{"id":"batch-000165","number":165,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-10-22T02:52:32.841Z","date_end":"2026-10-29T16:22:06.610Z","total_messages":1037,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 165 (Oct 22, 2026 – Oct 29, 2026), 1,037 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants discuss disputed accounts of VOG, Maywind and farm lending funds, including transfers, frozen assets, refunds and investor representation. They question victim identification and distinguish a money judgment from property actually controlled by the government. They also debate procedural requirements under 853(n), CVRA and Rule 32, and the prospects for overturning decisions. Other discussions concern GETTR ownership, alleged disclosure of investor information, prosecutorial discretion and possible political influence; ECF 716-4 and ruling 858 are referenced.","guide_en":[{"title":"VOG and Maywind funds, freezes and refunds","description":"Participants dispute where funds went and which investors can seek refunds.","message_ids":["q386bde7e322e19eb16ea","qcd687c6197597273b4b6","qf25c41f495aab200950c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q386bde7e322e19eb16ea","summary_en":"joh*** estimates that only $10 million of VOG funds was effectively frozen after transfers and a $46 million check."},{"message_id":"qcd687c6197597273b4b6","summary_en":"joh*** contends that investors awaiting refunds through VOG or Sara could pursue Wei."},{"message_id":"qf25c41f495aab200950c","summary_en":"joh*** argues that $46 million remained on VOG's books for civil refunds after a $64 million transfer, but refunds were delayed."}]},{"title":"Lending funds, the $46 million check and farm loans","description":"A participant questions amounts and the treatment of farm lending funds.","message_ids":["q36aa557aeb57df474bda","q3fb8f619c37668d98fe9","q5a4e3dbb3384e3e371af"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q36aa557aeb57df474bda","summary_en":"beg*** questions whether a reported $89 million transfer accounted for all farm loan funds."},{"message_id":"q3fb8f619c37668d98fe9","summary_en":"beg*** asks for the source of the $117 million figure."},{"message_id":"q5a4e3dbb3384e3e371af","summary_en":"beg*** asks why farm loan funds were not seized if prosecutors considered the enterprise a criminal organization."}]},{"title":"Civil litigation, investor representation and recovery","description":"A participant challenges representation and discusses limits on recovery.","message_ids":["q74585c9cfad167dc2ac1","q534599cf7b6cd11adccc","qa4e6352dbb9976a1a321"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q74585c9cfad167dc2ac1","summary_en":"joh*** alleges withheld Maywind loan funds and contends that $4 million entrusted by other investors was excluded from refunds."},{"message_id":"q534599cf7b6cd11adccc","summary_en":"joh*** disputes Long Island's eligibility to represent farm loan investors and alleges inadequate disclosure."},{"message_id":"qa4e6352dbb9976a1a321","summary_en":"joh*** describes him***'s view that private claimants can pursue distribution under 853(n) but cannot challenge funds prosecutors did not seize."}]},{"title":"Money judgments, frozen assets and third-party interests","description":"Participants distinguish the judgment from forfeited property and third-party claims.","message_ids":["qec2f8d1f0109e073f8c2","q9789c382dad8719cb179","q82572c24a0c8d3d58bb0"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qec2f8d1f0109e073f8c2","summary_en":"kir*** asks whether the $889 million includes Mahwah and a settlement with Luc exceeding $100 million."},{"message_id":"q9789c382dad8719cb179","summary_en":"kir*** says the property is included in forfeiture but is unsure whether it is included in the money judgment."},{"message_id":"q82572c24a0c8d3d58bb0","summary_en":"reb*** argues that the $889 million judgment differs from assets actually controlled by the government and disputes the treatment of third-party interests under 858."}]},{"title":"Victim identification, losses and Fair Fund refunds","description":"Participants question victim statements, appeal prospects and refund accounting.","message_ids":["q5543e6c23b8e4f173b05","q192fdbfad10b582ade7a","q603114069565a94e98c2"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5543e6c23b8e4f173b05","summary_en":"joh*** questions the authenticity of victim statements in Wang's case and alleges misuse of investor details."},{"message_id":"q192fdbfad10b582ade7a","summary_en":"sar*** predicts that the Second Circuit will hear private claimants but ultimately reject their claims."},{"message_id":"q603114069565a94e98c2","summary_en":"joh*** asks whether GTV Fair Fund refunds should be deducted from the $1.4 billion involved."}]},{"title":"Procedure under 853(n), 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unfairness."},{"message_id":"q1f858c0ce8e360bfd0f1","summary_en":"kir*** contends that the Second Circuit mentioned a participant to support overturning the case."},{"message_id":"q4f4db26a7627587786a9","summary_en":"kir*** asks how many people filed motions to vacate and how many sought dismissal."}]},{"title":"AAA and Nivora disclosure proceedings and GETTR ownership","description":"A participant describes court proceedings and assesses ownership evidence.","message_ids":["q9d15623c87db13818114","q2f4eb82f4e1c70e09cca","q0139587a3d850565d858"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9d15623c87db13818114","summary_en":"roy*** describes 2026 ONSC 2943 and 2026 ONSC 5735, case 420/26 ML, as rejecting special disclosure and leave to appeal without deciding the underlying claims."},{"message_id":"q2f4eb82f4e1c70e09cca","summary_en":"roy*** argues that available evidence supports continued operation by GETTR USA, Inc. and does not establish a transfer to a new company."},{"message_id":"q0139587a3d850565d858","summary_en":"roy*** cites ECF 716-4 as evidence that Hamilton held 95% of GETTR while cautioning that it does not establish ultimate control."}]},{"title":"Platform operations, GETTR coin data and G Fashion","description":"Participants question platform transactions and G Fashion's treatment.","message_ids":["q99ad55b05ca549e09dd1","q86d9bbc524b2c7190a56","qebcf74fc105db12885e1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q99ad55b05ca549e09dd1","summary_en":"reb*** alleges that earlier GETTR coin data was deleted and funds were transferred again."},{"message_id":"q86d9bbc524b2c7190a56","summary_en":"joh*** asks whether Hamilton's ownership explains GETTR's continued operation despite some funds being taken."