{"id":"batch-000164","number":164,"revision":3,"date_start":"2026-10-18T02:57:41.764Z","date_end":"2026-10-22T02:52:08.267Z","total_messages":1022,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 164 (Oct 18, 2026 – Oct 22, 2026), 1,022 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants debated registration with prosecutors, criminal forfeiture, third-party standing and whether investors could challenge the underlying case. Some invoked United States v. Cronic (466 U.S. 648) to question the defense, while others discussed lawyers and a reported Second Circuit denial. They disputed or speculated about VOG, Maywind, Medical Supply and farm-loan funds, and recounted refund and recovery experiences. Discussion also touched on evidence, group trust and politics.","guide_en":[{"title":"Prosecutor Registration, Forfeiture and Recovery","description":"Participants discuss registration and argue about forfeiture proceedings.","message_ids":["qe35f5719d1192ae60a75","qbcdd836c70f4d5afbd25","qd489f80e89ee2e4f1217"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qe35f5719d1192ae60a75","summary_en":"kir*** asks whether may*** registered with prosecutors and says recovery awaits forfeiture proceedings."},{"message_id":"qbcdd836c70f4d5afbd25","summary_en":"kir*** asks why may*** does not seek the money from prosecutors."},{"message_id":"qd489f80e89ee2e4f1217","summary_en":"kir*** contends that third parties are handling the crucial proceedings."}]},{"title":"Third-Party Standing and Challenges to the Main Case","description":"Participants debate third-party evidence and challenges to the case.","message_ids":["q42d0d192c7633f550e4d","q11f9a1f2fefec2fd497f","q9d0446e7fbdd14f7153e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q42d0d192c7633f550e4d","summary_en":"beg*** sarcastically contrasts third-party submissions with Guo’s lawyers."},{"message_id":"q11f9a1f2fefec2fd497f","summary_en":"kir*** asks how a court could avoid considering reversal if third parties invoke Cronic."},{"message_id":"q9d0446e7fbdd14f7153e","summary_en":"kir*** argues that collapse of the main case would eliminate third-party proceedings."}]},{"title":"Effective Counsel: Cronic and Litigation Strategy","description":"Participants invoke Cronic to challenge the defense.","message_ids":["qf2bee64780ffdacf4cef","q6706cbca4b66949bcf55","qf9cd797497caf45d469c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf2bee64780ffdacf4cef","summary_en":"kir*** describes United States v. Cronic (466 U.S. 648) and argues its standard concerns a complete failure of adversarial testing."},{"message_id":"q6706cbca4b66949bcf55","summary_en":"kir*** contends that Cronic already applies."},{"message_id":"qf9cd797497caf45d469c","summary_en":"ntp*** alleges ineffective trial counsel and criticizes the judge and successor counsel."}]},{"title":"Reconsideration Materials and the Second Circuit","description":"Participants discuss submissions and a reported denial.","message_ids":["qa399f0c4fa147a6cae72","q8c58a52ca986f748c362","q090571e9b9b19014ad0e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa399f0c4fa147a6cae72","summary_en":"beg*** says farm loans and Maywind are next."},{"message_id":"q8c58a52ca986f748c362","summary_en":"ntp*** asks whether only reconsideration motions cannot include attachments."},{"message_id":"q090571e9b9b19014ad0e","summary_en":"beg*** describes a Second Circuit denial but says they did not understand it."}]},{"title":"VOG’s Omission and the Amount at Issue","description":"joh*** offers explanations and discusses forfeiture records.","message_ids":["q196b18519c08917e36cb","q0a656dcdb636a12c59e5","q04660ef2129e17bb7ac4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q196b18519c08917e36cb","summary_en":"joh*** suggests VOG was omitted because it was settling and refunding money."},{"message_id":"q0a656dcdb636a12c59e5","summary_en":"joh*** speculates that Wei’s non-prosecution agreement covered VOG."},{"message_id":"q04660ef2129e17bb7ac4","summary_en":"joh*** says VOG was absent from Wang’s $1.4 billion forfeiture list."}]},{"title":"Maywind, Farm Loans and Medical Supply","description":"Participants discuss company relationships and disputed fund flows.","message_ids":["q64fd5433f81e0cfe15b3","q91a4a51b67f17b7adc85","qb1112de9f4c1550207fc"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q64fd5433f81e0cfe15b3","summary_en":"reb*** recalls believing Mulan established Medical Supply in the alliance’s name."},{"message_id":"q91a4a51b67f17b7adc85","summary_en":"beg*** contends farm loans featured in the indictment and sentencing but says their whereabouts are unknown."},{"message_id":"qb1112de9f4c1550207fc","summary_en":"joh*** alleges Maywind retained and refunded at least $4.55 million in loans omitted from a prosecution flowchart."}]},{"title":"Fair Fund Refunds, Authorization and Recovery","description":"Participants recount refund and representation experiences and dispute responsibilities.","message_ids":["q40175e86a9531fbc968c","qd8b92d7c39a8bb86c576","q2242dd251f621d6a6bad"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q40175e86a9531fbc968c","summary_en":"tia*** recalls sending money to Wei, applying for a refund and receiving a Fair Fund HID."},{"message_id":"qd8b92d7c39a8bb86c576","summary_en":"tia*** recalls appointing Zhang Yongbing and later canceling by phone."},{"message_id":"q2242dd251f621d6a6bad","summary_en":"joh*** argues Zhang should disclose his role and relinquish refund authority."}]},{"title":"Civil and Criminal Proceedings and Investor Claims","description":"Participants compare routes for asserting claims.","message_ids":["qa6c998f9dcf01663921f","qd021e04da9214765fc23","q44e549d84749835bb546"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa6c998f9dcf01663921f","summary_en":"joh*** advocates submitting contracts as evidence in a self-filed action."},{"message_id":"qd021e04da9214765fc23","summary_en":"spr*** asks whether civil proceedings could recover investments faster than criminal proceedings."},{"message_id":"q44e549d84749835bb546","summary_en":"reb*** argues investors must go to court to recover money."}]},{"title":"Reversal and Disagreements Within the Group","description":"Participants express views about reversal and political identity.","message_ids":["q1eb419f3c274722501a8","q70d99dbee2b5be6177d7","q43c15319d6ca09f64d9f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1eb419f3c274722501a8","summary_en":"ntp*** fears lasting ridicule if Guo’s case is not overturned."},{"message_id":"q70d99dbee2b5be6177d7","summary_en":"kir*** calls reversal the only measure."},{"message_id":"q43c15319d6ca09f64d9f","summary_en":"kir*** criticizes someone for equating a figure with opposition to communism."}]},{"title":"Evidence and Responsibility for Funds","description":"Participants question testimony and dispute responsibility for losses.","message_ids":["qc5e48c1e3df35a80b5c9","q523c8c256c78ad14d138","q576e3aa48dfc8a17eba9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qc5e48c1e3df35a80b5c9","summary_en":"beg*** alleges that Nine Fingers gave false testimony."},{"message_id":"q523c8c256c78ad14d138","summary_en":"beg*** asks which document contains testimony about transfers to ACA Capital."},{"message_id":"q576e3aa48dfc8a17eba9","summary_en":"reb*** disputes victim classifications and attribution of farm losses to Guo."}]},{"title":"US Politics and the Midterms","description":"kir*** mentions the election and expresses political views.","message_ids":["q672ef53ddc9529e91f40","q0c3f9b220cad2125ae4b","qbd93d84ba55ed6fe5a38"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q672ef53ddc9529e91f40","summary_en":"kir*** mentions the midterm elections."},{"message_id":"q0c3f9b220cad2125ae4b","summary_en":"kir*** says they will vote Republican without deliberation."},{"message_id":"qbd93d84ba55ed6fe5a38","summary_en":"kir*** alleges that fraudsters brought the Communist Party to court and predicts retaliation."}]}],"summary":"讨论主要围绕郭案及相关投资追偿展开。参与者对检方登记、刑事没收、第三方申请资格及投资者能否挑战主案提出不同看法；有人主张以Cronic标准质疑辩护有效性，也有人讨论律师作用、二巡裁定和可能的后续途径。关于VOG、Maywind、Medical Supply与农场借贷，讨论者对公司关系、资金去向、款项是否计入涉案金额及未被起诉的原因存在争议和猜测。有人讲述等待公平基金退款、取消代理和追债的经历，并比较民事诉讼、刑事程序与自行主张权利。参与者还争论翻案与投资者维权的关系，追问截图、证词和法庭文件的依据；部分话题涉及群内互信、美国司法与中期选举。","guide":[{"title":"检方登记、没收程序与资金追回的争议","message_ids":["qe35f5719d1192ae60a75","qbcdd836c70f4d5afbd25","qd489f80e89ee2e4f1217"]},{"title":"第三方申请资格及能否挑战主案","message_ids":["q42d0d192c7633f550e4d","q11f9a1f2fefec2fd497f","q9d0446e7fbdd14f7153e"]},{"title":"律师辩护是否有效：Cronic标准与诉讼策略","message_ids":["qf2bee64780ffdacf4cef","q6706cbca4b66949bcf55","qf9cd797497caf45d469c"]},{"title":"复议材料、二巡裁定与后续途径","message_ids":["qa399f0c4fa147a6cae72","q8c58a52ca986f748c362","q090571e9b9b19014ad0e"]},{"title":"VOG为何未列入刑事起诉，以及款项是否计入涉案金额","message_ids":["q196b18519c08917e36cb","q0a656dcdb636a12c59e5","q04660ef2129e17bb7ac4"]},{"title":"Maywind、农场借贷与Medical Supply资金流向","message_ids":["q64fd5433f81e0cfe15b3","q91a4a51b67f17b7adc85","qb1112de9f4c1550207fc"]},{"title":"公平基金退款、代理授权及投资者追偿经历","message_ids":["q40175e86a9531fbc968c","qd8b92d7c39a8bb86c576","q2242dd251f621d6a6bad"]},{"title":"民事诉讼、刑事程序与投资者自行主张权利","message_ids":["qa6c998f9dcf01663921f","qd021e04da9214765fc23","q44e549d84749835bb546"]},{"title":"翻案意义、投资者维权与群内争执","message_ids":["q1eb419f3c274722501a8","q70d99dbee2b5be6177d7","q43c15319d6ca09f64d9f"]},{"title":"证据来源与资金责任：对截图、证词和文件的追问","message_ids":["qc5e48c1e3df35a80b5c9","q523c8c256c78ad14d138","q576e3aa48dfc8a17eba9"]},{"title":"参与者对美国司法、中期选举及政治人物的看法","message_ids":["q672ef53ddc9529e91f40","q0c3f9b220cad2125ae4b","qbd93d84ba55ed6fe5a38"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-11-01T17:05:17.114Z","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164/pages/5","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000164?page=5","page":5,"page_size":200,"total_pages":6,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000164?page=6","prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000164?page=4","messages":[{"id":"qf14768f948ffa2ccf807","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":801,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T17:43:32.741Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 你给你群里的人好好问你被谁出卖了","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb3e75c072eeb40bb0873","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf14768f948ffa2ccf807","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe2b959972dd663400a04","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":802,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-20T17:44:13.938Z","text":"那个群有多少鸟呀？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf14768f948ffa2ccf807","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2b959972dd663400a04","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf14768f948ffa2ccf807","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf44eefab8498dd5e5fb4","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":803,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T17:45:45.922Z","text":"就他们几个 还有几个领导","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe2b959972dd663400a04","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf44eefab8498dd5e5fb4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2b959972dd663400a04","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q249ca9894a9442d09888","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":804,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T17:47:22.474Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 园区领导你能决定？