{"id":"q0a4353026fe5dcbb2478","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":5,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:21:54.092Z","text":"不要管破产案说什么，现在刑事案和破产案是矛盾的。再说破产案，曼宁从来没有认定郭鼓动是禁止令。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d134f72d12e1d5f3867","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a4353026fe5dcbb2478","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d134f72d12e1d5f3867","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a4353026fe5dcbb2478","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a4353026fe5dcbb2478/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q0a4353026fe5dcbb2478","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q6d134f72d12e1d5f3867","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-17T00:20:11.320Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d134f72d12e1d5f3867"},{"id":"q779d0a5aca1d6abce170","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:20:39.590Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q779d0a5aca1d6abce170"},{"id":"qcd8171de7c582186f48f","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-17T00:21:16.821Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd8171de7c582186f48f"},{"id":"q1b4709ec5ce77f6a1bf8","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:22:51.933Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b4709ec5ce77f6a1bf8"},{"id":"qa7a07defeab8d5e0655d","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-17T00:23:40.184Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7a07defeab8d5e0655d"},{"id":"qd9bca7ff8dd5e28addb0","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:24:14.769Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9bca7ff8dd5e28addb0"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q6d134f72d12e1d5f3867","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-17T00:20:11.320Z","text":"破产案附属对抗程序的134应该就是luc引用的那个禁制令。luc就是说拱卒是债权是真的，债务人要去证明那是假的，但破产法庭说债务人没资格证明，只能政府受托人去证明，luc当然不会去证明。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d134f72d12e1d5f3867"}}