},{"message_id":"qebcf74fc105db12885e1","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that G Fashion changed its name after receiving loan funds and questions its absence from charges and the forfeiture list."}]},{"title":"Alleged disclosure of investor 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alliance farms interfered with judicial proceedings."},{"message_id":"q510603dcb37c510ba8a9","summary_en":"beg*** describes 858 as saying the government can decide which assets to forfeit."},{"message_id":"qa92278b1f949fedbacbe","summary_en":"ntp*** speculates that people are waiting for the midterm elections."}]}],"summary":"讨论主要围绕涉案资金、投资者权益和司法程序展开。参与者对VOG、Maywind及农场借贷资金的流向、冻结状态和退款范围有不同说法，也追问支票金额、民事和解及代理资格的证据。有人质疑受害者认定和授权人数，另有讨论关注投资损失、股东权利及资金追索路径。关于司法程序，参与者区分金钱判决、实际冻结资产与第三方权益，并争论853(n)、CVRA和Rule 32的适用次序；对二巡文件、第三方动议及翻案前景亦有不同解读。其他话题包括平台运营与股权证据、个人信息疑遭泄露、检方起诉范围，以及政治因素可能产生的影响；其中一些说法和推测的真实性仍有争议。","guide":[{"title":"VOG、Maywind资金去向、冻结状态与退款范围","message_ids":["q386bde7e322e19eb16ea","qcd687c6197597273b4b6","qf25c41f495aab200950c"]},{"title":"借贷资金、4600万美元支票与农场借款：金额和证据争议","message_ids":["q36aa557aeb57df474bda","q3fb8f619c37668d98fe9","q5a4e3dbb3384e3e371af"]},{"title":"民事和解、投资者代理资格与追索路径","message_ids":["q74585c9cfad167dc2ac1","q534599cf7b6cd11adccc","qa4e6352dbb9976a1a321"]},{"title":"金钱判决、冻结资产及第三方权益如何区分","message_ids":["qec2f8d1f0109e073f8c2","q9789c382dad8719cb179","q82572c24a0c8d3d58bb0"]},{"title":"受害者认定、投资者损失与公平基金退款","message_ids":["q5543e6c23b8e4f173b05","q192fdbfad10b582ade7a","q603114069565a94e98c2"]},{"title":"853(n)、CVRA与Rule 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joh***］  就搞冻结这一手 直接把共产党拉上法庭","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6a6acc7c7181a0ccd34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qef0430d6b8de94fe0ac8","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":2,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-22T02:52:58.437Z","text":"这帮骗子不知道自己干了什么蠢事 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef0430d6b8de94fe0ac8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q386bde7e322e19eb16ea","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":3,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T02:53:50.649Z","text":"同理，VOG涉案1.17亿，6400w转给gfashion，4600w支票在魏手里，而sec说冻结，估计执行的，只有剩下的那1000w\n魏在公告说，钱款被冻结，会逐步退款，这是在拖，而且执行范围，只有那1000w","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3621040dbad0acd830d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q386bde7e322e19eb16ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3621040dbad0acd830d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q74585c9cfad167dc2ac1","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":4,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T02:56:29.594Z","text":"魏来刑事案，肯定做了伪证，关于VOG（GTV）和maywind（借贷）这块。她是要用刑事案，不起诉协议，把自己闷钱洗白\n长岛与maywind的诉讼，做实maywind闷借贷，至少455w，这笔钱，要重新添加进借贷项目的涉案金额，anti量刑\n香草山以外的借贷投资者，委托给长岛的400w，并不在退回的1200w以内，这批人被长岛与魏，合伙骗了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74585c9cfad167dc2ac1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qd7bc9c6941342a8f9c5c","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":5,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-22T03:13:26.559Z","text":"这个地方，就是郭接招的原因。它知道你共产党想干什么，然后就用那些鬼，那些鬼，变成人，是他更大的胜利，变不成人，它们的行为会变成共产党的行为留在美国司法记录里。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7bc9c6941342a8f9c5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q0a12285b5a113e397c1b","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":6,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-22T03:14:25.863Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  这个案子源于农场主主动举报闷钱 被骗的被忽悠报案 联盟渗透律师不作为 结果导致那些在中国被抓被判的人 被拽上美国法庭  你觉得共产党会不会饶了他们","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a12285b5a113e397c1b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q362074a630b03daec280","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":7,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-22T03:14:27.951Z","text":"确实是这招","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd7bc9c6941342a8f9c5c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q362074a630b03daec280","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7bc9c6941342a8f9c5c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qadb74ca881c081d81d25","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":8,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-22T03:14:46.411Z","text":"共产党从魏出事开始，知道这些烂人会坏事，但还是只能按着计划推进。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadb74ca881c081d81d25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q302a63303652c340dae1","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":9,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-22T03:14:54.367Z","text":"哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qadb74ca881c081d81d25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q302a63303652c340dae1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadb74ca881c081d81d25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q13530576f87348ece40c","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":10,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T03:17:29.645Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 所以qmay哭了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0a12285b5a113e397c1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13530576f87348ece40c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a12285b5a113e397c1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qd41383f88b4fdc5523be","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":11,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T03:18:40.536Z","text":"［用户 kir***］\n推销喜国 300骨干 4000网格员","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5586f82955eb8ac1af59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd41383f88b4fdc5523be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5586f82955eb8ac1af59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qe6e35bf2261cd15f5aa8","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":12,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-22T03:19:13.530Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ ［用户 joh***］ 卧槽","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5586f82955eb8ac1af59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6e35bf2261cd15f5aa8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5586f82955eb8ac1af59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q752c1a3c19e071c62392","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":13,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T03:20:29.253Z","text":"qmay哭，估计是知道背后主子，要抛弃她们\n投诚，习要不要，还是问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"qadb74ca881c081d81d25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q752c1a3c19e071c62392","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadb74ca881c081d81d25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q15ac4dcf5754e145ff81","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":14,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T03:28:09.884Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］ \n这个案子接下来，确实有意思了\n郭肯定是要拖死这300骨干\n300骨干成了海外孤儿\n这个案子，自诉上二巡的东西，可以把重点共谋比如长岛，张永兵，魏，草根，都拉回刑事案，检方也保不住他们的自诉协议，那么之前检方的证人证词，都要推翻重审\n二巡要护南区的犊子，那么南区只能卖这300骨干共谋","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15ac4dcf5754e145ff81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qbb5bef02b27a2175b12a","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":15,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-22T03:30:47.608Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 这300骨干如果想交投名状 现在都难了 只能以受害人介入 去南区 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Capital 。