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qeb1f186a20d35d9809e4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q249ca9894a9442d09888","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd966fa35da03d69bb74e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":805,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T17:48:22.758Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 你要不相信还会去小群？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd966fa35da03d69bb74e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qdfee4d783f376e49b19e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":806,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-20T17:49:28.636Z","text":"那个小群的名字是什么？建多久了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd966fa35da03d69bb74e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfee4d783f376e49b19e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd966fa35da03d69bb74e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q545e8070216b3e16c6a9","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":807,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T17:50:22.028Z","text":"法院搭理了10几次了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q66b9511e9f8335261f0d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q545e8070216b3e16c6a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q793d8d05bd38225bb96e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":808,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T17:52:32.455Z","text":"［用户 may***］ 做贼心虚 哈哈哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q793d8d05bd38225bb96e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q3d926bad39c624dac2e7","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":809,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T17:53:21.277Z","text":"［用户 may***］  iphone14 你们小群里面 怎么做的决定？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4365ff30a5c311fd1192","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d926bad39c624dac2e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb3af7aa6d1b2977014c9","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":810,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T17:55:46.346Z","text":"［用户 may***］  我没有欺骗他们 我只有我骗你们喜国人","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2d7efa1ed71cb07eb5fb","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3af7aa6d1b2977014c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qdbac8acb8a7d5e31efc0","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":811,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T17:56:16.943Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 你这说对了 没人能拿钱","edited":true,"reply_to":"qecd506bcea2ebdc47f03","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbac8acb8a7d5e31efc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qfcf05ead7bf7a81bae7d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":812,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T17:56:23.037Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 想拿钱？做梦","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcf05ead7bf7a81bae7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q263779b14766a56c7bf5","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":813,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:04:50.958Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 他们在小群统筹规划","edited":true,"reply_to":"qc42a4a57c6b4ce95e997","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q263779b14766a56c7bf5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qebb8eb621c8d66a7c29c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":814,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:04:58.234Z","text":"有人分派任务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebb8eb621c8d66a7c29c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q76b77a62793da38a8842","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":815,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:05:28.981Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08e83ef5bd7baa356fcd","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76b77a62793da38a8842","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qdd35204086f7d9c7f5de","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":816,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:09:11.340Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  因为别的他们不懂 他们领导再蠢 都知道老郭确实要翻案了","edited":true,"reply_to":"qdbb8158e6f9a928afda9","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd35204086f7d9c7f5de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q98abda7de1bd380de3bc","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":817,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:19:33.860Z","text":"自己去找法庭文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc3d79436bfbef7b8dca","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98abda7de1bd380de3bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q19cd38921f9c8b36b666","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":818,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:35:06.559Z","text":"［用户 may***］  老郭翻案你能阻挡？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19cd38921f9c8b36b666","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2993b4a1f114170e7ccb","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":819,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:35:30.509Z","text":"［用户 may***］  我用什么手机 穿不穿内裤 和现在第二巡回法庭的案卷有什么关系","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2993b4a1f114170e7ccb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q520fe1134b33c1e97cfe","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":820,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:35:59.554Z","text":"［用户 may***］  老郭翻案已经无可阻挡 省省吧 别忙了 ［用户 hah***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q520fe1134b33c1e97cfe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc916c31d62b4153514c4","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":821,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:36:20.649Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 有什么关系？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1984d775d97cf7340b80","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc916c31d62b4153514c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qa634c7b04c843b833f25","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":822,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:36:38.389Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  老郭翻案 是天道规律","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa634c7b04c843b833f25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1c1430c79ca0d7d5cad7","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":823,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:36:49.557Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  而运用此天道的 是我","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c1430c79ca0d7d5cad7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd41cd2c5f5baa6a0ecfd","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":824,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:38:02.694Z","text":"老郭翻案你们已经无可阻挡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd41cd2c5f5baa6a0ecfd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q3df498d19513f18a7015","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":825,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:38:10.638Z","text":"都是无用功","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3df498d19513f18a7015","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q3c524260320920b8ae3a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":826,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:38:22.926Z","text":"你们的钱也不可能拿回来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c524260320920b8ae3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc05c2857a8781b4ae9c7","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":827,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T18:52:34.317Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  到现在为止没一件事情实现的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc05c2857a8781b4ae9c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q15ad298982294fc16ae0","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":828,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-20T20:33:01.144Z","text":"这个发言者是谁https://x.com/britishrosefarm/status/2112517040233726222?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15ad298982294fc16ae0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q76aa8e2ae6d87e73fb27","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":829,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T20:39:22.032Z","text":"好像不敢提青藤 燕平了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15ad298982294fc16ae0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76aa8e2ae6d87e73fb27","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15ad298982294fc16ae0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qda635cba26798751585c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":830,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-20T20:51:23.301Z","text":"粪青这次又没在总部","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda635cba26798751585c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd1711a70f9dd7423e92b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":831,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-20T20:51:28.114Z","text":"跑了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1711a70f9dd7423e92b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q7b71b6b8a3dd6aec6733","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":832,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T20:51:35.465Z","text":"肯定跑路了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b71b6b8a3dd6aec6733","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1de99811f507591aa295","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":833,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-20T21:01:03.175Z","text":"Q 又他妈说胡话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1de99811f507591aa295","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q31bb0333bf5c65581ea8","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":834,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-20T23:45:54.424Z","text":"发这个帖子的真阴毒 - 什么郭父国母？ 谁是国母、这不特么的造谣吗 \n\n郭先生为人坦坦荡荡， 连一个访客去他家都要有另外两个人在场，+“彦平姐” 那个长相， 当什么国母？