{"id":"q0289e15e3535c39793b6","batch_id":"batch-000151","seq":15,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:34:29.533Z","text":"然后：\n\n“As a victim, I am asserting my financial loss and requesting consideration for relief.” Forfeiture-Petition-填写教程.pdf\n\n中文意思非常明确：\n\n“根据这些信息，我认为我的资金作为相关基础刑事犯罪的一部分被挪用。”\n\n以及：\n\n“作为一名受害者，我主张自己的经济损失并请求给予救济。”\n\n这已经不是：\n\n“我是政府扣押行为的受害者。”\n\n而是直接把：\n\n我的资金损失\n\n连接到：\n\nunderlying criminal offense\n\n然后明确声明：\n\nAs a victim。\n\n这就是目前最重要的新发现。\n\n⸻\n\n而且模板下面写的是：\n\n“红字部分请根据自身情况进行替换。” Forfeiture-Petition-填写教程.pdf\n\n也就是说，这不是展示一份完全不可复制的某人个人陈述。\n\n它被明确作为：\n\nStatement Template\n\n供成员根据自己的情况替换后使用。\n\n所以现在已经可以相当有把握地说：\n\n联盟相关教程不仅教成员如何打开政府网站、如何上传材料，而且直接指导选择“Victim”身份，并提供一段可修改的标准英文声明，把投资资金描述为“misappropriated as part of the underlying criminal offense”，再以“As a victim”主张financial loss。\n\n这句话完全由原件支持。 Forfeiture-Petition-填写教程.pdf\n\n⸻\n\n最后一页把法律风险进一步放大\n\n第11页不是填完就结束。\n\n教程明确告诉成员：\n\n检查请愿表格 → 勾选声明条款 → 提交请愿。 Forfeiture-Petition-填写教程.pdf\n\n而页面截图里的第三个certification实际上就是：\n\nI declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing information contained in my petition is true and correct.\n\n也就是说，申请人最终不是在Discord里随便转发一句：\n\n“我是victim。”\n\n而是在政府系统里确认：\n\n我在伪证处罚下声明这些内容真实正确。\n\n所以这个教程的法律意义比普通宣传大得多。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0289e15e3535c39793b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0289e15e3535c39793b6","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0289e15e3535c39793b6/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q0289e15e3535c39793b6","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qbe1e40c63622b3e291fb","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:24:27.350Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe1e40c63622b3e291fb"},{"id":"q1001487d30364c50784c","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:33:49.859Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1001487d30364c50784c"},{"id":"qb1461a956cfba3c5b73d","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:34:09.256Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1461a956cfba3c5b73d"},{"id":"q967fc82a9f19b0b23c88","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:34:59.161Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q967fc82a9f19b0b23c88"},{"id":"qd89875e0ef516455eca4","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:35:08.309Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd89875e0ef516455eca4"},{"id":"q3a50ee5326e902801b91","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:40:29.118Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a50ee5326e902801b91"}],"parent_message":null}