{"id":"q06f5c5006559383dd66e","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":438,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-31T00:26:04.523Z","text":"对的 所以唯一的问题 就是债权人到底起什么作用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q373822f54026ff350689","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06f5c5006559383dd66e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q373822f54026ff350689","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021","notice":"清洗后的社区讨论原话，按时间分批归档，固定首次采集版本，不随原作者后续编辑或删除更新，不含附件内容。含不同观点、推测与未经核实的主张，不代表本站结论或法院认定。导读仅供定位，请阅读完整发言及回复上下文，并结合一手文书核验。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06f5c5006559383dd66e","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06f5c5006559383dd66e/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q06f5c5006559383dd66e","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q6244c1d889ba18fe65ca","speaker":"jie***","date":"2025-07-31T00:13:43.114Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6244c1d889ba18fe65ca"},{"id":"q2509de264af2a1f27940","speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-31T00:14:48.787Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2509de264af2a1f27940"},{"id":"q373822f54026ff350689","speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-31T00:24:27.235Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q373822f54026ff350689"},{"id":"q58c3a98ff6185be1e4d2","speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-31T01:18:23.847Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58c3a98ff6185be1e4d2"},{"id":"q83d05ef5f0334862cbfd","speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-31T01:18:43.219Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83d05ef5f0334862cbfd"},{"id":"q1dc663ea3af3ad571a39","speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-31T01:19:14.616Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dc663ea3af3ad571a39"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q373822f54026ff350689","speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-31T00:24:27.235Z","text":"现在看来，王即便认罪，只要债权人虚假叙事，就产生毒树之果，符合第四修正案。王认罪也没用","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q373822f54026ff350689"}}