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea755bd13fdef45ceedd","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31bb0333bf5c65581ea8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q7a297e8ff9573b5c1e34","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":835,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T23:47:41.845Z","text":"［用户 beg***］  之前扣霉抢国母的称号😄","edited":true,"reply_to":"q31bb0333bf5c65581ea8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a297e8ff9573b5c1e34","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31bb0333bf5c65581ea8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q090571e9b9b19014ad0e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":836,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-20T23:48:32.927Z","text":"刚刚看到的。二巡神速。deny。但是没看懂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q090571e9b9b19014ad0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qbb4d4ca8a24afb07c488","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":837,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-20T23:49:09.899Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ \n\n法律神，分析分析","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb4d4ca8a24afb07c488","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q8b53a784cf10df97232a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":838,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-20T23:49:46.295Z","text":"最后那两句话没看懂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b53a784cf10df97232a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q7addb372c8d769762ab9","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":839,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-20T23:53:16.804Z","text":"19号上传，20号deny。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7addb372c8d769762ab9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qdb0c926a4ff707fe653a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":840,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-20T23:58:16.394Z","text":"二巡的模版化deny 很正常。 如果没有新的论点 这就是二巡的处理方法 但是这里也有信息量 他说 has considered the request 就是说 你写的他们全看了 南区多少违规他们都知道。 只是现在先deny","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb4d4ca8a24afb07c488","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb0c926a4ff707fe653a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb4d4ca8a24afb07c488","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2ca185aeb077554c6414","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":841,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-20T23:59:55.814Z","text":"安娜如果在群里，建议上最高法，先打个前站，让最高法立一个郭相关的案子。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ca185aeb077554c6414","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q9e40dedb2e117a948b77","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":842,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:00:10.371Z","text":"先不用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ca185aeb077554c6414","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e40dedb2e117a948b77","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ca185aeb077554c6414","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1ab79c7b18bc0152aa76","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":843,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:00:21.875Z","text":"明年大决战","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ab79c7b18bc0152aa76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb65767840e611e605783","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":844,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T00:01:32.518Z","text":"我是主张，二巡只要拒绝就走最高法。就算当初二巡给我立案，然后给一个without prejudice ，我还是会上最高法走流程。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb65767840e611e605783","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1ef28ed795fd018e97ab","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":845,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:09:45.901Z","text":"条件允许 当然好","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb65767840e611e605783","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ef28ed795fd018e97ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb65767840e611e605783","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qcc954989c26be033c27c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":846,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T00:12:26.048Z","text":"表面在推上骂的欢，其实几帮人私下，还是一家人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc954989c26be033c27c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qbb07575c47ea466d8336","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":847,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:33:39.590Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  接下去 你们谁敢第一个上cronic  郭文贵翻案的关键一击","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb07575c47ea466d8336","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe850ca668a272f96cad0","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":848,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T00:34:11.648Z","text":"现在能够对付它们拖延招数的，就是破产案还在继续花G enterprise 里的钱这个点。破产案的5739，以及政府与政府受托人之前的处理哪些g enterprise资产由谁控制的协议，本身就证明了存在资金混同，既然存在混同，就应该先停下来，把账捋清楚了才能再花钱，在政府和地区法院均不再保管涉案资产的完整性，通过拖延程序消耗涉案资产时，唯一可行的司法手段就只剩批准强制令。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe850ca668a272f96cad0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qa201bad1f73cb14cf53d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":849,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:36:11.250Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］  你就这么怕cronic？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa201bad1f73cb14cf53d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q84b0593f78db28a9d981","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":850,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:37:42.721Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 但你知道这是郭文贵翻案的致命一击","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84b0593f78db28a9d981","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q274f397941517db8ab19","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":851,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:38:13.246Z","text":"问题来了 郭文贵翻案了 你还能叫做被骗吗？ ［用户 _ki***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q274f397941517db8ab19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qed9c5f99c7e537c69dad","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":852,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-10-21T00:39:09.247Z","text":"自诉群体在自诉中成长，这是从小白到专业人士的成长过程，是靠群体智慧和共同的价值观完成的。非专业人士用业余时间干了相当专业的活，而且还干得这么漂亮，必须点赞👍👍。\n    通过一年多抽丝剥茧的厘清和分析，你们对老郭的案子抓到了此案司法欺诈、干扰司法、程序不正义等诸多法律漏洞和判决陷阱，尽管老郭被判刑30年，你们仍然契而不舍地继续找证据证明这是一桩有组织、有预谋的陷害案，而且已经摸到了陷害案的命门，即用cronic完全能掀翻此案。而且老郭的700号案卷已经点到辩护律师不作为，因为辩护律师不作为，案子被数次拖延。\n     现在二巡很尴尬，因为老家伙们也知道cronic能打翻此案，所以给了4个月的等待时间，若每个自诉者都集中打cronic，二巡老家伙们的心里防线也会崩溃，因为已经有人要把cronic打到最高法院，这就是给二巡施压。\n    官司打到最后，检方、法官和ccp才惊出冷汗，他们布局如此周密却没有算到第三方自诉群体，而第三方自诉群体凭借AI和群体的勇气和智慧竟然让他们走麦城了，他们千算万算却没有算到第三方群体的执着和威力，这也是联盟拼命打压自诉群的缘由，再次给你们点赞👍👍！而这些状况老郭早就算到了，他说的5%是天道的概念，因为灭共被动员起来，业已天成，不可阻挡，第三方群体是为正义而战，帮老郭打官司就是站在正义的一方。你们已经创造了美国司法奇迹，你们就是老郭要找的人😂😂👍👍！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed9c5f99c7e537c69dad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q794408ca756582636332","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":853,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:40:06.232Z","text":"这个总结有点长🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed9c5f99c7e537c69dad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q794408ca756582636332","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed9c5f99c7e537c69dad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc51e3c0a637473c129b9","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":854,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T00:42:26.795Z","text":"检方和luc和解，目的也是拖延嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe850ca668a272f96cad0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc51e3c0a637473c129b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe850ca668a272f96cad0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q38ff3bef49e34067a1a3","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":855,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T00:44:00.975Z","text":"一石二鸟，给之前的Mahwah擦屁股，同时给luc在破产案继续花钱，提供合理性","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38ff3bef49e34067a1a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q26ee66e9d9176e0e1dd5","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":856,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-10-21T00:44:59.826Z","text":"不想被夸奖吗？那我就撤回了😂😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q794408ca756582636332","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26ee66e9d9176e0e1dd5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q794408ca756582636332","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q65ebdce7fbb3165b935f","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":857,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-21T00:51:55.635Z","text":"这个好像超过了14天也超过了3000字哦，二巡还给看了都不错了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60d372c3e75af11e2f95","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65ebdce7fbb3165b935f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qadb7ac30f7c657deddbe","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":858,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:53:38.295Z","text":"他是[删节：成员身份]的 ［用户 joh***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadb7ac30f7c657deddbe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qbf8082b356143c570c3d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":859,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:54:27.727Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 这难道不是你？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q93828f1c46d67cdf1dc3","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf8082b356143c570c3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd8db11ac8c4253d2d65f","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":860,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T00:55:14.889Z","text":"青藤那届，唐平，屁酱，虾头，都是自己人\n起诉唐母子，也是掩护撤退，参考长岛起诉魏丽红\n屁酱第三梯队，也是早设计好的\n踢走屁酱虾头，是为了日后再回来接棒\nhttps://x.com/laocong26981282/status/1879533445178953782?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8db11ac8c4253d2d65f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q7fd107139518e3291b30","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":861,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-21T00:55:17.177Z","text":"这典型的砸郭的，它们的话真真假假，只能听一半信一半，我几年前就把它拉黑了。只不过我们现在都觉得它们比联盟的人好一些","edited":false,"reply_to":"q31bb0333bf5c65581ea8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd107139518e3291b30","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31bb0333bf5c65581ea8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qca476f2f608b57b50df5","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":862,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-21T00:56:13.503Z","text":"你这好像没附上summary order的副本啊，他们也没说啥？