{"id":"q080183ff8e0e492ccab7","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":203,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T14:56:10.024Z","text":"因为现在郭案已量刑，借贷有罪\n借贷，进了medical supply的，无论用CVRA还是853n，都可以\n可以质疑检方，统计借贷的总涉案金额时候，有没有把medical supply纳入，如果没有，给理由；如果已经纳入，那为什么初步没收清单，没有","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q079576c4f9515cf32f59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q080183ff8e0e492ccab7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q079576c4f9515cf32f59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q080183ff8e0e492ccab7","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q080183ff8e0e492ccab7/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q080183ff8e0e492ccab7","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q0566388a592ae0093f3e","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T14:47:02.478Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0566388a592ae0093f3e"},{"id":"q1f4df7c7092c7d59b97d","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T14:51:12.203Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f4df7c7092c7d59b97d"},{"id":"q6bf7b32a986f52b74379","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T14:51:13.879Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bf7b32a986f52b74379"},{"id":"q9d24c33bfeaa0334dc49","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T15:00:40.801Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d24c33bfeaa0334dc49"},{"id":"q9f4eda11cadfa2ef2662","speaker":"tia***","date":"2026-10-18T15:01:14.829Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f4eda11cadfa2ef2662"},{"id":"q91a4a51b67f17b7adc85","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T15:01:44.738Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91a4a51b67f17b7adc85"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q079576c4f9515cf32f59","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T14:41:46.160Z","text":"给9指那里汇款的/农场借款，有上千人 鸦雀无声， 比如， Arizona 那个Medical Supply /G-Serice中的一个帐号的诉讼（被银行封了/被Arizona法庭冻结/）， 法庭文件里说有千人汇款， 但是只有几十个/可能上百？ 在法庭文件中出现要钱（我的理解，可能不对，因为我了解的太少了）， 所以那个诉讼，第一波分完钱后，还剩了一点， 现在在分第二波，我是第二波才介入的， 即使这样， 还有个莫名其妙的追债公司（我猜是那些烂人做的局）要拿70%， 2百70万/特殊法官还贴心的给了8%的利息共3百多万，剩下的给真正的投资人不到30%！ 狠不狠？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q079576c4f9515cf32f59"}}