{"id":"batch-000166","number":166,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-10-29T16:23:52.203Z","date_end":"2026-11-01T11:57:39.240Z","total_messages":995,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 166 (Oct 29, 2026 – Nov 1, 2026), 995 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants disputed investment losses, refund flows and forfeiture amounts involving GTV and VOG, and whether Zhang Yongbing’s role representing investors conflicted with his alleged role in a conspiracy. They interpreted Dkt. 388 and debated witness credibility, refund authorizations and Maywind litigation. Some noted objections already raised in ECF 383 while questioning their sufficiency and the threshold for ineffective assistance. Discussion also covered CVRA, the Second Circuit, civil proceedings, Korean loans and speculation about political influence.","guide_en":[{"title":"Whether Luosige sought to overturn the case and the role of private litigants","description":"tan*** recalled Luosige’s stated aim and argued that private litigants exposed procedural and evidentiary problems.","message_ids":["qde3885b61b82b12057b4","q2c33b45d5597372127b4","q0d24c6be455ad119e27b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qde3885b61b82b12057b4","summary_en":"tan*** recalled Luosige saying he wanted to overturn the case."},{"message_id":"q2c33b45d5597372127b4","summary_en":"tan*** argued that Luosige helped initiate discussion despite not understanding the private litigants’ detailed arguments."},{"message_id":"q0d24c6be455ad119e27b","summary_en":"tan*** credited private litigation with exposing alleged procedural and evidentiary problems and challenging bankruptcy proceedings’ claim to funds."}]},{"title":"Whether Fair Fund refunds passed through an agent and reached investors","description":"Participants questioned the refund evidence and proposed tracing an investor’s authorized claim.","message_ids":["qb441dbf4ce955a30adb7","qcb7f7ccffdfe4bcfb4f2","qe3611775e6ffd1267eea"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qb441dbf4ce955a30adb7","summary_en":"ntp*** asked whether the Fair Fund had sent everything to Zhang and recalled being told their own refund awaited SEC approval."},{"message_id":"qcb7f7ccffdfe4bcfb4f2","summary_en":"ntp*** requested evidence that the Fair Fund paid Zhang and that Zhang denied receiving the money."},{"message_id":"qe3611775e6ffd1267eea","summary_en":"joh*** said Jason had applied for a refund and authorized Zhang, and proposed using CVRA to investigate the money."}]},{"title":"GTV and VOG funds, losses, forfeiture and investor status","description":"joh*** offered interpretations of GTV losses and forfeiture and speculated about the location of VOG funds.","message_ids":["q98f0cf7d77fd7252ca42","q961a35de07eb1e540deb","q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q98f0cf7d77fd7252ca42","summary_en":"joh*** contended that GTV investments were legitimate and that the jury found no GTV loss for sentencing and monetary judgment."},{"message_id":"q961a35de07eb1e540deb","summary_en":"joh*** argued that GTV forfeiture in Wang’s case might change and that investors who had authorized Zhang but received no refund still suffered losses."},{"message_id":"q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","summary_en":"joh*** speculated that VOG funds held by Wei explained a difference between the GTV amount in the indictment and forfeiture."}]},{"title":"Whether Zhang Yongbing’s refund representation conflicted with the conspiracy determination","description":"Participants questioned how Zhang’s investor representation related to the characterization of his conduct as conspiratorial.","message_ids":["q12a52ddceacda19c8e73","q66e14d551ca4ad454b31","qe38b81c1785223203550"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q12a52ddceacda19c8e73","summary_en":"beg*** argued that Zhang’s various roles, including seeking Fair Fund money for alleged victims, warranted closer examination."},{"message_id":"q66e14d551ca4ad454b31","summary_en":"kir*** questioned whether Zhang’s representation of investors created an evidentiary conflict relevant to Order 388, while noting that it would not automatically overturn the ruling."},{"message_id":"qe38b81c1785223203550","summary_en":"kir*** disputed the chronology and argued that the person’s role in pursuing funds undermined Torres’s characterization of her as a co-conspirator."}]},{"title":"Order 388, admissibility of co-conspirator statements and limits of testimony","description":"Participants examined Exhibit A and distinguished a witness’s reported fear from the conduct she described.","message_ids":["q0bfd3d232b28f7f2a1f6","q2a894da575d7ce8bf707","qb621af1969e03d15594c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0bfd3d232b28f7f2a1f6","summary_en":"kir*** directed another participant to Exhibit A in Order 388."},{"message_id":"q2a894da575d7ce8bf707","summary_en":"kir*** asked what Exhibit A said about Zhang’s alleged co-conspirator conduct and statements."},{"message_id":"qb621af1969e03d15594c","summary_en":"roy*** described Dkt. 388, Dkt. 382-1 and GX VI66, distinguishing Li Ya’s reported financial threat and fear from an explicit death threat or a signed affidavit."}]},{"title":"The adequacy of defense objections and the threshold for ineffective assistance","description":"kir*** identified arguments already raised by the defense and questioned whether other testimony supported an ineffective-assistance claim.","message_ids":["qdbb077aa0c7e2c81ccee","q274b382183f0272a2122","q0defb97d599910c8f65d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qdbb077aa0c7e2c81ccee","summary_en":"kir*** described ECF 383 as already citing independent conduct and disputing a link between Zhang’s statements and Guo."},{"message_id":"q274b382183f0272a2122","summary_en":"kir*** argued that defense counsel had already made the point another participant proposed."},{"message_id":"q0defb97d599910c8f65d","summary_en":"kir*** argued that potentially favorable testimony omitted from Dkt. 383 merited review but did not establish a Cronic claim by itself."}]},{"title":"Refund authorization, Maywind litigation and control of funds as challenges to the conspiracy theory","description":"Participants discussed whether an authorization and evidence of independent financial control could support a more specific challenge.","message_ids":["qee791a892e78ca31ed42","q668dea3b525ded18f1eb","qeebd6cadfec05cedaad9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qee791a892e78ca31ed42","summary_en":"joh*** argued that Jason’s authorization could be used in a CVRA proceeding against Zhang."},{"message_id":"q668dea3b525ded18f1eb","summary_en":"kir*** asked whether Guo had instructed Xia to sue Wei in the Maywind case."},{"message_id":"qeebd6cadfec05cedaad9","summary_en":"kir*** contended that Dkt. 383 insufficiently used refund and independent-conduct evidence and proposed a more specific argument concerning Dkt. 388."}]},{"title":"CVRA, Second Circuit and civil routes for investigating refunds and challenging rulings","description":"Participants asked about appellate access, proposed a CVRA inquiry and questioned the composition of a civil case.","message_ids":["q59744f96db7ef0b65f01","qd172ffe3b4f6cc6a5302","q880d61aeeb5824f580b5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q59744f96db7ef0b65f01","summary_en":"ntp*** asked whether someone who missed the Southern District proceedings could approach the Second Circuit."},{"message_id":"qd172ffe3b4f6cc6a5302","summary_en":"joh*** described Jason’s GTV investment and unanswered refund inquiries and proposed using CVRA to seek clarification."},{"message_id":"q880d61aeeb5824f580b5","summary_en":"kir*** asked whether Xia and Wei’s case involved mostly Farm loans rather than GTV."