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60d372c3e75af11e2f95","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca476f2f608b57b50df5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q998e13dddd044a6c53b1","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":863,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:56:43.808Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 不可能有赔款了","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa6c51617614512aaba5d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q998e13dddd044a6c53b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q6cb2232b469593ab9245","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":864,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:56:55.353Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］  是你靠幻想赢","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5580f6b63fe66af6c0bc","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cb2232b469593ab9245","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1ee8579517e2fc4e6879","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":865,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:57:13.318Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 还在做梦赔款 早没了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ee8579517e2fc4e6879","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q00f69cc2993bac07f9c2","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":866,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:57:58.611Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 你这几百万都是我的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00f69cc2993bac07f9c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q08daad550d7e72265318","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":867,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T00:58:07.611Z","text":"砸的只能领狗粮，是底层\n联盟的，除了狗粮，还能闷投资款，级别高一些","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7fd107139518e3291b30","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08daad550d7e72265318","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd107139518e3291b30","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qac39d78e4a389a32f403","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":868,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:58:25.532Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 要证据？你自己去法庭","edited":true,"reply_to":"q13ccf593d90b81c3c00a","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac39d78e4a389a32f403","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q7ad8eac724ca18804a13","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":869,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T00:58:36.964Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］  你拿出证据","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ad8eac724ca18804a13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q9285835e8cbf01caafd3","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":870,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:01:17.262Z","text":"你自己拿证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q516803bfd0e347a65434","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9285835e8cbf01caafd3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q5e48c02765289f32358e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":871,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:01:30.401Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 你自己证明你没错","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e48c02765289f32358e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4a709cc7854ab4f326cc","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":872,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-21T01:01:58.680Z","text":"久违了的鸡血，俺喜欢！🤗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed9c5f99c7e537c69dad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a709cc7854ab4f326cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed9c5f99c7e537c69dad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb1b2abd9b415ea0a27d0","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":873,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:02:18.353Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］  是你要证明 不是我","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1b2abd9b415ea0a27d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qdd6caa03d4b515ef5264","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":874,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:02:34.114Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 你证明你没投几百万","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd6caa03d4b515ef5264","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q420a647f2f65e6e3b895","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":875,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T01:02:38.953Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 这里提到了朱万利\n她在新西兰还是澳洲？\n安红的地盘，那就对的上了\nhttps://x.com/laocong26981282/status/1828419764424974498?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q420a647f2f65e6e3b895","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qa79ec509f12227e5c9bf","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":876,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:03:04.268Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ 你证明","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf1352a341db2da995aba","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa79ec509f12227e5c9bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q5e3483d7a0642f8dead0","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":877,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:03:08.036Z","text":"举证责任在你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e3483d7a0642f8dead0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q8d9ff159d99331da4684","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":878,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:03:57.313Z","text":"当然要你证明","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8e4f24bc121794ab529e","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d9ff159d99331da4684","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb63613f5b9634d50d2a5","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":879,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:04:11.023Z","text":"你要证明我是错的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb63613f5b9634d50d2a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q240a0d0a2d2a7cc43bd1","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":880,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:04:14.937Z","text":"你自己证明啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q240a0d0a2d2a7cc43bd1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q010b92fb0823d97c6190","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":881,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:04:21.669Z","text":"举证责任在你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q010b92fb0823d97c6190","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe30265384b2a9f890dd2","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":882,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:05:24.702Z","text":"哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q420a647f2f65e6e3b895","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe30265384b2a9f890dd2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q420a647f2f65e6e3b895","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q089512a3f0554a6e7e00","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":883,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T01:08:56.348Z","text":"也就是说，从长岛到青藤，其实都是一窝人，演戏","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe30265384b2a9f890dd2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q089512a3f0554a6e7e00","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe30265384b2a9f890dd2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q30dda04f6c0a94591a61","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":884,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T01:09:06.802Z","text":"都不干净，都互有把柄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30dda04f6c0a94591a61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf38bbd6aa973a8f08a7e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":885,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T01:09:27.779Z","text":"但是在闷钱，割韭菜上，利益是一致的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf38bbd6aa973a8f08a7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q0c7f4dcce8812d0ad185","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":886,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T01:09:38.108Z","text":"他们捆绑很深","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf38bbd6aa973a8f08a7e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c7f4dcce8812d0ad185","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf38bbd6aa973a8f08a7e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd026344c6835dc01a763","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":887,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T01:12:45.512Z","text":"反水的话，估计最有可能的是\n长岛 魏 张永兵 草根\n这几个被二巡钉死\n南区不理，案子就卡死","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd026344c6835dc01a763","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe9cc10963c61bfbc7f59","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":888,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T01:17:46.372Z","text":"看样子，似乎Percy在庭审，还去了现场啊\n连座位顺序都知道\nhttps://x.com/percy43508644/status/1798597691125235859?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9cc10963c61bfbc7f59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qff37a6044bcdf74dc384","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":889,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T01:22:18.215Z","text":"就是这么个套路，农场主闷钱，然后和联盟总部商量好，不汇总部账号，和铁血组直接三七分赃\n随后铁血组民事诉讼，给韭菜看\n而这部分钱，没有入账，检方也查不到\n韭菜一问，农场主就说是冻结了\nhttps://x.com/pb5gvqodgdij83s/status/1448679947732721668?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff37a6044bcdf74dc384","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4826426539d64ee40f65","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":890,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-10-21T01:25:43.341Z","text":"北聊就三人组：小皮、Percy、焦丙尚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q420a647f2f65e6e3b895","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4826426539d64ee40f65","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q420a647f2f65e6e3b895","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q71bf3192b4d6b839747b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":891,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T01:27:42.251Z","text":"都是演员","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4826426539d64ee40f65","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71bf3192b4d6b839747b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4826426539d64ee40f65","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q6677f473b2b78128188e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":892,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-21T01:58:59.472Z","text":"有啥不敢的。