{"id":"q095c2d553c3a0354730c","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":815,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-16T01:51:13.807Z","text":"二巡意思是，把第三方的索赔要求，甩给辩方？","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1cf81f33e4aca4def22","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q095c2d553c3a0354730c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1cf81f33e4aca4def22","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q095c2d553c3a0354730c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q095c2d553c3a0354730c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q095c2d553c3a0354730c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q9aba6af8e5c103ec3346","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-16T01:10:30.093Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aba6af8e5c103ec3346"},{"id":"q115235dc0675b37c04f2","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-16T01:10:46.918Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q115235dc0675b37c04f2"},{"id":"qe1cf81f33e4aca4def22","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-16T01:40:52.604Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1cf81f33e4aca4def22"},{"id":"q62079132ec4881b542a4","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-16T01:56:14.150Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62079132ec4881b542a4"},{"id":"qe00b72a18128051be54b","speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-05-16T01:59:46.478Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe00b72a18128051be54b"},{"id":"q1c4f71dc737bd41eb6c8","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-16T02:00:30.327Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c4f71dc737bd41eb6c8"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qe1cf81f33e4aca4def22","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-16T01:40:52.604Z","text":"问题就是，第三方，没法请求打回来重新量刑。量刑后没有办法救济。不能把第三方的救济寄托在被告律师上。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1cf81f33e4aca4def22"}}