{"id":"q0026a5a7dbe853acb407","batch_id":"batch-000137","seq":860,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-21T01:41:21.617Z","text":"这些没用\n王认罪的范围，把几个实体，都包括了","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q44c7623558c2723f6d9d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0026a5a7dbe853acb407","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44c7623558c2723f6d9d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000137/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000137/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0026a5a7dbe853acb407","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0026a5a7dbe853acb407/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q0026a5a7dbe853acb407","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qddde1ab3ce745b54ea4f","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-21T01:36:25.722Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddde1ab3ce745b54ea4f"},{"id":"qdc7c5a2ef0b5dcbc1c70","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-21T01:39:53.268Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc7c5a2ef0b5dcbc1c70"},{"id":"q44c7623558c2723f6d9d","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-21T01:40:46.319Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44c7623558c2723f6d9d"},{"id":"q85689b7e5c91295d07c3","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-21T01:41:39.275Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85689b7e5c91295d07c3"},{"id":"q6cfa6703cd9790e98955","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-21T01:42:23.090Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cfa6703cd9790e98955"},{"id":"q0f6088dbc72ab318d409","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-21T01:43:00.265Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f6088dbc72ab318d409"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q44c7623558c2723f6d9d","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-21T01:40:46.319Z","text":"6. 所谓的“核心圈子”\n最后，政府试图将伊薇特·王（Yvette Wang）、威廉·杰（William Je）、迈尔森·郭（Mileson Guo）和何浩然（Haoran He）的陈述作为共同共谋者的陈述予以采纳（见政府陈述书第 4 页）。鉴于王女士已就涉及海曼资本（Hayman Capital）投资的共谋指控认罪，郭先生将不会对政府关于王女士的立场提出异议。\n然而，对于其他人，政府的证据尚显不足；尽管政府指出了相关行为，却未能提供任何证据来确立——哪怕仅达到“优势证据”标准——这些人之间曾达成协议参与任何形式的刑事共谋。诚然，政府已证实这些人之间存在某些联系——例如，政府已证实杰先生与郭先生之间存在商业和社交关系，郭先生与迈尔森·郭是亲属关系，以及何先生与迈尔森·郭之间存在社交和商业关系。政府还将其中某些人与本案涉及的商业项目联系了起来。但是，政府未提出任何证据证明他们之间存在共同计划或共同事业——例如，未能指出郭先生与其中任何一人之间有任何能证明所谓共谋行为的通讯记录。此外，也没有证人证言将他们联系起来","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44c7623558c2723f6d9d"}}