{"id":"q095e28452f57959f2fd3","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":631,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:39:08.762Z","text":"853n不上传确实是程序问题","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a82a7b750cdbd7a6ad5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q095e28452f57959f2fd3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a82a7b750cdbd7a6ad5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q095e28452f57959f2fd3","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q095e28452f57959f2fd3/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q095e28452f57959f2fd3","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q8ae1be23174f1dd74ab7","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:38:29.520Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ae1be23174f1dd74ab7"},{"id":"qe9b5531f53cf5c1c29d0","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:38:37.709Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9b5531f53cf5c1c29d0"},{"id":"q9cea9cef79fa6b142244","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:39:08.205Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cea9cef79fa6b142244"},{"id":"q8d7d68b151f1b11cb07f","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:40:02.662Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d7d68b151f1b11cb07f"},{"id":"q69cd3da27034e1c85433","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:41:15.441Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69cd3da27034e1c85433"},{"id":"qeed44e8e51477f22b0dc","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T05:41:30.977Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeed44e8e51477f22b0dc"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q2a82a7b750cdbd7a6ad5","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:36:36.265Z","text":"这是我们争论的核心点。我认为赢不了，是法庭有问题，不是陪审团定罪了不得了得很。就跟你们认为郭美在二巡输了是郭美律师不行，可能也正确，但我认为，就是法庭有问题。因为地区法院用简易程序不走听证就认定郭美的替代自我就是她爹的替代自我，就是可以撤销的程序问题，就像我们这边，如果不经853n听证就最终没收，就是可以撤销的没收。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a82a7b750cdbd7a6ad5"}}