就看如何切入","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb07575c47ea466d8336","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6677f473b2b78128188e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb07575c47ea466d8336","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q5731c7077cf7b7d21ebe","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":893,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-21T01:59:37.581Z","text":"这份动议发的挺迟的，超过14天还能上传吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60d372c3e75af11e2f95","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5731c7077cf7b7d21ebe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2b8a92b5d6ecca6bed44","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":894,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T02:26:52.712Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］ \n这个截图的日期，2021\n那时候，接下来刑事案的局，基本已经做好了\n我倒是觉得，目前看，闷钱，对他们来说是命门，因为案子已经量刑，项目也是有罪\n闷钱的事，检方和他们都掩盖，但是对案子的量刑和涉案金额，都是冲击","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b8a92b5d6ecca6bed44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q55908c5864bda13a0e58","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":895,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T02:31:59.584Z","text":"没超过： 14内发发的有坯瑕，这个是改正的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5731c7077cf7b7d21ebe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55908c5864bda13a0e58","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5731c7077cf7b7d21ebe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q9e77b88b8a80e8f7973e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":896,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T02:35:24.837Z","text":"这个关于GTV投资私下的后续，处理很可能和韩国哈恩说的类似，联盟介入，然后和被告（cosmo/屁酱），当地国检方（韩国/法国）达成和解\n韭菜问屁酱要钱，就说去了总部，总部说没收到，让找屁酱，最后就是死局\n韭菜也不敢单独起诉皮匠，因为会被打成伪类，更拿不到钱\nhttps://x.com/pb5gvqodgdij83s/status/1535015361845813271?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e77b88b8a80e8f7973e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q9be433922a442d100404","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":897,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T02:52:24.239Z","text":"farm loan，按长岛说法，农场收到钱，汇给ACA capital，还有一部分，去了maywind\nmaywind并没有出现在起诉书，或者没收清单\nhttps://x.com/pb5gvqodgdij83s/status/1641217613509345280?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9be433922a442d100404","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2dff63e49fcfdff217da","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":898,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T03:04:23.018Z","text":"这个投GTv的，就倒霉了\n经过应该是，6笔钱汇到的账户，是魏管理\n后来联盟要求退款，魏并没有执行，闷了\n不知道后来有没有申请sec公平基金退款\nhttps://x.com/pb5gvqodgdij83s/status/1389243150519177218?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dff63e49fcfdff217da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd6ecd0fdb993e19e419e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":899,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T03:16:17.714Z","text":"汇款给maywind 的，基本上是个人直接向maywind 账户汇款，因为农场借贷，魏有之前vog的经验，割韭菜行动最快，初期很多农场都是用的maywind ，让农场会员向maywind 账户汇款。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9be433922a442d100404","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6ecd0fdb993e19e419e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9be433922a442d100404","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb2a9e23a3b1d15d4c590","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":900,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T03:21:04.027Z","text":"单独汇给maywind，都没有拿回来\n委托给长岛的400w也是被骗\n法庭文件已经显示，长岛只有MOS.LLC汇给maywind 455w的代理权\n这和他后来通过maywind/Aeon/medical supply拿回1200w，是两码事","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd6ecd0fdb993e19e419e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2a9e23a3b1d15d4c590","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6ecd0fdb993e19e419e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qffa3777c775a8e93f345","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":901,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T03:24:23.973Z","text":"夏把它自己农场的钱汇给maywind,不知道是什么操作？我不记得当时郭有说转给魏才算成功参加借贷项目。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2a9e23a3b1d15d4c590","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffa3777c775a8e93f345","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2a9e23a3b1d15d4c590","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q014b634642fb95fdcb1f","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":902,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T03:26:32.454Z","text":"应该是收到后，该做什么，可以做什么，按照合同约定进行。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q014b634642fb95fdcb1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q670d24a4b0e77fddf849","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":903,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T03:26:48.429Z","text":"估计是这样，借贷一开始，农场都是统一汇maywind\n后来又汇ACA capital","edited":false,"reply_to":"qffa3777c775a8e93f345","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q670d24a4b0e77fddf849","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffa3777c775a8e93f345","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q6b2693c27a69ab2a09b0","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":904,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T03:28:25.155Z","text":"那夏的农场汇过去的，是通过对敲等方式收的香草山农场的会员的钱？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q670d24a4b0e77fddf849","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b2693c27a69ab2a09b0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q670d24a4b0e77fddf849","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf0920c2532704e9eda13","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":905,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T03:29:03.468Z","text":"不然那些人应该直接给maywind账号汇。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0920c2532704e9eda13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qbd5722757475d2f84faa","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":906,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T03:29:29.737Z","text":"对的，应该是这样\n没办法直接电汇的，比如墙内投资\n先对敲到农场，再统一给maywind","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b2693c27a69ab2a09b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd5722757475d2f84faa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b2693c27a69ab2a09b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q42a18f95e6415cc57e3f","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":907,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T03:29:52.638Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/2112748130366300504?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42a18f95e6415cc57e3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q56b06925c1ba8899aad4","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":908,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T03:32:06.634Z","text":"这个是青联盟付费的群演吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42a18f95e6415cc57e3f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56b06925c1ba8899aad4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42a18f95e6415cc57e3f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q371fc57f4147f50b96e2","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":909,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T03:34:11.427Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q56b06925c1ba8899aad4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q371fc57f4147f50b96e2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56b06925c1ba8899aad4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qcb0d27a21b82f7c653d8","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":910,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T03:38:05.248Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ GTV最终涉案金额4.1亿，怕是把Sara 的VOG剪掉了\n同理，借贷这块，没有看到maywind，起诉书和没收清单，都没有，这部分，似乎是压根没有提","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb0d27a21b82f7c653d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb1112de9f4c1550207fc","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":911,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T03:43:12.813Z","text":"长岛诉maywind关于借贷的官司，这笔钱，至少455w，是maywind承认闷了并退款\n这部分借贷，没有进ACA capital，也不在检方的flowchart，必须解决，因为影响案子的总涉案金额，和郭的金钱判决","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1112de9f4c1550207fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qfcdc2344b80a17cc32bd","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":912,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T03:48:10.778Z","text":"魏来刑事案，当污点证人，目的是给她自己洗白，她也成了受害者\n这个角色，她2021年就知道了，所以闷钱很心安理得，知道会有人兜底","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcdc2344b80a17cc32bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qfc32077f391ca26fe766","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":913,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T03:51:49.890Z","text":"她的不起诉协议，包括VOG(GTV相关）和maywind（借贷相关）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc32077f391ca26fe766","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q9d8667ced11c97ecb865","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":914,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T03:59:09.822Z","text":"1）没有人知道到底有多少投资人的钱，直接汇给了Maywind，Maywind 有几个帐号？一个Maywind 可以在不同的银行开帐号 n个账户 2）检方起诉书里面包括它吗？3）给陪审团证据里面包括它吗 3） 检方量刑文件里有它吗 4） 托雷斯量刑的数字里有吗？\n\n联盟的管账的， 如水肯定有账目， 如果这些人7哥7哥的叫，又去看7哥， 怎么不出来/上法庭澄清这些账目呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb1112de9f4c1550207fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d8667ced11c97ecb865","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1112de9f4c1550207fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc7e49936f46dc4adc762","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":915,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:00:20.049Z","text":"我有借款汇给了Maywind， 并且已经对完账了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7e49936f46dc4adc762","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q576e3aa48dfc8a17eba9","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":916,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T04:01:36.338Z","text":"这个受害者完全就是搞笑的。钱到了什么地方才算受害者？只要到农场就算受害者，那农场的管理层自己投钱然后侵占挪用转走农场会员的钱，也算到郭头上然后自己成受害者，更荒诞的是，有些根本就没有投钱，纯纯的诈骗犯美国政府都可以把它包装成受害者。那些办案的美国人，共产党没拿着枪顶着你让你这么办案把！