{"id":"q03aeb6fd95b636a746ff","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":714,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-27T02:31:40.362Z","text":"luc说钱是被告的，检方用这个说辞来证明投资者被诈骗,投资者说不是被告的。陪审团的定罪只对被告是否有罪法律效力，对财产所有权不自动产生法律效力，只要有争议，就得走所有权听证程序。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q0bc4ac1d6790b046dda6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03aeb6fd95b636a746ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bc4ac1d6790b046dda6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03aeb6fd95b636a746ff","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03aeb6fd95b636a746ff/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q03aeb6fd95b636a746ff","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q55ffa6dab769af657620","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:30:34.916Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55ffa6dab769af657620"},{"id":"qf967d441bd15938f716f","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:30:55.112Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf967d441bd15938f716f"},{"id":"qbe241eb93ee8e03af257","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:31:09.265Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe241eb93ee8e03af257"},{"id":"qb63d183f8002d2aa8ada","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:31:56.353Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb63d183f8002d2aa8ada"},{"id":"q61c19e8b5f452d5313c1","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:32:17.898Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61c19e8b5f452d5313c1"},{"id":"q8f43cb22c984d76e4374","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:32:27.751Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f43cb22c984d76e4374"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q0bc4ac1d6790b046dda6","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:00:44.970Z","text":"那些853n和luc没什么关系吧","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bc4ac1d6790b046dda6"}}