}]},{"title":"Witness credibility, sources of material and the alliance’s possible influence","description":"Participants questioned witness incentives and evidence sources while calling for proof of any alleged common control.","message_ids":["q3a708a9db52643bdf3a4","q5cef153a93ae99d85d82","qb21a19a130cadb060f31"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3a708a9db52643bdf3a4","summary_en":"beg*** contended that disproving testimony from alleged co-conspirators seeking favorable treatment could undermine the conviction."},{"message_id":"q5cef153a93ae99d85d82","summary_en":"joh*** referred to extensive livestream material."},{"message_id":"qb21a19a130cadb060f31","summary_en":"kir*** argued that alleged common control over evidence would require a documented chain linking specific sources, participants and effects on the proceedings."}]},{"title":"Korean lending project, related civil litigation and responsibility for funds","description":"Participants discussed a possible approach to the Korean loan project and related civil proceedings.","message_ids":["q3f7923dde34263872e12","qab30569c53689a3f3f0c","q4b312477753ab17d5635"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3f7923dde34263872e12","summary_en":"joh*** proposed involving Hahn in the criminal case over a Korean loan project that they said was absent from the indictment and preliminary forfeiture list."},{"message_id":"qab30569c53689a3f3f0c","summary_en":"beg*** said Anna had already included Hahn, Caogen and Wang Xuebing."},{"message_id":"q4b312477753ab17d5635","summary_en":"joh*** argued that the defense had only speculated about Wei taking GTV funds and overlooked a Maywind civil lending case with a judgment."}]},{"title":"Speculation about political forces, intelligence and the people involved","description":"Participants speculated about political 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project."}]}],"summary":"讨论围绕郭案中的投资损失、退款去向和证据展开。参与者对GTV、VOG资金、没收金额及投资者是否收到公平基金退款有不同说法，并追问张永兵的代理角色是否与共谋认定冲突。有人解读388号裁定，讨论共谋者陈述的可采性、证人可信度，以及退款委托书和Maywind诉讼材料的意义；也有人指出辩方已提出相关异议，继续争论论证是否充分及无效辩护的证明门槛。其他讨论涉及CVRA、二巡和民事诉讼可能提供的途径，以及韩国借贷项目的责任。参与者还争论自诉人的作用，并对联盟、政治力量和证据来源提出质疑或猜测；有观点强调应逐项核对关联与实际影响。","guide":[{"title":"争论螺丝哥是否主张翻案及自诉人的作用","message_ids":["qde3885b61b82b12057b4","q2c33b45d5597372127b4","q0d24c6be455ad119e27b"]},{"title":"公平基金退款是否经代理人转交，投资者是否收到款项","message_ids":["qb441dbf4ce955a30adb7","qcb7f7ccffdfe4bcfb4f2","qe3611775e6ffd1267eea"]},{"title":"GTV与VOG资金去向、损失计算、没收及投资者身份","message_ids":["q98f0cf7d77fd7252ca42","q961a35de07eb1e540deb","q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784"]},{"title":"张永兵的退款代理角色与共谋认定是否存在冲突","message_ids":["q12a52ddceacda19c8e73","q66e14d551ca4ad454b31","qe38b81c1785223203550"]},{"title":"388号裁定、共谋者陈述的可采性与证词边界","message_ids":["q0bfd3d232b28f7f2a1f6","q2a894da575d7ce8bf707","qb621af1969e03d15594c"]},{"title":"辩方对代理关系的异议是否充分，以及无效辩护的证明门槛","message_ids":["qdbb077aa0c7e2c81ccee","q274b382183f0272a2122","q0defb97d599910c8f65d"]},{"title":"退款委托书、Maywind诉讼和资金控制能否用于挑战共谋理论","message_ids":["qee791a892e78ca31ed42","q668dea3b525ded18f1eb","qeebd6cadfec05cedaad9"]},{"title":"投资者能否通过CVRA、二巡或民事程序追问退款和挑战裁定","message_ids":["q59744f96db7ef0b65f01","qd172ffe3b4f6cc6a5302","q880d61aeeb5824f580b5"]},{"title":"证人可信度、材料来源及联盟是否影响诉讼","message_ids":["q3a708a9db52643bdf3a4","q5cef153a93ae99d85d82","qb21a19a130cadb060f31"]},{"title":"韩国借贷项目、相关民事案及资金责任","message_ids":["q3f7923dde34263872e12","qab30569c53689a3f3f0c","q4b312477753ab17d5635"]},{"title":"关于案件背后政治力量、情报项目及相关人员处境的猜测","message_ids":["qb49ac6c42ecf24c88c8b","q34a53336573f634926ee","q09e128cdb71cc8f1680c"]}],"closed":false,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-11-01T17:06:18.969Z","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/3","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000166?page=3","page":3,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000166?page=4","prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000166?page=2","messages":[{"id":"q142716e78cf8348be377","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":401,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T23:47:50.134Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  实际上翻案很简单 用这几个民事案子把388order共谋打掉","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q142716e78cf8348be377","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q7d99afb435c4ddfd4424","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":402,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T23:48:10.388Z","text":"［用户 him***］  这就是为什么你昨天这么紧张的原因","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d99afb435c4ddfd4424","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q4cfd783b8a1d8ed55a54","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":403,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T23:49:39.563Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 把这些人拉到刑事案 更严重的是共谋那个order","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cfd783b8a1d8ed55a54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q280b522a28cc51388cd9","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":404,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T23:49:55.843Z","text":"如果张的共谋言行有问题 那么李亚那个就有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q280b522a28cc51388cd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q257bb5fb66f1289f1f4d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":405,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T00:58:32.349Z","text":"对的，案子是关于maywind相关公司的，借贷项目","edited":false,"reply_to":"q880d61aeeb5824f580b5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q257bb5fb66f1289f1f4d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q880d61aeeb5824f580b5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q90d72b07cf6325b7a48c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":406,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T01:16:08.049Z","text":"张这块儿，是GTV公平基金退款","edited":false,"reply_to":"q280b522a28cc51388cd9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90d72b07cf6325b7a48c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q280b522a28cc51388cd9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q74b11328f85fb18ac893","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":407,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:17:08.152Z","text":"夏 魏 张 都有民事案 牵扯刑事案的范围 真正能打掉的是共谋order","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90d72b07cf6325b7a48c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74b11328f85fb18ac893","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90d72b07cf6325b7a48c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qda6eff8b760d894ec649","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":408,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:17:40.786Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 螺丝哥嗅觉很灵 他一开始就认为最有问题的就是388","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda6eff8b760d894ec649","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qe7c3485f3572f579e50d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":409,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:18:14.332Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 你看到现在 没有一个律师愿意提这些民事案","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7c3485f3572f579e50d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q6b58fb9502eacf232bea","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":410,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:39:01.321Z","text":"我认为，如果辩方在Dkt. 383中不仅提出代理关系不足，还把GTV和Farm民事案件中与刑事指控完全重合的资金、投资者追偿和相关诉讼证据摆出来，托雷斯法官要批准检方的共谋者陈述申请，就会面临更实质性的证据问题。\n\n但我不会说她就一定不会批准。关键在于：这套材料究竟能否动摇检方证明共谋关系的基础。\n\n1. Dkt. 383实际上打到了法律标准，但没有充分打资金和民事诉讼的交叉点\n\nDkt. 383的核心是：\n\n* 检方必须证明存在共谋；\n* 必须证明郭文贵和具体陈述人都是共谋成员；\n* 陈述必须在共谋期间作出，并且是为了推进共谋；\n* 不能仅仅因为某人是某个组织的负责人，就把他的所有陈述归属于郭文贵。\n\n这些是正确的法律问题。\n\n但是，假设辩方进一步提出：\n\n检方把这些人描述为帮助实施诈骗、管理资金的共谋者，而同一批资金、同一批投资者已经出现在SEC追偿程序和Farm民事追款诉讼中。\n\n这就会产生新的问题：检方对这些人的身份、职责和资金活动的描述，是否完整？\n\n2. 为什么这会影响托雷斯对共谋者证据的判断？\n\n看夏启东、Sara Wei和张永兵。\n\n托雷斯在Dkt. 388中接受了检方的论证，认为有足够证据认定这些人属于Farm相关共谋。\n\n她列出的依据包括：\n\n* 夏启东负责MOS Farm；\n* Sara Wei负责Phoenix Farm；\n* 张永兵是MOS Farm法律组负责人；\n* 郭文贵选择了这些Farm负责人，他们执行郭的指示；\n* 夏启东参与Farm Loan协议，Sara参与GTV投资，张永兵参与相关法律活动。