457fcb121091bc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf01e59edb4211f6a775","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q22d04d87ac4ea2f6ee01","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":273,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:55:36.788Z","text":"［用户 spr***］  你黑了多少喜国韭菜的钱 自己去二巡自首","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22d04d87ac4ea2f6ee01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q715d98dc1a3913653a5b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":274,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T23:55:45.334Z","text":"谢谢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdf01e59edb4211f6a775","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q715d98dc1a3913653a5b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf01e59edb4211f6a775","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf586984a17a23de1f46a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":275,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-18T23:56:21.188Z","text":"不过她这张图有日期、有头像，比较完整","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97f49e9a918ebe8f578d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf586984a17a23de1f46a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q8fdf436492853041fffc","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":276,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:57:46.618Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 我看这个[屏蔽词]的论调 可能第三梯队本来计划夺权以后 另立新案 告长岛魏丽红 就是千万别在刑事案打","edited":true,"reply_to":"qdf01e59edb4211f6a775","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fdf436492853041fffc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf01e59edb4211f6a775","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd6f4aca5334f4ff1ae5c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":277,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T23:58:40.719Z","text":"［用户 spr***］ 你们还有三个月跑路时间 明年一月份截止","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6f4aca5334f4ff1ae5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qcd514783f00272299a62","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":278,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-19T00:04:50.994Z","text":"我是说的在制度上，明确当外国国家力量被用来针对某位被告时，美国政府的证明责任有所不同。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb9d0d0295d185a9b8e79","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd514783f00272299a62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9d0d0295d185a9b8e79","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q5e94bd1bfe21d119aaca","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":279,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:06:25.694Z","text":"你在她的推，搜盖尔 喜交所","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1ee78f0746e695845e8c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e94bd1bfe21d119aaca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ee78f0746e695845e8c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q19e18f7608a086097d3e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":280,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:08:15.601Z","text":"她想一份投资，赚两把\n青藤给退款一次\n官司再赢一次","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97f49e9a918ebe8f578d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19e18f7608a086097d3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q945b18e1f295c58d8927","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":281,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-19T00:08:27.191Z","text":"郭公开怼9指妖是不是在她要投资人写遗书那会？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q945b18e1f295c58d8927","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q752b626b6c5b321795e6","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":282,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:09:26.003Z","text":"你看青藤联盟的说法，也是要韭菜在所在国告\n这和哈恩一样的\n而且目的不是官司，是逼长岛魏丽红，把闷的吐点出来，分赃","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8fdf436492853041fffc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q752b626b6c5b321795e6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fdf436492853041fffc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qbaee1a288acef9d161fe","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":283,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:11:21.315Z","text":"被逼没办法，就会突然正义感爆棚\n类似南区被第三方逼，才有可能卖300骨干","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd514783f00272299a62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbaee1a288acef9d161fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd514783f00272299a62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2d6bbbdb636a73e3ed8b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":284,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:12:33.311Z","text":"记不得，但是她做过分了，VOG一下子闷了几千人的钱\n她那里泄漏的个人信息最多\n很多墙内的，被喝茶坐牢，都是因为她","edited":false,"reply_to":"q945b18e1f295c58d8927","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d6bbbdb636a73e3ed8b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q945b18e1f295c58d8927","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q44e549d84749835bb546","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":285,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-19T00:13:22.273Z","text":"不上法庭，就算诈骗联盟进去了，美国政府也不会把钱给你。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44e549d84749835bb546","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qed73b7edb79af6fc5c35","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":286,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-19T00:14:33.659Z","text":"美国的司法就是故意设计成，尽可能不给那些等靠要的人搭便车的机会。都要自己去争取。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed73b7edb79af6fc5c35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q14d1dfc8ff0b5c403c77","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":287,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:14:53.410Z","text":"几帮人拿捏了墙内投资者的心理\n这部分人，钱被闷，也不敢上庭\n不是每个人都像螺丝哥，不要命的那种","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44e549d84749835bb546","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14d1dfc8ff0b5c403c77","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44e549d84749835bb546","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4c6f4c7e93ae823bf2a8","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":288,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T00:15:23.151Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ 这个设计相当合理","edited":true,"reply_to":"qed73b7edb79af6fc5c35","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c6f4c7e93ae823bf2a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed73b7edb79af6fc5c35","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q0b3d8c2eb2ed98362759","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":289,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-19T00:15:33.658Z","text":"看9指妖的公告， 觉得她是圣人： 处处为投资人遭想， 手头上没有一分投资人的钱 又信神。