{"id":"q072675b8b43612a4f713","batch_id":"batch-000162","seq":421,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-06T02:23:31.791Z","text":"有投资合同，目前farm loan又被定罪量刑，但初步没收清单，没有这部分钱，检方怎么圆呢，这是影响loss和量刑的\n检方说借贷涉案1.5亿，怎么算的，最后要没收1.1亿，清单在哪\n哈恩给草根的那个收据，那部分钱，检方有没有查","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q9f83944e5f7e0cae1331","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q072675b8b43612a4f713","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f83944e5f7e0cae1331","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q072675b8b43612a4f713","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q072675b8b43612a4f713/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q072675b8b43612a4f713","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qe89e09b5984c21df437b","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-06T02:18:12.642Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe89e09b5984c21df437b"},{"id":"q9f83944e5f7e0cae1331","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-06T02:18:51.272Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f83944e5f7e0cae1331"},{"id":"q3dc12f6237cc4308f48f","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-06T02:20:14.293Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dc12f6237cc4308f48f"},{"id":"q402a478c54a9ed1f8617","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-06T02:25:40.790Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q402a478c54a9ed1f8617"},{"id":"qe70b1c76d630d9501f21","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-06T02:32:33.455Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe70b1c76d630d9501f21"},{"id":"qc58b0dcc20cdb62a749d","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-06T02:36:29.262Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc58b0dcc20cdb62a749d"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q9f83944e5f7e0cae1331","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-06T02:18:51.272Z","text":"二巡有针对哈恩的自诉，主要是借贷farm loan\n又有草根从哈恩那里，拿走款的收据\n重点是，这部分钱，没有swift到联盟，检方没有追，不在14亿内","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f83944e5f7e0cae1331"}}