\n\n据此，法院认为这些人的部分陈述可以按照801(d)(2)(E)作为共谋者陈述使用。\n\n但假如辩方在Dkt. 383中已经提供：\n\n1. MOS Farm与Phoenix Farm之间的民事诉讼材料；\n2. 夏启东、张永兵参与追讨Farm Loan资金的具体文件；\n3. Sara Wei作为民事追款对象或相关资金争议当事人的记录；\n4. 民事诉讼涉及资金与刑事指控资金的逐笔对应；\n5. 实际退款、和解和资金分配记录；\n\n那么托雷斯就不能只看这些人的组织头衔和检方对他们的描述，而需要面对一个更具体的问题：\n\n这些人的相关行为究竟是在执行郭文贵的犯罪计划，还是在另一种独立的法律关系中处理投资者资金争议？或者两种身份同时存在？\n\n这会影响共谋成员身份、代理关系以及具体陈述是否在推进共谋。\n\n3. 但有一个法律障碍必须正视\n\n民事追款并不自动否定共谋。\n\n一个人完全可能既参与共谋，又在民事诉讼中追讨部分资金。\n\n所以，真正有杀伤力的不是证明他们曾经帮助投资者追款，而是证明：\n\n* 他们追讨的资金与检方指控的资金完全重合；\n* 民事诉讼显示他们拥有独立于郭文贵的利益和职责；\n* 检方没有完整呈现他们在相关资金中的实际角色；\n* 某些具体陈述并不是为了推进检方所指控的共谋；\n* 检方用来证明共谋成员身份的证据，可能遗漏了重要的相反证据。\n\n尤其要注意，801(d)(2)(E)的门槛是优势证据（preponderance of the evidence），不是排除合理怀疑。即使民事证据使检方的叙事复杂化，法院仍可能认为检方满足了这个较低的准入门槛。 ［用户 joh***］  [屏蔽词]律师","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b58fb9502eacf232bea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q63521cd5f21152b5f55c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":411,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:39:50.351Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 这个案子 司法冲突是他们第一个避讳的东西 tony主权冲突 luc民事案冲突 包括张 魏 共谋证据和他们民事案角色冲突","edited":true,"reply_to":"q6b58fb9502eacf232bea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63521cd5f21152b5f55c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b58fb9502eacf232bea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qabfde1ccb3b8f92f2231","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":412,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T01:52:06.475Z","text":"这个就是，民事追讨的资金，不仅是重合","edited":false,"reply_to":"q63521cd5f21152b5f55c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabfde1ccb3b8f92f2231","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63521cd5f21152b5f55c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qfa0f6567ce81b464e943","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":413,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T01:52:31.357Z","text":"而应该是说，这部分资金，就是刑事案报案的基础","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa0f6567ce81b464e943","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q819f2bf8a91b84d9d774","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":414,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:54:14.503Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ gtv无罪 我觉得是因为 如果gtv有罪 整个案件都会崩盘","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q819f2bf8a91b84d9d774","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q9fcea187ad36ce3d64a0","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":415,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:54:27.006Z","text":"但具体我还是不知道来龙去脉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fcea187ad36ce3d64a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q52fbf6d1789eaf171106","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":416,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:54:44.393Z","text":"我就只能想到意见虎 gtv报假案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52fbf6d1789eaf171106","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q7ba580c80022b209fa2d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":417,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:54:57.762Z","text":"如果有罪，那么直接在庭上就冲突了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ba580c80022b209fa2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q0c9bb13b8a89b3307eeb","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":418,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:55:18.422Z","text":"而且gtv有罪的话 其他那些东西 全都会出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c9bb13b8a89b3307eeb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qcc783a2161c1a09469b3","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":419,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:55:38.290Z","text":"然后顺着gtv把案件打崩 很容易","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc783a2161c1a09469b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc36a29f8d2e88cf73b5c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":420,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:56:58.146Z","text":"可能这个案子比想象的简单 到时候他们可能想着 郭上诉 打gtv一些法律点 输了也不会太难看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc36a29f8d2e88cf73b5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q9227ccf7698018fffd3a","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":421,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:57:22.965Z","text":"但是第三方把法庭上所有人全都揍了一遍 估计他们也想不到这个结果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9227ccf7698018fffd3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q8a5f08d21cb453558fd3","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":422,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:58:23.716Z","text":"现在是整个司法尊严 司法的专业水平 被我们按在地上摩擦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a5f08d21cb453558fd3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qbc61712f6c3b4dd0908c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":423,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T01:58:42.378Z","text":"为了掩盖gtv和300骨干这么点破事 检方托雷斯 彻底[屏蔽词]了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc61712f6c3b4dd0908c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q7e9c76891e8d1c5f88e4","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":424,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:01:39.098Z","text":"这个借贷的民事诉讼，把他们共谋身份，也要弄没","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e9c76891e8d1c5f88e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc7cadf5d81f0a2b44533","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":425,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T02:02:04.047Z","text":"我唯一搞不懂的就是他们这个局是怎么多方面协调的 尤其是律师那里 这点能做到 也是挺牛逼的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7cadf5d81f0a2b44533","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q981403a1d88d3475cf5c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":426,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:02:20.229Z","text":"［用户 him***］ say sth","edited":true,"reply_to":"qc7cadf5d81f0a2b44533","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q981403a1d88d3475cf5c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7cadf5d81f0a2b44533","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qb1290a3e0cab0956ba27","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":427,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T02:02:47.411Z","text":"但是他们庭审 共谋 律师 检方 托雷斯 这场司法表演配合的天衣无缝","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1290a3e0cab0956ba27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qf5a9c95d332c74d1f8ff","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":428,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T02:04:06.881Z","text":"这点非常奇特","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5a9c95d332c74d1f8ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q67c476ee0cb5629f172e","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":429,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:04:26.337Z","text":"老手，台下十年功，台上十分钟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67c476ee0cb5629f172e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q831790ce3d516a9b1264","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":430,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T02:04:58.832Z","text":"有可能他们这一套运行很久了 没失手过 