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d6bbbdb636a73e3ed8b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b3d8c2eb2ed98362759","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d6bbbdb636a73e3ed8b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe1936693857971d5ab7b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":290,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T00:16:08.037Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 她是未注册外国代理人","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0b3d8c2eb2ed98362759","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1936693857971d5ab7b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b3d8c2eb2ed98362759","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd2cc4d2f05f6aac4906e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":291,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-19T00:16:18.312Z","text":"100%","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2cc4d2f05f6aac4906e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb37d31672e658c59da0a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":292,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T00:16:38.401Z","text":"安娜的强制令 她赖不掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb37d31672e658c59da0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2470c482413a01e67fbe","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":293,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:16:52.741Z","text":"那个公告，maywind法人就是他的姘头，什么海洋吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b3d8c2eb2ed98362759","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2470c482413a01e67fbe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b3d8c2eb2ed98362759","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q8d41d498e9f51d268e94","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":294,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-19T00:17:16.228Z","text":"国内的国安直接说， 魏丽红都把你们的名单给我们了， 抵赖也没用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d41d498e9f51d268e94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2f10133bec650a4dff26","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":295,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:17:27.120Z","text":"另外两个公司，应该就是medical supply和Aeon，长岛后来赢官司赔钱的两个公司","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f10133bec650a4dff26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qfb285ad29475ba67763b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":296,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-19T00:18:10.753Z","text":"是不是姓陈？ 还用投资人的钱在德州买了多处房子？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2470c482413a01e67fbe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb285ad29475ba67763b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2470c482413a01e67fbe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4143a3d8d90b83281dfd","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":297,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T00:20:26.396Z","text":"陈其生","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4143a3d8d90b83281dfd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q8195fea8dd887f0002e5","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":298,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:20:43.544Z","text":"好像是\n这个人，不用管那么多\n汇maywind有合同，拉合同的签字人上刑事","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfb285ad29475ba67763b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8195fea8dd887f0002e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb285ad29475ba67763b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4cf022e2c15c44913374","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":299,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:21:01.289Z","text":"至于法人，那是魏需要解释的事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cf022e2c15c44913374","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1a63806f8b22cb58269a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":300,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:21:28.573Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 我还是觉得，VOG可以被拉回来","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a63806f8b22cb58269a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q74a44cc042c82d18a8cb","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":301,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:22:44.136Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ ［用户 kir***］ 魏到刑事案，一边是把涉及借贷的事，谎称maywind后来都汇给了郭指定的ACA capital，看那个公告（实际是，可能只汇一部分，还有很多闷在手里，但是可以栽赃郭指挥了）","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74a44cc042c82d18a8cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4bdd7efb2bcdb983f14e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":302,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T00:23:48.107Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  魏已经在刑事案了 是共谋言行","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bdd7efb2bcdb983f14e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2df05166ccdd308caddc","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":303,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:25:03.304Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 关于VOG，魏在刑事案里，和检方说，已经和解在退款，并要求涵盖在不起诉协议里\n所以起诉书，没有VOG\n这个项目，也是G集团","edited":true,"reply_to":"q74a44cc042c82d18a8cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2df05166ccdd308caddc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74a44cc042c82d18a8cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q9aa80336588de9e82e34","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":304,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T00:25:39.503Z","text":"那王艳萍认罪的当时是否包含这个？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2df05166ccdd308caddc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aa80336588de9e82e34","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2df05166ccdd308caddc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q04660ef2129e17bb7ac4","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":305,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:25:51.583Z","text":"没有提VOG\n王案14亿的没收清单，也没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9aa80336588de9e82e34","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04660ef2129e17bb7ac4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aa80336588de9e82e34","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd17234dfd1bdf8d90e17","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":306,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T00:26:02.820Z","text":"哦哦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd17234dfd1bdf8d90e17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qcb11b5541e18de0a5522","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":307,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:26:31.219Z","text":"检方不起诉，不代表这就不算","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd17234dfd1bdf8d90e17","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb11b5541e18de0a5522","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd17234dfd1bdf8d90e17","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q065cf37918852ea6c54c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":308,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:27:12.846Z","text":"那个公告，魏说VOG不在她个人账号，都在冻结，撒谎\n［用户 beg***］\n比如，VOG可能还在maywind里，法人又不是她，而且她的话，没有任何可信度","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q065cf37918852ea6c54c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2b99a678d9456a7b7301","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":309,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-19T00:32:34.315Z","text":"voice of guo media,简称vog，在政府证据z-26里的gtv部分。