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q36aa557aeb57df474bda","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q564891d9dcce02054515","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36aa557aeb57df474bda","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qdbbf51f5d95ffa1aa71d","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":50,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-22T11:39:30.917Z","text":"能够确认魏截留的钱，是它给夏其东的那800多万。夏收这800多万后谎称被冻结，也坐实了夏的独立诈骗。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbbf51f5d95ffa1aa71d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qa8b19618325550b40d15","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":51,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T11:40:41.051Z","text":"有些投资人还通过Paypal 给9指汇了款","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8b19618325550b40d15","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q45556c0fb37ae68a584f","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":52,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T11:42:14.244Z","text":"另外9指说， 那个姓陈的在德州买房的， 是郭先生给凤凰农场工作人员运营的钱 6百多万","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45556c0fb37ae68a584f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qecb11fc2c5b78f5b9b5f","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":53,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T11:43:51.672Z","text":"夏独立诈骗 授权给他代理的投资者\n魏相关公司 独立闷农场借贷\n都做实了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdbbf51f5d95ffa1aa71d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecb11fc2c5b78f5b9b5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbbf51f5d95ffa1aa71d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q3c54567e540655579d32","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":54,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T11:43:57.859Z","text":"她对王雪冰 夏 文斌 喊话 - 她的may wind 的钱都被夏拿去了； 香草山的maywind 的钱夏已经汇给了UAE","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3cfc0024fd6d87197c0b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c54567e540655579d32","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cfc0024fd6d87197c0b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q65bbb997fef7b22ea8f3","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":55,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T11:44:39.589Z","text":"魏的话，一句都不可信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65bbb997fef7b22ea8f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q3fb8f619c37668d98fe9","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":56,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T11:48:31.907Z","text":"这个1.17亿出处在哪里？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3cfc0024fd6d87197c0b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fb8f619c37668d98fe9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cfc0024fd6d87197c0b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q76392f248cc3ade2102e","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":57,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T11:49:26.261Z","text":"我前面有截图","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3fb8f619c37668d98fe9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76392f248cc3ade2102e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fb8f619c37668d98fe9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qe40898779979c50b7e01","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":58,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T11:50:41.489Z","text":"MOS从maywind拿回的这部分借贷，夏有没有汇ACA capital，得问夏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c54567e540655579d32","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe40898779979c50b7e01","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c54567e540655579d32","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q071b44a6dd0e2e8997ec","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":59,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T11:51:31.616Z","text":"这个图？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q071b44a6dd0e2e8997ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q82d1610f0ed6dfb91bcd","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":60,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T11:52:00.070Z","text":"不好意思，前面我说错了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q071b44a6dd0e2e8997ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82d1610f0ed6dfb91bcd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q071b44a6dd0e2e8997ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q6c4b5cdabb40fa550196","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":61,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T11:52:17.326Z","text":"89m是，借贷，我弄错了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c4b5cdabb40fa550196","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qf6f481d95e020b4e5105","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":62,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T11:53:21.068Z","text":"在VOG这块，她通过支票闷了46m\n下面这个截图，就是谎言\n所有钱冻结，这是扯淡\n也确实不在个人账户，这是文字游戏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6f481d95e020b4e5105","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qb623e147032869e28de0","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":63,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T11:57:06.468Z","text":"通过支票闷46m - 为什么说她闷了？证据？