但是遇到螺丝哥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67c476ee0cb5629f172e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q831790ce3d516a9b1264","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67c476ee0cb5629f172e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qdc9601b10f6b30fd6b63","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":431,"speaker":"bia***","date":"2026-10-31T02:08:13.024Z","text":"还有第三方的不依不饶的精神及Al的出现是他们没想到的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q831790ce3d516a9b1264","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc9601b10f6b30fd6b63","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q831790ce3d516a9b1264","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q46d361461104adfb57bd","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":432,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:08:54.939Z","text":"估计AI预演过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q831790ce3d516a9b1264","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46d361461104adfb57bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q831790ce3d516a9b1264","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qf9a7fa6409eef86c4280","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":433,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T02:10:08.941Z","text":"他们绝对不相信ai可以让第三方打到这个程度","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdc9601b10f6b30fd6b63","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9a7fa6409eef86c4280","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc9601b10f6b30fd6b63","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q98bb167e941311a7c909","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":434,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:11:57.016Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ GTV报案，是魏让问她要钱的投资人，去的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98bb167e941311a7c909","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q2a4a63278915f7e8b0db","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":435,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:12:24.004Z","text":"然后墙内，根据魏的资料，抓，逼他们报案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a4a63278915f7e8b0db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q232906714a2c65f0fe5a","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":436,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:12:34.742Z","text":"这个是一套系统运转","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q232906714a2c65f0fe5a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q36fd6cbe6b5e727db5ad","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":437,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:12:57.488Z","text":"魏必须卖墙内人，而且要美国这边投资人报案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36fd6cbe6b5e727db5ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q1d9683b4c3b7959aa731","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":438,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:15:22.635Z","text":"随后墙内跟着学，把投资者不限于GTv的其他资料，都传上去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d9683b4c3b7959aa731","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qf8fd10500d422b91c409","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":439,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T02:18:48.956Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 老郭估计也服了 自己精心培养的队伍 一个说话都没有","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8fd10500d422b91c409","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q3177b048562a35ee3f68","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":440,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T02:20:42.872Z","text":"［用户 spr***］  再说一遍 青藤如果可以凑齐一亿美金孝敬我 我会在明年一月前收手 过时不候","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3177b048562a35ee3f68","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q9f3e584d75db5cc721b9","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":441,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T02:21:32.302Z","text":"［用户 _ki***］ ［用户 hah***］  ［用户 may***］  ［用户 mon***］  你们不是说我为什么还不开始骗钱？ 我这不开始了吗","edited":true,"reply_to":"q3177b048562a35ee3f68","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f3e584d75db5cc721b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3177b048562a35ee3f68","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q67365fcef7e6652d7dbc","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":442,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T02:22:07.422Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 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很不正常啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53d2c41cf96e3982a6fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q4e500199049f98611cef","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":446,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:32:14.748Z","text":"反正这个群的存在，对他们也是好事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e500199049f98611cef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qf3513a2776f294c59a08","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":447,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:32:25.986Z","text":"不然，主子不会给他们经费","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3513a2776f294c59a08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qca52205a10d27ff672f9","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":448,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T02:45:56.449Z","text":"一开始的拱猪 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［用户 beg***］我不太确定","edited":true,"reply_to":"qdf74e590f82b139252fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7501a388169ab07b92ba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf74e590f82b139252fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qae58325ae125622c0616","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":469,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T03:38:28.693Z","text":"她故意含糊其辞， 互相矛盾。一方面是所有的钱都被冻结她本人没有任何帐号。之后又说钱不能动，要听SEC的。一方面说帮着投资人在SEC要钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7501a388169ab07b92ba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae58325ae125622c0616","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7501a388169ab07b92ba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qff921688139437c2481d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":470,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T03:39:15.356Z","text":"这是虚假，那个VOG 4700w支票，说明这部分没有给sec公平基金","edited":false,"reply_to":"qae58325ae125622c0616","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff921688139437c2481d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae58325ae125622c0616","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q44e1595c0e10ae239b20","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":471,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T03:39:18.629Z","text":"有些投资人给了她money order, PayPal","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44e1595c0e10ae239b20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q213e41f86388c40a1c95","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":472,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T03:40:26.543Z","text":"有没有人通过微信转账？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q213e41f86388c40a1c95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qa0ae3c00acd5024cb86d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":473,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-31T03:42:23.088Z","text":"印象中，saraka等的gtv款给了sec，然后还交了罚款和利息。但魏那边，就是不交，sec也没有去较真，然后就拖到了刑事案。魏一直拖着不退钱，如果郭这边不被刑事起诉，那么魏那边就要被起诉。共产党要赢，就必须把以魏为代表的演员们的截留，侵占，挪用，欺诈转移，用rico变成郭的责任。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7501a388169ab07b92ba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0ae3c00acd5024cb86d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7501a388169ab07b92ba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc6ceb8c298b7466573ca","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":474,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T03:42:49.012Z","text":"有谁知道秘密翻译组的投资啥情况？\n\n雅典娜农场的， 有没有被骗的？ \n\n上面的农场主有没有签不起诉协议？