跟maywind 不是同一个公司。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q065cf37918852ea6c54c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b99a678d9456a7b7301","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q065cf37918852ea6c54c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q367eb3754ae48018e08d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":310,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:34:38.551Z","text":"这就是问题了，检方选择性起诉\n庭审里还特意问了G代表什么，是不是Guo\nG series，却不包括VOG，还有G-service（木兰的）","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b99a678d9456a7b7301","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q367eb3754ae48018e08d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b99a678d9456a7b7301","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qba79f5ec060d462ca654","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":311,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-19T00:36:14.100Z","text":"在z-26里，vog收款72.9m。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q367eb3754ae48018e08d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba79f5ec060d462ca654","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q367eb3754ae48018e08d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1106a18b15170368e746","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":312,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:36:51.495Z","text":"VOG只能说是，进入了退款程序\n类似GTV和解退款的公平基金\n所以陪审团在郭案，认为他不涉及GTV\n检方不起诉VOG，理由可以是，它已经进入和解程序","edited":false,"reply_to":"qba79f5ec060d462ca654","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1106a18b15170368e746","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba79f5ec060d462ca654","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe9efdd68e9ba5919eafc","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":313,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:39:42.081Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ ［用户 kir***］这的问题就是，同样的有和解，王因GTV转款被起诉，魏的VOG却没有\n共谋有没有涉及洗钱，是一回事，检方选择不起诉，是另外一回事\n不起诉，要给理由，是不是有协议？\n魏是共谋，VOG在z-26属于GTV投资的部分，那么，也属于涉案资金\n起诉书里，没有VOG的72.9m，王案没收清单，也没有VOG。那么王案涉案金额，有没有包括VOG?\n只要有过GTV投资的，都可以质疑检方，这个72.9m，不是小数目，涉及到王的量刑","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9efdd68e9ba5919eafc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q362eff4c76262fc5a375","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":314,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:57:01.993Z","text":"这个和Z-26里，VOG收的72.9m，很接近了\n关于GTV的没收，正好少了VOG这部分\n解释只剩，不起诉协议了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5b5b1b5564eef9c3a0a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q362eff4c76262fc5a375","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5b5b1b5564eef9c3a0a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc711cc864ee2ba9f2a07","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":315,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:02:26.638Z","text":"先用长岛和魏的借贷官司，maywind和解，说明魏闷了借贷，然后拉回刑事案\n随后魏的不起诉协议，会失效\nVOG这部分72.9m，也要被拿回到刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc711cc864ee2ba9f2a07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q597c76bb9527534b5f76","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":316,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-19T01:09:02.003Z","text":"这应该是郭的目的之一，继续往后推进，就是美国政府工作人员客观上是在帮助中共洗钱，洗的是它从中国人和华人那里偷骗抢了的钱，这是通过司法记录坐实，不是情报，智库，调查报告这个层面。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc711cc864ee2ba9f2a07","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q597c76bb9527534b5f76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc711cc864ee2ba9f2a07","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q686e476b5092da1629a9","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":317,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:09:34.235Z","text":"也就是700里的意思","edited":false,"reply_to":"q597c76bb9527534b5f76","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q686e476b5092da1629a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q597c76bb9527534b5f76","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q5a297d9e735bc67a4f80","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":318,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:10:55.669Z","text":"这300骨干，特别是铁血组的，不止主子嫌弃他们，南区检方里背后的华人shadow，估计也嫌弃\n闷钱，栽赃给郭，然后试图用民事诉讼，配合刑事不起诉协议，给自己洗白\n他们不知道，自己会把多少人拉下水","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a297d9e735bc67a4f80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4e291039b2a99b8cb54d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":319,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:13:08.048Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 王的金钱判决也没有trace","edited":true,"reply_to":"qe9efdd68e9ba5919eafc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e291039b2a99b8cb54d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9efdd68e9ba5919eafc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2b6f4f78e91b88664ac0","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":320,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:14:43.377Z","text":"我操","edited":false,"reply_to":"q597c76bb9527534b5f76","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b6f4f78e91b88664ac0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q597c76bb9527534b5f76","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q323efed72285f8b9e51b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":321,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:18:14.880Z","text":"GTV的投资者，特别是委托给张退款的，就可以自诉，质疑王案的金钱判决\n［用户 ntp***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4e291039b2a99b8cb54d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q323efed72285f8b9e51b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e291039b2a99b8cb54d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qae66b69558625a23266c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":322,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:18:26.340Z","text":"很好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q323efed72285f8b9e51b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae66b69558625a23266c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q323efed72285f8b9e51b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qdbd6f8dc772ca5ec5324","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":323,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:20:33.999Z","text":"汇给魏丽红，走借贷的，maywind /supply /Aeon都行，因为长岛与魏有和解，且魏有退款，可以自诉质疑郭案的金钱判决\n［用户 beg***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbd6f8dc772ca5ec5324","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q10f5d1cae72223ee6c76","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":324,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:23:30.512Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 那金钱判决需要变多😂","edited":true,"reply_to":"qdbd6f8dc772ca5ec5324","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10f5d1cae72223ee6c76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbd6f8dc772ca5ec5324","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4b7a1834708dd145c864","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":325,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:23:44.712Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 但不论多少 都支持作废量刑","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b7a1834708dd145c864","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb1f7fc609b1b5a028c1e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":326,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:25:17.524Z","text":"最后就是，涉案金额，远不止14亿\n闷钱的人，闷的钱，都要被追回\n然后发现，闷钱的，又是污点证人，而且隐瞒了闷钱的事\n随后就是，检方没合格的证人了啊\n因为每一个检方证人，都参与了闷钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q10f5d1cae72223ee6c76","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1f7fc609b1b5a028c1e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10f5d1cae72223ee6c76","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qde2b4de2f0d8ec92422c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":327,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:28:28.833Z","text":"哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde2b4de2f0d8ec92422c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qa17a8e73dad253c6a9c6","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":328,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:31:45.813Z","text":"这300骨干，特别是那十几个农场主，不怕被灭口？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa17a8e73dad253c6a9c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe2363da920fa74bc8ced","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":329,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:32:59.362Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 先用cronic把案件打崩 打到原点，检方可以选择重新起诉","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2363da920fa74bc8ced","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q861c5a9f05469d7e47fb","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":330,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:33:11.591Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 然后检方就可以起诉300骨干","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q861c5a9f05469d7e47fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q0d202b29a69248acaf81","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":331,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:33:52.172Z","text":"案子原框架不变\n之前的受害者陈述，是假的，因为这些人本就是300骨干，要推翻\n郭被剥出来，郭集团的指挥权，不在他那\n投资者成为原告，300未起诉共谋，是被告","edited":false,"reply_to":"q861c5a9f05469d7e47fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d202b29a69248acaf81","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q861c5a9f05469d7e47fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q34d2cceca50c1b5a8f60","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":332,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:35:56.579Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 不缺原告，现在的CVRA，最后就是原告，起头的是螺丝哥，还是托雷斯推荐的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34d2cceca50c1b5a8f60","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1d675b2b2340e52aff27","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":333,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:37:42.635Z","text":"卧槽","edited":false,"reply_to":"q34d2cceca50c1b5a8f60","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d675b2b2340e52aff27","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34d2cceca50c1b5a8f60","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q364f8af210c79906dfb0","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":334,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-19T01:53:03.573Z","text":"原告怎么个当法？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q34d2cceca50c1b5a8f60","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q364f8af210c79906dfb0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34d2cceca50c1b5a8f60","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q75f5ddfdd940acf529ef","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":335,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-19T02:09:52.617Z","text":"刑事案不影响你民事要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q597c76bb9527534b5f76","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75f5ddfdd940acf529ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q597c76bb9527534b5f76","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q24d4943903c220623eb2","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":336,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T02:30:11.917Z","text":"或者就是，第三方打终局","edited":false,"reply_to":"q364f8af210c79906dfb0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24d4943903c220623eb2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q364f8af210c79906dfb0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q3c18160dd15da0b15b93","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":337,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T02:32:29.836Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ \n第三方打到最后，检方的庭审证人，污点证人，都参与了共谋\n检方拉300起诉人，原有的报案受害者，拱竹 Julia，看检方怎么处理\n如果扯上虚假报案，就是假案\n不扯虚假报案，那就是检方隐藏CCp因素，大事化小，还是按诈骗案算","edited":true,"reply_to":"q24d4943903c220623eb2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c18160dd15da0b15b93","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24d4943903c220623eb2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2cf5438b8baa0a5caee7","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":338,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T02:36:51.557Z","text":"第三方用cronic打终局 整个法庭就只能被拖下水讨论cronic 二巡发回重审量刑甚至撤销定罪。一旦重审量刑 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万一能实现呢？