{"id":"batch-000166","number":166,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-10-29T16:23:52.203Z","date_end":"2026-11-01T11:57:39.240Z","total_messages":995,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 166 (Oct 29, 2026 – Nov 1, 2026), 995 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants disputed investment losses, refund flows and forfeiture amounts involving GTV and VOG, and whether Zhang Yongbing’s role representing investors conflicted with his alleged role in a conspiracy. They interpreted Dkt. 388 and debated witness credibility, refund authorizations and Maywind litigation. Some noted objections already raised in ECF 383 while questioning their sufficiency and the threshold for ineffective assistance. 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described ECF 383 as already citing independent conduct and disputing a link between Zhang’s statements and Guo."},{"message_id":"q274b382183f0272a2122","summary_en":"kir*** argued that defense counsel had already made the point another participant proposed."},{"message_id":"q0defb97d599910c8f65d","summary_en":"kir*** argued that potentially favorable testimony omitted from Dkt. 383 merited review but did not establish a Cronic claim by itself."}]},{"title":"Refund authorization, Maywind litigation and control of funds as challenges to the conspiracy theory","description":"Participants discussed whether an authorization and evidence of independent financial control could support a more specific challenge.","message_ids":["qee791a892e78ca31ed42","q668dea3b525ded18f1eb","qeebd6cadfec05cedaad9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qee791a892e78ca31ed42","summary_en":"joh*** argued that Jason’s authorization could be used in a CVRA proceeding against 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共谋犯帮受害者退钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a7ee0ac02135e0cdd2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q325f5402428710349327","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":206,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:28:57.148Z","text":"这他妈就是托雷斯的问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q325f5402428710349327","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q542b3025553556c2cf41","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":207,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T04:30:13.463Z","text":"和张签的GTV退款委托授权书，到二巡，托雷斯会怎么说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q542b3025553556c2cf41","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q2a9eb200ce64d2b5970a","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":208,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:30:46.249Z","text":"不用托雷斯说了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q542b3025553556c2cf41","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a9eb200ce64d2b5970a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q542b3025553556c2cf41","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q7a83d35fe9425081c443","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":209,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:30:58.707Z","text":"直接问律师 为什么不打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a83d35fe9425081c443","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc016617096eb314a7e98","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":210,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:31:17.400Z","text":"这些钱不出现在刑事庭 受害者得不到保护","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc016617096eb314a7e98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q401a0431e379b2d6492c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":211,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:31:31.724Z","text":"并且你律师无效辩护","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q401a0431e379b2d6492c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q9d1efc0c3876e92dcac9","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":212,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:31:39.744Z","text":"这个点太强了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d1efc0c3876e92dcac9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q0e117acff5af2335ded5","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":213,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:31:56.643Z","text":"律师无效辩护 坑害受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e117acff5af2335ded5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q2bbb3a958c1b05e96c51","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":214,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T04:31:58.774Z","text":"魏也是一样的道理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bbb3a958c1b05e96c51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q98cb9994b74483260c56","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":215,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:33:44.499Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 魏也是共谋言行","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98cb9994b74483260c56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q8f288a094c60ed99f9ce","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":216,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:34:01.132Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 魏也在帮gtv受害者退钱 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joh***］ 所以 现在这个局面 最大的弱点就是律师 要把律师打死","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc153c0680a941398a051","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q27ce560391fde4aca312","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":286,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T06:30:52.323Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 检方 托雷斯再[屏蔽词] 被我们打得再狼狈 究其根本 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joh***］ 文件700 郭说的是 重大沟通问题","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcba32cd45b04fb715ca5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q02c084d70bd525964f36","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":291,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T06:32:19.581Z","text":"量刑律师 这帮[屏蔽词]完全就是联盟的傀儡","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02c084d70bd525964f36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q4d79cad20cd5fbaee399","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":292,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T06:34:47.247Z","text":"局现在是做成了，也量刑了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d79cad20cd5fbaee399","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qf23737b06ed3104bd745","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":293,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T06:35:07.472Z","text":"但是接下来呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf23737b06ed3104bd745","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qfea463b21b1991c4da3f","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":294,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T06:35:11.748Z","text":"死局了 ［用户 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joh***］ 那我明白了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f4ede4849e84b6d8019","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q09e128cdb71cc8f1680c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":327,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T06:51:50.574Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 搞不好cipa 就是证明 gtv 就是美国情报项目","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09e128cdb71cc8f1680c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q6369315a65569ce59427","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":328,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T06:52:22.101Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 你想想看 如果gtv有罪 会怎么样……","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6369315a65569ce59427","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q34a53336573f634926ee","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":329,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-30T06:52:23.972Z","text":"共产党会死保它们。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4157e61dd47119b58dbb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34a53336573f634926ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4157e61dd47119b58dbb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q516f57dcf505bd38921b","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":330,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T06:52:41.388Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ 我认为共产党会把他们像垃圾一样丢掉","edited":true,"reply_to":"q34a53336573f634926ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q516f57dcf505bd38921b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34a53336573f634926ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qb715189c4197fa9764ee","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":331,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T06:52:50.624Z","text":"赵安吉都没了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q34a53336573f634926ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb715189c4197fa9764ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34a53336573f634926ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qb1cbe1416338dd7ec710","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":332,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T06:52:59.703Z","text":"这些算个鸟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1cbe1416338dd7ec710","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q52cbb2b919a07aea484d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":333,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-30T06:53:36.771Z","text":"不会。对共产党理解，我们是两个极端。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q516f57dcf505bd38921b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52cbb2b919a07aea484d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q516f57dcf505bd38921b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q9e458f9489242bdb4163","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":334,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-30T06:54:10.099Z","text":"赵离郭太远","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb715189c4197fa9764ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e458f9489242bdb4163","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb715189c4197fa9764ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qe66af64e4c9edf6a7bc4","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":335,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T06:54:42.405Z","text":"那魏丽红，岂不是更惨","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6369315a65569ce59427","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe66af64e4c9edf6a7bc4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6369315a65569ce59427","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qd0cc04585839c0e2a08e","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":336,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T06:54:53.757Z","text":"坏了CIA的好事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0cc04585839c0e2a08e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc1e8e63a1630f3cdb146","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":337,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T06:55:05.914Z","text":"啥钱都敢闷","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1e8e63a1630f3cdb146","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qeea1233310a925d8e50a","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":338,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T06:56:43.695Z","text":"这300骨干，算不上什么高level的，没价值","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9e458f9489242bdb4163","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeea1233310a925d8e50a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e458f9489242bdb4163","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc2e51adf7f83101f163d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":339,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-30T06:56:54.204Z","text":"大家能不能找一个，被郭攻击过的墙外的台面人物，有一个出了事。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2e51adf7f83101f163d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q52681347cc7105247b48","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":340,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-30T06:58:07.080Z","text":"只要被郭说过会怎样怎样，共产党一定让其不发生。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52681347cc7105247b48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc131ba5036d9ac4e0e97","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":341,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T07:00:11.181Z","text":"郭进去了，这帮人还在继续作","edited":false,"reply_to":"q52681347cc7105247b48","reply_status":"avai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 我在这里大胆猜测： 郭的cipa 可能是证明gtv或者其他g系列是钓鱼共产党的工具 这也就解释了为什么gtv必须要无罪。 如果gtv有罪，那么cipa必须打开。 而gtv无罪，如果假设成立，那么托雷斯才有理由拒绝。 