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6ceb8c298b7466573ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qeed3b15bfba89a832647","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":475,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T03:43:14.983Z","text":"魏也没资格，代理别人，去问sec要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeed3b15bfba89a832647","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q68fd5b5a658526ebf4fa","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":476,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T03:44:17.252Z","text":"魏就是这个意思 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案子就扯不到郭身上","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8158dc3d999a3f7573c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q4757c2e91fe045d1eadc","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":495,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T03:55:19.842Z","text":"把388打掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4757c2e91fe045d1eadc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q44cd7216855aded479d7","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":496,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T03:55:37.499Z","text":"那么李亚的庭审就会废","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44cd7216855aded479d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qdb36f15f771953d5c046","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":497,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T03:56:28.653Z","text":"李娅与9指的共谋有什么关系？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44cd7216855aded479d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb36f15f771953d5c046","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44cd7216855aded479d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q187928c77b563329583a","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":498,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T03:56:44.940Z","text":"李娅做假证了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q187928c77b563329583a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q9cbf933c76f7936e298c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":499,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T03:56:45.367Z","text":"李娅采用了张永兵的共谋言行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb36f15f771953d5c046","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cbf933c76f7936e298c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb36f15f771953d5c046","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qa81191d984a12ba8e30f","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":500,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T03:56:54.715Z","text":"问题出在张永兵那句话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa81191d984a12ba8e30f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q73636a46e497ef12c802","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":501,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T03:57:19.932Z","text":"什么签字什么什么的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73636a46e497ef12c802","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qa99a9a874a10580f5231","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":502,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T03:57:49.409Z","text":"我印象中他们所有检方证人都是一句话： 郭让我干的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa99a9a874a10580f5231","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q120a166098375614d7d1","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":503,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T03:58:25.291Z","text":"这尼玛就是8000肉票","edited":false,"reply_to":"q654d27d15671e51072c3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q120a166098375614d7d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q654d27d15671e51072c3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc550e0f693ba8d9e9cf0","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":504,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T03:59:14.576Z","text":"9指让人写遗书的时候是哪个月份？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc550e0f693ba8d9e9cf0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc408da1e0259851fa6c6","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":505,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-31T03:59:24.500Z","text":"如果没有魏闷钱的证据，魏的那些谎言恰好是来证明它们是好人，郭是坏人，luc一造假，美国政府一配合，事情就圆了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc408da1e0259851fa6c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q8e48af68f94cb23b5308","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":506,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T04:00:31.464Z","text":"9指搞小动作应该是从遗书那时候开始的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e48af68f94cb23b5308","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qe2990d7bd9325fd634c3","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":507,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T04:03:17.388Z","text":"所以夏诉魏，魏又和解给了钱\n这没法圆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc408da1e0259851fa6c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2990d7bd9325fd634c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc408da1e0259851fa6c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q8054895b0e131a7e84ae","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":508,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T04:08:33.699Z","text":"闷钱，是魏的痛点\n赢钱，是夏的痛点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8054895b0e131a7e84ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q1643f92d16648e2a7e4c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":509,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T04:09:50.325Z","text":"夏也帮借贷项目的受害者要钱，怎么还共谋呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1643f92d16648e2a7e4c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q0b26f80376ad2ac65276","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":510,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T04:11:55.120Z","text":"当谁把夏在二巡写成了签不起诉协议的共谋，群里的[删节：成员身份] 不是很激动吗 ？ 还不依不饶的 记不记得？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b26f80376ad2ac65276","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q3b308e7be93bb062e5d7","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":511,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T04:13:08.551Z","text":"夏 魏 张 都是有民事案子的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b308e7be93bb062e5d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qcc25b17c64ea1a1fa184","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":512,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T04:15:35.804Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 知道为什么检方不起诉他们了吧？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0b26f80376ad2ac65276","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc25b17c64ea1a1fa184","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b26f80376ad2ac65276","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qf787285b41d4633f6f0d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":513,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T04:15:54.596Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 因为这帮人 根本够不上共谋","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf787285b41d4633f6f0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q76f7f54f21770b354291","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":514,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T04:16:14.832Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 检方一起诉  一cross 完了 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每一封信都仔细看了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2eb082dc941ca2fecb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q53edfc65bec3c12db7da","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":520,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T05:52:09.178Z","text":"跑路","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8daba45e0d840f0b333f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53edfc65bec3c12db7da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qae12fbeeb454dbca69e6","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":521,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T05:53:40.587Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 我真是奇怪了 你不把螺丝哥的二巡翻案文件拿出来发号施令 天天拿社交媒体的干什么？