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb265227a2dde4420a085","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q68e76edc1c7d9fdd8990","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":356,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T02:59:13.860Z","text":"检方换人，那么搞笑了，之前的不起诉协议，还算吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q974f21fae91035835c2c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68e76edc1c7d9fdd8990","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q974f21fae91035835c2c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb586fccd8eed6a67645d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":357,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:04:09.421Z","text":"不算了啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q68e76edc1c7d9fdd8990","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb586fccd8eed6a67645d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68e76edc1c7d9fdd8990","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qcae06ab2a19022e24c52","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":358,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:04:29.644Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 不是说不算 要重新审查","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcae06ab2a19022e24c52","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qddd1a096987fff83483e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":359,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T03:05:46.623Z","text":"那些共谋就尼玛搞笑了\n算来算去，没想到检方先被踢了\n300骨干哭晕在厕所","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcae06ab2a19022e24c52","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddd1a096987fff83483e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcae06ab2a19022e24c52","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q55ecb485b4879379a09c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":360,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:20:11.229Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 郭是给我打了电话 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让你们整条线崩塌","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b3fb2634a8eb8e76720","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q61d23b31c49afa2cbd82","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":363,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:30:52.035Z","text":"［用户 him***］  安小东 黄可可 anthon 只要我动动手指 你们整条线都会爆掉","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61d23b31c49afa2cbd82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q5fdea116884a8cd7d17b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":364,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-19T03:34:38.173Z","text":"Gclub 啥情况， 我正在看托雷斯的858 - wire fraud and security fraud","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fdea116884a8cd7d17b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q8ab931571f4892845e05","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":365,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-19T03:35:04.105Z","text":"好像没有人打gclub 这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ab931571f4892845e05","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q5095484fd5201321be03","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":366,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:36:05.322Z","text":"怎么说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5fdea116884a8cd7d17b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5095484fd5201321be03","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fdea116884a8cd7d17b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc03500b0a6b447738a81","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":367,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:36:20.194Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 老郭文件700打过","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc03500b0a6b447738a81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q289c1d26655c5410dea0","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":368,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:37:10.374Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 但都涂黑了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q289c1d26655c5410dea0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q413b3e438a67ed378063","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":369,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:39:08.474Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 你自己去找","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q413b3e438a67ed378063","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q5b415e64b15edc1ccd89","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":370,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:39:12.190Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 你自己回答","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b415e64b15edc1ccd89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q67bf472e21def494881d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":371,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-19T03:39:50.944Z","text":"大家好好看看858， 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螺丝哥说的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1cb3e38d3238c844363","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fa483a64418a7fee373","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q61a97c176a8c82bd42bf","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":377,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-19T03:45:52.666Z","text":"里面提到mawah, 还说查封资产的总额不需要准确\n\n我是第一次看托雷斯的858 判决， 她正个文件就是回应第三方在二巡的强制令！ 她说不管你们让不认为是受害人，但是如果诈骗行为存在，”投资人”的钱就该被没收。另外她还说/意思是 提出问题的人， 其投资数目不足道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61a97c176a8c82bd42bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q9b55f9633066a1a6303c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":378,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:48:17.026Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 打脸来了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q64af47818843b5024e27","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b55f9633066a1a6303c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf2d4a85ae328b69586ed","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":379,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:48:32.904Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 你每说一句被打一次脸","edited":true,"reply_to":"q64af47818843b5024e27","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2d4a85ae328b69586ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q85c4dc5d90e95df4729f","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":380,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T03:48:53.054Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 指不定，  ［用户 may***］ 是特意冲你来的，在你的资料被托雷斯po以后","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85c4dc5d90e95df4729f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe06d89bba853e14119f4","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":381,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:49:20.890Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  我是谁 我在哪里 我收入多少 都已经透明了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q85c4dc5d90e95df4729f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe06d89bba853e14119f4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85c4dc5d90e95df4729f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd3bcbe49e433a9cc4dce","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":382,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:56:21.540Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 