\n\n同意所有钱被冻结是谎言 这一说法 - 因为她说的话前后矛盾","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb623e147032869e28de0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q94a4ffb5add1b9d5fd75","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":64,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T11:58:13.985Z","text":"王艳萍没收清单","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94a4ffb5add1b9d5fd75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q746abd05616adfc70408","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":65,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T11:59:14.151Z","text":"SEC 的钱的附件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q746abd05616adfc70408","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qa33dae73c5ba108fe8a9","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":66,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T12:01:01.892Z","text":"活期支票，被她取走\n到了那儿，只有她知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb623e147032869e28de0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa33dae73c5ba108fe8a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb623e147032869e28de0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q392fa09b63909b58201b","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":67,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T12:01:40.328Z","text":"王的没收，没有VOG相关","edited":false,"reply_to":"q94a4ffb5add1b9d5fd75","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q392fa09b63909b58201b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94a4ffb5add1b9d5fd75","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qd34e84db0023ef14df15","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":68,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T12:02:38.828Z","text":"还是不明白。郭法庭文件说过，有100m 不在司法部没收范围内","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa33dae73c5ba108fe8a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd34e84db0023ef14df15","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa33dae73c5ba108fe8a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qf8b2851c8f33cf08c617","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":69,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T12:05:24.946Z","text":"……\n\n从另外一个角度看， SEC 好像罚款她/利息好像是7百万， 她还请了律师， 好像是生活还挺奢华的 - 以她的能力， 她用什么钱支付这些？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8b2851c8f33cf08c617","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q70450fc0f2bfde7edd3b","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":70,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T12:06:01.123Z","text":"另外还有多余的钱给夏 3百多万","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70450fc0f2bfde7edd3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q5e20a6ec61d974c488df","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":71,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T12:08:58.930Z","text":"VOG，这个附件里，schedule E，她总共汇了61m，日期是Apr Jul\n那个46m支票，日期是Aug","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd34e84db0023ef14df15","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e20a6ec61d974c488df","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd34e84db0023ef14df15","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q13b1b185562e34a1708a","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":72,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T12:09:38.655Z","text":"由于我/们 不是300骨干核心人员， 不知道他们的猫腻， 只能拼图。\n\n9指妖 夏 王雪冰 等等 这些共谋， 那些给南区发文件而不被入卷的， 都可以上二巡强制令 拼图\n\n这些共谋咱们可以一个个 来拼图","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13b1b185562e34a1708a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q26b0d2a6a4e0b92668cb","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":73,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T12:13:27.175Z","text":"她说她那里有不到47m现金支票 在等待SEC 同意给投资人退款 - 2/19/2021","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e20a6ec61d974c488df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26b0d2a6a4e0b92668cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e20a6ec61d974c488df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q622176051447dbebc5ca","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":74,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T12:15:59.277Z","text":"支取权在她 sec没法冻结\n退款人申请多少，她从这46m拿多少\n没人申领，就是她的\n和闷，没区别","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26b0d2a6a4e0b92668cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q622176051447dbebc5ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26b0d2a6a4e0b92668cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q4b8f75ee8b02d75885d8","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":75,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T12:17:40.679Z","text":"这也是她敢卖墙内人信息，给国宝的原因，多卖一个，她就少退一份钱\n卖人怕还有额外bonus","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b8f75ee8b02d75885d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q78ecf695f8c8a522f88d","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":76,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T12:26:45.225Z","text":"但是支票也在银行兑现在她那里才是钱呢。您是说， SEC 根本就没收缴这46m？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q622176051447dbebc5ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78ecf695f8c8a522f88d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q622176051447dbebc5ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q0f26e739c9eabd294e11","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":77,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T12:28:09.750Z","text":"她说“现金支票” - 什么是现金支票？ cashier check? Money order? 钱在PayPal 那里？ western union？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f26e739c9eabd294e11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q4594e0e6934a0857136a","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":78,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T12:29:05.719Z","text":"我认为是，46m sec没有冻结","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78ecf695f8c8a522f88d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4594e0e6934a0857136a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78ecf695f8c8a522f88d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q84fdae45e80b7e393be2","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":79,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T12:33:25.125Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 下面这个，她可以随意支配","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84fdae45e80b7e393be2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q44406d9f663a95ede767","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":80,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T12:34:12.410Z","text":"9指妖另外的一个恶毒的地方 她应该是出卖了很多中国留学生。\n\n那些搞政治庇护的也都被出卖了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44406d9f663a95ede767","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qdf173f47653cbbede59c","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":81,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T12:35:11.851Z","text":"这个是哪里的文件？