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa81688b2b5fa52b75d3e","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae12fbeeb454dbca69e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q10f3979af784410b051c","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":522,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T05:53:41.376Z","text":"这agent编的就是坨💩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10f3979af784410b051c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q203041cdd12b8af426ad","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":523,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T05:54:21.081Z","text":"爸爸托我转达两件事情：非常感谢世界各地战友们的来信，他都收到并每一封都仔仔细细地看了🙏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53edfc65bec3c12db7da","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q203041cdd12b8af426ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53edfc65bec3c12db7da","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q9e58def9e1a6ba3d6f69","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":524,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T05:55:34.455Z","text":"这是，和联盟，唱双簧呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e58def9e1a6ba3d6f69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qe114d3c54e78aedcfaf4","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":525,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T05:55:48.137Z","text":"qmay负责郭美小作文","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe114d3c54e78aedcfaf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q03b5162d54c34b85ed56","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":526,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T05:55:59.289Z","text":"青藤负责来电","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03b5162d54c34b85ed56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q779c5fc28e1f4fbf293f","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":527,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T05:56:07.245Z","text":"一帮人，对台词","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q779c5fc28e1f4fbf293f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qcabcee6bb8ac56202ed6","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":528,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T05:57:02.875Z","text":"她不出来也就算了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcabcee6bb8ac56202ed6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q15a1ad1b905c879995a9","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":529,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T05:57:22.643Z","text":"不止一次两次，我怀疑她是故意的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15a1ad1b905c879995a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qfa8acb22189cbbdf1207","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":530,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T05:57:29.797Z","text":"我操","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15a1ad1b905c879995a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa8acb22189cbbdf1207","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15a1ad1b905c879995a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q683c5f79a4a415d9cd15","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":531,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T05:57:34.071Z","text":"故意的 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要别人聊","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5e360c8f3ecdf66dbff2","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76322d0c30e1c64bcf3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc6ee1313b243e0307d8a","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":534,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T06:01:35.395Z","text":"瑞恩733说的很清楚 债权人登记是检方横跨三年的司法欺诈  不取消掉干什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6ee1313b243e0307d8a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q86c8df0ee51342bf6ac6","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":535,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T06:02:44.434Z","text":"魏鼓动的GTV报案，原本就是个笑话\n好好的公平基金退款，不让人去申请，反而是她登记了8000人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86c8df0ee51342bf6ac6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q0de3b2a54017e43c83b0","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":536,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T06:03:02.527Z","text":"她又不是律师，又没有委托资格，怎么可能是她帮忙联系sec","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0de3b2a54017e43c83b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q0a5ae3f6f6c8335b4d1d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":537,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T06:03:56.267Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 螺丝哥失踪是被你害的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a5ae3f6f6c8335b4d1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc5674cfe91c8c9f49c48","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":538,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T06:05:09.609Z","text":"魏 张 是一个道理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c77117f2656ea0cec14","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5674cfe91c8c9f49c48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc8658186bb5e33da9dd6","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":539,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T06:05:55.475Z","text":"［用户 him***］  你bao chu 不也没提？ 你为什么不提螺丝哥？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa3628899ad01decd9945","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8658186bb5e33da9dd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q0e9eb44c550a06a5c21b","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":540,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T06:09:51.016Z","text":"2020年那会儿，魏已经登记了8000人，估计涉及多个农场\n还有不少墙内的，转款信息可能都在里面\n然后被魏，卖给国宝\n国宝找人，报案，被告是郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0de3b2a54017e43c83b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e9eb44c550a06a5c21b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0de3b2a54017e43c83b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q9685e0670508e81db660","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":541,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T06:14:25.761Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 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\n确实是，只有上庭证人，比如文乐陈薇的表演\n配上长岛，魏丽红，木兰，张的不起诉协议\n才有rico的网","edited":true,"reply_to":"qdec8cedc1ed706444842","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc35a1fd9ee4b4d77415","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdec8cedc1ed706444842","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qfa30e49fc1868776ee1d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":544,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T06:29:55.915Z","text":"王的认罪，wire fraud/laundering，是trigger\n指不定，当初王的saraca转款，也是故意，留把柄\n她不可能不知道，动GTV的投资款，是什么后果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa30e49fc1868776ee1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q626e1a71af7a7e968f59","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":545,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T06:38:17.136Z","text":"如果这部分证据，关于魏搜集VOG/GTV投资者信息的事，到二巡\n魏已经在帮受害者，要退款\n检方就不能把魏，继续当诈骗共谋了\n魏又有，独立闷借贷投资的证据（长岛和maywind诉讼案）她的共谋身份，垮了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q654d27d15671e51072c3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q626e1a71af7a7e968f59","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q654d27d15671e51072c3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q5393b73ae3b8a7c97947","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":546,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T06:47:48.320Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 这就是为什么检方不起诉他们的根本原因","edited":true,"reply_to":"q626e1a71af7a7e968f59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5393b73ae3b8a7c97947","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q626e1a71af7a7e968f59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qe8bb8bf3885f865f7024","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":547,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T06:48:06.524Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 