{"id":"q07229304c17c6578a456","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":984,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T19:09:09.793Z","text":"他是想类比人们对他引用cvra的指控吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q212965fe7b25d9f9c7da","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07229304c17c6578a456","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q212965fe7b25d9f9c7da","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07229304c17c6578a456","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07229304c17c6578a456/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q07229304c17c6578a456","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q10c605731fd7c5529e82","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T19:08:01.283Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10c605731fd7c5529e82"},{"id":"q4438e5d6bc48927fe4f8","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T19:08:37.604Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4438e5d6bc48927fe4f8"},{"id":"q8db35551a1deadcc95a3","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T19:09:04.860Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8db35551a1deadcc95a3"},{"id":"qc11a7b5398f6677b126c","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T19:09:12.183Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc11a7b5398f6677b126c"},{"id":"qb800b05efbc19f2e9617","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T19:15:12.252Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb800b05efbc19f2e9617"},{"id":"qf6bb4ad21f8aa7dc7017","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T19:29:06.191Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6bb4ad21f8aa7dc7017"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q212965fe7b25d9f9c7da","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T18:42:29.440Z","text":"在 文件761号（Doc. 761） 中，律师 Bradford Geyer 并没有明确表示“张永兵探视郭文贵的事情是假的”或“没有发生”。\n\n但从他使用的措辞来看，他的意思是更为谨慎和模糊的：\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 他在文件中的说法\n\nGeyer 引用了他人提交的主张（即张永兵在狱中探视郭文贵，并据此认定存在“持续的RICO共谋”），然后回应道：\n\n> “这种说法缺乏连贯性。一次探监行为本身并不能证明任何事情……虽然这种互动可能值得进一步了解，但并不构成犯罪的证据。所引用的陈述可能只是表达错误或措辞不当——这在律师工作中也常见。”\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 这句话的真正含义\n\n他没有否认探视可能真的发生过；\n\n但他强调，即便探视确实发生，也不能证明存在犯罪活动或共谋；\n\n他所说的“可能只是表达错误或措辞不当”，暗示原始文件中提到的事件可能被误解、夸大或记述不准确。\n\n\n\n---\n\n换句话说：\n\n> Geyer 并不是说探视是假的，\n而是认为那段描述不一定准确，也不能作为犯罪证据。\n他只是指出，这种说法可能是误报、误解，或与案件无关的事件，即使属实，也不足以说明有任何不法行为。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q212965fe7b25d9f9c7da"}}