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q84fdae45e80b7e393be2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf173f47653cbbede59c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84fdae45e80b7e393be2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q8ad7c9df0e542dd7df44","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":82,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T12:41:27.825Z","text":"你发的附件","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdf173f47653cbbede59c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ad7c9df0e542dd7df44","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf173f47653cbbede59c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qce3d19724a00e2d10354","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":83,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T12:45:02.609Z","text":"意思是，与GTV相关的，就61m，Sara已经汇","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce3d19724a00e2d10354","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q634ce7a8141820c002f6","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":84,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T12:45:45.405Z","text":"47m支票，留在sara/VOG，给退款用\n而sec并没有冻结，只是监管\n有人申领，sec告知sara，她再汇\n没人申领的，一直留在那个账户，sara的开支都从这里出","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q634ce7a8141820c002f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q3664dcd184e284afb795","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":85,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T13:00:50.008Z","text":"https://x.com/USronaldcarter/status/2113173186728870026?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3664dcd184e284afb795","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q64123760f6298b749adb","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":86,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-22T13:00:57.730Z","text":"As 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在德州拿投资人的钱买房的那个？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61222057b7713836a8ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q77545df4f3c7d39c5081","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":108,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T03:36:09.266Z","text":"说明，魏进入刑事案，目的是用指认郭，换取不起诉协议里，覆盖VOG maywind等\n这些本来也都属于G系列","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdfe1c11fe6975ff98200","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77545df4f3c7d39c5081","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfe1c11fe6975ff98200","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q8572987378ae295e657a","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":109,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-23T03:36:09.393Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  这些东西 下一个文件全都会被他们打出来","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0ed2983f84b57ea97ee6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8572987378ae295e657a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ed2983f84b57ea97ee6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q028c3df986f8a8fad3e1","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":110,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T03:36:25.783Z","text":"9指妖说郭给了6百万凤凰农场运营费 - 德州买房了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q028c3df986f8a8fad3e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qf78fd8a495d0511bb692","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":111,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-23T03:36:34.184Z","text":"他们会从司法上变成过街老鼠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf78fd8a495d0511bb692","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q4c1a360c8c5afc7c9c56","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":112,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T03:37:09.144Z","text":"g-service employee","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38ef1489f86f1a41659f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c1a360c8c5afc7c9c56","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38ef1489f86f1a41659f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q5ba9102267e4dba60732","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":113,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T03:37:25.880Z","text":"鬼话连篇，能信？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q028c3df986f8a8fad3e1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ba9102267e4dba60732","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q028c3df986f8a8fad3e1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q59f887dce139706087d2","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":114,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T03:40:32.669Z","text":"彭建与Santell LLC 又是什么关系？ Arizona 那个民事诉讼， 一个莫名其妙的追债公司，赢了案子against 彭建， 可笑的是， 追债公司想让Santell 和 MEDICAL SUPPLY 转款的投资人支付他的个人的债务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59f887dce139706087d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qdebf588310cdca36c316","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":115,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T03:42:44.621Z","text":"问题是： gservice 在G系列停止投资/冻结后， 他们有什么实业支付人员开销？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdebf588310cdca36c316","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q49ef36748f67b795a25a","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":116,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T03:42:48.868Z","text":"VOG投资，在魏个人账户，和VOG公司（她是法人）两个地方\n她把个人账户转空，注销，而VOG公司转款后，账户还有46m支票，还有钱给她用\n\n借贷这块，在maywind/G service/medical 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等","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q731879d7411579341da6","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":119,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T03:47:37.468Z","text":"看不出来\n检方怎么得出借贷涉案1.5亿，不知道\n起诉书，也没有这几个公司\n没收清单，也没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q731879d7411579341da6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qbd7b441ab6fb64072149","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":120,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T04:02:11.409Z","text":"https://x.com/pb5gvqodgdij83s/status/1801988555117351116?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd7b441ab6fb64072149","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q6b45cb2979c77b06405f","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":121,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T04:02:47.235Z","text":"1. 