他们根本不是共谋","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8bb8bf3885f865f7024","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q8d5c4a152c912b8609de","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":548,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T06:49:45.741Z","text":"那就好办了\n闷钱的农场主，都要回来","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe8bb8bf3885f865f7024","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d5c4a152c912b8609de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8bb8bf3885f865f7024","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qa3292cfb48c961a06d57","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":549,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T06:49:54.419Z","text":"目前哈恩，是肯定没得跑\n有合同，银行流水，钱还没到总部账户，不在庭审","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3292cfb48c961a06d57","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qb14583511e9d6c11b714","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":550,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T06:51:30.389Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 这也是联盟存在的意义，卡死证据，不让到庭审\n几个证人，投资估计都走的是电汇，swift\n对敲的，黄牛的，虚拟币的，都不能出现","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb14583511e9d6c11b714","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qca37427cc24918a3db67","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":551,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T07:05:12.826Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb14583511e9d6c11b714","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca37427cc24918a3db67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb14583511e9d6c11b714","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q0b197c95175df4ed12cb","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":552,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T07:05:22.293Z","text":"用豆包模拟的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46d361461104adfb57bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b197c95175df4ed12cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46d361461104adfb57bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q5cbf17eb47552b8be59f","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":553,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T07:05:23.525Z","text":"联盟一荣俱荣 一损俱损","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cbf17eb47552b8be59f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qdb1382ac34e37c2020c6","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":554,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T07:18:30.444Z","text":"9指藏这么深？老郭自己清不清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f97459bd5cca9bcdeb4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb1382ac34e37c2020c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f97459bd5cca9bcdeb4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q3b6c786dad0905bbf5d2","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":555,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T07:21:46.697Z","text":"郭是从写遗书那会跟她翻脸的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8e48af68f94cb23b5308","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b6c786dad0905bbf5d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e48af68f94cb23b5308","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qdd6a52ae6b27de87e51e","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":556,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T07:32:20.287Z","text":"那这sec没退钱到底是魏没给sec钱还是sec给了张而张没退给投资人？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdec8cedc1ed706444842","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd6a52ae6b27de87e51e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdec8cedc1ed706444842","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q21c4330f6b058fb6b471","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":557,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T09:02:14.544Z","text":"这么一看还真是，灭爆在忽悠韭菜们殉教\n\nhttps://x.com/rosesong467794/status/2116305671817683082?a=K37LEeB8yTpV7i7BzIo&s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21c4330f6b058fb6b471","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qb469289879f658d39285","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":558,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T09:02:55.199Z","text":"让人们都去当螺丝？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb469289879f658d39285","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q45cdb67274c058f4ba3b","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":559,"speaker":"chr***","date":"2026-10-31T10:55:26.812Z","text":"https://youtu.be/DtUOsaqo3EQ?si=jbSdT55TOaGkDJ2d","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45cdb67274c058f4ba3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qfb5151410fb38b68e285","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":560,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T11:21:59.382Z","text":"都看了 包括[删节：成员身份]的。现在不便于评价。 😂","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb2eb082dc941ca2fecb4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb5151410fb38b68e285","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2eb082dc941ca2fecb4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":561,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T11:26:10.355Z","text":"VOG/GTV，魏那里，还有5000w，没有给sec\nsec那里，已经有大概4.1亿，正好和王案没收清单，GTV的部分吻合\n起诉书里，GTV涉案 4.87，最后没收只有4.1，这个差额，很可能就是魏手里的VOG部分","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd6a52ae6b27de87e51e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd6a52ae6b27de87e51e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q30869dedc26813f817cb","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":562,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T11:32:32.029Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ ［用户 reb***］ \n魏那里500w，不给sec，就是一直拖到刑事案，然后她去当污点证人，再换不起诉覆盖VOG","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30869dedc26813f817cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc1577fa5296d4aec705d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":563,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-31T11:37:47.478Z","text":"演变路径就是这个样子。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q30869dedc26813f817cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1577fa5296d4aec705d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30869dedc26813f817cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q5d1aa6f3abf79803c475","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":564,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T11:39:25.511Z","text":"所有那些损失了钱，被农场主相关人骗了，在未来两个月（1/17/2027年）， 都可以给南区发动议：\n\n要求相关人回答钱在哪里，附上投资证明/通讯/农场公告等等， 南区不回应，上二巡。怎么写，参考以前的court listener 上的文件。\n\n因为目前我发现，墙内投资人被300骨干骗的太多了。尤其是那些在庭上做了假证的， 比如李娅， 戴剑锋 等等","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d1aa6f3abf79803c475","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q8947b754acec523a7cdf","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":565,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T11:41:31.957Z","text":"李娅与9指并行， 是条大鱼啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8947b754acec523a7cdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q9c07141dd8b75e09405a","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":566,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T11:42:24.997Z","text":"戴好像是也做了受害者陈述， 对不对？ 