{"id":"q0968429de58aa8bfc7ce","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":405,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T21:04:42.808Z","text":"红线这部分没有直接证据，就不要说了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc7b78ad4d3acfa639210","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0968429de58aa8bfc7ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7b78ad4d3acfa639210","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0968429de58aa8bfc7ce","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0968429de58aa8bfc7ce/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q0968429de58aa8bfc7ce","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q71b5d626ae78a3e2e795","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T20:25:15.445Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71b5d626ae78a3e2e795"},{"id":"q5d923ce05962ef2422f1","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T20:27:12.429Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d923ce05962ef2422f1"},{"id":"qb32bdade6da6f3e5fca2","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T20:32:13.297Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb32bdade6da6f3e5fca2"},{"id":"q5ad889f5715432308770","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T21:05:41.393Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ad889f5715432308770"},{"id":"q9c2f6efa5066229da02f","speaker":"joy***","date":"2025-08-28T21:08:55.742Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c2f6efa5066229da02f"},{"id":"q91ec1dac66c6c9aa7a98","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T21:09:33.562Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91ec1dac66c6c9aa7a98"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qc7b78ad4d3acfa639210","speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T19:29:12.231Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 今天先改到这，明天继续修改。\n我们重新整理一下：\n1 亮明身份：\n告知法庭我有hex投资 提供hid \n2 揭露盖尔：\n盖尔未经本人同意，非法以受害者身份来到郭文贵案件里要钱。顺便要求解除盖尔的代理。\n3 揭露联盟：\n告知法庭本人还有联盟农场投资，目前被联盟搞得资金去向不明。要求深挖调查。\n并且联盟集体在坑害七哥，伙同盖尔，引导和欺骗数千战友，非法变成文贵受害人。不仅频繁更换nfsc联盟管理逃避责任，还在用假见面，假电话，持续侵害战友的投资，tdccp币。\n3.1联盟已经被法庭确定为被告的共谋(388文件)，联盟伙同盖尔组织、引导欺诈战友到文贵案件要钱，大多数投资者不懂英文也不了解法律，其实并不知道自己被欺诈利用，实际上绝大多数投资者是为了去澄清郭文贵并未诈骗投资人才登记的。在我所在数千人的樱花农场，也根本找不到一个投资者认为郭文贵是诈骗。但法庭上却出现了数千他的受害者，这与现实实际情况严重不符。认为郭文贵是诈骗并且去作证的，全是潜伏在nfsc联盟的高层，这是一起集体陷害，法庭除了向我们更多的一般投资者了解情况外，几乎是发现不了端倪的，而这部分人中绝大多数，又是因为怕被迫害，不敢公开自己身份居住在中国境内的投资者，从而造成了法庭只能从潜伏者那里获得全部都是对文贵不利的证据的局面。\n。。。。。。大家继续补充大纲。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7b78ad4d3acfa639210"}}