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（陈自己说的）。由于陈其生跟王建军想侵吞款项，目前DHS在对其刑事调查。另外郭文贵指挥香草山长岛在民事诉讼试图要回这些钱。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b45cb2979c77b06405f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q31f1ff005563841e7680","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":122,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T04:03:07.929Z","text":"上面的是9指妖的公告","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31f1ff005563841e7680","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qb7ab89db7fb396204718","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":123,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T04:04:06.957Z","text":"反正她怎么说，一句话不可信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7ab89db7fb396204718","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q413b1b940976dc139048","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":124,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T04:05:22.460Z","text":"把人拉回刑事案，她的不起诉协议就作废，想通过不起诉掩盖的几个公司，都要回来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q413b1b940976dc139048","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q0d8dc42b42746f3ae641","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":125,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T04:06:17.692Z","text":"想说，让她自己去刑事庭说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d8dc42b42746f3ae641","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q5a4e3dbb3384e3e371af","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":126,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T04:08:10.413Z","text":"检方要解释 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supply拿回借贷项目的投资款，这个事，是南区绕不开的点\n涉及案子的总涉案金额\n以及最终没收清单的计算","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d56fef1fef83921abbe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q0c70df0084d90190c8aa","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":129,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-10-23T04:31:19.027Z","text":"gservice一共就运行了2，3个月，这里面最大的工资就是zhang xin给自己开出15万工资","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdebf588310cdca36c316","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c70df0084d90190c8aa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdebf588310cdca36c316","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q9da53203017b9cd02c80","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":130,"speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-10-23T04:48:56.022Z","text":"dartmouth这玩意就是zhang xin给弄来的。坏人跟坏人互相利用，然后又互相伤害。一开始zhang xin请了个律师帮他，顺便也帮peng jian, sara，等人。当时他们请这个律师可能主要是想跟郭打官司，以及应对sec，他们可能是比较害怕，然后跟这个律师签了个大单，一次性预先支付了200万到律师的一个信托账户，以后的律师费就从这里出。但是没想到sec这个事很容易就解决了。没花多少律师费，然后这200万还剩下170万在信托账户。然后他们就想把这钱拿回，应该就跟律师起了冲突。他们就想办法把这个律师没有在亚利桑那州的执照的事弄到律师协会，然后律师协会就处罚了这个律师，然后170万根据判决应该是被拿回了。但是律师怀恨在心，就开始利用他手里的我们战友的信息谋划报复。律师自己不方便出面，所以把自己债权转移给了dartmouth。先是利用当年的200万合同，找了一个以前也犯过错被律师协会处罚的人当仲裁，这个仲裁把170万判给律师，并且追加100万罚款，这就变成了270万，他们利用zhang, peng, yun jing等人不懂法的漏洞，搞到了缺席审判获胜的法庭令，并且把缺席的santel判定为peng的ganishment，从而把针对peng的债权扩展到santel公司，这个都怪peng, yun jing不上庭应诉。然后santel就利用这个法庭令来gservice案件要求分钱，这270万还要附带8%的利息，到gservice案件里变成315万，账上钱都给他都不够，这帮律师真的非常非常坏，完全是利用法律漏洞，根本没有什么维护法治和正义的责任。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59f887dce139706087d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9da53203017b9cd02c80","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59f887dce139706087d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qdbe0c80a412c8c5a7d34","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":131,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T04:58:37.678Z","text":"终于明白了这个案件的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9da53203017b9cd02c80","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbe0c80a412c8c5a7d34","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9da53203017b9cd02c80","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q095de4d1f69fad0a5b94","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":132,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-23T05:09:47.780Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 如何把这些人拉回刑事案 有何妙计😄","edited":true,"reply_to":"q413b1b940976dc139048","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q095de4d1f69fad0a5b94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q413b1b940976dc139048","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qfb2566794e3ed86203f9","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":133,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-23T05:16:03.584Z","text":"往哪个账户转了钱，那个账户由谁控制，就可以把对应的人拉到刑事案。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb2566794e3ed86203f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q2d82393155511ef8f84b","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":134,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T05:18:16.036Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 拉魏啊\n农场借贷这块，长岛诉maywind\nmaywind还款，不就是魏承认闷钱\n对量刑 没收 都是冲击","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5d56fef1fef83921abbe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d82393155511ef8f84b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d56fef1fef83921abbe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q8c528324919368e6b2e2","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":135,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-23T05:19:00.383Z","text":"应该超过一半的人，向maywind 转了钱，这些人都应该到南区去说这个事，钱没在没收清单，那么钱在哪里？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c528324919368e6b2e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q4e5ea7eb7da0a2d66bb0","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":136,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T05:19:52.820Z","text":"上了二巡的 或者在南区不入卷的， 都可以介入， 把事实证据呈上。\n\n\n9指妖是大鱼啊。几千人的资料给国保。可能留学生、政庀 一大批","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e5ea7eb7da0a2d66bb0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qc194cd23f9ba38f669d3","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":137,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-23T05:20:16.565Z","text":"在不起诉协议里？还是在g enterprise 里的某个实体里？