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfcdc2344b80a17cc32bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q576e3aa48dfc8a17eba9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcdc2344b80a17cc32bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q236a90f13343307247ff","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":917,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:04:44.971Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 858里，托雷斯是不是说过，很多投资者，并没有意识到，他自己也是受害者🤣 🤣 🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"q576e3aa48dfc8a17eba9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q236a90f13343307247ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q576e3aa48dfc8a17eba9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qfd9a32d167e4b52514f9","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":918,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:06:27.024Z","text":"把maywind当成一个资金管理公司，类似ACA  capital，就容易理解了\n原本是借贷的钱放在maywind，但是后来发生的是，这里的钱被魏，拿去自己用了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d8667ced11c97ecb865","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd9a32d167e4b52514f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d8667ced11c97ecb865","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe9957c3ea2c9321a7058","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":919,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T04:06:42.280Z","text":"是受害者没错，但施害者没捋清楚就不行。在施害者没捋清楚之前，先当信托当受益权所有者。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q236a90f13343307247ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9957c3ea2c9321a7058","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q236a90f13343307247ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qfeca63f3d54a85f8506a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":920,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:07:03.658Z","text":"受害者框架 - 第三方在二巡打了： 螺丝， Tony， 安娜， Jo","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfeca63f3d54a85f8506a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q57b673a6ed906d3e60ee","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":921,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:07:30.632Z","text":"所有的前提是RICO","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9957c3ea2c9321a7058","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57b673a6ed906d3e60ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9957c3ea2c9321a7058","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2a6f9265ec2313e51fce","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":922,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:08:16.615Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 起诉书，那个flowchart，都没有maywind\n倒是ACA capital 是central transfer\nmaywind的地位，应该也是这个\n魏的不起诉协议，应该是涵盖maywind","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfd9a32d167e4b52514f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a6f9265ec2313e51fce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd9a32d167e4b52514f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc9df28758889541ce45c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":923,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T04:09:18.650Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 安娜说 检方只承认五个人是老郭支持者 因为他们在二巡打检方 她没在二巡打检方 所以成不了老郭支持者 哈哈哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfeca63f3d54a85f8506a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9df28758889541ce45c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfeca63f3d54a85f8506a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qae9c4baa4982fe5b58e3","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":924,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:10:05.948Z","text":"这就是检方不讲理的地方了🤣 🤣 🤣\n其他共谋，就是不理","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9957c3ea2c9321a7058","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae9c4baa4982fe5b58e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9957c3ea2c9321a7058","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb2daa56a45428f39c1ba","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":925,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:10:37.930Z","text":"也就是说， 检方把Maywind里的借款，说成了转给ACA CAPITAL》给郭个人家人用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2daa56a45428f39c1ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q8446047dd534473cd148","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":926,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:11:06.345Z","text":"这里，检方可以教魏，这么说\n这样魏可以脱罪\n检方也会配合，选择性不披露maywind细节","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2daa56a45428f39c1ba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8446047dd534473cd148","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2daa56a45428f39c1ba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf2fe285f72b2e6151e2d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":927,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T04:11:23.179Z","text":"用个rico，把美国政府的信用和美国地区法院的信用加上，还是忽悠不了几个人。现在不管什么方式体现的受害者，是那种真心投资并且真心认为自己被郭文贵先生骗的人，应该不超过10个，甚至一个都没有。因为它们做假，也做的太差了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q57b673a6ed906d3e60ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2fe285f72b2e6151e2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57b673a6ed906d3e60ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2ae15ef9da1d32de432a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":928,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:13:02.498Z","text":"夹子音叫床湿李娅就是“受害者”。 并且是让陪审团给郭定罪的证人之一","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2fe285f72b2e6151e2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae15ef9da1d32de432a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2fe285f72b2e6151e2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qedb5cc871ce9239830b6","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":929,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T04:14:45.752Z","text":"谁说的 我就是之一 我不承认被骗 怎么打爆托雷斯？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2fe285f72b2e6151e2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedb5cc871ce9239830b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2fe285f72b2e6151e2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4065a881c10520bb76a5","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":930,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T04:15:19.489Z","text":"如果把诈骗联盟该抓的抓了，留两个当污点证人，钱全部追回来，我相信很多人可能真的会认为被郭文贵骗了，你它马勒戈壁的这么玩，该抓的人不抓，钱也不去追，还要歧视人说被洗脑！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2fe285f72b2e6151e2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4065a881c10520bb76a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2fe285f72b2e6151e2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf600b0e2350bdcaed572","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":931,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:15:26.320Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ \n魏指认，maywind的借贷，随后也按郭要求，汇给ACA capital（实际可能只有部分，大头被她闷）\n检方采纳，同时不起诉maywind（参考木兰庭审，不起诉涵盖她自己的ANA公司）","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8446047dd534473cd148","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf600b0e2350bdcaed572","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8446047dd534473cd148","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qba626addcc08591960c9","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":932,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:17:21.511Z","text":"对于魏闷钱的事，检方选择性装瞎，不提，当没发生过","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba626addcc08591960c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q842aec5292e0b0e9e3de","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":933,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T04:18:06.816Z","text":"别人想相信你美国政府也不会相信。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4065a881c10520bb76a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q842aec5292e0b0e9e3de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4065a881c10520bb76a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q28e6049193686cfcb044","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":934,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:19:30.015Z","text":"检方最初的意思是没收\n这个局要成，就必须有300骨干配合\n检方证人，受害者，辩方证人，受害者陈述，都需要人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4065a881c10520bb76a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28e6049193686cfcb044","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4065a881c10520bb76a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q76b8cbd25375c249b399","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":935,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:22:02.767Z","text":"演成了，破产案债权人PAG分14亿大头，检方估计能捞不少\n300骨干，主要留住前期的闷钱，分部分奖金","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76b8cbd25375c249b399","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q0f12655ce71d1be7ed0a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":936,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:22:33.031Z","text":"都抓了，这个局做不起来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f12655ce71d1be7ed0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc5e48c1e3df35a80b5c9","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":937,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:22:34.212Z","text":"说明9指做了假证","edited":false,"reply_to":"qba626addcc08591960c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5e48c1e3df35a80b5c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba626addcc08591960c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc167f8e7665f09cc6895","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":938,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:22:47.948Z","text":"就是这个意思\n现在长岛和maywind和解的这个官司，出事了\nmaywind既然退款，那就是承认闷钱，而这455w在庭审，找不到","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5e48c1e3df35a80b5c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc167f8e7665f09cc6895","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5e48c1e3df35a80b5c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q523c8c256c78ad14d138","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":939,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:24:02.933Z","text":"9指的证词 说把钱汇给了ACA Capital 是哪个文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q523c8c256c78ad14d138","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb17dacab5faf6fa5e977","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":940,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:24:50.862Z","text":"不是文件，但有一个截图，我之前发过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q523c8c256c78ad14d138","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb17dacab5faf6fa5e977","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q523c8c256c78ad14d138","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd8838dc38f7b4b2a3eb3","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":941,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:25:31.791Z","text":"这个截图在法庭文件中出现过吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8838dc38f7b4b2a3eb3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe29dddaa45a75317429d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":942,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:26:38.180Z","text":"没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8838dc38f7b4b2a3eb3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe29dddaa45a75317429d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8838dc38f7b4b2a3eb3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q249ecf695e41e499ad86","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":943,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T04:27:02.561Z","text":"它们是否像凯尔巴斯那样当了政府的未出庭证人，这个无法确认，但很可能有。