当然 纯属猜测","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q386afed3e1226fab6abb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q48afb9328f5b7ef6f794","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":344,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T07:05:32.517Z","text":"［用户 him***］  根据你的同伙 ［用户 _ki***］  瑞恩其实在国内","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48afb9328f5b7ef6f794","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q42a82b6af8f7c1460cd4","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":345,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T07:06:01.463Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 不过安小东这一点值得称赞 这都能扯","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42a82b6af8f7c1460cd4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q0d807e41c7d869113305","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":346,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T07:08:37.827Z","text":"本来那时候别人叫的是 集体诉讼群，主要是诉讼GTV退款","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d807e41c7d869113305","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q1336554984ce212c0efa","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":347,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T07:09:04.274Z","text":"这 ［用户 him***］ 安小东，硬是改成了自诉群","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1336554984ce212c0efa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qe831466ec79ea70c8c86","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":348,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-30T07:44:26.140Z","text":"中共可以接受输给美国，输给人类，输给上帝等符号，但它不能接受输给两个对手。一个是不能接受输给中国人，另一个是不能接受输给郭文贵。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q01b39d87f22556f06f01","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe831466ec79ea70c8c86","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01b39d87f22556f06f01","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q3a609c8b33c0e5ea8bac","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":349,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-30T07:44:50.295Z","text":"不是代价的问题，而是体制运转，回不了头。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a609c8b33c0e5ea8bac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qded6dddd27630e88eae1","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":350,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-30T07:46:23.426Z","text":"按照正常思维，魏出事后，它们就应该停止推进这项计划，但它们并没有。因为是它们先出的这一招，然后郭接招，然后如果它们退缩，就是认输，所以只能继续推进。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qded6dddd27630e88eae1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qe48afb45100ddd95434c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":351,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-30T07:48:44.109Z","text":"郭几年如一日的遛中共的那些野鬼，肯定不是闲得无聊遛起耍。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe48afb45100ddd95434c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qd168b6542c8b5794da83","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":352,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T07:53:33.372Z","text":"我操你这个说的很精辟","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe831466ec79ea70c8c86","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd168b6542c8b5794da83","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe831466ec79ea70c8c86","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q7f069ac4f35cbb579f78","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":353,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-30T08:53:25.431Z","text":"辩方也没让张提供他是郭律师的证明，法庭就默认张是郭律师，这不是过家家吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa32c214d55ecdf914429","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f069ac4f35cbb579f78","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa32c214d55ecdf914429","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qd9a2fd7f63065e0a393e","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":354,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T09:21:49.068Z","text":"那就好玩了，这300骨干，要陪他们主子，一直演到死","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe831466ec79ea70c8c86","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9a2fd7f63065e0a393e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe831466ec79ea70c8c86","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qab12c7f6df245be054c2","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":355,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-30T09:26:36.136Z","text":"这些证据有吗，可以发我一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d5299b10ae0e792ec92","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab12c7f6df245be054c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d5299b10ae0e792ec92","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q3e60461a7606cfaa3c14","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":356,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-30T09:38:54.714Z","text":"没看懂，说了半天好像是要为张洗白共谋身份似的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfca352bd58fe13e93b54","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e60461a7606cfaa3c14","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfca352bd58fe13e93b54","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q54475ebd9c857b08639e","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":357,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-30T09:47:27.433Z","text":"看来可以单独给张上一份动议，共谋犯代理受害人要钱，身份混同，利益冲突，他的所有陈述证词都应作废","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3fb2c3ebc1731a5fe037","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54475ebd9c857b08639e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fb2c3ebc1731a5fe037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- 共产党全程参与， 出谋划策， 300骨干的每个行动， 都有背后的那个团队指点。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb49ac6c42ecf24c88c8b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97472031be95124bb0f5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb49ac6c42ecf24c88c8b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q973f5dfba8ec2273c04c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":360,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T13:30:13.232Z","text":"［用户 him***］  我真的建议你别说话了 昨天你偶尔话多一天 就通过你的行为 被我们挖出两大中重磅","edited":true,"reply_to":"q90c1748c7a1f81cb8b2f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q973f5dfba8ec2273c04c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q702ce989a9d2a40382d9","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":361,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-30T13:51:58.245Z","text":"https://x.com/YujunWale/status/2115837171638890618?a=cdT059c70gNQ74MRiiY&s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q702ce989a9d2a40382d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q3f7923dde34263872e12","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":362,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T14:03:30.397Z","text":"似乎，拉魏回来刑事案的套路，可以用在韩国的案子，拉哈恩\n还是借贷项目，有合同，有收款人\n但是这部分，没有出现在起诉书，或者初步没收清单\n至于哈恩怎么回应，怎么咬草根，那是她的事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q702ce989a9d2a40382d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f7923dde34263872e12","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q702ce989a9d2a40382d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qab30569c53689a3f3f0c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":363,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-30T14:07:51.098Z","text":"已经有了： 安娜 把哈恩 草根 王雪冰 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