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc194cd23f9ba38f669d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q6043b820983b7d29ed18","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":138,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-23T05:20:37.404Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  没事 你们说的这些 下一份文件 会让联盟农场贪钱的人一个个排队被调查 联盟农场离死只有一个文件的距离了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4e5ea7eb7da0a2d66bb0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6043b820983b7d29ed18","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e5ea7eb7da0a2d66bb0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qe6499155bff2434492f9","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":139,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T05:20:38.716Z","text":"和南区检方，没区别","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9da53203017b9cd02c80","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6499155bff2434492f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9da53203017b9cd02c80","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q119c83c1624c43013428","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":140,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T05:22:39.289Z","text":"联盟农场就是共产党的影子舰队，操控这个案子的主谋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6043b820983b7d29ed18","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q119c83c1624c43013428","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6043b820983b7d29ed18","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q920fc60bd23ebb41cb9f","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":141,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-23T05:23:09.761Z","text":"［用户 beg***］  这个案子的主谋就是联盟农场","edited":true,"reply_to":"q119c83c1624c43013428","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q920fc60bd23ebb41cb9f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q119c83c1624c43013428","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q2e30dd1b47c83c087619","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":142,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-23T05:23:23.893Z","text":"联盟农场 一个都逃不走","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e30dd1b47c83c087619","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q534599cf7b6cd11adccc","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":143,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T05:23:34.854Z","text":"长岛与maywind这个诉讼，也可以把长岛自己卖掉\n他作为MOS.LLC的法人，从2023年刑事案开始，作为共谋，不能再继续民事诉讼，农场借贷相关的投资，因为都属于刑事案涉案资金\n更没有资格，继续代理400w借贷的其他农场投资者\n这些他没有向民事法庭，或者投资者，及时披露","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d82393155511ef8f84b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q534599cf7b6cd11adccc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d82393155511ef8f84b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q314341ec4c97c54f7626","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":144,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T05:31:28.111Z","text":"民事法庭，即使已经判maywind/medical supply/Aeon要赔付给MOS.LLC关于借贷项目的资金，但因为属于刑事案涉案资金，这也钱一定要被追回，同时追究长岛欺诈法庭，不披露共谋身份","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q314341ec4c97c54f7626","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q1f851519ae30e446d1a0","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":145,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T05:35:46.749Z","text":"背后主子，最后也罩不住她\n凤凰农场这个事，漏洞太多，也会毁掉整个刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e5ea7eb7da0a2d66bb0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f851519ae30e446d1a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e5ea7eb7da0a2d66bb0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q2f550e077da8c021d260","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":146,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T05:37:28.635Z","text":"9指的信息可多了。大家等着看二巡法庭文件吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f550e077da8c021d260","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qa3272f514a08173812f4","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":147,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T05:39:28.870Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］ ［用户 beg***］ \n［用户 him***］ [删节：成员身份]在这个群，就是要利用螺丝哥，打开市场，知名度，然后吸引想介入案子的进来，带偏风向","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3272f514a08173812f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qa4e6352dbb9976a1a321","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":148,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T05:40:58.989Z","text":"用 ［用户 him***］ 的话就是，自诉的只能853n，只能谈怎么分钱\n至于检方哪些钱没有收缴，没有起诉或者没收，自诉的没资格管","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4e6352dbb9976a1a321","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qda2c285dd88fc0ff700c","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":149,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T05:43:05.143Z","text":"在推上 ［用户 him***］ 一直骂CVRA和青藤AVA一样，是坑郭\n在这里，一直反对自诉用CVRA\n目的其实是一样，把自诉的都引到853","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda2c285dd88fc0ff700c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q18289ac16f09c3a8d3b7","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":150,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T05:55:58.197Z","text":"借贷项目，部分到ACA capital, 部分到maywind/medical supply/ G service等\n魏撒谎，称maywind关于借贷的，都转到了郭指定的账户\n长岛也是这样撒谎，称借贷最后都去了ACA 或者maywind\n同理，其他农场主都是这样说\n闷在农场主手里，而没汇到指定账户的，有多少，没人知道，也没有任何冻结\nhttps://x.com/percy43508644/status/1680324734800781312?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18289ac16f09c3a8d3b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qcb67e971f01780116e67","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":151,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-23T08:11:25.010Z","text":"这个蔚蓝应该也是潜伏力量，收拾烂摊子的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q111352a58c45725fb6e7","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb67e971f01780116e67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q7e81349f2f48fc3e0fff","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":152,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-23T12:58:54.687Z","text":"这个不是像LUC拿投资人的钱去还郭的非G系列债权人一样了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59f887dce139706087d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e81349f2f48fc3e0fff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59f887dce139706087d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qea3c6b3aa4eb311ff2ed","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":153,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-23T13:00:41.170Z","text":"这个是要全联盟起诉SARA才能理清，单独个别人起诉只能追到自己这笔资金的Maywind帐户","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea3c6b3aa4eb311ff2ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q3fb4c41d0182e94fe657","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":154,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T13:50:50.589Z","text":"那么有别的解释？