但它们的陈述，因为共谋身份而作为传闻证据例外，在文件382和文件388里。382是政府主张，388是法院确认。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q523c8c256c78ad14d138","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q249ecf695e41e499ad86","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q523c8c256c78ad14d138","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb9290e1e4984729d505c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":944,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:27:12.249Z","text":"我一直在拖 拖 拖的准备这个农场借款法律文件 - 就是觉得乱糟糟一团团的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9290e1e4984729d505c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q10c24a826ecb4402a5b3","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":945,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:28:46.754Z","text":"［用户 beg***］\nmaywind好几个收款账户","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd4e1c7b4fc557c8e0931","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10c24a826ecb4402a5b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe3fbf9cdc6959e67a815","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":946,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:33:39.904Z","text":"有个图，我需要找一下 ［用户 beg***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3fbf9cdc6959e67a815","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q33d0affaf5e8dae7bd4a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":947,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T04:37:40.694Z","text":"VOG本就涉案GTV，但没有出现在起诉，或者没收清单\n同理，郭在700提到，魏，长岛，Bass那里有钱共1亿\n检方不追，除了协议，没有其他合理解释","edited":false,"reply_to":"q249ecf695e41e499ad86","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33d0affaf5e8dae7bd4a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q249ecf695e41e499ad86","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q22935e429a0122a87356","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":948,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:42:09.325Z","text":"另外， 检察官 二巡联系人 不是Nathan Rehn 了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22935e429a0122a87356","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2fc4f2497263be9ceaa3","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":949,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T04:50:01.010Z","text":"新换的人是不是那三个办案人员之一？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22935e429a0122a87356","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fc4f2497263be9ceaa3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22935e429a0122a87356","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q89c01e8632a490ff3d73","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":950,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:50:08.969Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89c01e8632a490ff3d73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q671e6c17081fca36af34","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":951,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:50:37.650Z","text":"我电脑关了。明天给你们","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q671e6c17081fca36af34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q63139448b8996c0f5b78","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":952,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T04:51:07.763Z","text":"难不成完成任务后，组织上安排了更好的差事。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63139448b8996c0f5b78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1b6ad2e37fbf50f9dc3d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":953,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:56:41.938Z","text":"Nathan Rehn 表面上的角色是 收集第三方发给二巡的法庭文件。其他时间没出现过","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b6ad2e37fbf50f9dc3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf12e20a1acb0b118af5c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":954,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:57:44.484Z","text":"司法部也在清洗， 换了 或者辞职了一大批人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf12e20a1acb0b118af5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q283bdbe4d06f7e49fd4a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":955,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T04:58:54.971Z","text":"好像是一下子光一个civil right division 就辞职了400 多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q283bdbe4d06f7e49fd4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe66b9ae4d27789df752e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":956,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T05:01:18.263Z","text":"老郭这个案子 美国司法历史上没有过： 300 多骨干 RICO各个都是犯罪分子 指控一个无辜的人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe66b9ae4d27789df752e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qe24d3d21eca5113ad13c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":957,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T05:02:12.058Z","text":"RICO 这个指控好像是很难搞掉， 因为真的是有合谋犯罪。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe24d3d21eca5113ad13c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q3d5bb333e98f1c72fc7a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":958,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T05:03:11.668Z","text":"https://x.com/pb5gvqodgdij83s/status/1428415883777609732?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d5bb333e98f1c72fc7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q89269c8c35ab6935ee5e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":959,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T05:06:49.464Z","text":"在美国， 凭一个在网上注册的公司， 就可以在任何一个银行开户，比如， 美国西雅图有15家不同的银行， 拿那张公司纸，可以开至少15个帐号","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89269c8c35ab6935ee5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q6870934b56aab0e0d088","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":960,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-21T05:07:27.358Z","text":"每个二巡卷宗都有这个消息","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22935e429a0122a87356","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6870934b56aab0e0d088","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22935e429a0122a87356","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q648e2029eda9deb5e6d4","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":961,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T05:07:33.890Z","text":"https://x.com/percy43508644/status/1365059472884981772?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q648e2029eda9deb5e6d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q791a466cb5f968f622fa","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":962,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T05:10:21.264Z","text":"61-46 =15 million","edited":false,"reply_to":"q648e2029eda9deb5e6d4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q791a466cb5f968f622fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q648e2029eda9deb5e6d4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q077d43e94955d1cfcb58","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":963,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T05:10:44.709Z","text":"两个一起看，就是VOG 1.17亿，给郭6100w，Sara闷4600w","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q077d43e94955d1cfcb58","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4e965b2ee79273cb9240","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":964,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T05:11:55.126Z","text":"胆子真大 - 信上帝的sara 姐","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e965b2ee79273cb9240","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q14f6f51c0024968ae005","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":965,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T05:13:02.218Z","text":"这还只是VOG","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14f6f51c0024968ae005","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q6e7e83ac01a456acd14a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":966,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T05:13:09.942Z","text":"借贷闷了多少 maywind","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e7e83ac01a456acd14a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qb8c551f3e6eeb8dc5eda","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":967,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T05:13:20.523Z","text":"1.17 -1.07 = 1千万 不知去向","edited":false,"reply_to":"q077d43e94955d1cfcb58","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8c551f3e6eeb8dc5eda","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q077d43e94955d1cfcb58","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc61737a7e83952d025c0","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":968,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T05:14:12.996Z","text":"46+61=1.07","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc61737a7e83952d025c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc26387f13ae1c77999f2","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":969,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T05:15:40.900Z","text":"VOG并不在这个刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc26387f13ae1c77999f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1aac8fb3261d171ff75b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":970,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T05:15:57.893Z","text":"或者说是，不起诉协议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1aac8fb3261d171ff75b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qc463cbfd83b300bf2087","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":971,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T05:16:19.091Z","text":"那么钱在不在SEC？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc463cbfd83b300bf2087","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q707a39f11fc6ad4b7b3a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":972,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T05:21:49.275Z","text":"不在","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc463cbfd83b300bf2087","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q707a39f11fc6ad4b7b3a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc463cbfd83b300bf2087","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qaffa7bd72639eea6c1e5","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":973,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T05:21:55.138Z","text":"4600w在Sara那\n6100w在G fashion","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaffa7bd72639eea6c1e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q3527e8cd96148d74787b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":974,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T05:38:24.680Z","text":"这还只是VOG\nmaywind闷农场借贷，按长岛起诉的时候，要求的是快9000w，也就是所有农场汇给maywind的总和\n最后目前看得到的，就是长岛收到大概1200w退款，而剩余的，应该都还在maywind/Aeon/medical supply\nmaywind汇多少给ACA capital，也不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3527e8cd96148d74787b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q395e0515ae0b52027f2e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":975,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T06:53:58.574Z","text":"笑死，这是，自己人也骗🤣 🤣 🤣 \nhttps://x.com/tiandao7777/status/2041235701870588188?