{"id":"q02ee04c917e072f1b46e","batch_id":"batch-000145","seq":51,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-12T05:55:45.853Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 到时候 无论是tony 还是瑞恩 螺丝哥 issue presented： whether article iii permits a district judge can race to judgement while cross sovereignty conflict on the record without exercise the discretion on the case","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"q83f2285736e17f56e2b5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02ee04c917e072f1b46e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83f2285736e17f56e2b5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000145","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000145","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02ee04c917e072f1b46e","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02ee04c917e072f1b46e/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q02ee04c917e072f1b46e","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q54f5afc8c222278d065a","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-12T05:53:27.942Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54f5afc8c222278d065a"},{"id":"qabbbd81f8d4db10eebff","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-12T05:53:46.448Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabbbd81f8d4db10eebff"},{"id":"qa13e43d94c415d25691e","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-12T05:55:19.709Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa13e43d94c415d25691e"},{"id":"qc4f79db0fc86aec7acbf","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-12T05:56:35.199Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f79db0fc86aec7acbf"},{"id":"q2cd604205f8a6352ff00","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-12T05:58:13.149Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cd604205f8a6352ff00"},{"id":"q8c6235986de3af3299ee","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-12T05:58:54.154Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c6235986de3af3299ee"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q83f2285736e17f56e2b5","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-12T05:51:56.228Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  我来告诉你 托雷斯没有裁量权 怎么让案件彻底崩溃。 政治问题不裁决 主权冲突问题不裁决 有一系列法案支持 但是如果真的要论证托雷斯因政治问题 主权冲突 没有裁量权，门槛还是非常高。 但她蠢就蠢在，直接冲了量刑。这就违反了article iii最基本的 exercise 裁量权，根据二巡以往判例： 在重大主权问题 外交主权冲突 政治问题上 不exercise 裁量权 就是滥用裁量权，abuse of discretion。 所以我说托雷斯但凡智商为大于等于0的有理数，她都不会想到硬冲量刑。 本来全案推翻的法律论证我是比较虚的，现在她硬冲了 那就彻底被她的愚蠢做实了。 ［用户 cin***］ 你这个[屏蔽词]还在高兴我预测不量刑错了 你他妈真是个[屏蔽词]弱智啊","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83f2285736e17f56e2b5"}}