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8bb83e4a60f793ed4ec9","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fb4c41d0182e94fe657","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qcaf37e86bbc38a7ea9d2","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":155,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-23T13:51:29.723Z","text":"peng, yun jing不上庭应诉，他们应诉回来钱也是退给投资者，他们又捞不到，他们会为了投资者花钱花精力去应诉？第三方自己去法庭看看能不能申请撤销判决吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9da53203017b9cd02c80","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaf37e86bbc38a7ea9d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9da53203017b9cd02c80","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q333cbdcfde072c302c56","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":156,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-23T13:52:22.372Z","text":"我不知道，我只是看他写的这点搞不清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3fb4c41d0182e94fe657","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q333cbdcfde072c302c56","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fb4c41d0182e94fe657","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q1ddd552ebd7ef58f8963","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":157,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T13:52:35.404Z","text":"第三方为彭建申请撤销对他的判决？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcaf37e86bbc38a7ea9d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ddd552ebd7ef58f8963","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaf37e86bbc38a7ea9d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q287790a6aee845ee5d4c","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":158,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-23T13:54:52.721Z","text":"没有追债公司的话钱在彭那里就等于在你这里，你为你自己让这追债公司别来抢钱而已，就好像让LUC别来抢钱，这个很难理解吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q287790a6aee845ee5d4c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qe9cb362a7d57929e47ab","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":159,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-23T13:56:37.649Z","text":"你只是去法庭主张所有权，santel的钱是你的，不是彭建的，有没有用不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9cb362a7d57929e47ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q29e23e8b1acd2a0ba1c2","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":160,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-23T13:58:14.133Z","text":"我只是奇怪170万如果退回了，那肯定是有判决律师才肯退回，那怎么能又再申请二次仲裁？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29e23e8b1acd2a0ba1c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q536da4a852b5969c1c37","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":161,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T14:11:00.215Z","text":"瞎扯淡\n刑事案只要有一个自诉，把这笔钱，提上二巡，检方就必须重新量刑\n不然涉案金额，就不全","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea3c6b3aa4eb311ff2ed","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q536da4a852b5969c1c37","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea3c6b3aa4eb311ff2ed","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qab4dc528b8eb6fa17c22","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":162,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T14:18:59.747Z","text":"主个屁\n本都是刑事案洗钱共谋，装着无辜，把刑事案的涉案资金，拿在民事诉讼玩儿\n这些人被拖回刑事案，那么民事案里，这些人都是伪证，还闹个屁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q29e23e8b1acd2a0ba1c2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab4dc528b8eb6fa17c22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29e23e8b1acd2a0ba1c2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q194adf22e0052c83f588","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":163,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T14:21:24.762Z","text":"［用户 spr***］ 青藤之前可是在长岛的香草山，借贷的时候，MOs有6个收款账户，其中一个就是青藤","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q194adf22e0052c83f588","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q5f1ef0fa2b8759b29e12","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":164,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T14:23:28.117Z","text":"长岛因为借贷这个事，用MOS.LLC，和魏民事诉讼，他要被拉回刑事案，那么MOS.LLC，会被查个底朝天，特别是关于借贷的，青藤没地方跑\n［用户 spr***］ 你觉得，青藤死之前，不会出卖你？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f1ef0fa2b8759b29e12","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q604f70b229cba628ab42","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":165,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-23T14:25:40.064Z","text":"现在法院已经判了，欺诈计划的流入，都是损失，只要给任何一个农场或者联盟名义的账户汇过钱的，都要去南区提交证据，找政府和法院要说法，钱在哪里！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q604f70b229cba628ab42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qf7d6e8087f9a4fdad5ae","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":166,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T14:29:13.798Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ ［用户 kir***］ ［用户 beg***］ \n通过这个事，我也大致明白了，魏的几个马仔，就是大[屏蔽词]\n长岛诉maywind/medical supply/Aeon，455w是MOS.LLC出去的借贷，400w是其他农场委托他的，而最终法官也说了，长岛只有那455w的代理权。\n但是魏的马仔，也是法盲，被长岛唬住了，几个公司一共退了快1200w\n这帮人真的是，互相忽悠，比的就是谁嗓门大，能吓唬人","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9da53203017b9cd02c80","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7d6e8087f9a4fdad5ae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9da53203017b9cd02c80","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q7a559948f9bf111e923b","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":167,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-23T14:39:28.246Z","text":"投资人不但要付他们的律师费，而且还要付他们的巨额罚金","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9da53203017b9cd02c80","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a559948f9bf111e923b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9da53203017b9cd02c80","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qa6be7894b7886f419f98","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":168,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-23T14:41:35.293Z","text":"［用户 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对吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec2f8d1f0109e073f8c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"qebe35964f201d09c301a","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":170,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T20:05:19.417Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qec2f8d1f0109e073f8c2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebe35964f201d09c301a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec2f8d1f0109e073f8c2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165"},{"id":"q9789c382dad8719cb179","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":171,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-23T20:05:58.763Z","text":"在没收里面 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