那为什么你的钱还拿不回来","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb73a4a697fbd255fe88e","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3bcbe49e433a9cc4dce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q041c09429a802df59427","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":383,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:56:36.844Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 美国刑事案没有任何先例 托这么久的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q041c09429a802df59427","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q7687687d07c37a941f5a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":384,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:57:07.432Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 翻案 第一个表现 就是你钱拿不回来 没人能拿回来 因为程序进行不下去 卡住","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7687687d07c37a941f5a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q41c4f14822f53d31b9ce","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":385,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:57:54.515Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 如果你说翻案是笑话 那现在早就应该分钱了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41c4f14822f53d31b9ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q66ce902d716b267b26e3","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":386,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T03:58:02.795Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 你的钱呢？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66ce902d716b267b26e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qda90cc43e631881750c7","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":387,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T03:59:06.289Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ [删节：成员身份]这句话，暴露了\n反着听，确实是[删节：成员身份]卖的螺丝哥\n所以需要，贼喊捉贼","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfdd6cab7730982e9741f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda90cc43e631881750c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4efd48ec89b4635a9591","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":388,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T04:00:04.849Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 安小东一看就知道[删节：成员身份]怎么回事 特务之间都有默契","edited":true,"reply_to":"qda90cc43e631881750c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4efd48ec89b4635a9591","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda90cc43e631881750c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q3718575cd24d654dbda1","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":389,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T04:00:43.074Z","text":"那几天[删节：成员身份]不在，就是去带路党了嘛","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3718575cd24d654dbda1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qcc966accc5cfd08d5551","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":390,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T04:00:49.341Z","text":"很明显","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3718575cd24d654dbda1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc966accc5cfd08d5551","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3718575cd24d654dbda1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q7a58ce898c176ddb6cc1","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":391,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T04:07:56.791Z","text":"这个858是仓促之间弄的\n托雷斯只管推进到629量刑\n是不是合理，她也管不了这么多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61a97c176a8c82bd42bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a58ce898c176ddb6cc1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61a97c176a8c82bd42bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q114456d43c009e33e9c8","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":392,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T04:10:17.842Z","text":"［用户 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托雷斯还能这样干嘛","edited":true,"reply_to":"q61a97c176a8c82bd42bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38db494e16b06cc0a729","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61a97c176a8c82bd42bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q807d5cda93f71fef28d5","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":395,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T04:24:02.106Z","text":"她的回复，是压下Tony不给docket的基础上，说的\n因为如果这个docket，量刑更不可能\n打压自诉，目的是尽快推进到量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38db494e16b06cc0a729","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q807d5cda93f71fef28d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38db494e16b06cc0a729","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q11f9a1f2fefec2fd497f","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":396,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T04:29:27.933Z","text":"［用户 him***］  那我就问你 如果第三方论证cronic来要求取消所有第三方程序 整个法庭要如何才能不谈翻案","edited":true,"reply_to":"qdc1649759df73ed67f3d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11f9a1f2fefec2fd497f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q18461348aaa5282f801f","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":397,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-19T04:29:28.415Z","text":"二巡是最早拒绝tony的强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38db494e16b06cc0a729","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18461348aaa5282f801f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38db494e16b06cc0a729","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q472b025ac989728a7556","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":398,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T04:30:39.086Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 现在这个局 辩方律师只能跟着第三方节奏 第三方提cronic 我问你 怎么才能不翻案","edited":true,"reply_to":"qdc1649759df73ed67f3d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q472b025ac989728a7556","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qa22ad77c6bf0ae5e6da2","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":399,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T04:30:43.993Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 请回答","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa22ad77c6bf0ae5e6da2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q9d0446e7fbdd14f7153e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":400,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T04:31:49.092Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 论证cronic来要求取消第三方程序 因为如果主案程序崩溃 第三方程序也不复存在 我就问你 你怎么破","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d0446e7fbdd14f7153e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000163","next_batch_id":"batch-000165"}