他也别想逃","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c07141dd8b75e09405a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qc95cf5ae33038b100ccc","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":567,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T11:48:37.080Z","text":"看看给多少时间，从最初的弱智4个到后来的12个 神一般 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc95cf5ae33038b100ccc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qd33a84dd1cb542fbe5fc","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":568,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T11:50:05.184Z","text":"洞察力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd33a84dd1cb542fbe5fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qbacc65550e246dccf0ca","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":569,"speaker":"bla***","date":"2026-10-31T12:22:46.515Z","text":"老郭在这个大局里面，难道就一点责任都没有吗？现在看。他在当时是知情的，也没有阻止这些骗局的发生。对吧？大家怎么看？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbacc65550e246dccf0ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qdaa71d49cffe48486d1d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":570,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-31T12:30:46.119Z","text":"既然接了招就要奉陪到底，如果硬要从投资收益角度来看，这个局是高风险项目，不能说赢了大家有份，输了就怪发起者。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbacc65550e246dccf0ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaa71d49cffe48486d1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbacc65550e246dccf0ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q28b05bdc073e0af6add7","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":571,"speaker":"cin***","date":"2026-10-31T13:07:15.665Z","text":"好久不来问候了小伙伴们！ 万圣节快乐！👻 🎃 😈 \n另外，刚好齐春宏失联70天了，又是七哥喜欢的数字，大概冥冥中也应证齐一生最终站止于此吧....我希望他服刑完的那天能跟他好好聊聊，我相信此时此刻他的三观已经被再次重塑，我预测他出狱时你们很多人应该已经不再了，但就冲这个插曲，我一定在这坚守给他点起码得温暖，前提是他不径直上吊之类的；天知道他这种被判多少年，一到五年间感觉都有可能，顺便问问，你们真就没个再电话问问他父母的？ 现在他爹妈应该能反馈下了吧，哎","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28b05bdc073e0af6add7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q61cdc627932abaeaa20e","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":572,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-31T13:16:41.637Z","text":"你以为检方真不知道？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc408da1e0259851fa6c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61cdc627932abaeaa20e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc408da1e0259851fa6c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q91fe92179b9516691651","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":573,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:40:48.096Z","text":"［用户 cin***］ 每周固定直播前，到这个群来嘲讽一次螺丝哥，对不对\nhttps://gettr.com/post/p459ifm4d78","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91fe92179b9516691651","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qf1a099e5604333db6ef5","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":574,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:46:57.324Z","text":"这里只捋案子，谁有罪，谁进去","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbacc65550e246dccf0ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1a099e5604333db6ef5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbacc65550e246dccf0ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qeba16cc3be590e7b6d32","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":575,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:47:36.708Z","text":"［用户 cin***］ 这位也是农场骨干，没少闷投资款","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeba16cc3be590e7b6d32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qd91b2ef4ea2ac1af3e11","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":576,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:53:01.229Z","text":"这部分，不用管\n只要公平基金，委托过张的，都可以自诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd6a52ae6b27de87e51e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd91b2ef4ea2ac1af3e11","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd6a52ae6b27de87e51e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qbc709737ee8d22f39cd4","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":577,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T13:54:53.098Z","text":"魏那里是截胡根本没给联盟，也就没被冻结，张那里的是被冻结然后又退回来的，是吧。那张手里有多少？2700万？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc709737ee8d22f39cd4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q354478d5b58226ba9157","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":578,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:55:49.051Z","text":"对，魏手里VOG，还有4700w支票，没给sec\n张那里不清楚，不知道有多少委托，覆盖多少金额","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbc709737ee8d22f39cd4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q354478d5b58226ba9157","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc709737ee8d22f39cd4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qbdf4de02a696f946e502","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":579,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:57:20.077Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ \nGTV在公平基金的退款程序，在郭案里陪审团认为GTV无罪，\n而这笔钱，却又在王案的初步没收清单里\n那么作为这笔钱的所有权者，就可以自诉，让张来解释，钱在哪里","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd91b2ef4ea2ac1af3e11","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf4de02a696f946e502","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd91b2ef4ea2ac1af3e11","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q3d17e2a1bdbc9d24113e","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":580,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:58:54.070Z","text":"这里不用理会张的身份，只需要把张，拉回刑事案\n张的身份冲突问题，是辩方应该做的事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d17e2a1bdbc9d24113e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q9e667380fd99ea642a52","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":581,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T14:03:34.412Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 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李娅会塌","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb53b8cd13ba6f6dea6cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qa105c2905f86d5de79e4","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":590,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T18:11:21.878Z","text":"李娅庭审就会出现问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa105c2905f86d5de79e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q75216dcc3e1d27c8e178","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":591,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T18:11:33.563Z","text":"都打掉了，那老郭就出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75216dcc3e1d27c8e178","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qab95401d7de3555fd693","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":592,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T18:11:44.480Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q75216dcc3e1d27c8e178","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab95401d7de3555fd693","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75216dcc3e1d27c8e178","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qedac77d69525439c8fa2","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":593,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T18:11:57.736Z","text":"毒树之国原则","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedac77d69525439c8fa2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q0ea2139c409d9b0ef4f2","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":594,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T18:12:10.600Z","text":"388里除了点名那几个，还提到了所有农场","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ea2139c409d9b0ef4f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"qd3cbf52455b9c24d919f","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":595,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T18:12:16.191Z","text":"农场怎么打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3cbf52455b9c24d919f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166"},{"id":"q31698998263de3e3f613","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":596,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T18:12:17.551Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］  为什么检方不起诉共谋 我现在算知道了 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