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q395e0515ae0b52027f2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q0fc6b8c81323c66de252","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":976,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-21T06:57:25.502Z","text":"不得给律师点时间吗？他还没出手，不知道敌友","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb07575c47ea466d8336","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fc6b8c81323c66de252","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb07575c47ea466d8336","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qfd73a277526fc3ab6b8c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":977,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T06:57:56.672Z","text":"这个公平基金退款，怕是委托给了张\n然后就被闷了\nhttps://x.com/tiandao7777/status/2041233086629736934?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd73a277526fc3ab6b8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q9dc49d357327f1148f82","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":978,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-21T06:58:19.539Z","text":"应该是针对以前的三波律师吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0fc6b8c81323c66de252","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dc49d357327f1148f82","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fc6b8c81323c66de252","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q68ecd14b33adf4f47651","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":979,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-21T07:01:08.662Z","text":"是，但是上诉律师提更直接有效","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9dc49d357327f1148f82","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68ecd14b33adf4f47651","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dc49d357327f1148f82","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q1272fe4c986f48326f3b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":980,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-21T07:02:07.516Z","text":"如果上诉律师真干活，咱们打配合就够了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1272fe4c986f48326f3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q116a77ffb84eaa1206cb","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":981,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T07:03:41.643Z","text":"这个重点就是，长岛诉maywind，代理权就只有它香草山的455w，其他人委托给他的400w，长岛没有资格代理，庭审也说了\n本只能要回455w，后来魏几个公司，一起给了1200w\n多的800w，算感谢费，一是长岛替魏解围诉讼，二是维稳了韭菜\nhttps://x.com/tiandao7777/status/2048337340892946853?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q116a77ffb84eaa1206cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qf17719bd2736995d004a","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":982,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T07:07:21.850Z","text":"不知道在夏诉魏的案子还是在南区这边的庭审中有，好像才转了两千多万。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3527e8cd96148d74787b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf17719bd2736995d004a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3527e8cd96148d74787b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q782b28b4360ae31d2b83","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":983,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-21T07:07:47.645Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 强制令还在","edited":true,"reply_to":"q65ebdce7fbb3165b935f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q782b28b4360ae31d2b83","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65ebdce7fbb3165b935f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q0d62f5a2e0e2500f5776","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":984,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-21T07:09:48.222Z","text":"你让我突然想起一个人，叫什么[删节：成员身份]？也是特能挖料，隐身很久了，不会就是你吧？😆","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd8db11ac8c4253d2d65f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d62f5a2e0e2500f5776","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8db11ac8c4253d2d65f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q80b9a8b181731c52c2e3","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":985,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T07:13:01.648Z","text":"就是转给ACA capital小头，闷大头","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf17719bd2736995d004a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80b9a8b181731c52c2e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf17719bd2736995d004a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q465670a02857108c96ee","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":986,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T07:13:11.025Z","text":"两码事 那个[删节：成员身份]怕也是潜伏带风向的","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0d62f5a2e0e2500f5776","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q465670a02857108c96ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d62f5a2e0e2500f5776","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q2fec9d33101cf4725d92","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":987,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T07:14:22.328Z","text":"这个[屏蔽词]，把钱转给了个人账户，还不是农场指定账户，这不就肯定被闷\nhttps://x.com/tiandao7777/status/2037545813245579367?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fec9d33101cf4725d92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qd58ebd28d23a757cfe9f","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":988,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T07:25:58.647Z","text":"又是一个转个人账户的，大多是借贷项目\n农场主有没有转给总部，就是问题了\nhttps://x.com/tiandao7777/status/2041130405500235948?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd58ebd28d23a757cfe9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qad54cda6808467d8b6cf","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":989,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-21T07:30:43.160Z","text":"焦是谁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4826426539d64ee40f65","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad54cda6808467d8b6cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4826426539d64ee40f65","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qde911ec0339fff90febb","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":990,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-21T07:32:29.155Z","text":"这些人现在看来可能是最早明白过来的人，跟灭爆砸锅不是一伙人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b8a92b5d6ecca6bed44","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde911ec0339fff90febb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b8a92b5d6ecca6bed44","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q08b2e9c2029869da7800","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":991,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T07:32:43.608Z","text":"现在看来，写受害者自诉的，也是被青联盟给利用了\nhttps://x.com/tiandao7777/status/2038615035753136383?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08b2e9c2029869da7800","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q96f8e7aee10a72331035","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":992,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-21T07:41:15.896Z","text":"https://x.com/quan_tian777/status/2112697084424135029?s=12 这个图太他妈形象了，韭菜军团","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96f8e7aee10a72331035","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q6acd7950ea2dd77c85c9","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":993,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-21T08:12:18.615Z","text":"那个什么dc农场的农场主，网名阿炳。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qad54cda6808467d8b6cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6acd7950ea2dd77c85c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad54cda6808467d8b6cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q5586f82955eb8ac1af59","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":994,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T12:34:56.004Z","text":"这意思很明显了，在喊话习\n要用郭牢底座穿，换300骨干\n喜国就是海外情报网，墙内不管谁斗赢，都用得着，还会发币割韭菜，自给自足，省钱\n见过不要脸，没见过这么不要脸的，[屏蔽词]直播，推销自己，活好不粘人\nhttps://x.com/q_may_007/status/2112879012749951206?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5586f82955eb8ac1af59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q6d2b40df5cad12fcc776","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":995,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T12:41:02.775Z","text":"不管习赢不赢，园区他肯定要推平\n［用户 hah***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q65b8820aab4f262269fa","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d2b40df5cad12fcc776","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q84a165ca3b9956bd3fc7","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":996,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T12:48:42.987Z","text":"诈骗园区的存在是中国人的悲哀。如果习能够铲除园区，也算是做了好事。但是要解决人生存的根本问题： 人们活着，需要工作吃饭生活，如果这些基本的都没有，在绝望中只能抓稻草，不放过一线希望， 导致大学生等跳入火海。灭共是唯一的出路。老郭是唯一能灭共的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d2b40df5cad12fcc776","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84a165ca3b9956bd3fc7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d2b40df5cad12fcc776","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qcc3c57c71a1679265507","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":997,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-21T12:50:40.489Z","text":"在园区是很悲哀的事啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc3c57c71a1679265507","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"qbf2f2f2cb0c71f57023c","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":998,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-21T14:02:59.733Z","text":"退款重新投资🤣 🤣 🤣 \n从一个火坑出来，跳进另一个火坑\nhttps://x.com/percy43508644/status/1584598832708734976?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf2f2f2cb0c71f57023c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q4ed88bcda013d73fe88b","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":999,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-10-21T14:04:06.572Z","text":"诈骗园区是2012年启动的一贷一撸的核心项目之一，开始就是军队警察和有身份的华人和当地人参与的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q84a165ca3b9956bd3fc7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ed88bcda013d73fe88b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84a165ca3b9956bd3fc7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"},{"id":"q6ae91b816c0abb654535","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":1000,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-10-21T14:07:00.604Z","text":"阿丙","edited":false,"reply_to":"qad54cda6808467d8b6cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ae91b816c0abb654535","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad54cda6808467d8b6cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000163","next_batch_id":"batch-000165"}