{"id":"q042acce479279fca98c3","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":225,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-28T16:20:02.708Z","text":"错了，大多不是什麼信徒，信徒是缺乏理性的狂熱。這裡都在理性分析法庭文件，理性和狂熱本就是邏輯悖論，只有一個能成立，你覺得這裡是理性還是狂熱？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd701fc25bd16ea0b4482","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q042acce479279fca98c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd701fc25bd16ea0b4482","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q042acce479279fca98c3","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q042acce479279fca98c3/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q042acce479279fca98c3","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q22f6f541ee56e5eeb9f1","speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-28T15:59:55.221Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22f6f541ee56e5eeb9f1"},{"id":"q46408e620c0c401d99d6","speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-28T16:02:35.494Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46408e620c0c401d99d6"},{"id":"qeb362c6d757e74dbfb4d","speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T16:17:41.710Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb362c6d757e74dbfb4d"},{"id":"qc659181fc49d3fe4d13b","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T16:32:27.119Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc659181fc49d3fe4d13b"},{"id":"q16f171cfca4ccb54e83e","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T16:47:51.461Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16f171cfca4ccb54e83e"},{"id":"qf3efe4ac80a1b3d69ca0","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T16:49:50.070Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3efe4ac80a1b3d69ca0"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qd701fc25bd16ea0b4482","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-28T15:29:50.284Z","text":"你说话算和气，我权当你真没看懂：郭事件，造就了一批潜在终身信徒，此两者为因果桥接；一个特殊的泛信仰类团体的终身信徒的心路历程的演变，引发了我很大的兴趣，而恰好有这个一个群给我观摩的契机，即我来此原委。至于这个群原本旨在讨论案件、还是纯粹抱团取暖，我不在乎，我只来看这批人的心路，只是恰好你们是讨论案子的（好比公鸡打鸣，太阳出来了，存在一种貌似顺序，但太阳出来本身跟有无公鸡无关）。而郭事件本身，我早已不关注，案件细节也没兴趣，只是因为郭存在、案件存在导致群存在、群里有信徒、我借此来观摩信徒。说到这里，懂了吗。 若实在理解不了，那你说的就是对的，正如你们对郭的一切解读一样，你们恐怕只能得出这种类似的答案。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd701fc25bd16ea0b4482"}}